Cedric Benson SIGNED with Green Bay. (1 Viewer)

[Chicago Hooligan]

It's not like Benson will be playing special teams, and the Packers wouldn't sign a guy like this as a luxury. If he can still run with power, even at less than 4 ypc, he will get 150 carries minimum and be on the field a lot.

Grant/Kuhn accounted for 200+ touches last year, and Starks/Green/Saine haven't indicated they're worthy of that workload even in rotation. Starks could go from presumptive starter to being cut before the season begins (my speculation).

I'm not stoked for big fantasy returns from Benson, as GB will still prefer to pass even at the goalline.

Predicting Benson at 185 att. / 700 yds / 5 TDs

 

[Raider Nation]

Predicting Benson at 185 att. / 700 yds / 5 TDs

Keep going.He is going to have MONSTER holes to run through with all the other weapons on that offense.

 

[Badm]

When the heck is he gonna sign already....

 

[Hoosier16]

Obviously, his dynasty value has gone up, but where is it at right now? In terms of a draft pick, if you need a RB for a year or two, what do you pay for Benson? If you are well stocked at RB and are a seller, at what price do you sell? As a seller, do you sell now before the season or do you wait with the hope that Benson grabs the majority of the carries?I'm kind of leaning towards selling now and not taking the chance that he ends up in a full blown RBBC. I think without a high 2nd, I'd hold into the season and hope he appears to be the main guy before trying again.

Benson was been on the WW in some leagues, and really has only very short trem value. If anything his one year play value might be better than whatever package of 3rd/4th rounders that is a probable offer.

If you're saying you'd take a 3rd round pick for him I think I'd sit on him just to keep him off of another team.

 

[Hoosier16]

Obviously, his dynasty value has gone up, but where is it at right now? In terms of a draft pick, if you need a RB for a year or two, what do you pay for Benson? If you are well stocked at RB and are a seller, at what price do you sell? As a seller, do you sell now before the season or do you wait with the hope that Benson grabs the majority of the carries?I'm kind of leaning towards selling now and not taking the chance that he ends up in a full blown RBBC. I think without a high 2nd, I'd hold into the season and hope he appears to be the main guy before trying again.

Im going to sell to the guy who I traded Starks to (for Sid Rice) on Thuesday morning.

What value (in draft pick terms) do you expect?

 

[Hoosier16]

Obviously, his dynasty value has gone up, but where is it at right now? In terms of a draft pick, if you need a RB for a year or two, what do you pay for Benson? If you are well stocked at RB and are a seller, at what price do you sell? As a seller, do you sell now before the season or do you wait with the hope that Benson grabs the majority of the carries?I'm kind of leaning towards selling now and not taking the chance that he ends up in a full blown RBBC. I think without a high 2nd, I'd hold into the season and hope he appears to be the main guy before trying again.

Benson was been on the WW in some leagues, and really has only very short trem value. If anything his one year play value might be better than whatever package of 3rd/4th rounders that is a probable offer.

In a league of Packer fans. I grabbed him off the FA list last night and expect to be offered a pretty nice bounty for him. The loyalty of Packer fans extends to Fantasy Football also where they will pay premium prices for waiver wire fodder.

What value would make you pull the trigger?

 

[coolnerd]

Obviously, his dynasty value has gone up, but where is it at right now? In terms of a draft pick, if you need a RB for a year or two, what do you pay for Benson? If you are well stocked at RB and are a seller, at what price do you sell? As a seller, do you sell now before the season or do you wait with the hope that Benson grabs the majority of the carries?I'm kind of leaning towards selling now and not taking the chance that he ends up in a full blown RBBC. I think without a high 2nd, I'd hold into the season and hope he appears to be the main guy before trying again.

Benson was been on the WW in some leagues, and really has only very short trem value. If anything his one year play value might be better than whatever package of 3rd/4th rounders that is a probable offer.

If you're saying you'd take a 3rd round pick for him I think I'd sit on him just to keep him off of another team.

In the leagues, i have him, I am probably just sitting on him and keeping him for byes, injuries,etc. I didn't say i would take a 3rd for him. i suspect that the type of offers i would get for him. i would only see a 2nd coming from a short term built team with RB issues.

 

[Eviloutsider]

Took a flyer in the 10th on him today. I'm ok with that risk.

 

[Willink]

Predicting Benson at 185 att. / 700 yds / 5 TDs

Keep going.He is going to have MONSTER holes to run through with all the other weapons on that offense.

I wouldn't say "monster"but this is the best team Benson has played on his entire career. GB also, contrary to the standard set last season would much prefer to run the ball in in goal line situations. See Grant's 2009 numbers and the approach McCarthy took that season when provided with a guy to bang inside. Not sure Benson, if he starts, will be a 700-1000 yard guy, but he should be able to eat most of Kuhn's RZ stuff and wrack up some touchdowns.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Benson is a spent force and a placeholder now that the Packers have figured out Starks is not very good. IMO either Alex Green moves into the lead role by the end of the year (if healthy) or the Packers go find another RB for 2013.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

An offense like GB takes years to master,

 

[The Kerminator]

You guys are going way overboard with this topic. An offense like GB takes years to master, especially with a RB needing to know hundreds of plays and different ways of picking up blitzes from each of them. Benson isn't going to walk in and be a starter anytime soon.

