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Can your all-time team beat my all-time team? (1 Viewer)

chris1969

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Ok homers can you put together a better team than my all-time Browns.

pick 25 total players

Come up with a starting offense, defense, K, P, and return guy.

This is what I came up with.....

LT-Lou Groza

LG-Joe Delamelliure

C-Lecharles Bentley

RG-Gene Hickerson

RT-Mike McCormack

QB-Otto Graham

RB-Jim Brown

FB-Marion Motley

TE-Ozzie Newsome

WR-Paul Warfield

WR-Dante Lavelli

LE-Len Ford

DT-Bill Willis

DT-Jerry Sherk

RE-Michael Dean Perry

SLB-Clay Matthews

MLB-Andre Davis

WLB-Chip Banks

LCB-Frank Minnifield

RCB-Hanford Dixon

FS-Thom Darden

SS-Eric Turner

P-Chris Gardocki

K-Lou Groza

RET-Bobby Mitchell

And since I got Groza playing 2 spots I'll take Leroy Kelly as my 25th guy

 
Steelers

QB: Terry Bradshaw

RB: Franco Harris

FB: John Henry Johnson

WR: Lynn Swann

WR: John Stallworth

TE: Eric Green

LT: Jon Kolb

LG: Alan Faneca

C: Mike Webster

RG: Gary Mullins

RT: Tunch Ilkin

DE: L.C. Greenwood

DT: Joe Greene

DT: Ernie Stautner

DE: Dwight White

OLB: Jack Ham

MLB: Jack Lambert

OLB: Greg Lloyd

SS: Troy Polamalu

FS: Donnie Shell

CB: Rod Woodson

CB: Mel Blount

K: Gary Anderson

P: Craig Colquitt

Returner: Antwaan Randle El

Perfection.

 
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I don't know positions like OL well enough to do one for the Eagles, but I think they could have a nice one with Art Monk, TO, Reggie White, Herschel Walker, Mcnabb/Jurgenson, Dawkins, Brian Mitchell.... and Vince Papale :fishing:

 
Steelers

QB: Terry Bradshaw

RB: Franco Harris

FB: Rocky Bleier

WR: Lynn Swann

WR: John Stallworth

TE: Eric Green

LT: Jon Kolb

LG: Alan Faneca

C: Mike Webster

RG: Gary Mullins

RT: Tunch Ilkin

DE: L.C. Greenwood

DT: Joe Greene

DT: Ernie Stautner

DE: Dwight White

OLB: Jack Ham

MLB: Jack Lambert

OLB: Greg Lloyd

SS: Troy Polamalu

FS: Donnie Shell

CB: Rod Woodson

CB: Mel Blount

K: Gary Anderson

P: Craig Colquitt

Returner: Antwaan Randle El

Perfection.
I don't have time to think about the Raiders right now. I'm too busy picking apart your list at the moment. :fishing: I'd put Hines Ward in over Swann, assuming this team has to play a 16-game season.

At FB, Bleier was all heart, granted, but you HAVE to have had a better option over the years. John Henry Johnson, perhaps? Lastly, besides Webster and Faneca, that O-line looks strangely average.

 
Dallas Cowboys (not a Dallas homer, just a long time fan. Too many great players to pick just 25)

Coach: Tom Landry

QB: Roger Staubach

RB: Emmitt Smith

FB: Herschel Walker

WR: Michael Irvin

WR: Lance Alworth

TE: Mike Ditka

OT: Erik Williams

OG: Larry Allen

OC: Mark Stepnoski

OG: Nate Newton

OT: Rayfield Wright

DE: Ed "Too Tall" Jones

DT: Bob Lilly

DT: Randy White

DE: Harvey Martin

LB: Chuck Howly

LB: Lee Roy Jordan

LB: Bob Breunig

CB: Mel Renfro

CB: Herb Adderly

S : Charlie Waters

S : Cliff Harris

Returner: Deion Sanders

K : Raphael Septien

 
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OAKLAND RAIDERS

Coach - John Madden

QB - Ken Stabler

FB - Mark Van Eaghen

RB - Marcus Allen

WR - Fred Bilitnikoff

WR - Tim Brown

TE - Dave Casper

LT - Art Shell

LG - Gene Upshaw

C - Jim Otto

RG - Steve Wisniewski

RT - Henry Lawrence

DL - Ben Davidson

DL - Tom Keating

DL - Otis Sistrunk

DL - Howie Long

LB - Ted Hendricks

LB - Matt Millin

LB - Rod Martin

CB - Willie Brown

CB - Mike Haynes

SS - George Atkinson

FS - Jack Tatum

PK - George Blanda

P - Ray Guy

Punt returner - Tim Brown

Kick returner - Chris Carr (slightly over Desmond Howard & Rocket Ismail)

*Just missing the cut*

- John Matuszak

- Lester Hayes

- Dave Dalby

- Jim Plunkett

- Todd Christensen

- Cliff Branch

- Pete Banazak

- Phil Villapiano

- Todd Marinovich ;)

I'd like to thank the OP for depressing the HELL out of me. :fishing:

