Carolina LB'ers (1 Viewer)

[cr8f]

How does everyone see the team this season?

 

[saintfool]

i think they are kind of a mess at LB. i just don't buy that davis can be anything but a shell of his former self after two consecutive injury-marred seasons. i don't see why the new staff would feel any obligation towards him either. connor didn't put up good numbers at MLB and is strictly back-up, i think. anderson and beason are your only viable LBs, i think. i thought norwood would get some reps given the injuries and roster shuffling but he seems to have been mainly S/T. he might be designated pass rush specialist at DE but who knows? jason williams seemed productive - tackles at any rate - in the defense before he fell to injury. i don't know if they will keep him around though.

they've got talent, i think. rivera is a defensive coach but it remains to be seen what kind of imprint he can have on a team that has this many questions.

 

[cr8f]

i think they are kind of a mess at LB. i just don't buy that davis can be anything but a shell of his former self after two consecutive injury-marred seasons. i don't see why the new staff would feel any obligation towards him either. connor didn't put up good numbers at MLB and is strictly back-up, i think. anderson and beason are your only viable LBs, i think. i thought norwood would get some reps given the injuries and roster shuffling but he seems to have been mainly S/T. he might be designated pass rush specialist at DE but who knows? jason williams seemed productive - tackles at any rate - in the defense before he fell to injury. i don't know if they will keep him around though. they've got talent, i think. rivera is a defensive coach but it remains to be seen what kind of imprint he can have on a team that has this many questions.

Thanks the whole team is probably a question mark with the new coaches and the CBA. Perhaps they draft someone to go with Beason. Still not sold on Anderson.Edit from Jene in another thread... Carolina has said that they won't pursue any free agents, including their own, until the CBA situation has been resolved. The hiring of Ron Rivera could mean some change to the Carolina 4-3, but he's had enough background in an aggressive 4-3 with Tampa-2 concepts that the WLB spot may still have value. When we find out who plays where and in the nickel, we'll know more. If both Anderson and Davis are there, I agree that Davis is likely the better target.

 

[saintfool]

i think they are kind of a mess at LB. i just don't buy that davis can be anything but a shell of his former self after two consecutive injury-marred seasons. i don't see why the new staff would feel any obligation towards him either. connor didn't put up good numbers at MLB and is strictly back-up, i think. anderson and beason are your only viable LBs, i think. i thought norwood would get some reps given the injuries and roster shuffling but he seems to have been mainly S/T. he might be designated pass rush specialist at DE but who knows? jason williams seemed productive - tackles at any rate - in the defense before he fell to injury. i don't know if they will keep him around though.

they've got talent, i think. rivera is a defensive coach but it remains to be seen what kind of imprint he can have on a team that has this many questions.

Thanks the whole team is probably a question mark with the new coaches and the CBA. Perhaps they draft someone to go with Beason. Still not sold on Anderson.

Edit from Jene in another thread...

Carolina has said that they won't pursue any free agents, including their own, until the CBA situation has been resolved. The hiring of Ron Rivera could mean some change to the Carolina 4-3, but he's had enough background in an aggressive 4-3 with Tampa-2 concepts that the WLB spot may still have value. When we find out who plays where and in the nickel, we'll know more. If both Anderson and Davis are there, I agree that Davis is likely the better target.

this makes no sense to me, given the injuries.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Bramel: If both Anderson and Davis are there, I agree that Davis is likely the better target.

this makes no sense to me, given the injuries.

If the Panthers start Anderson, Beason and Davis, I think they've decided to pay Davis and trust that his knee is sound. If that's happened, Davis will almost certainly play the WLB and play every down and therefore likely the better target.

 

[saintfool]

Bramel: If both Anderson and Davis are there, I agree that Davis is likely the better target.

this makes no sense to me, given the injuries.

If the Panthers start Anderson, Beason and Davis, I think they've decided to pay Davis and trust that his knee is sound. If that's happened, Davis will almost certainly play the WLB and play every down and therefore likely the better target.

i understand that much, jene. i just don't understand how anyone can believe that davis is capable of playing at the level he was before because of the injuries. two ACL injuries in less than 18 months? if there aren't any better options available to the panthers then i'm sure he'll given the chance to reclaim the starting position. it would be a great story if he could come back like that but one has to think that ACL injuries rob a player of some measure of athleticism. i think a new coach can objectively evaluate his abilities and wouldn't expect him to be a lock to retain the position he last held almost 2 years ago.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Bramel: If both Anderson and Davis are there, I agree that Davis is likely the better target.

this makes no sense to me, given the injuries.