Cedric was brought in for depth at a thin position and to push Green and Starks to be better, since someone is waiting in the wings if they don't figure it out. There's no fantasy value here, and I would be shocked if he started a game ahead of Starks, injury barring. I would be shocked if Cedric sees more offensive plays the first half of the year than Alex Green.

I actually think everything you just typed is incorrect. That's not easy to do.

$ where your mouth is? Any amount that Benson doesn't start for GB the first four games barring injury.

Sure. $100 sound good? Pick the moderator of your choice to hold the cash.

James Starks suffered a turf toe injury and is out indefinitely. Probably the reason GB is interested in Benson and meyerj31's out.

 

[Raider Nation]

You guys are going way overboard with this topic. An offense like GB takes years to master, especially with a RB needing to know hundreds of plays and different ways of picking up blitzes from each of them. Benson isn't going to walk in and be a starter anytime soon.

Cedric was brought in for depth at a thin position and to push Green and Starks to be better, since someone is waiting in the wings if they don't figure it out. There's no fantasy value here, and I would be shocked if he started a game ahead of Starks, injury barring. I would be shocked if Cedric sees more offensive plays the first half of the year than Alex Green.

I actually think everything you just typed is incorrect. That's not easy to do.

$ where your mouth is? Any amount that Benson doesn't start for GB the first four games barring injury.

Sure. $100 sound good? Pick the moderator of your choice to hold the cash.

James Starks suffered a turf toe injury and is out indefinitely. Probably the reason GB is interested in Benson and meyerj31's out.

This news came out within the past hour. I know meyer Hellmuth saw my offer last night.Whatever, I'm over it.

 

[LawFitz]

What the heck is going on here? Did Benson actually sign with the pack? Why hasn't it become official yet?

 

[BallparkFrank]

This is starting to feel like a big April Fools joke. Very strange how he's been a Packer for 3 days...w/o actually being a Packer.

 

[Willink]

This is starting to feel like a big April Fools joke. Very strange how he's been a Packer for 3 days...w/o actually being a Packer.

It's been confirmed:http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/08/12/12/Exclusive-Green-confirms-Benson-signing/landing_packers.html?blockID=774643&feedID=5059

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Predicting Benson at 185 att. / 700 yds / 5 TDs

Keep going.He is going to have MONSTER holes to run through with all the other weapons on that offense.

GB actually doesn't have a good run blocking OL, they're very good pass blocking however.

 

[Bruce Leroy]

GB actually doesn't have a good run blocking OL, they're very good pass blocking however.

I think they're pretty good at run-blocking. They simply haven't had a quality RB to take advantage.

 

[Raider Nation]

Predicting Benson at 185 att. / 700 yds / 5 TDs

Keep going.He is going to have MONSTER holes to run through with all the other weapons on that offense.

GB actually doesn't have a good run blocking OL, they're very good pass blocking however.

That's kind of an odd blanket statement. When you have to worry about all of Green Bay's pass-catchers, there will always be holes.Starks - 2011

Looks like you could drive a truck through some of those gaps.

 

[meyerj31]

You guys are going way overboard with this topic. An offense like GB takes years to master, especially with a RB needing to know hundreds of plays and different ways of picking up blitzes from each of them. Benson isn't going to walk in and be a starter anytime soon.

Cedric was brought in for depth at a thin position and to push Green and Starks to be better, since someone is waiting in the wings if they don't figure it out. There's no fantasy value here, and I would be shocked if he started a game ahead of Starks, injury barring. I would be shocked if Cedric sees more offensive plays the first half of the year than Alex Green.

I actually think everything you just typed is incorrect. That's not easy to do.

$ where your mouth is? Any amount that Benson doesn't start for GB the first four games barring injury.

Sure. $100 sound good? Pick the moderator of your choice to hold the cash.

James Starks suffered a turf toe injury and is out indefinitely. Probably the reason GB is interested in Benson and meyerj31's out.

This news came out within the past hour. I know meyer Hellmuth saw my offer last night.Whatever, I'm over it.

I saw it, and I was waiting a bit for more information. I've been a Packer fan for a long time and Ted T just doesn't sign aging free agents. There had to be a reason for it beyond Starks dropping a pass and fumbling in the first preseason game. Now we know why they did it - Starks injured himself, and likely in the preseason game. They just didn't announce the injury, which they don't have to until the season begins.

 

[VaTerp]

You guys are going way overboard with this topic. An offense like GB takes years to master, especially with a RB needing to know hundreds of plays and different ways of picking up blitzes from each of them. Benson isn't going to walk in and be a starter anytime soon.

Cedric was brought in for depth at a thin position and to push Green and Starks to be better, since someone is waiting in the wings if they don't figure it out. There's no fantasy value here, and I would be shocked if he started a game ahead of Starks, injury barring. I would be shocked if Cedric sees more offensive plays the first half of the year than Alex Green.

I actually think everything you just typed is incorrect. That's not easy to do.

$ where your mouth is? Any amount that Benson doesn't start for GB the first four games barring injury.

Sure. $100 sound good? Pick the moderator of your choice to hold the cash.

James Starks suffered a turf toe injury and is out indefinitely. Probably the reason GB is interested in Benson and meyerj31's out.