 
Steelers

QB: Terry Bradshaw

RB: Franco Harris

FB: Rocky Bleier

WR: Lynn Swann

WR: John Stallworth

TE: Eric Green

LT: Jon Kolb

LG: Alan Faneca

C: Mike Webster

RG: Gary Mullins

RT: Tunch Ilkin

DE: L.C. Greenwood

DT: Joe Greene

DT: Ernie Stautner

DE: Dwight White

OLB: Jack Ham

MLB: Jack Lambert

OLB: Greg Lloyd

SS: Troy Polamalu

FS: Donnie Shell

CB: Rod Woodson

CB: Mel Blount

K: Gary Anderson

P: Craig Colquitt

Returner: Antwaan Randle El

Perfection.
I don't have time to think about the Raiders right now. I'm too busy picking apart your list at the moment. :fishing: I'd put Hines Ward in over Swann, assuming this team has to play a 16-game season.

At FB, Bleier was all heart, granted, but you HAVE to have had a better option over the years. John Henry Johnson, perhaps? Lastly, besides Webster and Faneca, that O-line looks strangely average.
I actually forgot about John Henry Johnson... good call.Personally, I'd want Hines Ward in there a lot, but it's just so hard to bump the other 2 for him... he'd definetly be the #3 WR if I could choose that. But I'm sure just about every other all-time Steeler team would have Swann+Stallworth, so I figure I should just go with what the vast majority of my fellow Steeler fans say.

Agree about the Steeler o-line though... The other 3 were all pretty good players, but not really elite. But I couldn't really find any standout o-linemen other than Webster, faneca, and Dawson (who was a Center, the spot Webster already has) so I went with 70's linemen in 2 out of the other 3 spots just because they were on the dynasty Steelers, so hell they had to be at least pretty good, haha.

 
Team only been around for 12 years, so I guess its still in the "expansion" category. I pulled out a couple of straws when it came to the OL and secondary. Not going to beat a lot of all-time teams, except maybe the Texans.

All-Time Carolina Panthers team:

QB - Jake Delhomme

RB - Stephen Davis

FB - Howard Griffith

WR1 - Steve Smith

WR2 - Mushin Muhammad

TE - Wesley Walls

OT - Blake Brockermeyer

OG - Todd Steussie

C - Jeff Mitchell

OG - Kevin Donnalley

OT - Jordan Gross

DE - Julius Peppers

DT - Kris Jenkins

DT - Brentson Buckner

DE - Mike Rucker

OLB - Kevin Greene

MLB - Sam Mills

OLB - Will Witherspoon

CB - Tyrone Poole

CB - Eric Davis

SS - Deon Grant

FS - Mike Minter

K - John Kasay

P - Todd Saurbaun

KR/PR - Steve Smith

 
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I'm sure Ive got some holes, but let's give it a go:

New York Jets

QB: Joe Namath

RB: Curtis Martin

FB: Richie Anderson

WR1: Don Maynard

WR2: Wesley Walker

TE: Mickey Shuler

LT: Jumbo Elliot

LG: Pete Kendall

C: Kevin Mawae

RG: ?

RT: Karim McKenzie

DE: John Abraham

DT: Marty Lyons

DT: Abdul Salaam (Jason Ferguson?)

DE: Mark Gastineu

LB: Jonathan Vilma

LB: Mo Lewis

LB: Kyle Clifton

CB: Aaron Glenn

CB: James Hasty

FS: Kerry Rhodes (Erik McMillan?)

SS: Victor Green

K: Pat Leahy

P: Tom Tupa

 
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I'm sure Ive got some holes, but let's give it a go:New York JetsQB: Joe NamathRB: Curtis MartinFB: Richie AndersonWR1: Don MaynardWR2: Wesley WalkerTE: Mickey ShulerLT: Jumbo ElliotLG: Pete KendallC: Kevin MawaeRG: ?RT: Karim McKenzieDE: John AbrahamDT: Marty LyonsDT: Abdul Salaam (Jason Ferguson?)DE: Mark GastineuLB: Jonathan VilmaLB: Mo LewisLB: Kyle CliftonCB: Aaron GlennCB: James HastyFS: Kerry Rhodes (Erik McMillan?)SS: Victor GreenK: Pat LeahyP: Tom Tupa
What about Al Toon?
 
