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Can Brady Hit 5300/50 This Year? (1 Viewer)

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I know they're supposed to be better defensively and want to be more balanced, but I'm not sure I'm willing to accept either of those as being true.

I know 5300 may seem crazy, but that's just a 331/ypg average. Adding in Lloyd makes this team unstoppable IMO. I feel like they have a bad taste left from last year and know the window is closing as Brady gets a year older.

How crazy is it to think he might actually hit 5500??

I believe lots of championships will be won by selecting the receiver who is the actual lottery ticket. Based on current ADP, Hernandez and Lloyd are representing the most relative value.

Someone talk me off the ledge here as I have the 1.11 in my big money league and am about to go all in. :D

 
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One issue that could derail him is the o-line. At his age I'm aware that things need to gel more. It would be bad to see Brady take thr shots he has taken so far all year long. Is early still but Nate Soldier is not enstilling confidence thus far.

 
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Barring injury, I see those numbers as attainable. Lloyd, and they no longer have the security of BJGE holding tight to the rock on those goal line carries either. Ridley is already slipping up. Brady is set up for a humongous season.

1.11, if he is there, you can't go wrong with Brady. Haven't seen Brady to Lloyd yet, but it has to be a beautiful thing to behold when it starts happening.

 
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Can he, yes. Will he, no. I don't think he even comes close either. More along the line of 4,400 and 35 IMO.

 
Talk of being balanced is great but they won't force it. When you have one of the most potent passing games in history it's hard to ignore it.

 
How will a better defense impact Brady's performance? I've seen this argument made in a couple places and I don't really understand it. Has everyone forgotten 2007 already? Belichick and Brady don't care how much they're up by, they'll just keep scoring.

The offensive line is a legitimate concern. Brian Waters' status is still up in the air, Dan Connolly/Koppen haven't really impressed this preseason, Vollmer was just activated from the PUP. Marcus Cannon, the third tackle on the depth chart, has been a turnstile this preseason. I think Gronkowski will be forced to block more this season, which doesn't exactly bode well for the record breaking projections people have been making.

 
4800 is nobody's floor
I didn't even see that floor in the title until now. Yes, that IS crazy. 4,800 and 42 is nobodies floor.... Nobody.
Crazy is an understatement.To say that things that have only been done 8 and 6 times respectively in the history of the NFL is ANYBODY's floor is ridiculous. We all understand that passing totals are trending upward and 5300/50 is certainly possible but to suggest 4800/42 as a floor is just overboard.
 
I have chimed in on this so many times in so many threads that I simply do not have the energy to start over again here.
I actually find it intellectually intriguing because dealing/projecting these lofty numbers isn't something the hobby has had to account for since its inception. It truly affects the strategy of the game, and for me that's something that keeps me interested in the hobby.Interesting stuff if you ask me, which is why I'm guessing the topic is repeatedly being brought up.
 
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Brady has averaged 4585 yds over the last 4 seasons he's played. And he's surpassed 4200 3/4 of those years.

Brady has averaged 40 TDs over those same 4 years.

With those numbers, where would everyone put his floor?

 
nope. toughest passing schedule in the league. the running game should command more touches this year, better defense and the lockout had a huge impact on passing defenses. it's unreasonable to expect any particular player to throw for over 5k yards this season.

 
I have chimed in on this so many times in so many threads that I simply do not have the energy to start over again here.
David, please share a link or 2. I'm interested in your thoughts. I did a search and there are no Faceoffs or Spotlights on Brady as far as I can tell.TIA
 
I have chimed in on this so many times in so many threads that I simply do not have the energy to start over again here.
I was going to speak for you. By the way, my draft is Saturday - please remain silent until then. I'm taking Brady at #5 unless your pimping gets him taken sooner. ShhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhSigned,Fellow Brady Believer
 
A better D will have no effect on Brady...BB puts the pedal to the medal regardless of the score...if anything a good D means the Pats O will be on the field more, not be on the sideline for long periods of time, possibly have better field position and potentially more possessions...if the O line plays well (and it should if Waters comes back and Vollmer is healthy) Brady has a great shot at having one of his better years...this is the deepest group of weapons he has ever had and with Lloyd fitting in seamlessly they should be good to go from week 1...as for the RBs they could actually help his numbers as the screen appears to be something McDaniel is bringing back (it has been MIA for a few years now) and the Pats now have some RBs who maybe able to make some big plays in the passing game...5,300/50 is a pretty crazy season to project regardless of any QB's situation...I do think 4,800/45 is very realistic if the protection is up to normal Patriot standards...

