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Cedric Cobbs (1 Viewer)

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I know, another DEN rb thread...but just wondering if Cobbs is worth having as a backup, i'd assume he'd be better than L. White or W. Lundy if he ends up with a starting job...

 
No, just another headache, heartache, backache, and stomachache, stayaway from Den RBs if you value life and enjoy the pressure that is fantasy football. You've been warned. :no:

 
If he ends up with the starting job he's a lot more valuable than a LOT of other guys. The time to pick him up is now-what you're willing to drop depends on your risk/reward tolerance.

Personally, I wouldn't drop anything other than a total scrub for the guy. And I think he's got a reasonable shot to start.

 
He never showed anything in New England.

As a guy who took him (too early) in a rookie dynasty draft when he came out, and as a Patriots fan, I was definitely watching!

 
He never showed anything in New England.

As a guy who took him (too early) in a rookie dynasty draft when he came out, and as a Patriots fan, I was definitely watching!
Priest Holmes didn't show much in Baltimore either. Denver & New England are 2 different style offenses/situations. While Cobbs may have been a poor fit, or not mentally ready to excel in NE, he may be the right fit in Denver and may have found some motivation. Maybe his attitude and desire have caught up up to his skills and potential. If everything comes together in Denver, Cobbs could easily become the next great Denver RB.
 
I drafted him as a rookie in dynasty league last year, dumped him mid/late season...have no regrets. There has to be higher upside RB's to fit on your RB roster than Cobbs. Regardless Cobbs isn't going to be a difference maker on the success of your team this season. Don't bother analyzing him.

 
He never showed anything in New England.

As a guy who took him (too early) in a rookie dynasty draft when he came out, and as a Patriots fan, I was definitely watching!
Priest Holmes didn't show much in Baltimore either. Denver & New England are 2 different style offenses/situations. While Cobbs may have been a poor fit, or not mentally ready to excel in NE, he may be the right fit in Denver and may have found some motivation. Maybe his attitude and desire have caught up up to his skills and potential. If everything comes together in Denver, Cobbs could easily become the next great Denver RB.
wth are you talking about http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1645

 
He never showed anything in New England.

As a guy who took him (too early) in a rookie dynasty draft when he came out, and as a Patriots fan, I was definitely watching!
Priest Holmes didn't show much in Baltimore either. Denver & New England are 2 different style offenses/situations. While Cobbs may have been a poor fit, or not mentally ready to excel in NE, he may be the right fit in Denver and may have found some motivation. Maybe his attitude and desire have caught up up to his skills and potential. If everything comes together in Denver, Cobbs could easily become the next great Denver RB.
wth are you talking about http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1645
Thanks for proving his point. :thumbup:
 
Cobbs showed good talent while at Arkansas. I expected a lot more out of him as a pro. I don't know if it is injury, opportunity, or whether he just doesn't want it enough anymore. To echo an earlier post, if you can drop some scrub and put Cobbs on your team it wouldn't be a bad idea. If he starts in Denver you got a starter in one of the best running offenses in the league. If he sits the first week you drop him and pick up someone else.

 
Only in DEEP leagues, leagues where more than 60 RBs are rostered. That being said, be ready to pull the trigger in more shallow leagues if either mike or tatum struggle or get hurt.

 
He never showed anything in New England.

As a guy who took him (too early) in a rookie dynasty draft when he came out, and as a Patriots fan, I was definitely watching!
Priest Holmes didn't show much in Baltimore either. Denver & New England are 2 different style offenses/situations. While Cobbs may have been a poor fit, or not mentally ready to excel in NE, he may be the right fit in Denver and may have found some motivation. Maybe his attitude and desire have caught up up to his skills and potential. If everything comes together in Denver, Cobbs could easily become the next great Denver RB.
wth are you talking about http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1645
Okay, his best year was 1998 in which he averaged 63 yards/game and had 7 TDs. He started only 6 games in 99/00 combined. Compare that to his best year in KC, 2002, in which he averaged 115 yards/game and had 21 TDs. That's what I'm talking about. Same RB, different situations, different results.
 
Not to be another Cobbs-downer, but his pre-season stats are extremely misleading.

Yes, it's true he's racked up 150+ rushing yards over the first three games, but think about this:

Week 1 - Entered the game with 10:00 left in the fourth; fourth Denver RB to see significant carries that game (Bell/Bell/Dayne).