All time Chicago Bears team (you really cannot beat this HOF team....you just cannot):

QB: Sid Luckman (HOF'er)

RB: Walter Payton (HOF'er)

FB: Bronko Nagurski (HOF'er).....Bronko could play all 11 positions

WR: Willie Gault

WR: Keenan McCardell (he did play for this team once :goodposting: )

TE: Mike Ditka (HOF'er)

OT: Ed Healey (HOF'er)

OT: Joe Sydhar (HOF'er)

OG: Danny Fortman (HOF'er)

OG: Stan Jones (HOF'er)

C: Olin Kreutz (>5 time probowler)

DE: Richard Dent (Potential HOF'er)

DT: Richard Perry (Fridge)

DT: George Musso (HOF'er)

DE: Dan Hampton (HOF'er)

MLB: **** Butkus (HOF'er)

OLB: Mike Singletary (HOF'er)

OLB: Brian Urlacher (Potential HOF'er)

SS: Gary Fencik

FS: Mark Carrier

CB: Jim Finks (HOF'er)

CB: ? (Looking for input from other Bear fans)

PK: George Blanda (HOF'er)

P: Brad Maynard (why not :goodposting: )

And I could not even put in Gale Sayers, Otis Wilson, Wilbur Marshall, Red Grange, George Halas, Bill George, George Connor etc etc

You can find bios on the Bears HOF'ers here:

http://www.chicagobears.com/tradition/hof-atkins.html

 
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All time Chicago Bears team (you really cannot beat this HOF team....you just cannot):

QB: Sid Luckman (HOF'er)

RB: Walter Payton (HOF'er)

FB: Bronko Nagurski (HOF'er).....Bronko could play all 11 positions

WR: Willie Gault

WR: Keenan McCardell (he did play for this team once :goodposting: )

TE: Mike Ditka (HOF'er)

OT: Ed Healey (HOF'er)

OT: Joe Sydhar (HOF'er)

OG: Danny Fortman (HOF'er)

OG: Stan Jones (HOF'er)

C: Olin Kreutz (>5 time probowler)

DE: Richard Dent (Potential HOF'er)

DT: Richard Perry (Fridge)

DT: George Musso (HOF'er)

DE: Dan Hampton (HOF'er)

MLB: **** Butkus (HOF'er)

OLB: Mike Singletary (HOF'er)

OLB: Brian Urlacher (Potential HOF'er)

SS: Gary Fencik

FS: Mark Carrier

CB: Jim Finks (HOF'er)

CB: ? (Looking for input from other Bear fans)

PK: George Blanda (HOF'er)

P: Brad Maynard (why not :goodposting: )

And I could not even put in Gale Sayers, Otis Wilson, Wilbur Marshall, Red Grange, George Halas, Bill George, George Connor etc etc

You can find bios on the Bears HOF'ers here:

http://www.chicagobears.com/tradition/hof-atkins.html
where's rex?
 
How about the 06 Bengals?

Groza and McCormick weighed about 240 on a 6'3/6'4 frame.. good luck stoping an average end that plays now.

 
OAKLAND RAIDERS

Coach - John Madden

QB - Ken Stabler

FB - Mark Van Eaghen

RB - Marcus Allen

WR - Fred Bilitnikoff

WR - Tim Brown

TE - Dave Casper

LT - Art Shell

LG - Gene Upshaw

C - Jim Otto

RG - Steve Wisniewski

RT - Henry Lawrence

DL - Ben Davidson

DL - Tom Keating

DL - Otis Sistrunk

DL - Howie Long

LB - Ted Hendricks

LB - Matt Millin

LB - Rod Martin

CB - Willie Brown

CB - Mike Haynes

SS - George Atkinson

FS - Jack Tatum

PK - George Blanda

P - Ray Guy

Punt returner - Tim Brown

Kick returner - Chris Carr (slightly over Desmond Howard & Rocket Ismail)

*Just missing the cut*

- John Matuszak

- Lester Hayes

- Dave Dalby

- Jim Plunkett

- Todd Christensen

- Cliff Branch

- Pete Banazak

- Phil Villapiano

- Todd Marinovich :)

I'd like to thank the OP for depressing the HELL out of me. :D
Marcus (or maybe even Bo) would go for about 2,300 behind that line. And I love 2 shutdown corners with 2 headhunting safeties. :(
 
Saints

Coach Jim Mora

QB: Archie Manning but if Brees sticks around for a while he will replace Archie

RB: Duece McAllister - Bush is to new to take Duece's spot

FB: Craig Heyward

WR: Eric Martin

WR: Joe Horn

TE: Hoby Brenner

OT: Willie Roaf

OT: Stan Brock

OG: Jim Dombrowski

OG: Jake Kupp

C: John Hill

DE: Charles Grant

DT: Wayne Martin

DT: La'Roi Glover

DE: Frank Warren

MLB: Sam Mills

OLB: Ricky Jackson

OLB: Pat Swilling

SS: Sammy Knight

FS: Tommy Myers

CB: Dave Waymer

CB: Dave Whitsell

PK: Morten Andersen

P: Tommy Barnhardt

 
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I'm sure Ive got some holes, but let's give it a go:New York JetsQB: Joe NamathRB: Curtis MartinFB: Richie AndersonWR1: Don MaynardWR2: Wesley WalkerTE: Mickey ShulerLT: Jumbo ElliotLG: Pete KendallC: Kevin MawaeRG: ?RT: Karim McKenzieDE: John AbrahamDT: Marty LyonsDT: Abdul Salaam (Jason Ferguson?)DE: Mark GastineuLB: Jonathan VilmaLB: Mo LewisLB: Kyle CliftonCB: Aaron GlennCB: James HastyFS: Kerry Rhodes (Erik McMillan?)SS: Victor GreenK: Pat LeahyP: Tom Tupa
What about Al Toon?
Joe Klecko?
 