 
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Brady has averaged 4585 yds over the last 4 seasons he's played. And he's surpassed 4200 3/4 of those years.

Brady has averaged 40 TDs over those same 4 years.

With those numbers, where would everyone put his floor?
He's averaged 38.25 TDs over the last 4 seasons and that includes a NFL record and his personal best by 11. You are putting his floor 3 TDs above the 2nd best TD total of his career.I think Brady is in for another big year and a projection of the greatest NFL season in history is possible and 4800/42 is reasonable. But to say that's his floor is crazy.

I would put his floor at 4200/30. Which speaks volumes about the era of NFL football we're in and how good many of us think he can be this year.

 
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I have chimed in on this so many times in so many threads that I simply do not have the energy to start over again here.
David, please share a link or 2. I'm interested in your thoughts. I did a search and there are no Faceoffs or Spotlights on Brady as far as I can tell.TIA
Read the LHUCKS 5 overrated players thread. That has a lot of it.
So, it appears we agree in many ways. I feel less 'crazy' about my floor for Brady this season.
 
I know they're supposed to be better defensively and want to be more balanced, but I'm not sure I'm willing to accept either of those as being true.I know 5300 may seem crazy, but that's just a 331/ypg average. Adding in Lloyd makes this team unstoppable IMO. I feel like they have a bad taste left from last year and know the window is closing as Brady gets a year older.How crazy is it to think he might actually hit 5500??I believe lots of championships will be won by selecting the receiver who is the actual lottery ticket. Based on current ADP, Hernandez and Lloyd are representing the most relative value.Someone talk me off the ledge here as I have the 1.11 in my big money league and am about to go all in. :D
I doubt he will make it to you at pick 11 but if he does I would take him for sure. Think he will go within the 1st 7 picks in most drafts
 
when did brady become such a hot property -- was it lloyd?

brees hardly gets a mention, and sinks down to the 2nd round, while people add brady to the top half of the first with rodgers.

 
If you could pencil Brady in for 5300/50, where would you draft him in a PPR or FPC format? I'm thinking #4 is a 'safe' spot.

 
when did brady become such a hot property -- was it lloyd?brees hardly gets a mention, and sinks down to the 2nd round, while people add brady to the top half of the first with rodgers.
The Patriots haven't had a deep threat like Lloyd since Moss in 2009. Combine Lloyd with Gronk, Hernandez, and Welker and you have a season of epic potential.
 
when did brady become such a hot property -- was it lloyd?brees hardly gets a mention, and sinks down to the 2nd round, while people add brady to the top half of the first with rodgers.
The Patriots haven't had a deep threat like Lloyd since Moss in 2009. Combine Lloyd with Gronk, Hernandez, and Welker and you have a season of epic potential.
you don't have to sell me on that -- I took brady in the first the last 5 years, and say teh same thing about the offense every one of those years.I'm just surprised so many others would take him so early while brees is relatively ignored.what happened to not taking a qb in the first?
 
I have chimed in on this so many times in so many threads that I simply do not have the energy to start over again here.
David, please share a link or 2. I'm interested in your thoughts. I did a search and there are no Faceoffs or Spotlights on Brady as far as I can tell.TIA
Read the LHUCKS 5 overrated players thread. That has a lot of it.
I''m getting a headache already but I'll go dig thru that cesspool.
 
Here is nice chunk of David's work.

http://forumimages.footballguys.com/forums/public/style_images/master/snapback.pnghttp://forums.footballguys.com/foru...=forums&section=findpost&pid=14661929' alt='a>'>David Yudkin, on 21 August 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

Since LHUCKS had some concerns about Brady, I figured that I would throw some stuff out there.

Pats turnover differential in Games 1-8 last year: Even. Pats turnover differential in Games 9-16: +17. People ask why Brady may have had fewer passing attempts but more fantasy points in the latter half of the season, there's your answer. The Pats got the ball a ton and had better field position. Drives were shorter, so passes were not as big a requirement. And the difference in attempts was marginal. First 8 games: 321, last 8 games: 290. Oh, did I mention the Pats scored 291 points in the second half of the season (36.4 ppg)?

Brady also added 3 rushing TD at the end of the season for a total of 22 TD in the final 8 games.

One reason the Pats passed so much was that for the most part the defense was horrible. Even that might be too kind. Yes, they added some potentially decent rookies, but it's pretty much the same crew that looked lost last year and couldn't get off the field or stop the pass.