This news came out within the past hour. I know meyer Hellmuth saw my offer last night.Whatever, I'm over it.

I saw it, and I was waiting a bit for more information. I've been a Packer fan for a long time and Ted T just doesn't sign aging free agents. There had to be a reason for it beyond Starks dropping a pass and fumbling in the first preseason game. Now we know why they did it - Starks injured himself, and likely in the preseason game. They just didn't announce the injury, which they don't have to until the season begins.

What a backpedal.Perhaps TT could sign you to shore up the depth in the defensive backfield. Or would it be because somebody's injured and you need some more info......

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Predicting Benson at 185 att. / 700 yds / 5 TDs

Keep going.He is going to have MONSTER holes to run through with all the other weapons on that offense.

GB actually doesn't have a good run blocking OL, they're very good pass blocking however.

That's kind of an odd blanket statement. When you have to worry about all of Green Bay's pass-catchers, there will always be holes.Starks - 2011

Looks like you could drive a truck through some of those gaps.

So i'm making things up? I live in Wisconsin and see quite a few games, besides that I will include links.Showing highlights of Starks is irrelevant. Scott Wells/Clifton are gone. Wells has been their best OL the last two years(according to Ted Thompson).

LT- Newhouse/Deitrich/Sherrod/Datko - Who's starting out here is a question mark at this point(Newhouse allowed 41 pressures in 2011 and is currently injured)...can't be a good sign for the run game. Sherrod still isn't recovered from his injury and Datko has had a horrible camp. Proof

LG- TJ Lang- Proof

C- Jeff Saturday-Good pass blocker...average run blocker or maybe worse at this point of his career(37 years old). An AFC personnel director with a long history studying Saturday viewed the player differently. "He's certainly not the player he once was," the executive said. "Starting to lose range and mobility. Not going to win with power or strength. He will struggle some with anchor. "He will call out fronts and get things lined up. But once the whistle blows, if he can't win with leverage and angles, there's going to be some limitations. He will be a short-term fix with intangibles that maybe allow him to squeeze out another year." Proof

RG- Josh Sitton - Very underrated G in the NFL. Better pass blocker than run blocker. Proof

RT- Bryan Bulaga - Solid RT with chance to be one of the better RT in the game. Only Starting OL that graded out as a better run than pass blocker.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

You guys are going way overboard with this topic. An offense like GB takes years to master, especially with a RB needing to know hundreds of plays and different ways of picking up blitzes from each of them. Benson isn't going to walk in and be a starter anytime soon.

Cedric was brought in for depth at a thin position and to push Green and Starks to be better, since someone is waiting in the wings if they don't figure it out. There's no fantasy value here, and I would be shocked if he started a game ahead of Starks, injury barring. I would be shocked if Cedric sees more offensive plays the first half of the year than Alex Green.

I actually think everything you just typed is incorrect. That's not easy to do.

$ where your mouth is? Any amount that Benson doesn't start for GB the first four games barring injury.

Sure. $100 sound good? Pick the moderator of your choice to hold the cash.

James Starks suffered a turf toe injury and is out indefinitely. Probably the reason GB is interested in Benson and meyerj31's out.

This news came out within the past hour. I know meyer Hellmuth saw my offer last night.Whatever, I'm over it.

I saw it, and I was waiting a bit for more information. I've been a Packer fan for a long time and Ted T just doesn't sign aging free agents. There had to be a reason for it beyond Starks dropping a pass and fumbling in the first preseason game. Now we know why they did it - Starks injured himself, and likely in the preseason game. They just didn't announce the injury, which they don't have to until the season begins.

Weaksauce

 

[sho nuff]

Predicting Benson at 185 att. / 700 yds / 5 TDs

Keep going.He is going to have MONSTER holes to run through with all the other weapons on that offense.

GB actually doesn't have a good run blocking OL, they're very good pass blocking however.

That's kind of an odd blanket statement. When you have to worry about all of Green Bay's pass-catchers, there will always be holes.Starks - 2011

Looks like you could drive a truck through some of those gaps.

So i'm making things up? I live in Wisconsin and see quite a few games, besides that I will include links.Showing highlights of Starks is irrelevant. Scott Wells/Clifton are gone. Wells has been their best OL the last two years(according to Ted Thompson).

LT- Newhouse/Deitrich/Sherrod/Datko - Who's starting out here is a question mark at this point(Newhouse allowed 41 pressures in 2011 and is currently injured)...can't be a good sign for the run game. Sherrod still isn't recovered from his injury and Datko has had a horrible camp. Proof

LG- TJ Lang- Proof

C- Jeff Saturday-Good pass blocker...average run blocker or maybe worse at this point of his career(37 years old). An AFC personnel director with a long history studying Saturday viewed the player differently. "He's certainly not the player he once was," the executive said. "Starting to lose range and mobility. Not going to win with power or strength. He will struggle some with anchor. "He will call out fronts and get things lined up. But once the whistle blows, if he can't win with leverage and angles, there's going to be some limitations. He will be a short-term fix with intangibles that maybe allow him to squeeze out another year." Proof

RG- Josh Sitton - Very underrated G in the NFL. Better pass blocker than run blocker. Proof

RT- Bryan Bulaga - Solid RT with chance to be one of the better RT in the game. Only Starting OL that graded out as a better run than pass blocker.