I'm sure Ive got some holes, but let's give it a go:New York JetsQB: Joe NamathRB: Curtis MartinFB: Richie AndersonWR1: Don MaynardWR2: Wesley WalkerTE: Mickey ShulerLT: Jumbo ElliotLG: Pete KendallC: Kevin MawaeRG: ?RT: Karim McKenzieDE: John AbrahamDT: Marty LyonsDT: Abdul Salaam (Jason Ferguson?)DE: Mark GastineuLB: Jonathan VilmaLB: Mo LewisLB: Kyle CliftonCB: Aaron GlennCB: James HastyFS: Kerry Rhodes (Erik McMillan?)SS: Victor GreenK: Pat LeahyP: Tom Tupa
What about Al Toon?
Joe Klecko?
That was the first thing I thought of when I saw that list.
 
I'm sure Ive got some holes, but let's give it a go:New York JetsQB: Joe NamathRB: Curtis MartinFB: Richie AndersonWR1: Don MaynardWR2: Wesley WalkerTE: Mickey ShulerLT: Jumbo ElliotLG: Pete KendallC: Kevin MawaeRG: ?RT: Karim McKenzieDE: John AbrahamDT: Marty LyonsDT: Abdul Salaam (Jason Ferguson?)DE: Mark GastineuLB: Jonathan VilmaLB: Mo LewisLB: Kyle CliftonCB: Aaron GlennCB: James HastyFS: Kerry Rhodes (Erik McMillan?)SS: Victor GreenK: Pat LeahyP: Tom Tupa
What about Al Toon?
Joe Klecko?
That was the first thing I thought of when I saw that list.
Most of the picks are what I would pick too...It's hard to take out Maynard or Wesley Walker, but Keyshawn's time with the jets...well he was pretty dominant.Bruce Harper would be my pick as KR/PRI would have marvin Powell as one of my tackles over Jumbo or Kareem.
 
All time Chicago Bears team (you really cannot beat this HOF team....you just cannot):

QB: Sid Luckman (HOF'er)

RB: Walter Payton (HOF'er)

FB: Bronko Nagurski (HOF'er).....Bronko could play all 11 positions

WR: Willie Gault

WR: Keenan McCardell (he did play for this team once :lmao: )

TE: Mike Ditka (HOF'er)

OT: Ed Healey (HOF'er)

OT: Joe Sydhar (HOF'er)

OG: Danny Fortman (HOF'er)

OG: Stan Jones (HOF'er)

C: Olin Kreutz (>5 time probowler)

DE: Richard Dent (Potential HOF'er)

DT: Richard Perry (Fridge)

DT: George Musso (HOF'er)

DE: Dan Hampton (HOF'er)

MLB: **** Butkus (HOF'er)

OLB: Mike Singletary (HOF'er)

OLB: Brian Urlacher (Potential HOF'er)

SS: Gary Fencik

FS: Mark Carrier

CB: Jim Finks (HOF'er)

CB: ? (Looking for input from other Bear fans)

PK: George Blanda (HOF'er)

P: Brad Maynard (why not :) )

And I could not even put in Gale Sayers, Otis Wilson, Wilbur Marshall, Red Grange, George Halas, Bill George, George Connor etc etc

You can find bios on the Bears HOF'ers here:

http://www.chicagobears.com/tradition/hof-atkins.html
Others are using a "returner" spot...Sayers would fit perfectly there. Returner and change of pace back.
 
All time Chicago Bears team (you really cannot beat this HOF team....you just cannot):

QB: Sid Luckman (HOF'er)

RB: Walter Payton (HOF'er)

FB: Bronko Nagurski (HOF'er).....Bronko could play all 11 positions

WR: Willie Gault

WR: Keenan McCardell (he did play for this team once :lmao: )
That's kind of dubious. The spirit of the "all-time team" is that the players were great when they played for your team.

 
Steelers

QB: Terry Bradshaw

RB: Franco Harris

FB: Rocky Bleier

WR: Lynn Swann

WR: John Stallworth

TE: Eric Green

LT: Jon Kolb

LG: Alan Faneca

C: Mike Webster

RG: Gary Mullins

RT: Tunch Ilkin

DE: L.C. Greenwood

DT: Joe Greene

DT: Ernie Stautner

DE: Dwight White

OLB: Jack Ham

MLB: Jack Lambert

OLB: Greg Lloyd

SS: Troy Polamalu

FS: Donnie Shell

CB: Rod Woodson

CB: Mel Blount

K: Gary Anderson

P: Craig Colquitt

Returner: Antwaan Randle El

Perfection.
I don't have time to think about the Raiders right now. I'm too busy picking apart your list at the moment. :lmao: I'd put Hines Ward in over Swann, assuming this team has to play a 16-game season.

