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CBS Sporstline 2010 (1 Viewer)

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Sportsline is up and running for 2010 but as usual, they're charging a lot more than every other site out there. My league is switching back but think the "Early Bird" price of $150 is still too expensive. We tried MFL last year and although we had no problems, many in the league would like to go back to Sportsline.

I've heard that discount codes exist and was wondering if anyone has a code to share.

 
Why anyone would spend 150 for what CBS offers blows my mind. It's over twice the price and has nothing special to offer.

sorry no codes, but some advice. If MFL wasn't user friendly enough try RTsports. Or just go with yahoo/espn free leagues if you are going to be jumping around all the time.

 
My league won't even consider anything else. They are used to CBS, like it, and will not change. I have tried to bring up alternatives but the argument is that the $12.50 per team is worth it.

 
I love MFL.

One of my leagues switched from Sportsline to Yahoo's free site last year. If they both cost the same, I would still go with Yahoo.

 
I have used CBS for close to ten years and we're finally leaving. It has gotten piss poor and we have had more arguments over technical bugs and poor programming that we had to. Using MFL right now (setting it up) and we'll have to wait and see how it works.

If MFL is too complicated go with Yahoo or ESPN. NFL.com uses a CBS engine. Fleaflicker is far more confusing than it needs to be.

 
Is there anyway to transfer the 10+ years of history/records from CBS to the other sites? That's what has always kept our league at CBS.

 
I've been commish of a redraft league that is starting it's 10th season this year, and no other owners want to switch sites. This same group formed a dynasty league last year on MFL, and the owners think it is OK, but would much rather pay the $13ish per team for CBS.

 
I've been commish of a redraft league that is starting it's 10th season this year, and no other owners want to switch sites. This same group formed a dynasty league last year on MFL, and the owners think it is OK, but would much rather pay the $13ish per team for CBS.
What does CBS do that MFL doesn't? I thought MFL did everything.
 
RamsDude said:
I believe rtsports transfers archives and give 50% off if you come from Fanball or CBS.
RTSports gives you twice as much as those guys for half the price as is, but taking another 50% off is even better! :thumbdown: :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
To each their own. Seriously. If you find a site your league likes, more power to you. Enjoy the game the way you want.

But I have to say, I can't imagine the mindset that would choose to pay more for CBS than MFL. If MFL cost what CBS cost and vice-versa, I'd still choose MFL. If CBS was free I'd still choose MFL for the leagues that are most important to me.

I do play in a league where people like CBS. I really don't get it, but it's not a deal-killer for me. CBS isn't terrible and it's simple to use. If it was awful I'd have more of a problem with it. But how they can justify raising their prices when such awesome options are much cheaper is beyond me.

To try and answer the question, I don't know of any codes but I would recommend just asking for a discount. Just say you've been a loyal customer for many years but the cost is making the league consider cheaper options, and ask if they can do anything for you.

It only costs you a couple of minutes and an e-mail. It doesn't hurt to ask. Good luck.

 
To each their own. Seriously. If you find a site your league likes, more power to you. Enjoy the game the way you want.But I have to say, I can't imagine the mindset that would choose to pay more for CBS than MFL. If MFL cost what CBS cost and vice-versa, I'd still choose MFL. If CBS was free I'd still choose MFL for the leagues that are most important to me. I do play in a league where people like CBS. I really don't get it, but it's not a deal-killer for me. CBS isn't terrible and it's simple to use. If it was awful I'd have more of a problem with it. But how they can justify raising their prices when such awesome options are much cheaper is beyond me.
I think they rely on people that don't want to change, period. There's a lot of casual players out there, and a lot of them actually still use sportsline.com as an info site. CBS was there first (seems that way anyway) and people know the interface, etc. Otherwise, I really can't fathom it either. Pay more for an equal (at best) product.
 
RamsDude said:
bigmiiiiike said:
I've been commish of a redraft league that is starting it's 10th season this year, and no other owners want to switch sites. This same group formed a dynasty league last year on MFL, and the owners think it is OK, but would much rather pay the $13ish per team for CBS.
What does CBS do that MFL doesn't? I thought MFL did everything.
My guess (as a 4 year commish at MFL) would be ease of use and a league site that doesn't look like ###. The ugly truth about MFL is that 99.9% of every MFL site looks like crap. Even the paid ones look like someone with ADD put them together, trying to cram every single piece of information onto the front page.
 
I play in 3 CBS leagues and 3 NFL leagues and have used both for several years.

Also play in CBS baseball leagues

I strongly prefer CBS to mfl. A much slicker more intuitive site. All 3 mfl sites are configured differently, the prior year site address becomes obsolete each off season as it switches over. The player profile and news links are more current on CBS and they even have some decent writers once in awhile

I don't really care that much about the cost. I want ease of use and consistency.