The running game this year is pretty much unproven. BJGE is gone and they did not really add anyone noteworthy. While Vereen and Ridley may be quicker, we have no idea how they will do. My initial case is inconsisently . . . and on same games ineffectively.

Instead of adding a real RB threat, the Pats instead added Lloyd, Gaffney, and Stallworth to give Brady even more weapons to throw to. None of this screams to me that the Pats will be run centric or they will rely on the pass less this year.

They also added Josh McDaniels, he of the 2007 season with 50 passes and a lethal air attack before it became common to throw the ball all over the yard. Yes, McDaniels uses running backs . . . to catch screens. And we saw how hard the Pats tried to score and score and score back then.

So heading into 2012, Brady now has elite TEs to throw two, a better WR corps, and guys now coming out of the backfield to catch the football.

Some will point to an (on paper) tough schedule against the pass this year. I agree, if in fact those oppoents really are tougher, Brady will see a drop off in production in those games. Let's also say he faces 8 Top pass defenses (like he did in 2009 or the 9 he faced in 2010). I checked and in the 29 games since 2007 where he faced Top 10 defenses, Brady averaged 253 yards and 2.25 TD per game. For argument's sake, let's say he repeats that perfromance level against those 8 Top 10 defenses. That would mean in 8 games he would total 2024/18.

Last year, against non-Top 10 defenses, Brady averaged 345/2.8 per game. While people may say that's insanely high, I ask why? The Pats have shown that they will commit to the pass and run up the score. Common sense says that the Pats should sit Brady with a 50 point lead . . . but they haven't ever done that. For whatever reason, BB seems inclined to keep the ball in the air and rack up the points. Again, for argument's sake, let's use the same numbers against not Top 10 defenses this year. That would be 2760/23.

Again, humor me by adding those two together. I get 4784/41. Now, mind you, that included factoring in having BJGE, but did not include having McDaniels, Lloyd, Gaffney, or Stallworth. IMO, I would say all of that leads me to think Brady would be north of those numbers . . . and that already accounts for playing 8 Top 10 defenses into the equation (based on how he's done recently against top passing defenses).

The only fly in the ointmenthere is if the Pats have long term OL injuries or issues. I have been following this situation. mankins is back in camp and is said to be a beast. He spent his entire rehab working on his upper body and is now a mountain man and stronger than ever. For now, he has slowed some in his manual dexterity and range, but front to back he is fine and added a ton of muscle. Koppen is back and doing well. Vollmer is coming back this week and shows signs of being able to contribute right away, although back injuries are a bit hard to predict as to when they will flare up and when they won't. From the sound of it, Waters is expected back right before the season starts. He didn't show up uto camp until 9/4 last year, at this stage I would consider it a surprise if he didn't come back. From what I have heard/seen, Solder has been holding his own, and paired with Mankins should be more than adequate and will potentially minimize the loss of Matt Light. The only bad thing I have seen about the OL is that Marcus Cannon has been overmatched trying to play RT and they have been trying to coach him up and work on his technique. It sounds like he is getting overmatched by big D-lineman and pushed around a lot. Dan Connolly has been playing the role of super sub and is not a liability no matter where he lines up. In the main, the Pats are expecting a full OL with some depth to be ready by Opening Day.

All in all, I don't see anything not to like about the Pats passing game this year. Some people have suggested that since Brady hit 35 suddenly he will be frail, lose his mojo, not have as much on the ball, will be more apt to get injured, and the like. I would say if there were signs of that I would agree, but he had a pretty decent year at 34

 
Brady has averaged 4585 yds over the last 4 seasons he's played. And he's surpassed 4200 3/4 of those years.

Brady has averaged 40 TDs over those same 4 years.

With those numbers, where would everyone put his floor?
He's averaged 38.25 TDs over the last 4 seasons and that includes a NFL record and his personal best by 11. You are putting his floor 3 TDs above the 2nd best TD total of his career.I think Brady is in for another big year and a projection of the greatest NFL season in history is possible and 4800/42 is reasonable. But to say that's his floor is crazy.

I would put his floor at 4200/30. Which speaks volumes about the era of NFL football we're in and how good many of us think he can be this year.
Take a look at the receivers Brady had in each of those 4 seasons: 2007: Brady had 4800/50. His WRs/ were Moss (98/1493/23), Welker (112/1175/8), Stallworth (46/697/3), next highest was 449 yards.

2009: Brady had 4398/28. His WRs were Moss (83/1264/13), Welker (123/1348/4 in 14 games), next highest was 404 yards.

