Cedric Benson gets 3 game suspension! (1 Viewer)

[Sweet Love]

For what is it worth:

As per Rotoworld:

Cedric Benson says he will play in Sunday's game against the Bills.

Related: Bernard Scott

Source: Bengals on Twitter

 

[QuizGuy66]

Makes sense - until it's all figured out (and he's had his appeal) they can't start the suspension.

And it's still totally possible that no suspension happens at all.

-QG

 

[greggorymac]

I'm cool with postponing it for this week. I don't need Scott until the bye weeks come around

 

[netnalp]

I'm not too worried that Scott didn't get many carries. Could be the team figured why risk getting Benson's suspension fill-in dinged when Benson is still there. If Benson gets hurt he'll have the coming suspension to heal up, if Scott gets hurt before the team needs to lean on him, then the team would be down 2 RBs when Benson is gone.

 

[Johnny Blood]

Cedric also said he hadn't been notified by the league he was getting suspended, which was false. Just another thing to consider.

 

[cvnpoka]

dont understand why they suspend guys and then not suspend them

 

[az_prof]

Scott's dynasty potential has been mostly speculative thus far...

He's 27 years old!

Don't understand why people fixate on age of guys like Scott and even Greene. Wear and tear from number of career carries is far more indicative of how much tread is left on a guy's tires.

Actually, the analogy to car tires is a completely false analogy. Human bodies are not like tires. A tire has a certain amount of miles. Period. At that point the tread is gone. A RB could carry the ball 10,000 times and if he never gets hit in just the wrong way he is just as capable as an equally old back who has 0 career carries. Serious injuries collectively DO have an impact. Age, however, for humans, affects us no matter if we are getting 300 carries a season or none. The joints of a 30 year old back who has run a ton are similar (past injury aside) to those of a back who has had few carries. Same for the muscle tissue and bones. It isn't like the ligaments wear away a bit every time they touch the football, the way the tread of a tire does every time you drive.

Someone on here did a study of this a while ago to prove this. The bottom line is that backs start losing it around 29 or 30. At 27 Scott has perhaps 3 more years of quality play left, if he gets the opportunity. The best and most talented backs can play a few more years (see Ricky Williams or LT), but not many, and nor for long. It doesn't matter how much "tread"they have left. The truth is that the less talented guys are usually LONG out of the league by the time they reach 30.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Actually, the analogy to car tires is a completely false analogy. Human bodies are not like tires.

Looks down at stomach... Anyway, Marvin confirmed Benson will play this week, per rotoworld.-QG

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I'm guessing he will play even longer the the Bills game because they have no timetable for when his hearing will be.

Minimum 2-3 weeks, perhaps longer than that.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

dont understand why they suspend guys and then not suspend them

Because the players have the right to dispute or argue, is that unfair to you? They send a letter to players letting them know they are being suspended and then the player has the right to contest it. Many times they don't especially if it is due to a failed drug test but in this instance I think benson has some beef. The problem is they suspended Pryor for 5 games and he wasn't an NFL player yet so Benson's argument that he wasn't signed and not really an NFL player when he committed these rule violations likely will not be held up. Of course the Bengals will encourage him to fight it because Cinci benefits by him being on the field while they get Dalton acclimated to life int he NFL. benson is leaned on heavily especially early in these football games allowing Dalton to get his feet wet and get into the rhythm of the games. From a coaching stand point Cinci is doing a pretty solid job with this kid.

 

[QuizGuy66]

dont understand why they suspend guys and then not suspend them

Because the players have the right to dispute or argue, is that unfair to you? They send a letter to players letting them know they are being suspended and then the player has the right to contest it. Many times they don't especially if it is due to a failed dry test but in this instance I think benson has some beef. The problem is they suspended Pryor for 5 games and he wasn't an NFL player yet so Benson's argument that he wasn't signed and not really an NFL player when he committed these rule violations likely will not be held up. Of course the Bengals will encourage him to fight it because Cinci benefits by him being on the field while they get Dalton acclimated to life int he NFL. benson is leaned on heavily especially early in these football games allowing Dalton to get his feet wet and get into the rhythm of the games. From a coaching stand point Cinci is doing a pretty solid job with this kid.

I don't think the Pryor case would have any bearing on Benson at all. Pryor consented to the suspension and did not pursue things in the way Benson. I actually like Benson's chances.FWIW, this will back-up any suspension for the other 7 listed players you have to figure.-QG

 

[Ministry of Pain]

dont understand why they suspend guys and then not suspend them

Because the players have the right to dispute or argue, is that unfair to you? They send a letter to players letting them know they are being suspended and then the player has the right to contest it. Many times they don't especially if it is due to a failed drug test but in this instance I think benson has some beef. The problem is they suspended Pryor for 5 games and he wasn't an NFL player yet so Benson's argument that he wasn't signed and not really an NFL player when he committed these rule violations likely will not be held up. Of course the Bengals will encourage him to fight it because Cinci benefits by him being on the field while they get Dalton acclimated to life int he NFL. Benson is leaned on heavily especially early in these football games allowing Dalton to get his feet wet and get into the rhythm of the games. From a coaching stand point Cinci is doing a pretty solid job with this kid.