Week 2 - Entered the game with 6:00 left in the third; fourth Denver RB to see significant carries that game that game (Bell/Bell/Nash).

Week 3 - Entered the game with 7:00 left in the third; fourth Denver RB to see significant carries that game that game (Bell/Bell; Nash and Dayne were both injured).

Three big negatives stand out to me regarding Cobbs.

1. He is clearly being used as the third RB (at best) behind the two Bells so far this pre-season.

2. Look at the game logs; hardely a single defensive player that made a tackle while he was in the game will see any real time this season. He ain't playing backups... he's putting up his numbers against fringe players.

3. He was signed last pre-season and spent the entire year on the Bronco's pratice squad. Not saying he won't make the roster, or even contribute; but last season, he couldn't beat out Anderson Bell or Dayne.

 
Only in DEEP leagues, leagues where more than 60 RBs are rostered. That being said, be ready to pull the trigger in more shallow leagues if either mike or tatum struggle or get hurt.
You think it'll be Bell/Bell all year, barring injury, Bloom?
I don't feel that strong about it, but I see no reason to assume otherwise at this point. One exception would be if Mike Bell struggles with short yardage running and Dayne's toe gets better.
 
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No, just another headache, heartache, backache, and stomachache, stayaway from Den RBs if you value life and enjoy the pressure that is fantasy football. You've been warned. :no:
this reply is ironic for someone with this in their sig:
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain..."
 
He never showed anything in New England.

As a guy who took him (too early) in a rookie dynasty draft when he came out, and as a Patriots fan, I was definitely watching!
Priest Holmes didn't show much in Baltimore either. Denver & New England are 2 different style offenses/situations. While Cobbs may have been a poor fit, or not mentally ready to excel in NE, he may be the right fit in Denver and may have found some motivation. Maybe his attitude and desire have caught up up to his skills and potential. If everything comes together in Denver, Cobbs could easily become the next great Denver RB.
wth are you talking about http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1645
Okay, his best year was 1998 in which he averaged 63 yards/game and had 7 TDs. He started only 6 games in 99/00 combined. Compare that to his best year in KC, 2002, in which he averaged 115 yards/game and had 21 TDs. That's what I'm talking about. Same RB, different situations, different results.
That's one of the most absurd comparisons I've ever seen. Just what did he not show in Baltimore? He rushed for 1000 yards the only season he was given a chance. He also had a higher yards per carry in Baltimore than he did in KC. Holmes showed a lot in Baltimore.
 
DENVER — This is the situation that gets the most attention, but perhaps it shouldn’t be that way. I’m not so sure any of the Denver backs will do enough this season to be a week-in, week-out starter for fantasy teams. Tatum Bell looks to be the best running back on the roster, yet for whatever reason, Mike Shanahan doesn’t like using Bell in a No. 1 role. But T. Bell should get anywhere from about 35 percent to 60 percent of Denver’s carries. The rest are expected to go to undrafted rookie Mike Bell — or at least that’s how it appears. Don’t forget that Shanahan seemed ready to go with Quentin Griffin as his starter two years ago — until Griffin started fumbling and wound up at the end of the bench. Mike Bell had his share of fumbles during his college career at the University of Arizona, so be careful. M. Bell could end up with 60 percent of Denver’s carries and a bunch of TDs, or he could wind up with bupkis. Ron Dayne and Cedric Cobbs are also in the picture, although there’s a chance that one of them won’t survive the final roster cutdown. I think Cobbs has much more sleeper potential than Dayne and could conceivably seize the role currently occupied by Mike Bell. The only safe bet here is Tatum Bell, as long as you don’t fool yourself into believing that he might become a workhorse type who gets 20-plus carries every week. It ain’t gonna happen

By Pat Fitzmaurice

Aug. 30, 2006

 
The rest are expected to go to undrafted rookie Mike Bell — or at least that’s how it appears. Don’t forget that Shanahan seemed ready to go with Quentin Griffin as his starter two years ago — until Griffin started fumbling and wound up at the end of the bench. By Pat Fitzmaurice Aug. 30, 2006
As I recall, injuries and Reuben Droughns had a lot to do with Griffin's demise as well.
 