2010: Brady had 3900/36. His WRs (and TEs) were Welker (86/848/7 coming off his torn ACL), Branch (48/706/5 in 11 games), Gronkowski (42/546/10 as a rookie), Hernandez (45/563/6 as a rookie), next highest was 432 yards.

2011: Brady had 5235/39. his WRs were Welker (122/1569/9), Branch (52/702/5), Gronkowski (90/1327/17), and Hernandez (79/910/7).

Brady's stats are pretty much related to the quality of his overall group of receivers. Last year's overall group is the best he has ever had including when Moss was at his peak. His numbers go down as the overall quality of his receivers goes down. Now Brady adds Brandon Lloyd to the mix. I'm not saying he will throw for 5000 yards again, but I think his floor is probably very close to 4700-4800 and far higher than 4200. I think he has a better chance of throwing for more than 5000 yards than he does of throwing for less than 4500. I don't see how he can add Lloyd and lose 700-1000 yards from last years numbers.

 
Brady has averaged 4585 yds over the last 4 seasons he's played. And he's surpassed 4200 3/4 of those years.

Brady has averaged 40 TDs over those same 4 years.

With those numbers, where would everyone put his floor?
He's averaged 38.25 TDs over the last 4 seasons and that includes a NFL record and his personal best by 11. You are putting his floor 3 TDs above the 2nd best TD total of his career.I think Brady is in for another big year and a projection of the greatest NFL season in history is possible and 4800/42 is reasonable. But to say that's his floor is crazy.

I would put his floor at 4200/30. Which speaks volumes about the era of NFL football we're in and how good many of us think he can be this year.
Take a look at the receivers Brady had in each of those 4 seasons: 2007: Brady had 4800/50. His WRs/ were Moss (98/1493/23), Welker (112/1175/8), Stallworth (46/697/3), next highest was 449 yards.

2009: Brady had 4398/28. His WRs were Moss (83/1264/13), Welker (123/1348/4 in 14 games), next highest was 404 yards.

2010: Brady had 3900/36. His WRs (and TEs) were Welker (86/848/7 coming off his torn ACL), Branch (48/706/5 in 11 games), Gronkowski (42/546/10 as a rookie), Hernandez (45/563/6 as a rookie), next highest was 432 yards.

2011: Brady had 5235/39. his WRs were Welker (122/1569/9), Branch (52/702/5), Gronkowski (90/1327/17), and Hernandez (79/910/7).

Brady's stats are pretty much related to the quality of his overall group of receivers. Last year's overall group is the best he has ever had including when Moss was at his peak. His numbers go down as the overall quality of his receivers goes down. Now Brady adds Brandon Lloyd to the mix. I'm not saying he will throw for 5000 yards again, but I think his floor is probably very close to 4700-4800 and far higher than 4200. I think he has a better chance of throwing for more than 5000 yards than he does of throwing for less than 4500. I don't see how he can add Lloyd and lose 700-1000 yards from last years numbers.
And the cherry on top is this...Brady is one of the only QBs that will do this, a lot of inflated stats last season, the drop will happen which means that Brady's VBD in relation from QB1 to QB12 to QB24 is going to be a lot greater than last season.
 
Brady has averaged 4585 yds over the last 4 seasons he's played. And he's surpassed 4200 3/4 of those years.

Brady has averaged 40 TDs over those same 4 years.

With those numbers, where would everyone put his floor?
He's averaged 38.25 TDs over the last 4 seasons and that includes a NFL record and his personal best by 11. You are putting his floor 3 TDs above the 2nd best TD total of his career.I think Brady is in for another big year and a projection of the greatest NFL season in history is possible and 4800/42 is reasonable. But to say that's his floor is crazy.

I would put his floor at 4200/30. Which speaks volumes about the era of NFL football we're in and how good many of us think he can be this year.
I don't believe you included his rushing TDs.
 
Brady has averaged 4585 yds over the last 4 seasons he's played. And he's surpassed 4200 3/4 of those years.

Brady has averaged 40 TDs over those same 4 years.

With those numbers, where would everyone put his floor?
He's averaged 38.25 TDs over the last 4 seasons and that includes a NFL record and his personal best by 11. You are putting his floor 3 TDs above the 2nd best TD total of his career.I think Brady is in for another big year and a projection of the greatest NFL season in history is possible and 4800/42 is reasonable. But to say that's his floor is crazy.