I don't think the Pryor case would have any bearing on Benson at all. Pryor consented to the suspension and did not pursue things in the way Benson. I actually like Benson's chances.FWIW, this will back-up any suspension for the other 7 listed players you have to figure.-QG

I'm just saying he(Pryor) was suspended and not an NFL player yet, Benson contends that he wasn't signed and therefore wasn't really in the union or an NFL player when that happened. Goodell has shown he doesn't care but Benson may opt for a longer legal discussion about this. Meaning Goodell or whoever, is actually going to have to go to a judge to settle this, not just suspend on a whim because he feels like it but I think in the end as usual Goodell will win. This could get dragged out over the rest of the season, that won't surprise me at all but it will make the Bernard Scott owners jump off the ledge.

 

[socrates]

Actually, the analogy to car tires is a completely false analogy. Human bodies are not like tires.

Looks down at stomach...

I resemble that remark!This suspension is a mess. I don't know what rules apply here for the appeals process, but it seems that until the NFL hears his grievance, he should be allowed to play.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Benson will surely play until the appeal is resolved.

The one analogy I can think of is the infamous NHL Doughnutgate incident b/w Coach Jim Schoenfeld and Don Koharski in the '88 Stanley Cup Playoffs. It's a classic story you should check out and I can't do it justice in one short post. Anyone, long story short, the NHL suspended Schoenfeld "indefinitely" following the incident. Indefinitely is a pretty long time in a 7-game playoff series and the Devils wanted to appeal to League President John Ziegler as was their right under the league rules. The NHL said he was unavailable (btw the supposed backstory was he was trying to save his son from a religious cult and was out of the country - during the Stanley Cup Semi-Finals!). Because they were being denied their right to appeal, the Devils sought remedy by getting a judge to grant a stay of the suspension and the judge granted this and it forced the NHL to allow Schoenfeld behind the bench. Anyhow, that's only part of this great story. My point here is that if the process is deemed improper, the court can certainly step in.

-QG

 

[Kenny Powers]

I'm guessing he will play even longer the the Bills game because they have no timetable for when his hearing will be. Minimum 2-3 weeks, perhaps longer than that.

So his suspension might not be finalized for another month? Thats ridiculous.If thats the case, Im not holding onto Scott.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I found this.

Definitely worth a read for Benson owners.

 

[dwashington]

I found this.

Definitely worth a read for Benson owners.

Benson attended his suspension appeal Tuesday. He called it a "good meeting,'' yet came away more skeptical at the good his union was doing him. "One of the big things [the league] was putting their hat on was the letter with the NFLPA,'' said Benson.

By the way, none of the seven other repeat offenders has been suspended.

Benson said he doesn't mind blazing a trail on this issue. He has filed an unfair labor practice charge with the National Labor Relations Board, against the NFL Players Association. A prominent player agent told me this week that the NLRB normally handles disputes between unions and management, not between a union member and his union. But Benson's main point -- that the players association gave away his right to work -- isn't untenable.

"The evidence is right there in front of them,'' Benson said. "If I have to be the one to stand up and face some things, to make some changes, whether with the PA or the NFL, that's something I have to do.''

Meantime, his appeal hasn't been resolved. Benson will play for the Bengals Sunday. After that?

"There hasn't been a decision on how many games, or if there will be any games,'' said Benson. "I just want to go out there and kick some butt, just in case, for whatever reason, I'm not out there after this weekend. I want to end on a big note.''

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/paul_daugherty/09/29/Benson/index.html#ixzz1ZOMnMHyG

Might be an inspired performance from Cell Block Ced this Sunday.

 

[fCheeze]

I'm guessing he will play even longer the the Bills game because they have no timetable for when his hearing will be. Minimum 2-3 weeks, perhaps longer than that.

So his suspension might not be finalized for another month? Thats ridiculous.If thats the case, Im not holding onto Scott.

By next tuesdayt RT @: @ClaytonESPN John, When do you expect a decision on Benson? Thank you

 

[coachbobbyfinstock]

Ok, so he's going to play. What can be expected from him. Typical 3 yds and a cloud of dust?

 

[DoubleG]

Ok, so he's going to play. What can be expected from him. Typical 3 yds and a cloud of dust?

Yep - and at 25 carries that Cincy will pile on him plus a TD, that's about 13.5 fantasy points. Solid.

 

[greggorymac]

Any new chatter on Benson's potential suspension?

 

[flooredyas]

Wasn't it mentioned that a decision would be made Tuesday? Could be wrong, as perhaps it was a fantasy guru's speculation.