 
RamsDude said:
bigmiiiiike said:
I've been commish of a redraft league that is starting it's 10th season this year, and no other owners want to switch sites. This same group formed a dynasty league last year on MFL, and the owners think it is OK, but would much rather pay the $13ish per team for CBS.
What does CBS do that MFL doesn't? I thought MFL did everything.
My guess (as a 4 year commish at MFL) would be ease of use and a league site that doesn't look like ###. The ugly truth about MFL is that 99.9% of every MFL site looks like crap. Even the paid ones look like someone with ADD put them together, trying to cram every single piece of information onto the front page.
you realize you set up your own front page?go to for owners> franchise set up...then click on home page, take out whatever you don't want to see from box on rightI wish I could convince my 2 old school leagues to switch from CBS, but some people don't always understand that change is good. We could get a keg for the draft with the price difference
 
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massraider said:
RamsDude said:
bigmiiiiike said:
I've been commish of a redraft league that is starting it's 10th season this year, and no other owners want to switch sites. This same group formed a dynasty league last year on MFL, and the owners think it is OK, but would much rather pay the $13ish per team for CBS.
What does CBS do that MFL doesn't? I thought MFL did everything.
Nothing, and it does.
Live auction room?
 
you realize you set up your own front page?

go to for owners> franchise set up...then click on home page, take out whatever you don't want to see from box on right

I wish I could convince my 2 old school leagues to switch from CBS, but some people don't always understand that change is good. We could get a keg for the draft with the price difference
Yes, I realize that, I've been a commish with MFL for 4 years. But when the base site looks awful and like a circa mid-1990's website, adding and subtracting elements doesn't mean you will have an attractive site. It takes talent and hard work to make any site look good, just ask the FBG team what it took them to get their new home page up and running. For whatever reason (well, obviously it's a monetary decision) MFL refuses to release a professional looking skin. David Dodds interviewed Mike Hall, the owner of MFL and this (I submitted it) was one of the questions regarding the appearance and usability of MFL sites :
Dodds: As feature laden as MFL is, the single most common criticism heard about the MFL product is how unattractive and poorly laid out the league home pages are. Have you given any thought to hiring a design team to create a more professional and user friendly experience, one that would rival the look and feel of some of your competitors such as Fanball, ESPN and CBS Sportsline?

Hall: First, and most importantly, we agree! Sometimes we go to league home pages, and see the ugliest, most poorly laid out, visually unappealing web pages you could ever imagine! And while that's a bad thing for that league, and the owners in that league (and anyone else who sees that league home page, and incorrectly thinks "man, MyFantasyLeague.com pages are ugly!"), it really emphasizes the flexibility and functionality of our system. Just like we don't dictate what league scoring rules you can or cannot have, or dictate what waiver rules you should have, we don't tell you how it should look. It's your league, so if you choose to have an ugly, poorly laid out league home page, who are we to tell you that you can't? As time goes on, we try to make system changes on this front, making league pages easier to use and making our default page appearance more modern by adding more skins, etc. But overall, the reason that some league pages are ugly is the exact same reason why we think customers love us - because of the flexibility and customization we offer.
Mr. Hall's answer is basically this:1) He agrees there are a lot of very ugly MFL sites

2) He agrees that is not a strong selling point for MFL

3) The ability to make an ugly site just shows you how much flexibility MFL has

4) When they get around to it MFL will occasionally throw a few anti-ugly bones to the users

I just don't get this. If MFL took $15K-$20K this year, paid a design team to come up with skin that actually looked professional and competed with the heavy hitters like ESPN, CBS, etc... and not one that looked like it was put together by a high school student who took a class on CSS, they would start to appeal to a much larger audience and tremendously increase their revenue. I just find it mind boggling that they do not want to expand out of the home-hobbyist niche market they have carved out for themselves.

Mr. Hall, you can give your users a professional looking site and still give them the ability to tweak and customize the appearance. They are not mutually exclusive concepts!

I don't know, maybe they don't have the infrastructure to accommodate a large increase in new leagues and this stance is by design to avoid overselling their server capacity

 
massraider said:
RamsDude said:
bigmiiiiike said:
I've been commish of a redraft league that is starting it's 10th season this year, and no other owners want to switch sites. This same group formed a dynasty league last year on MFL, and the owners think it is OK, but would much rather pay the $13ish per team for CBS.
What does CBS do that MFL doesn't? I thought MFL did everything.
Nothing, and it does.
Live auction room?
Tell me about it but i'll go free with ESPN for that ability.
 
I've got a keeper league on CBS going into it's 9th year. I've used MFL past 5 years or so in other leagues. Took MFL's survey this year and they rewarded me with the option to switch my league over and try MFL for free this year. My league voted this off season to pay for CBS and also give MFL a try in 2010. I'm currently in the process of setting it up and have already copied over 8 years of history. We'll be using both sites this year. 2011 we will decide which to stick with.