While they are not great run blocking...to say they are a good pass blocking line is a bit out there too.Though, much of that comes through the questions at LT right now.

Lang had a solid year at LG last year.

Saturday should be fine for a year.

Sitton has all the talent but had a bad year last year. He is a better pass blocker than run blocker...but he can run block and many of the runs last year when they needed yards would go to his side with Wells last season.

BUlaga...solid for sure...needs to keep improving.

LT is still the big question.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Predicting Benson at 185 att. / 700 yds / 5 TDs

Keep going.He is going to have MONSTER holes to run through with all the other weapons on that offense.

GB actually doesn't have a good run blocking OL, they're very good pass blocking however.

That's kind of an odd blanket statement. When you have to worry about all of Green Bay's pass-catchers, there will always be holes.Starks - 2011

Looks like you could drive a truck through some of those gaps.

So i'm making things up? I live in Wisconsin and see quite a few games, besides that I will include links.Showing highlights of Starks is irrelevant. Scott Wells/Clifton are gone. Wells has been their best OL the last two years(according to Ted Thompson).

LT- Newhouse/Deitrich/Sherrod/Datko - Who's starting out here is a question mark at this point(Newhouse allowed 41 pressures in 2011 and is currently injured)...can't be a good sign for the run game. Sherrod still isn't recovered from his injury and Datko has had a horrible camp. Proof

LG- TJ Lang- Proof

C- Jeff Saturday-Good pass blocker...average run blocker or maybe worse at this point of his career(37 years old). An AFC personnel director with a long history studying Saturday viewed the player differently. "He's certainly not the player he once was," the executive said. "Starting to lose range and mobility. Not going to win with power or strength. He will struggle some with anchor. "He will call out fronts and get things lined up. But once the whistle blows, if he can't win with leverage and angles, there's going to be some limitations. He will be a short-term fix with intangibles that maybe allow him to squeeze out another year." Proof

RG- Josh Sitton - Very underrated G in the NFL. Better pass blocker than run blocker. Proof

RT- Bryan Bulaga - Solid RT with chance to be one of the better RT in the game. Only Starting OL that graded out as a better run than pass blocker.

While they are not great run blocking...to say they are a good pass blocking line is a bit out there too.Though, much of that comes through the questions at LT right now.

Lang had a solid year at LG last year.

Saturday should be fine for a year.

Sitton has all the talent but had a bad year last year. He is a better pass blocker than run blocker...but he can run block and many of the runs last year when they needed yards would go to his side with Wells last season.

BUlaga...solid for sure...needs to keep improving.

LT is still the big question.

You agree better Pass blocking than run though?

 

[The Kerminator]

You guys are going way overboard with this topic. An offense like GB takes years to master, especially with a RB needing to know hundreds of plays and different ways of picking up blitzes from each of them. Benson isn't going to walk in and be a starter anytime soon.

Cedric was brought in for depth at a thin position and to push Green and Starks to be better, since someone is waiting in the wings if they don't figure it out. There's no fantasy value here, and I would be shocked if he started a game ahead of Starks, injury barring. I would be shocked if Cedric sees more offensive plays the first half of the year than Alex Green.

I actually think everything you just typed is incorrect. That's not easy to do.

$ where your mouth is? Any amount that Benson doesn't start for GB the first four games barring injury.

Sure. $100 sound good? Pick the moderator of your choice to hold the cash.

James Starks suffered a turf toe injury and is out indefinitely. Probably the reason GB is interested in Benson and meyerj31's out.

This news came out within the past hour. I know meyer Hellmuth saw my offer last night.Whatever, I'm over it.

I saw it, and I was waiting a bit for more information. I've been a Packer fan for a long time and Ted T just doesn't sign aging free agents. There had to be a reason for it beyond Starks dropping a pass and fumbling in the first preseason game. Now we know why they did it - Starks injured himself, and likely in the preseason game. They just didn't announce the injury, which they don't have to until the season begins.

Like I said, there was your out. A pretty weak excuse but you did say barring injury. I guess it depends on how you define injury.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

This isn't right...

superlol at this btw

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

This isn't right...

superlol at this btw

If you can't make fun of yourself at times, you're not a real man IMO. I like to have some fun.

 

[steelerfan1]

LT- Newhouse/Deitrich/Sherrod/Datko - Who's starting out here is a question mark at this point(Newhouse allowed 41 pressures in 2011 and is currently injured)...can't be a good sign for the run game. Sherrod still isn't recovered from his injury and Datko has had a horrible camp. Proof

LG- TJ Lang- Proof

C- Jeff Saturday-Good pass blocker...average run blocker or maybe worse at this point of his career(37 years old). An AFC personnel director with a long history studying Saturday viewed the player differently. "He's certainly not the player he once was," the executive said. "Starting to lose range and mobility. Not going to win with power or strength. He will struggle some with anchor. "He will call out fronts and get things lined up. But once the whistle blows, if he can't win with leverage and angles, there's going to be some limitations. He will be a short-term fix with intangibles that maybe allow him to squeeze out another year." Proof

RG- Josh Sitton - Very underrated G in the NFL. Better pass blocker than run blocker. Proof

RT- Bryan Bulaga - Solid RT with chance to be one of the better RT in the game. Only Starting OL that graded out as a better run than pass blocker.