I would put his floor at 4200/30. Which speaks volumes about the era of NFL football we're in and how good many of us think he can be this year.
Take a look at the receivers Brady had in each of those 4 seasons: 2007: Brady had 4800/50. His WRs/ were Moss (98/1493/23), Welker (112/1175/8), Stallworth (46/697/3), next highest was 449 yards.

2009: Brady had 4398/28. His WRs were Moss (83/1264/13), Welker (123/1348/4 in 14 games), next highest was 404 yards.

2010: Brady had 3900/36. His WRs (and TEs) were Welker (86/848/7 coming off his torn ACL), Branch (48/706/5 in 11 games), Gronkowski (42/546/10 as a rookie), Hernandez (45/563/6 as a rookie), next highest was 432 yards.

2011: Brady had 5235/39. his WRs were Welker (122/1569/9), Branch (52/702/5), Gronkowski (90/1327/17), and Hernandez (79/910/7).

Brady's stats are pretty much related to the quality of his overall group of receivers. Last year's overall group is the best he has ever had including when Moss was at his peak. His numbers go down as the overall quality of his receivers goes down. Now Brady adds Brandon Lloyd to the mix. I'm not saying he will throw for 5000 yards again, but I think his floor is probably very close to 4700-4800 and far higher than 4200. I think he has a better chance of throwing for more than 5000 yards than he does of throwing for less than 4500. I don't see how he can add Lloyd and lose 700-1000 yards from last years numbers.
You don't have to convince me Brady is in for a huge year. I think he is. And I'd even agree that the likelihood of him throwing for 5000 + is higher than him throwing for 4500. I guess I just have a different concept of the term floor. A lot of things can happen in a football season. Brady could have a great year and still not meet the lofty statistical expectations.

I don't do projections but I would say I expect Brady to come in around 5000/40. But again, a lot of different variables and I think his floor is lower than stated in the OP.

Brady has averaged 4585 yds over the last 4 seasons he's played. And he's surpassed 4200 3/4 of those years.

Brady has averaged 40 TDs over those same 4 years.

With those numbers, where would everyone put his floor?
He's averaged 38.25 TDs over the last 4 seasons and that includes a NFL record and his personal best by 11. You are putting his floor 3 TDs above the 2nd best TD total of his career.I think Brady is in for another big year and a projection of the greatest NFL season in history is possible and 4800/42 is reasonable. But to say that's his floor is crazy.

I would put his floor at 4200/30. Which speaks volumes about the era of NFL football we're in and how good many of us think he can be this year.
I don't believe you included his rushing TDs.
You're right, my fault.I'm not here to argue against Brady having a huge year or being worth taken anywhere in the 1st. I have him neck and neck with Rodgers for #4 overall on my board with Brady taking a slight edge over the last two weeks or so.

But like I said above, maybe I just have a different concept of floor. 4500 yards and 35 TDs would still be a great year and well below the floor you have in mind.

 
A better D will have no effect on Brady...BB puts the pedal to the medal regardless of the score...if anything a good D means the Pats O will be on the field more, not be on the sideline for long periods of time, possibly have better field position and potentially more possessions...if the O line plays well (and it should if Waters comes back and Vollmer is healthy) Brady has a great shot at having one of his better years...this is the deepest group of weapons he has ever had and with Lloyd fitting in seamlessly they should be good to go from week 1...as for the RBs they could actually help his numbers as the screen appears to be something McDaniel is bringing back (it has been MIA for a few years now) and the Pats now have some RBs who maybe able to make some big plays in the passing game...5,300/50 is a pretty crazy season to project regardless of any QB's situation...I do think 4,800/45 is very realistic if the protection is up to normal Patriot standards...
you disagree with everything i said, and then you conclude the same thing i did. yes, i do think 4800/45 is doable here, i do not think 5300,50 is, which was the question i was answering
 
A better D will have no effect on Brady...BB puts the pedal to the medal regardless of the score...if anything a good D means the Pats O will be on the field more, not be on the sideline for long periods of time, possibly have better field position and potentially more possessions...if the O line plays well (and it should if Waters comes back and Vollmer is healthy) Brady has a great shot at having one of his better years...this is the deepest group of weapons he has ever had and with Lloyd fitting in seamlessly they should be good to go from week 1...as for the RBs they could actually help his numbers as the screen appears to be something McDaniel is bringing back (it has been MIA for a few years now) and the Pats now have some RBs who maybe able to make some big plays in the passing game...5,300/50 is a pretty crazy season to project regardless of any QB's situation...I do think 4,800/45 is very realistic if the protection is up to normal Patriot standards...
you disagree with everything i said, and then you conclude the same thing i did. yes, i do think 4800/45 is doable here, i do not think 5300,50 is, which was the question i was answering
Since your post had no projections and appeared to be negative towards Brady and his situation I can't say I really agreed with your original post...my point is under no condition, regardless of the player or situation would I project the best stats ever for a player...that being said the only potential negative as far as Brady having an elite year is the O-line playing subpar which I don't think will happen (especially if Waters comes back)...other than that I think he will have one of the best statistical years ever for a QB and I can't say I would be surprised if he did hit some of the crazy projections I see for him...it's just not wise to actually plan for that...
 