At FB, Bleier was all heart, granted, but you HAVE to have had a better option over the years. John Henry Johnson, perhaps? Lastly, besides Webster and Faneca, that O-line looks strangely average.
I actually forgot about John Henry Johnson... good call.Personally, I'd want Hines Ward in there a lot, but it's just so hard to bump the other 2 for him... he'd definetly be the #3 WR if I could choose that. But I'm sure just about every other all-time Steeler team would have Swann+Stallworth, so I figure I should just go with what the vast majority of my fellow Steeler fans say.

Agree about the Steeler o-line though... The other 3 were all pretty good players, but not really elite. But I couldn't really find any standout o-linemen other than Webster, faneca, and Dawson (who was a Center, the spot Webster already has) so I went with 70's linemen in 2 out of the other 3 spots just because they were on the dynasty Steelers, so hell they had to be at least pretty good, haha.
About the O Line youre forgetting the Late Great Justin Strylezik (sp). He was the man.
 
RAIDERNATION said:
Sweetness_34 said:
All time Chicago Bears team (you really cannot beat this HOF team....you just cannot):

QB: Sid Luckman (HOF'er)

RB: Walter Payton (HOF'er)

FB: Bronko Nagurski (HOF'er).....Bronko could play all 11 positions

WR: Willie Gault

WR: Keenan McCardell (he did play for this team once :mellow: )
That's kind of dubious. The spirit of the "all-time team" is that the players were great when they played for your team.
The fact that he put Jim Finks in the CB spot pretty much negates the whole list in my opinion.I'm pretty sure he's not winning against these other teams with a middle-aged GM at the corner.

 
Z-Dog said:
I'm sure Ive got some holes, but let's give it a go:

New York Jets

QB: Joe Namath

RB: Curtis Martin

FB: Matt Snell Richie Anderson

WR1: Don Maynard

WR2: Al Toon Wesley Walker Coles, Keyshawn, Toon or Walker are deserving here.

TE: Mickey Shuler

LT: Winston Hill Jumbo Elliot

LG: Pete Kendall

C: Kevin Mawae

RG: Bob Talamini

RT: Karim McKenzie

DE: Gerry Philbin John Abraham Abraham can come in on passing downs.

DT: Marty Lyons

DT: Joe Klecko Abdul Salaam (Jason Ferguson?)

DE: Mark Gastineu

LB: Jonathan Vilma

LB: Mo Lewis

LB: Larry Grantham Kyle Clifton

CB: Aaron Glenn

CB: Erik McMillan James Hasty

FS: Steve Atwater Kerry Rhodes (Erik McMillan?)

SS: Ronnie Lott Victor Green

K: Pat Leahy

P: Tom Tupa
Fixed.
 
cantrell said:
Team only been around for 12 years, so I guess its still in the "expansion" category. I pulled out a couple of straws when it came to the OL and secondary. Not going to beat a lot of all-time teams, except maybe the Texans.All-Time Carolina Panthers team:QB - Jake DelhommeRB - Stephen DavisFB - Howard GriffithWR1 - Steve SmithWR2 - Mushin MuhammadTE - Wesley WallsOT - Blake BrockermeyerOG - Todd SteussieC - Jeff MitchellOG - Kevin DonnalleyOT - Jordan GrossDE - Julius PeppersDT - Kris JenkinsDT - Brentson BucknerDE - Mike RuckerOLB - Kevin GreeneMLB - Sam MillsOLB - Will WitherspoonCB - Tyrone PooleCB - Eric DavisSS - Deon GrantFS - Mike MinterK - John KasayP - Todd SaurbaunKR/PR - Steve Smith
Only a few personal adjustments I would suggest. Wahle instead os Steussie, while he hasn't exactly torn it up since arriving at Carolina, Steussie was prone to stupid penqalties and being beaten by his rusher. Chad Cota instead of Deon Grant, as the man had a knack for making a big play. Just my two cents though...
 
Coach: Jeff Fisher

QB: Warren Moon(HOF)

RB: Earl Campbell(HOF) / Eddie George

WR: Charley Hennigan / Derrick Mason

OT: Brad Hopkins / Bruce Matthews(HOF)

OG: Mike Munchak(HOF) / Bob Talamini

C: Mark Stepnoski

TE: Frank Wycheck

DT: Curley Culp and Ray Childress

DE: Elvin Bethea(HOF) and Jevon Kearse

LB: Robert Brazile, Gregg Bingham and Keith Bulluck

CB: Cris Dishman and Samari Rolle

S: Ken Houston(HOF) and Blaine Bishop

K: Gary Anderson

P: Craig Hentrich

 
Steelers

QB: Terry Bradshaw

RB: Franco Harris

FB: Rocky Bleier

WR: Lynn Swann

WR: John Stallworth

TE: Eric Green

LT: Jon Kolb

LG: Alan Faneca

C: Mike Webster

RG: Gary Mullins

RT: Tunch Ilkin

DE: L.C. Greenwood

DT: Joe Greene

DT: Ernie Stautner

DE: Dwight White

OLB: Jack Ham

MLB: Jack Lambert

OLB: Greg Lloyd

SS: Troy Polamalu

FS: Donnie Shell

CB: Rod Woodson

CB: Mel Blount

K: Gary Anderson

P: Craig Colquitt

Returner: Antwaan Randle El

Perfection.
I don't have time to think about the Raiders right now. I'm too busy picking apart your list at the moment. :X I'd put Hines Ward in over Swann, assuming this team has to play a 16-game season.