 
I personally don't care that much about looks at all with a fantasy hosting site. As long as I can read the text and the colors aren't an eyesore, it doesn't bother me. I'm more concerned with stats, live-scoring, options, features, reliability, and price.

 
To each their own. Seriously. If you find a site your league likes, more power to you. Enjoy the game the way you want.But I have to say, I can't imagine the mindset that would choose to pay more for CBS than MFL. If MFL cost what CBS cost and vice-versa, I'd still choose MFL. If CBS was free I'd still choose MFL for the leagues that are most important to me. I do play in a league where people like CBS. I really don't get it, but it's not a deal-killer for me. CBS isn't terrible and it's simple to use. If it was awful I'd have more of a problem with it. But how they can justify raising their prices when such awesome options are much cheaper is beyond me.
I think they rely on people that don't want to change, period. There's a lot of casual players out there, and a lot of them actually still use sportsline.com as an info site. CBS was there first (seems that way anyway) and people know the interface, etc. Otherwise, I really can't fathom it either. Pay more for an equal (at best) product.
Exactly. For the same cost, with MFL you could afford to pay someone to design your site for you however you wish.But folks use what makes them happy and comfortable and IMO that is perfectly fine....I guess what bothers me (and I do not know why) is that a *!%* like CBS makes money off of all the people AFRAID of change or whatever. The fact they charge that much more than the others despite having no better service is just sad to me.While I love MFL and the ability to make my leagues the way I WANT.....I just wish that those of you who don't like MFL for whatever reason were not bending over for CBS the way you do. If you all left them they would be forced to stop ripping everyone off is all.Anyways, best of luck to all this season.
 
Novice2 said:
massraider said:
RamsDude said:
bigmiiiiike said:
I've been commish of a redraft league that is starting it's 10th season this year, and no other owners want to switch sites. This same group formed a dynasty league last year on MFL, and the owners think it is OK, but would much rather pay the $13ish per team for CBS.
What does CBS do that MFL doesn't? I thought MFL did everything.
Nothing, and it does.
Live auction room?
Tell me about it but i'll go free with ESPN for that ability.
can you change the $$ amount yet in espn?
 
I'm part of 2 ESPN leagues (commish one of them) and I like ESPN quite a bit. I'm also in one MFL league. I get why people love MFL, but I think it only really ends up being better if the designer of your page has talent and desire to make it great. Otherwise, I'd rather have any of the other sites, rather then a crappy MFL page.

I have one CBS league where the commish doesn't want to change. I hate the fact that the CBS league is my most knowledgeable league but it has the lowest pay outs, seems backward.

The commish of the CBS league is against changing because he loves the league history feature (5 years of history) and the league uses the CBS feature of being able to post stories and pictures on the stories. Without those 2 features, there is no way we would change over.

Are there any other sites, besides CBS, that allow for:

1) Transfer of league history and recording of new history

2) Posting of front-page style stories with pictures

 
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I'm part of 2 ESPN leagues (commish one of them) and I like ESPN quite a bit. I'm also in one MFL league. I get why people love MFL, but I think it only really ends up being better if the designer of your page has talent and desire to make it great. Otherwise, I'd rather have any of the other sites, rather then a crappy MFL page.I have one CBS league where the commish doesn't want to change. I hate the fact that the CBS league is my most knowledgeable league but it has the lowest pay outs, seems backward.The commish of the CBS league is against changing because he loves the league history feature (5 years of history) and the league uses the CBS feature of being able to post stories and pictures on the stories. Without those 2 features, there is no way we would change over.Are there any other sites, besides CBS, that allow for:1) Transfer of league history and recording of new history2) Posting of front-page style stories with pictures
MFL does both. Go to any MFL league, and go to the 'help' pulldown, one of the top FAQs is about transferring history, and gives step by step directions. One of the commish options is to have a League Article on the home page, and anyone can post.
 
Godsbrother said:
My league won't even consider anything else. They are used to CBS, like it, and will not change. I have tried to bring up alternatives but the argument is that the $12.50 per team is worth it.
I agree with this. It's $15 for 4 months of enjoyment.
 
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imagroid said:
Why anyone would spend 150 for what CBS offers blows my mind. It's over twice the price and has nothing special to offer. sorry no codes, but some advice. If MFL wasn't user friendly enough try RTsports. Or just go with yahoo/ESPN free leagues if you are going to be jumping around all the time.
I agree, RTSports is a great site and keeps archives along with funds and has a good draft as well. They also give a 20% ($71) discount for repeat customers. I have played and commished on MFL, Sportsline and free sites and like RTSports the best and as a bonus it is one of the lower cost sites.
 
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