No, just another headache, heartache, backache, and stomachache, stayaway from Den RBs if you value life and enjoy the pressure that is fantasy football. You've been warned. :no:
this reply is ironic for someone with this in their sig:
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain..."
So, what does my sig have to do with the chaos that is the Denver's backfield? Not selecting a RB in the Denver system is not fear, it's wisdom. There's a difference.
 
No, just another headache, heartache, backache, and stomachache, stayaway from Den RBs if you value life and enjoy the pressure that is fantasy football. You've been warned. :no:
this reply is ironic for someone with this in their sig:
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain..."
So, what does my sig have to do with the chaos that is the Denver's backfield? Not selecting a RB in the Denver system is not fear, it's wisdom. There's a difference.
it's not wise to blatantly disregard one of the top rushing attacks in the NFL. Don't be afraid to do a little research and make a pick. There IS value there.
 
I think of all people worth rostering in the Denver backfield.... Nash, Cobbs, and Dayne are much more of a value play than Bell and Bell.

For me in these situations I always like to grab the a piece or two of the denver backfield if they could be had for dirt cheap. Nash, Cobbs, and Dayne could be had in late rounds over a backup kicker, defense, or 5th WR.

So far it has worked for me during every Denver backifeild situation. Grabbed Portis in his rookie year late, missed out on Droughns but he was on the WW, and last year picked up Mike Anderson late in the draft.

In each case they were better than the players at another position and were serviceble as RB#1 or bye week RBs.

So in short... yes Cibbs is worth a spot IMO.

 
Here are a list of Blips from ESPN on Cobbs since April of his rookie year i believe. (they dont list years)

Aug. 30

News Cobbs, having worked his way into the starting running back race by leading the league in preseason rushing yards, will play Thursday night against Arizona, the Denver Post reports.

Despite the fact that the Broncos plan to rest most of their starters, Mike Bell, Tatum Bell and Cobbs should all see significant playing time Thursday. The performance of all three could go a long way in determining who wins the job, or if the Broncos go with a rotation similar to last year with Mike Anderson and Tatum Bell. The Cardinals plan to play their starters for one quarter, so it will be interesting to see if Cobbs gets some carries early to see how he responds against a first-team defense. Thus far, he has shredded second-and third-team defenses for 161 yards in three games.

Aug. 28

News Cobbs rushed for 54 yards on seven carries Sunday against Houston, and scored on a 26-yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter.

Cobbs played in the fourth quarter, mainly against reserve defensive players, many of whom will soon be cut. Still, Cobbs was able to take advantage of the situation and put together another solid effort. He now leads the Broncos with 161 rushing yards in three preseason games, and looks to be making a strong push to make the Broncos roster, possibly even ahead of Ron Dayne in the No. 3 spot.

Aug. 27

News With Ron Dayne and Damien Nash expected to miss Sunday night's game, Cobbs should see more action, the Denver Post reports.

Mike Bell and Tatum Bell will likely handle the bulk of the carries through the first three quarters, but Cobbs should have the fourth quarter pretty much to himself. With a strong performance in the last two preseason games, Cobbs has a shot to win the third running back job ahead of Dayne and Nash.

Aug. 20

News Cobbs rushed 10 times for 65 yards in Saturday's game against the Titans.

It was a solid effort for Cobbs who is fighting Damien Nash for the Broncos' fourth and final halfback spot. Nash had a good night of his own, however, so its tough to say who might win this battle.

Aug. 3

News Cobbs has been practicing as the Broncos' fourth running back, behind undrafted rookie free agent Mike Bell, the Denver Post reports.

Everybody has been impressed by Bell, so it's beginning to look like it may be a challenge for Cobbs to make the Broncos' roster.

Jul. 7

News Cobbs, who spent the 2005 season on Denver's practice squad after being released by the Patriots, is hopeful he can resurrect his career with the Broncos, the Denver Post reports.

"I always knew for a fact that I had the talent to come out and be a star in the NFL," Cobbs told the Post. "But like they say, talent isn't everything. So, I want to put everything mentally together and do everything that they ask me to do to become the best player that I can be." Cobbs is third on the depth chart behind Ron Dayne and Tatum Bell, but he has one major thing on his side; coach Mike Shanahan enjoys what the former Arkansas star brings to the table. "Cedric is a guy that we felt very highly of coming out of Arkansas. We liked his running style," Shanahan told the Post. "We felt very fortunate to get him on our football team when he was released. Now, he's competing for the starting jobs." Should Cobbs continue to impress the coaching staff, he's worthy of keeping a close eye on given the Denver offensive system, which churns out running backs like no other team in the league.