At FB, Bleier was all heart, granted, but you HAVE to have had a better option over the years. John Henry Johnson, perhaps? Lastly, besides Webster and Faneca, that O-line looks strangely average.
I actually forgot about John Henry Johnson... good call.Personally, I'd want Hines Ward in there a lot, but it's just so hard to bump the other 2 for him... he'd definetly be the #3 WR if I could choose that. But I'm sure just about every other all-time Steeler team would have Swann+Stallworth, so I figure I should just go with what the vast majority of my fellow Steeler fans say.

Agree about the Steeler o-line though... The other 3 were all pretty good players, but not really elite. But I couldn't really find any standout o-linemen other than Webster, faneca, and Dawson (who was a Center, the spot Webster already has) so I went with 70's linemen in 2 out of the other 3 spots just because they were on the dynasty Steelers, so hell they had to be at least pretty good, haha.
Maybe John Jackson, Wayne Gandy or Leon Searcy at tackle? :yucky:
 
Steelers

QB: Terry Bradshaw

RB: Franco Harris

FB: Rocky Bleier

WR: Lynn Swann

WR: John Stallworth

TE: Eric Green

LT: Jon Kolb

LG: Alan Faneca

C: Mike Webster

RG: Gary Mullins

RT: Tunch Ilkin

DE: L.C. Greenwood

DT: Joe Greene

DT: Ernie Stautner

DE: Dwight White

OLB: Jack Ham

MLB: Jack Lambert

OLB: Greg Lloyd

SS: Troy Polamalu

FS: Donnie Shell

CB: Rod Woodson

CB: Mel Blount

K: Gary Anderson

P: Craig Colquitt

Returner: Antwaan Randle El

Perfection.
I don't have time to think about the Raiders right now. I'm too busy picking apart your list at the moment. :( I'd put Hines Ward in over Swann, assuming this team has to play a 16-game season.

At FB, Bleier was all heart, granted, but you HAVE to have had a better option over the years. John Henry Johnson, perhaps? Lastly, besides Webster and Faneca, that O-line looks strangely average.
I actually forgot about John Henry Johnson... good call.Personally, I'd want Hines Ward in there a lot, but it's just so hard to bump the other 2 for him... he'd definetly be the #3 WR if I could choose that. But I'm sure just about every other all-time Steeler team would have Swann+Stallworth, so I figure I should just go with what the vast majority of my fellow Steeler fans say.

Agree about the Steeler o-line though... The other 3 were all pretty good players, but not really elite. But I couldn't really find any standout o-linemen other than Webster, faneca, and Dawson (who was a Center, the spot Webster already has) so I went with 70's linemen in 2 out of the other 3 spots just because they were on the dynasty Steelers, so hell they had to be at least pretty good, haha.
Maybe John Jackson, Wayne Gandy or Leon Searcy at tackle? :confused:
Carlton Haselrig was the man before he went nuts.
 
Coach: Jeff FisherQB: Warren Moon(HOF)RB: Earl Campbell(HOF) / Eddie George WR: Charley Hennigan / Derrick Mason OT: Brad Hopkins / Bruce Matthews(HOF) OG: Mike Munchak(HOF) / Bob Talamini C: Mark Stepnoski TE: Frank Wycheck DT: Curley Culp and Ray Childress DE: Elvin Bethea(HOF) and Jevon Kearse LB: Robert Brazile, Gregg Bingham and Keith Bulluck CB: Cris Dishman and Samari Rolle S: Ken Houston(HOF) and Blaine Bishop K: Gary AndersonP: Craig Hentrich
KR/PR - Billy "White Shoes" JohnsonWhatabout 00 Kenny Borroughs? - he should get a WR slot
 
Coach: Jeff FisherQB: Warren Moon(HOF)RB: Earl Campbell(HOF) / Eddie George WR: Charley Hennigan / Derrick Mason OT: Brad Hopkins / Bruce Matthews(HOF) OG: Mike Munchak(HOF) / Bob Talamini C: Mark Stepnoski TE: Frank Wycheck DT: Curley Culp and Ray Childress DE: Elvin Bethea(HOF) and Jevon Kearse LB: Robert Brazile, Gregg Bingham and Keith Bulluck CB: Cris Dishman and Samari Rolle S: Ken Houston(HOF) and Blaine Bishop K: Gary AndersonP: Craig Hentrich
KR/PR - Billy "White Shoes" JohnsonWhat about 00 Kenny Borroughs? - he should get a WR slot
And Gary Anderson over Al Del Greco is a joke. Anderson played only 2 years in TENN.
 