If the Panthers start Anderson, Beason and Davis, I think they've decided to pay Davis and trust that his knee is sound. If that's happened, Davis will almost certainly play the WLB and play every down and therefore likely the better target.

i understand that much, jene. i just don't understand how anyone can believe that davis is capable of playing at the level he was before because of the injuries. two ACL injuries in less than 18 months? if there aren't any better options available to the panthers then i'm sure he'll given the chance to reclaim the starting position. it would be a great story if he could come back like that but one has to think that ACL injuries rob a player of some measure of athleticism. i think a new coach can objectively evaluate his abilities and wouldn't expect him to be a lock to retain the position he last held almost 2 years ago.

That's true. I don't mean to argue that Davis returning to form, starting and resuming his former role is a foregone conclusion. I'm suggesting that if they've decided to re-sign Davis, it's likely that they've decided he has returned to form. I don't think they'll sign him otherwise. I based my placement of Davis in the LB2/LB3 tier this winter on strong beat writer speculation that the Panthers wanted him back. But there's definitely an argument that he's not worth the durability risk at any point this season.It should be very interesting to see how the Panthers approach the draft. It'll be the first real indication of what they might be thinking about Davis, Anderson and the LB depth chart overall.

 

[saintfool]

Bramel: If both Anderson and Davis are there, I agree that Davis is likely the better target.

this makes no sense to me, given the injuries.

If the Panthers start Anderson, Beason and Davis, I think they've decided to pay Davis and trust that his knee is sound. If that's happened, Davis will almost certainly play the WLB and play every down and therefore likely the better target.

i understand that much, jene. i just don't understand how anyone can believe that davis is capable of playing at the level he was before because of the injuries. two ACL injuries in less than 18 months? if there aren't any better options available to the panthers then i'm sure he'll given the chance to reclaim the starting position. it would be a great story if he could come back like that but one has to think that ACL injuries rob a player of some measure of athleticism. i think a new coach can objectively evaluate his abilities and wouldn't expect him to be a lock to retain the position he last held almost 2 years ago.

That's true. I don't mean to argue that Davis returning to form, starting and resuming his former role is a foregone conclusion. I'm suggesting that if they've decided to re-sign Davis, it's likely that they've decided he has returned to form. I don't think they'll sign him otherwise. I based my placement of Davis in the LB2/LB3 tier this winter on strong beat writer speculation that the Panthers wanted him back. But there's definitely an argument that he's not worth the durability risk at any point this season.It should be very interesting to see how the Panthers approach the draft. It'll be the first real indication of what they might be thinking about Davis, Anderson and the LB depth chart overall.

i think the smart play for them would be to offer a cheap contract and minimize the risk. this is a notoriously cheap franchise, after all. they'll low ball him and see if he bites. if he's terrible then they'll cut him. he's said he wants to test the FA market, if and when it opens for him. if he can sign elsewhere for the money he wants then i expect he might. he might also want to sign with a contending team at this point in his career. however, if the market response to him is lukewarm then he'll take the carolina offer and cross his fingers.

 

[Warpig]

Does anyone know for sure the starting LB's in Carolina at this phase? According to Roto it's Connor @ MLB, Anderson @ SLB and Gaither @ WLB.

Senn had 7 tackles last week and I thought he was the starting WLB? What a mess.

I'm leaning on starting Senn in my playoff matchup (MY LB's are horrid), but can I realistically expect about 5 tackles from this guy?

 

[Al Toon's Mole]

Does anyone know for sure the starting LB's in Carolina at this phase? According to Roto it's Connor @ MLB, Anderson @ SLB and Gaither @ WLB. Senn had 7 tackles last week and I thought he was the starting WLB? What a mess.I'm leaning on starting Senn in my playoff matchup (MY LB's are horrid), but can I realistically expect about 5 tackles from this guy?

I'd like to know also if the 'starters' listed are healthy. Senn has looked good in recent weeks, but unsure if he will see enough playing time. Playing against Houston this week, one would think plenty of tackle opportunities for all the LB's. But trying to figure out the actual depth chart/snap counts will be a nightmare.

 

[ap28.allday]

Im starting J.Anderson this week. Not sure how I feel about the rest of their LB core however.