While they are not great run blocking...to say they are a good pass blocking line is a bit out there too.

Though, much of that comes through the questions at LT right now.

Lang had a solid year at LG last year.

Saturday should be fine for a year.

Sitton has all the talent but had a bad year last year. He is a better pass blocker than run blocker...but he can run block and many of the runs last year when they needed yards would go to his side with Wells last season.

BUlaga...solid for sure...needs to keep improving.

LT is still the big question.

hi guys,sorry to hack this thread, but fbg hasn't posted the a rodgers spotlight yet.

how bad is this line compared to lastyear?

didn't get a chance to see or know who they had lastyear and how that has changed?

could this bump rodgers down a tad compared to astyears o-line?

again, sorry to post in a benson thread.

 

[sho nuff]

LT- Newhouse/Deitrich/Sherrod/Datko - Who's starting out here is a question mark at this point(Newhouse allowed 41 pressures in 2011 and is currently injured)...can't be a good sign for the run game. Sherrod still isn't recovered from his injury and Datko has had a horrible camp. Proof

LG- TJ Lang- Proof

C- Jeff Saturday-Good pass blocker...average run blocker or maybe worse at this point of his career(37 years old). An AFC personnel director with a long history studying Saturday viewed the player differently. "He's certainly not the player he once was," the executive said. "Starting to lose range and mobility. Not going to win with power or strength. He will struggle some with anchor. "He will call out fronts and get things lined up. But once the whistle blows, if he can't win with leverage and angles, there's going to be some limitations. He will be a short-term fix with intangibles that maybe allow him to squeeze out another year." Proof

RG- Josh Sitton - Very underrated G in the NFL. Better pass blocker than run blocker. Proof

RT- Bryan Bulaga - Solid RT with chance to be one of the better RT in the game. Only Starting OL that graded out as a better run than pass blocker.

While they are not great run blocking...to say they are a good pass blocking line is a bit out there too.

Though, much of that comes through the questions at LT right now.

Lang had a solid year at LG last year.

Saturday should be fine for a year.

Sitton has all the talent but had a bad year last year. He is a better pass blocker than run blocker...but he can run block and many of the runs last year when they needed yards would go to his side with Wells last season.

BUlaga...solid for sure...needs to keep improving.

LT is still the big question.

hi guys,sorry to hack this thread, but fbg hasn't posted the a rodgers spotlight yet.

how bad is this line compared to lastyear?

didn't get a chance to see or know who they had lastyear and how that has changed?

could this bump rodgers down a tad compared to astyears o-line?

again, sorry to post in a benson thread.

If Newhouse gets over the concussion...the only difference will be Saturday at center instead of Wells.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

LT- Newhouse/Deitrich/Sherrod/Datko - Who's starting out here is a question mark at this point(Newhouse allowed 41 pressures in 2011 and is currently injured)...can't be a good sign for the run game. Sherrod still isn't recovered from his injury and Datko has had a horrible camp. Proof

LG- TJ Lang- Proof

C- Jeff Saturday-Good pass blocker...average run blocker or maybe worse at this point of his career(37 years old). An AFC personnel director with a long history studying Saturday viewed the player differently. "He's certainly not the player he once was," the executive said. "Starting to lose range and mobility. Not going to win with power or strength. He will struggle some with anchor. "He will call out fronts and get things lined up. But once the whistle blows, if he can't win with leverage and angles, there's going to be some limitations. He will be a short-term fix with intangibles that maybe allow him to squeeze out another year." Proof

RG- Josh Sitton - Very underrated G in the NFL. Better pass blocker than run blocker. Proof

RT- Bryan Bulaga - Solid RT with chance to be one of the better RT in the game. Only Starting OL that graded out as a better run than pass blocker.

While they are not great run blocking...to say they are a good pass blocking line is a bit out there too.

Though, much of that comes through the questions at LT right now.

Lang had a solid year at LG last year.

Saturday should be fine for a year.

Sitton has all the talent but had a bad year last year. He is a better pass blocker than run blocker...but he can run block and many of the runs last year when they needed yards would go to his side with Wells last season.

BUlaga...solid for sure...needs to keep improving.

LT is still the big question.

hi guys,sorry to hack this thread, but fbg hasn't posted the a rodgers spotlight yet.

how bad is this line compared to lastyear?

didn't get a chance to see or know who they had lastyear and how that has changed?

could this bump rodgers down a tad compared to astyears o-line?

again, sorry to post in a benson thread.

If Newhouse gets over the concussion...the only difference will be Saturday at center instead of Wells.

Well, the other difference is that Newhouse, Lang, Sitton and Bulaga will each have 1 more year of experience, both individually and playing together. That is worth something.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Predicting Benson at 185 att. / 700 yds / 5 TDs

Keep going.He is going to have MONSTER holes to run through with all the other weapons on that offense.

GB actually doesn't have a good run blocking OL, they're very good pass blocking however.

That's kind of an odd blanket statement. When you have to worry about all of Green Bay's pass-catchers, there will always be holes.Starks - 2011

Looks like you could drive a truck through some of those gaps.