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For the record, I was not projecting 5300/50, I was asking a question about it. I stand by my crazy idea of 4800/42 as a floor. But, I'm :eek: :excited:

 
I gotta tell ya, I don't know if you can chalk it up to being "only preseason"... but his pass-blocking has been awful.

I am officially concerned.

 
I gotta tell ya, I don't know if you can chalk it up to being "only preseason"... but his pass-blocking has been awful.

I am officially concerned.
It is a serious problem. Matt Light isn't walking through that door. Unbelievable that you're only the second poster to even bring up this issue here.
 
I gotta tell ya, I don't know if you can chalk it up to being "only preseason"... but his pass-blocking has been awful.

I am officially concerned.
that has been an ongoing concern since light announced his retirement.we had light anchoring LT for a decade, but the end of the road was coming, so they drafted a couple tackles the last couple years, but there are issues.

solder is a 2nd year guy playing his first at LT, who filled in at RT last year because vollmer, who was a very promising guy they drafted in 2009, has had these back issues, recently.

vollmer has missed the off season because of his back, and just came off camp pup a couple days ago, I think it was.

they drafted this bigass marcus cannon in the late rounds last year and basically redshirted him because he had been undergoing chemo to fight lymphoma in the spring.

he supposedly would have been an early round pick if not for that, and supposedly could play guard or tackle, but hasn't been holding up so great at RT in pre.

starting last year, we had a pro bowl LT, a good looking RT, and a first round rookie to cover swing tackle.

but light's retirement kind of started the dominoes to the point where we have an issue at tackle as everybody gets shuffled around.

bear in mind, our pro bowl LG mankins, just came off camp pup recently, along with fells (TE), as he had a partially torn mcl(?) in the playoffs, and our big pick up of last year, prowl bowl RG brian waters , has so far been a no show, and we don't know if he's coming back, or retiring, or what.

you're basically seeing a mish mash of guys at different positions, like utility back up nick mcdonald, who haven't worked together, and who might be revert to back ups during the season.

I know brady got crushed on one play because he held the ball too long, and mcd will be bringing back the rb screen this year.

last year, we got destroyed in the third preseason game, too, playing detroit.

Posted by Shalise Manza Young, Globe Staff August 25, 2012 12:30 AM

According to the final stat sheet, Tom Brady was sacked twice, the Tampa Bay defense was credited with four quarterback hits, and running back Stevan Ridley had three carries where he was taken down behind the line of scrimmage.

Were all of those on the offensive line? Probably not. But it was another tough night for the line, which saw the return of Logan Mankins (briefly) and also a heavy rotation of players on the interior of the line. Dan Connolly took game snaps at center for the first time in the preseason, and Donald Thomas was the starting right guard, but when Mankins came out of the game, Thomas was flipped to left guard, Connolly slid to right guard, and Ryan Wendell and Dan Koppen took snaps at center.

ps

also, bear in mind we had no welker for brady to lean on with quick hitters.

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IF vollmer can stay healthy at RT, we'll be lookin' pretty good, although we won't have much for a swing tackle to cover injury, and we'll be lookin' even better when waters shows back up.

 
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2007 Preseason Stats:

32/50 (64%) for 346 yds, 3 TDs, 2 INTs, 1 fumble

2012 Preseason Stats:

17/27 (63%) for 157 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 2 fumbles

Useless information I suppose but just felt like looking it up as Brady didn't have any signs going into 2007 that he was about to torch the league.

My concern is the hits he took in the preseason but a respectable running game appears to be coming together to keep the blitz in check.

 
How do we feel about Brady's floor now?

After 5 games Brady is on pace for 4640 passing yards and 32 total TDs. I think it's likely he exceeds both totals but as I was pointing out before there are just so many variables to a football season that 4800 yards and 42 TDs as anybody's FLOOR is ridiculous.

 
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