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Can you explain why you don't have faith? (1 Viewer)
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Pickle Rody
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While you cite Catholicism, which is the religion my parents raised me under, I have found this to be true with other christian religions as well.
The hypocrisy that abounds in Christianity knows no end.
While I have been wronged many, many times in my life, I always find that I am a better person and more comfortable with myself when I forgive those who have wronged me. When I choose not to forgive somebody (for whatever reasons) I find I am not a better person. My choice.
While I have wronged others during the course of my life, my relationships still remain with those who have forgiven me. I do not have a single relationship with anyone who could not, or would not, forgive me. Their choice.
Just like KCitons, I chose to question Catholicism and Christianity while in my teens.....because the actions of the church didn't follow the doctrine it preached. I found too much hypocrisy to continue to try to find faith in it. Thus, I have absolutely no faith in any religion.
I believe in me. I know what is right, and what is wrong, because I feel it in my heart. Not because some (any) religion compartmentalized it for me.
It is entirely possible to live an honest and "good" life without any religion impacting it. So that is what I choose.
Rody
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I don't personally subscribe to the belief that religious people are or even religious institutions are any more hypocritical than anyone else. I've been accused on this board before of thinking that atheists are more moral than theists, and I don't believe that at all.
There are awful atheists just like there are awful theists. And some of those awful atheists behave in deeply immoral manners while denouncing the immorality of theism.
But most atheists, like most theists, just do the best they can. They sometimes fail to live up to the standards they profess to believe in. In truth, I think most theists and most atheists make moral decisions in the exact same way. They consult their moral intuition and the evidence available. And then to the extent that they might need to justify within some philosophical/doctrinal framework, I think they conduct a post hoc rationalization.
There are awful atheists just like there are awful theists. And some of those awful atheists behave in deeply immoral manners while denouncing the immorality of theism.
But most atheists, like most theists, just do the best they can. They sometimes fail to live up to the standards they profess to believe in. In truth, I think most theists and most atheists make moral decisions in the exact same way. They consult their moral intuition and the evidence available. And then to the extent that they might need to justify within some philosophical/doctrinal framework, I think they conduct a post hoc rationalization.
matuski
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Only religion claims to be infallible. For me this double or triple dog dares the hypocrisy bet.
Henry Ford
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
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"Religion" doesn't claim anything. Theists may claim that God is infallible, but they don't claim that they are morally infallible.
Henry Ford
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Oh, sorry, I thought we were throwing out unattributable quotes we can't prove were ever uttered by Leo Tolstoy.
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matuski
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If they didn't try to hide behind their god's infallibility, I'd acknowledge the difference.
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