So i'm making things up? I live in Wisconsin and see quite a few games, besides that I will include links.Showing highlights of Starks is irrelevant. Scott Wells/Clifton are gone. Wells has been their best OL the last two years(according to Ted Thompson).

LT- Newhouse/Deitrich/Sherrod/Datko - Who's starting out here is a question mark at this point(Newhouse allowed 41 pressures in 2011 and is currently injured)...can't be a good sign for the run game. Sherrod still isn't recovered from his injury and Datko has had a horrible camp. Proof

LG- TJ Lang- Proof

C- Jeff Saturday-Good pass blocker...average run blocker or maybe worse at this point of his career(37 years old). An AFC personnel director with a long history studying Saturday viewed the player differently. "He's certainly not the player he once was," the executive said. "Starting to lose range and mobility. Not going to win with power or strength. He will struggle some with anchor. "He will call out fronts and get things lined up. But once the whistle blows, if he can't win with leverage and angles, there's going to be some limitations. He will be a short-term fix with intangibles that maybe allow him to squeeze out another year." Proof

RG- Josh Sitton - Very underrated G in the NFL. Better pass blocker than run blocker. Proof

RT- Bryan Bulaga - Solid RT with chance to be one of the better RT in the game. Only Starting OL that graded out as a better run than pass blocker.

While they are not great run blocking...to say they are a good pass blocking line is a bit out there too.Though, much of that comes through the questions at LT right now.

Lang had a solid year at LG last year.

Saturday should be fine for a year.

Sitton has all the talent but had a bad year last year. He is a better pass blocker than run blocker...but he can run block and many of the runs last year when they needed yards would go to his side with Wells last season.

BUlaga...solid for sure...needs to keep improving.

LT is still the big question.

You agree better Pass blocking than run though?

Good assessment overall - and yes, they are clearly better at pass blocking than run blocking. Anytime this offense needed 1-2 yards at a key moment, the o-line couldn't open a single hole. Putrid run blocking.One clarification: there is no debate about who will start at LT, provided Newhouse is healthy. Literally zero question.

 

[steelerfan1]

thanks APK and sho.

 

[sho nuff]

Good assessment overall - and yes, they are clearly better at pass blocking than run blocking. Anytime this offense needed 1-2 yards at a key moment, the o-line couldn't open a single hole. Putrid run blocking.One clarification: there is no debate about who will start at LT, provided Newhouse is healthy. Literally zero question.

Not saying there is a question who will start.Just that he is still a question mark overall. He needs to get better, and with a year of experience...he shouldBut I would love to see if a healthy Sherrod could push him for time. Will just be hard for him with now another offseason that he did not get to spend trying to get better (last year with the lockout and this year rehabbing an injury).

 

[Willink]

So i'm making things up? I live in Wisconsin and see quite a few games, besides that I will include links.

LT- Newhouse/Deitrich/Sherrod/Datko - Who's starting out here is a question mark at this point(Newhouse allowed 41 pressures in 2011 and is currently injured)...can't be a good sign for the run game. Sherrod still isn't recovered from his injury and Datko has had a horrible camp. Proof

LG- TJ Lang- Proof

C- Jeff Saturday-Good pass blocker...average run blocker or maybe worse at this point of his career(37 years old). An AFC personnel director with a long history studying Saturday viewed the player differently. "He's certainly not the player he once was," the executive said. "Starting to lose range and mobility. Not going to win with power or strength. He will struggle some with anchor. "He will call out fronts and get things lined up. But once the whistle blows, if he can't win with leverage and angles, there's going to be some limitations. He will be a short-term fix with intangibles that maybe allow him to squeeze out another year." Proof

RG- Josh Sitton - Very underrated G in the NFL. Better pass blocker than run blocker. Proof

RT- Bryan Bulaga - Solid RT with chance to be one of the better RT in the game. Only Starting OL that graded out as a better run than pass blocker.

I'll disagree with my fellow Packer fans quite drastically here. Arbitrary Bleacher Report ratings are not "proof" of run blocking acumen. The whole right side of GB's line is one of the better run blocking units in the NFL considering the Sitton-Bulaga tandem, the Center doesn't play much of a roll in run blocking as is, and TJ Lang is an infinitely better run blocker than Daryn Colledge was.

Part of the failings with how that unit has graded out is the fact that:

1. GB doesn't run that much as is given its RB staple is less than impressive.

2. Injuries to RB's have made the unit look worse than it is; Grant missed 2010 when the unit ranked 23rd in adj yards and started guys like Dimitri Nance and the visionless Brandon Jackson, and in 2011 the unit started out strongly with a bunch of consecutive 100+ yard outings at high Y/A before slowing down as the season progressed. In 2009 the unit contributed a 9th ranked performance with 1800 yards and 20 touchdowns.

But just looking at the line as is current it's run blocking is probably the best in Green Bay since 2006 or 2007 with questions about the LT position, but GB should be running behind Bulaga and Sitton anyway.

I don't know if he will reach them, but I wouldn't be surprised if Benson put up 2009 Ryan Grant numbers, assuming he comes to play with a chip on his shoulder and retains the starting job.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

So i'm making things up? I live in Wisconsin and see quite a few games, besides that I will include links.