Coach: Jeff FisherQB: Warren Moon(HOF)RB: Earl Campbell(HOF) / Eddie George WR: Charley Hennigan / Derrick Mason OT: Brad Hopkins / Bruce Matthews(HOF) OG: Mike Munchak(HOF) / Bob Talamini C: Mark Stepnoski TE: Frank Wycheck DT: Curley Culp and Ray Childress DE: Elvin Bethea(HOF) and Jevon Kearse LB: Robert Brazile, Gregg Bingham and Keith Bulluck CB: Cris Dishman and Samari Rolle S: Ken Houston(HOF) and Blaine Bishop K: Gary AndersonP: Craig Hentrich
KR/PR - Billy "White Shoes" JohnsonWhatabout 00 Kenny Borroughs? - he should get a WR slot
That was my thought as well - he has Burroughs or Givens, and chooses Mason? Please. I'd take Bum as coach, too.
 
Washington Redskins:

Coach: Joe Gibbs (HOF)

QB: Sammy Baugh (HOF) /Sonny Jurgensen (HOF)

RB: Larry Brown/John Riggins (HOF)

OT: Turk Edwards (HOF)/Jim Lachey/Joe Jacoby

G: Russ Grimm, **** Stanfel

C: Jeff Bostic

WR: Bobby Mitchell (HOF) /Charlie Taylor (HOF) /Art Monk

TE: Don Warren

DE: Charles Mann/Dexter Manley

DT: Dave Butz/Diron Talbert

LB: Sam Huff (HOF) /Wilbur Marshall/Chuck Drazenovich

S: Ken Houston (HOF) /Mark Murphy

CB: Darrell Green/Champ Bailey

PR/KR: Brian Mitchell

P: Sammy Baugh (HOF)

K: Mark Moseley

Redman and others - feel free to alter.

 
Can't wait to see the Texans all-time squad:David Carr, Owen Daniels, Kris Brown.... :thumbup:
Don't laugh, the Texans all-time team would probably beat most every other all-time team if they actually played a game.Though that's only because all your all-time teams are starting guys in their 60s and 70s or who are outright dead. Even Chester Pitts can handle a pass rush from a dead guy. He'd probably make it out of the game only allowing 2 sacks.
 
New York Football Giants

Phil Simms

Tiki Barber

Frank Gifford

Mark Bavaro

Homer Jones

Del Shofner

Mel Hein

Rosey Brown

Cal Hubbard

Ray Wietecha

Jack Stroud

Andy Robustelli

Jim Katcavage

Michael Strahan

Lawrence Taylor

Harry Carson

Sam Huff

Jessie Armstead

Emlen Tunnell

Jimmy Patton

Spider Lockhart

Erich Barnes

Sean Landeta

Pete Gogolak

David Meggett

Edit for Coaches: HC - Steve Owen, OC - Vince Lombardi, DC - Tom Landry

Close but no cigar...Conerly, Tarkenton, Tittle, Leemans, Strong, Webster, Morrison, Hampton, Morris, Tucker, Shockey, Toomer, Rote, Oates, Henry, Weinmeister, Grier, Marshall, Martin, Van Pelt, Banks, Lynch, Haynes, Williams, Daluiso, Chandler...

 
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San Diego Chargers

Coach: Sid Gillman

QB - Dan Fouts

RB - LaDainian Tomlinson

FB - Lorenzo Neal

WRs - Lance Alworth, Wes Chandler, Charlie Joiner

TEs - Kellen Winslow, Antonio Gates

Ts - Doug Wilkerson, Ron Mix

Gs - Ed White, Walt Sweeney

C - Nick Hardwick?

DEs - Leslie O'Neal, Gary "Big Hands" Johnson

DTs - Jamal Williams, Louie Kelcher

LBs - Junior Seau, Shawne Merriman, Donnie Edwards

DBs - Gil Byrd, Les "Speedy" Duncan, Rodney Harrison, Stanley Richards

K - Rolf Benirschke

P - Darren Bennet

Returners - Darrien Gordon, Keith Lincoln (and Duncan)

I think that's a pretty dang good team - slight weakness among the linebackers and secondary, when comparing them to other all-time teams, but solid nonetheless for a team without too many winning seasons.

 
San Diego Chargers

Coach: Sid Gillman

QB - Dan Fouts

RB - LaDainian Tomlinson

FB - Lorenzo Neal

WRs - Lance Alworth, Wes Chandler, Charlie Joiner

TEs - Kellen Winslow, Antonio Gates

Ts - Doug Wilkerson, Ron Mix

Gs - Ed White, Walt Sweeney

C - Nick Hardwick?