Aug. 29

News The Patriots released Cobbs on Monday, the team's official site reports.

Many thought that Cobbs, who was drafted by the Patriots in the fourth round (128th overall) of the 2004 NFL Draft, was being groomed as a possible alternative to Corey Dillon, but clearly his potential as a ball carrier was outweighed by his inability to refine the other aspects of his game. He'll try to catch on elsewhere as a depth guy.

Aug. 27

News Making his preseason debut in Friday's preseason game, Cobbs fumbled his first carry, the Boston Herald reports. The second-year back ended up carrying the ball three times for nine yards in the Patriots' win over the Packers.

So far Cobbs has not distinguished himself in game conditions, but the Patriots like his ability as a ball carrier and remain hopeful that he can emerge as a reliable every-down option in the event that Corey Dillon suffers an injury.

Aug. 23

News Cobbs (undisclosed injury), who has yet to play in a preseason game, returned to practice on Monday, the Boston Herald reports.

Cobbs, who is trying to cement his status as a viable option should Corey Dillon go down, is expected to make his preseason debut Friday. The second-year back, who missed all of his rookie training camp and preseason in 2004, felt his leg "tightening up" during drills prior to the exhibition opener two weeks ago. "I wasn't able to run full speed, so we let the leg get back up to 100 percent and now I'm ready to go," Cobbs said.

Aug. 18

Questionable Cobbs (undisclosed injury) is not expected to play in Thursday's preseason game against the Saints, the Boston Globe reports.

His absence opens the door for more action for Kory Chapman, who impressed in second-half duty last week. Cobbs will need to get back out on the field soon in order to establish that he is ready for prime time should starter Corey Dillon go down.

Aug. 17

Probable Cobbs (undisclosed injury) missed practice on Tuesday and his status for Thursday's preseason game is questionable, the Boston Herald reports.

Cobbs, who did not play in last Friday's preseason opener against the Bengals, will need to get back in the mix soon if he is to prove to the team that he is a viable option in the event of a Corey Dillon injury.

Aug. 13

Probable Cobbs (undisclosed) did not play in Friday's preseason opener against the Bengals.

It had been expected that Cobbs would have a chance to showcase what coaches are hoping will be a more well-rounded skillset than he displayed last season. What, if any injury, is troubling Cobbs is unclear, though coach Bill Belichick did provide the following cryptic clue. "We held many guys out. I think many of our [injured] guys are in that day-to-day category. There is not a whole lot to talk about there." Even if there was, we doubt that the coach would want to talk about it anyway. Either way, Cobbs needs to get out there in game conditions if he is to cement his role as a suitable substitute should Corey Dillon get injured.

Aug. 12

News During the Patriots' pre-camp testing, Cobbs' 40-inch vertical jump was the best on the team, the Boston Herald reports.

Not that too much stock should be put in running backs' jumping ability, though it would be interesting to see if Cobbs' vaulting ability could translate into diving touchdown scores down the road.

Aug. 10

News Cobbs, who struggled in the passing game last season, has improved that aspect of his game, the Providence Journal reports.

"It's better than what it was," coach Bill Belichick said. "He's had a lot more experience now, having been in our system for a year and going through meetings in the offseason, passing camps and mini-camp. That certainly helped. He doesn't have the same type of experience as Kevin Faulk or somebody like that, there's no question about it. How that stacks up against NFL competition, that is what we'll have to see." Look for Cobbs to see plenty of action during the exhibition season as the Pats are eager to evaluate whether the second-year back is ready to assume a more prominent role, namely that of being the player they turn to first if Corey Dillon goes down.

Aug. 7

News Cobbs has gotten off to a solid start at the Patriots' training camp, participating in all seven days and 11 practices over the first week, the Boston Herald reports.

Cobbs is in excellent shape and reportedly has shown good energy on the field. Last year, a hamstring injury early in camp landed him on the physically unable to perform list and he wound up playing only four games, rushing just 22 times for 50 yards (2.3-yard average). The Patriots like Cobbs' ball-carrying ability and if the second-year pro can refine the other aspects of his game, he might be the guy the team calls on if Corey Dillon goes down. Kevin Faulk is ahead of Cobbs on the depth chart, but the team prefers to deploy him as third-down/change-of-pace back, rather than an every-down workhorse.