LT- Newhouse/Deitrich/Sherrod/Datko - Who's starting out here is a question mark at this point(Newhouse allowed 41 pressures in 2011 and is currently injured)...can't be a good sign for the run game. Sherrod still isn't recovered from his injury and Datko has had a horrible camp. Proof

LG- TJ Lang- Proof

C- Jeff Saturday-Good pass blocker...average run blocker or maybe worse at this point of his career(37 years old). An AFC personnel director with a long history studying Saturday viewed the player differently. "He's certainly not the player he once was," the executive said. "Starting to lose range and mobility. Not going to win with power or strength. He will struggle some with anchor. "He will call out fronts and get things lined up. But once the whistle blows, if he can't win with leverage and angles, there's going to be some limitations. He will be a short-term fix with intangibles that maybe allow him to squeeze out another year." Proof

RG- Josh Sitton - Very underrated G in the NFL. Better pass blocker than run blocker. Proof

RT- Bryan Bulaga - Solid RT with chance to be one of the better RT in the game. Only Starting OL that graded out as a better run than pass blocker.

I'll disagree with my fellow Packer fans quite drastically here. Arbitrary Bleacher Report ratings are not "proof" of run blocking acumen. The whole right side of GB's line is one of the better run blocking units in the NFL considering the Sitton-Bulaga tandem, the Center doesn't play much of a roll in run blocking as is, and TJ Lang is an infinitely better run blocker than Daryn Colledge was.

The Bleacher Report isn't a biased fan or own someone in FF...they are a source or proof.If you honestly don't think the Center plays a roll in run blocking then that's all I need to know about football knowledge base...it's very minimal.

 

[Raider Nation]

The Bleacher Report isn't a biased fan or own someone in FF...they are a source or proof.

LOL. My 4-year-old nephew could write an article for The Bleacher Report if he wanted to.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

The Bleacher Report isn't a biased fan or own someone in FF...they are a source or proof.

LOL. My 4-year-old nephew could write an article for The Bleacher Report if he wanted to.

Says the guy posting on a message board...

 

[Willink]

The Bleacher Report isn't a biased fan or own someone in FF...they are a source or proof.

No, they are not. I know people who actually write for BR. They are not "experts". I haven't missed a Packers game (be it preseason or regular season) since mid-2006. I exhaust enough of my time and energy following this team that I trust my own opinion.

If you honestly don't think the Center plays a roll in run blocking then that's all I need to know about football knowledge base...it's very minimal.

Do you really not know how combination blocks work with the interior line? GB's guard tandem, both of whom are above-average run blockers are going to carry the load for Saturday, who isn't by any means an "awful" run blocking center either. If you want real research rather than some guy sitting as his PC typing up madden-esque ratings for lineman, read stuff like this:http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2012/word-muth-scouting-coltsI'm not much for PFF either, but:

Last year, with his offense collapsing around him, he was the lone stalwart on the Colts line (+14.9 Overall, +6.2 Pass Blocking and +5.1 Run Blocking) and graded out fifth among NFL centers, just behind Wells.

 

[Raider Nation]

The Bleacher Report isn't a biased fan or own someone in FF...they are a source or proof.

LOL. My 4-year-old nephew could write an article for The Bleacher Report if he wanted to.

Says the guy posting on a message board...

Way to entirely miss the point.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

The Bleacher Report isn't a biased fan or own someone in FF...they are a source or proof.

No, they are not. I know people who actually write for BR. They are not "experts". I haven't missed a Packers game (be it preseason or regular season) since mid-2006. I exhaust enough of my time and energy following this team that I trust my own opinion.

If you honestly don't think the Center plays a roll in run blocking then that's all I need to know about football knowledge base...it's very minimal.

Do you really not know how combination blocks work with the interior line? GB's guard tandem, both of whom are above-average run blockers are going to carry the load for Saturday, who isn't by any means an "awful" run blocking center either. If you want real research rather than some guy sitting as his PC typing up madden-esque ratings for lineman, read stuff like this:http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2012/word-muth-scouting-coltsI'm not much for PFF either, but:

Last year, with his offense collapsing around him, he was the lone stalwart on the Colts line (+14.9 Overall, +6.2 Pass Blocking and +5.1 Run Blocking) and graded out fifth among NFL centers, just behind Wells.

1) I didn't call people writing for the Bleacher Report experts. I said they weren't a biased fan/FF owner. It appears you may be a biased fan.2) I've coached college football at the highest level with some of my players making it to the NFL. So when you say that Centers don't have a roll in the run game, you're wrong. They have a huge roll in the run game. Scott Wells was your best OL the last two seasons...losing him will hurt the OL. Can Sitton return to pre-injury form? Saturday is a year older and getting weaker/slower is only a matter of father time. You expect Saturday to one on one handle Suh/Kevin Williams in the interior while Sitton/Lang reach the second level? That's not going to happen, nor is Saturday still good enough to consistently reach the second level LB's. Can it happen sometimes? Sure, but not like it did in the past and that my friend will hurt the GB running attack.

 

[Raider Nation]

I didn't call people writing for the Bleacher Report experts. I said they weren't a biased fan/FF owner.

Why can't they be?Just try typing "I was wrong." It'll all be over soon.