DEs - Leslie O'Neal, Gary "Big Hands" Johnson

DTs - Jamal Williams, Louie Kelcher

LBs - Junior Seau, Shawne Merriman, Donnie Edwards

DBs - Gil Byrd, Les "Speedy" Duncan, Rodney Harrison, Stanley Richards

K - Rolf Benirschke

P - Darren Bennet

Returners - Darrien Gordon, Keith Lincoln (and Duncan)

I think that's a pretty dang good team - slight weakness among the linebackers and secondary, when comparing them to other all-time teams, but solid nonetheless for a team without too many winning seasons.
Good luck stopping the Chargers 2-TE formation with LT in the backfield.,S

 
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Coach: Jeff FisherQB: Warren Moon(HOF)RB: Earl Campbell(HOF) / Eddie George WR: Charley Hennigan / Derrick Mason OT: Brad Hopkins / Bruce Matthews(HOF) OG: Mike Munchak(HOF) / Bob Talamini C: Mark Stepnoski TE: Frank Wycheck DT: Curley Culp and Ray Childress DE: Elvin Bethea(HOF) and Jevon Kearse LB: Robert Brazile, Gregg Bingham and Keith Bulluck CB: Cris Dishman and Samari Rolle S: Ken Houston(HOF) and Blaine Bishop K: Gary AndersonP: Craig Hentrich
KR/PR - Billy "White Shoes" JohnsonWhat about 00 Kenny Borroughs? - he should get a WR slot
And Gary Anderson over Al Del Greco is a joke. Anderson played only 2 years in TENN.
Gary is still better than Al.I never liked Del Greco.
 
San Diego Chargers

Coach: Sid Gillman

QB - Dan Fouts

RB - LaDainian Tomlinson

FB - Lorenzo Neal

WRs - Lance Alworth, Wes Chandler, Charlie Joiner

TEs - Kellen Winslow, Antonio Gates

Ts - Doug Wilkerson, Ron Mix

Gs - Ed White, Walt Sweeney

C - Nick Hardwick?

DEs - Leslie O'Neal, Gary "Big Hands" Johnson

DTs - Jamal Williams, Louie Kelcher

LBs - Junior Seau, Shawne Merriman, Donnie Edwards

DBs - Gil Byrd, Les "Speedy" Duncan, Rodney Harrison, Stanley Richards

K - Rolf Benirschke

P - Darren Bennet

Returners - Darrien Gordon, Keith Lincoln (and Duncan)

I think that's a pretty dang good team - slight weakness among the linebackers and secondary, when comparing them to other all-time teams, but solid nonetheless for a team without too many winning seasons.
Some others:DE Fred Dean

LB Billy Ray Smith

C Don Macek

QB John Hadl

K John Carney

The DBs are terrible.

 
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Val Rannous said:
Brock Middlebrook said:
Slingblade said:
Coach: Jeff FisherQB: Warren Moon(HOF)RB: Earl Campbell(HOF) / Eddie George WR: Charley Hennigan / Derrick Mason OT: Brad Hopkins / Bruce Matthews(HOF) OG: Mike Munchak(HOF) / Bob Talamini C: Mark Stepnoski TE: Frank Wycheck DT: Curley Culp and Ray Childress DE: Elvin Bethea(HOF) and Jevon Kearse LB: Robert Brazile, Gregg Bingham and Keith Bulluck CB: Cris Dishman and Samari Rolle S: Ken Houston(HOF) and Blaine Bishop K: Gary AndersonP: Craig Hentrich
KR/PR - Billy "White Shoes" JohnsonWhatabout 00 Kenny Borroughs? - he should get a WR slot
That was my thought as well - he has Burroughs or Givens, and chooses Mason? Please. I'd take Bum as coach, too.
Mason was better than both in his prime.
 
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Some others:DE Fred DeanLB Billy Ray SmithC Don MacekQB John HadlK John CarneyThe DBs are terrible.
I considered all of those (except for Macek, who might deserve to make it). Courtney Hall is another option there.I left off Dean and Carney mostly because of their association with other teams (SF and NO).Smith and Edwards was a tough decision. I kinda flipped a coin. We could add a fourth LB though.Fouts over Hadl (and Kemp and Humphries) seemed like an easy choice to me.Chargers have some pretty impressive depth at RB though: Muncie, Butts, Means, Bernstein, Lincoln, Lowe, Harmon as a 3rd down back.Anthony Miller and John Jefferson warrant consideration at WR.Alfred Pupunu would be a worthy 3rd TE.
 
Gr00vus said:
Despyzer said:
San Diego Chargers

Coach: Sid Gillman

QB - Dan Fouts

RB - LaDainian Tomlinson

FB - Lorenzo Neal

WRs - Lance Alworth, Wes Chandler, Charlie Joiner

TEs - Kellen Winslow, Antonio Gates

Ts - Doug Wilkerson, Ron Mix

Gs - Ed White, Walt Sweeney

C - Nick Hardwick?

DEs - Leslie O'Neal, Gary "Big Hands" Johnson

DTs - Jamal Williams, Louie Kelcher

LBs - Junior Seau, Shawne Merriman, Donnie Edwards

DBs - Gil Byrd, Les "Speedy" Duncan, Rodney Harrison, Stanley Richards

K - Rolf Benirschke

P - Darren Bennet

Returners - Darrien Gordon, Keith Lincoln (and Duncan)

I think that's a pretty dang good team - slight weakness among the linebackers and secondary, when comparing them to other all-time teams, but solid nonetheless for a team without too many winning seasons.
Some others:DE Fred Dean

LB Billy Ray Smith

C Don Macek

QB John Hadl

K John Carney

The DBs are terrible.
That's also 29 guys, instead of the 25 that all the others posted.
 

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