 

[Isotopes]

Wasn't it mentioned that a decision would be made Tuesday? Could be wrong, as perhaps it was a fantasy guru's speculation.

Any word on the Benson suspension? Can't find any info.

 

[Rylenol]

Wasn't it mentioned that a decision would be made Tuesday? Could be wrong, as perhaps it was a fantasy guru's speculation.

Any word on the Benson suspension? Can't find any info.

Per roto, latest as of today:Commissioner Roger Goodell suggested Monday that a decision on Cedric Benson's suspension appeal "will be coming shortly."ESPN's John Clayton calls the appeal a "complicated deal" because the NFLPA is involved. Benson's status is "still up in the air," but a ruling could be handed down by the end of the day. Benson owners should have Bernard Scott rostered as insurance. Oct 4 - 1:53 PM

 

[Otis]

 

[djjosee]

Cedric Benson - RB - Bengals According to ESPN's John Clayton, Cedric Benson (suspension) "should be able to play" this week.

Even if the NFL upholds Benson's suspension, it's not expected to kick in until next week. For now, fantasy owners can count on using Benson against a Jaguars defense allowing the 19th-most fantasy points to opposing backs. Bernard Scott will have to wait at least another week.

I picked up Scott for my week 5 bye issues!

 

[griff321]

So much for my bye week insurance. Yikes.

 

[swampdog]

bump, any news? supposed to be today, and today is almost over.

 

[footballnerd]

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter

At this point it would be a major upset if Bengals RB Cedric Benson - facing a three-game suspension - were not allowed to play Sunday.

 

[ChainsawU]

(Rotoworld) Benson's lawyer, David Cornwell, told Profootballtalk last week that there were "numerous objections" to the suspension. The biggest holdup is still the question as to whether the NFL has the power to suspend players for off-field infractions during the lockout. In Benson's case, he was a free agent and not under contract to any NFL team at the time of his last arrest.

Also,

(Rotoworld) Brian Leonard confirmed his role as the Bengals' third-down and two-minute drill back.Analysis: If Cedric Benson ends up suspended, Leonard will see a small bump in touches. But the majority of feature back work will go to Bernard Scott. Leonard has averaged just 3.37 touches per game in 29 career outings as a Bengal.

 

[LargeMouthBass]

(Rotoworld) Benson's lawyer, David Cornwell, told Profootballtalk last week that there were "numerous objections" to the suspension. The biggest holdup is still the question as to whether the NFL has the power to suspend players for off-field infractions during the lockout. In Benson's case, he was a free agent and not under contract to any NFL team at the time of his last arrest.

Also,

(Rotoworld) Brian Leonard confirmed his role as the Bengals' third-down and two-minute drill back.Analysis: If Cedric Benson ends up suspended, Leonard will see a small bump in touches. But the majority of feature back work will go to Bernard Scott. Leonard has averaged just 3.37 touches per game in 29 career outings as a Bengal.

I'm willing to bet he's not gonna get suspended for any games.

 

[kimbosliced]

At this point is he worth the hold?

 

[DoubleG]

At this point is he worth the hold?

Seriously? Of course. If I were to tell you that an RB2 (ranked RB16 right now)who was averaging 19+ touches per game (and 4.5 YPC) was possibly going miss a few weeks, but be back in time for the FF playoffs against Houston, the Rams and Arizona - would you keep him?

 

[kimbosliced]

At this point is he worth the hold?

Seriously? Of course. If I were to tell you that an RB2 (ranked RB16 right now)who was averaging 19+ touches per game (and 4.5 YPC) was possibly going miss a few weeks, but be back in time for the FF playoffs against Houston, the Rams and Arizona - would you keep him?

Lol, I meant to say "At this point is B. Scott worth a hold?" sorry. Think this question makes more sense.

 

[The Doctor]

b scott isnt worth anything

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

LOL I've been holding onto Scott for 2 weeks now - is anything going to happen?

 

[Rylenol]

b scott isnt worth anything

Sounds like something a Scott-less Benson owner would say. That couldn't be you, could it?

 

[Rylenol]

At this point is he worth the hold?

With the heavy bye weeks in full swing he absolutely is.

 

[GreenNGold]

b scott isnt worth anything

Sounds like something a Scott-less Benson owner would say. That couldn't be you, could it?

I am a Benson-less Scott owner starting to think b scott isn't worth anything

 

[mr roboto]

b scott isnt worth anything

Sounds like something a Scott-less Benson owner would say. That couldn't be you, could it?

I am a Benson-less Scott owner starting to think b scott isn't worth anything

ditto

 

[Kenny Powers]

Yeah, Im sick of this crap. Scott is wasting a spot on my bench. I just offered Scott and Denarius Moore to the Benson owner for Holmes, hopefully they accept ASAP