 

[Willink]

2) I've coached college football at the highest level with some of my players making it to the NFL. So when you say that Centers don't have a roll in the run game, you're wrong. They have a huge roll in the run game. Scott Wells was your best OL the last two seasons...losing him will hurt the OL. Can Sitton return to pre-injury form? Saturday is a year older and getting weaker/slower is only a matter of father time. You expect Saturday to one on one handle Suh/Kevin Williams in the interior while Sitton/Lang reach the second level? That's not going to happen, nor is Saturday still good enough to consistently reach the second level LB's. Can it happen sometimes? Sure, but not like it did in the past and that my friend will hurt the GB running attack.

Need to step up your reading comprehension:

doesn't play much of a role

is not the same as

you say that Centers don't have a roll in the run game

Wells also certainly wasn't the best packers OL of the last two seasons either, given Sitton easily outplayed him in 2010 and graded out better than him despite playing injured last year as well. GB doesn't face any divisional defenses with 350 lb monster tackles that would line up over Saturday and kill him in the run game anyway.I mean seriously. Did you watch Suh play run defense last year?

 

[Raider Nation]

I'm out the SP is ridiculous and doesn't deserve my time.

Agreed. The Bleacher Report deserves you more.

 

[sho nuff]

The Bleacher Report isn't a biased fan or own someone in FF...they are a source or proof.

No, they are not. I know people who actually write for BR. They are not "experts". I haven't missed a Packers game (be it preseason or regular season) since mid-2006. I exhaust enough of my time and energy following this team that I trust my own opinion.

If you honestly don't think the Center plays a roll in run blocking then that's all I need to know about football knowledge base...it's very minimal.

Do you really not know how combination blocks work with the interior line? GB's guard tandem, both of whom are above-average run blockers are going to carry the load for Saturday, who isn't by any means an "awful" run blocking center either. If you want real research rather than some guy sitting as his PC typing up madden-esque ratings for lineman, read stuff like this:http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2012/word-muth-scouting-coltsI'm not much for PFF either, but:

Last year, with his offense collapsing around him, he was the lone stalwart on the Colts line (+14.9 Overall, +6.2 Pass Blocking and +5.1 Run Blocking) and graded out fifth among NFL centers, just behind Wells.

1) I didn't call people writing for the Bleacher Report experts. I said they weren't a biased fan/FF owner. It appears you may be a biased fan.2) I've coached college football at the highest level with some of my players making it to the NFL. So when you say that Centers don't have a roll in the run game, you're wrong. They have a huge roll in the run game. Scott Wells was your best OL the last two seasons...losing him will hurt the OL. Can Sitton return to pre-injury form? Saturday is a year older and getting weaker/slower is only a matter of father time. You expect Saturday to one on one handle Suh/Kevin Williams in the interior while Sitton/Lang reach the second level? That's not going to happen, nor is Saturday still good enough to consistently reach the second level LB's. Can it happen sometimes? Sure, but not like it did in the past and that my friend will hurt the GB running attack.

Wells was their best lineman last year...I disagree he was in 2010. That would be Sitton.And the "doesn't deserve my time" line.Get the heck over yourself man.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

2) I've coached college football at the highest level with some of my players making it to the NFL. So when you say that Centers don't have a roll in the run game, you're wrong. They have a huge roll in the run game. Scott Wells was your best OL the last two seasons...losing him will hurt the OL. Can Sitton return to pre-injury form? Saturday is a year older and getting weaker/slower is only a matter of father time. You expect Saturday to one on one handle Suh/Kevin Williams in the interior while Sitton/Lang reach the second level? That's not going to happen, nor is Saturday still good enough to consistently reach the second level LB's. Can it happen sometimes? Sure, but not like it did in the past and that my friend will hurt the GB running attack.

Need to step up your reading comprehension:

doesn't play much of a role

is not the same as

you say that Centers don't have a roll in the run game

Wells also certainly wasn't the best packers OL of the last two seasons either, given Sitton easily outplayed him in 2010 and graded out better than him despite playing injured last year as well. GB doesn't face any divisional defenses with 350 lb monster tackles that would line up over Saturday and kill him in the run game anyway.I mean seriously. Did you watch Suh play run defense last year?

Ted Thompson and McCarthy have said that, if you take the past 2 seasons all together, Wells was their best lineman. In individual years, Sitton was best in 2010, Bulaga in 2011. But Wells was the best in total over those 2 years. But hey, feel free to disagree with both the coach and GM.

 

[smackdaddies]

benson has signed - league minimum, no bonus

 

[sho nuff]

benson has signed - league minimum, no bonus

Makes the signing better...completely no risk if he does not work out or has any more off the field problems.

 

[JamesTheScot]

League minimum?

Well, that sounds like Benson needed the work and GB didn't think they just had to have him. Looks like it was more of a depth signing due to the Starks injury.

 

[VaTerp]

League minimum? Well, that sounds like Benson needed the work and GB didn't think they just had to have him. Looks like it was more of a depth signing due to the Starks injury.

I think it's more of a matter that it's buyers market for veteran Rbs approaching 30.Now that he's signed, I don't think Benson's salary makes a bit of difference. In fact, at the veteran minimum Benson is probably the highest paid RB on the team as Starks and Green are on modest rookie deals.