Jul. 26

News Cobbs has a chance to emerge as Corey Dillon's top backup if he can demonstrate that he has progressed as a receiver and a blocker, the Boston Herald reports.

Kevin Faulk will provide the Patriots with a change of pace back, but the 6-foot, 225-pound Cobbs, a between the tackles runner, is more ideally suited to take over as the workhorse should Dillon go down. In leagues with plenty of bench space, those who draft Dillon may want to scoop Cobbs up late.

Jul. 15

News Cobbs will compete with Kory Chapman and rookie free agents Earl Charles and DeCori Birmingham for a role in the Patriots' offense behind starter Corey Dillon and change-of-pace back Kevin Faulk, the The Patriots'Official Site reports.

Cobbs, who totaled 22 carries for 50 yards (2.3 avg.) in a limited role with the team last season, would appear to have the edge going into camp, but he can't take anything for granted. In an effort to avoid the injuries which plagued him throughout his rookie campaign, the 6-0, 225-pound bruiser has worked the entire offseason to get himself into prime NFL playing shape. Cobbs must show a better grasp of the New England offense and improve on his pass protection skills in order gain the confidence of his teammates and coaches. If he succeeds -- and he has the talent to do so -- look for Cobbs to join Faulk in spelling Dillon throughout the season.

May. 5

News Cobbs said that he is focusing on making sure that he is in NFL shape this spring, something he wasn't close to at the start of training camp last July, when he injured his hamstring and then landed on the Physically Unable to Perform list, the Boston Herald reports.

"The first thing is making sure that my body is as close to 100 percent as it can possibly be so I'm able to go all out from the first day," said Cobbs, who gained 50 yards on 22 carries last season. "Last year I hurt my hamstring right off the top. I guess I did (underestimate) the speed and the pace of this level. Now I understand." With a strong camp, Cobbs has a chance to put himself in a position for an expanded role this season, spelling starter Corey Dillon. In fact, if Dillon were to go down with an injury, the team may even consider turning to Cobbs, rather than Kevin Faulk, who is best deployed as a third-down back.

Jan. 2

News Cobbs carried five times for 20 yards in Sunday's win over the 49ers.

The Patriots stuck with their starters longer than expected so Cobbs didn't see a heavy workload. With a strong performance in training camp next year, the rookie's role could expand in 2005.

Jan. 1

News With Kevin Faulk and Patrick Pass dinged up and Corey Dillon not expected to carry a full workload, Cobbs figures to see an expanded workload in Sunday's season finale against the 49ers.

Cobbs is one of a handful of lesser known backs around the league who will have a chance to strut their stuff while key starters are limited. As long as Dillon is around, Cobbs won't have much fantasy value, but his role could expand next year to the point where he could be the back that the team would turn to first if Dillon was felled by an injury.

Dec. 5

News Cobbs carried 16 times for 29 yards in Sunday's 42-15 win over the Browns.

With Corey Dillon banged up and the Pats jumping out to a big lead, Cobbs saw his most significant action of the season.

Nov. 1

News Cobbs, who was activated off the physically unable to perform list before Week 8's contest, entered the game Sunday for the first time in the second quarter and finished with one carry for 1 yard, the Boston Herald reports.

Keep an eye on Corey Dillon's status as the week rolls along. Cobbs, whose running style has been compared to Dillon's, will likely remain a depth guy for the Pats, but his role could expand if Dillon is forced to miss additional action.

Oct. 31

News Cobbs (leg) was activated for Sunday's game against the Steelers.

With Corey Dillon out, it's not out of the question that Cobbs could see some touches, but it's too early to consider plugging him into your lineup.

Oct. 28

Out Cobbs (leg) practiced for the first time this year on Wednesday, the Boston Herald reports.

The Patriots now have three weeks to activate Cobbs off of the physically unable to perform list.

Oct. 9

Out Cobbs, who was placed on the physically unable to perform list at the start of the season, could be available for the Patriots' game against the Jets Oct. 24 , the Boston Globe reports.

Barring a slew of injuries between now and then, Cobbs will be a depth guy for the Pats, albeit one with some upside.

Sep. 5

Questionable Cobbs (leg) was placed on the physically unable to perform (PUP) list by the Patriots on Sunday, the team's official site reports.

The earliest we'll see Cobbs in action is Week Seven.

Sep. 5

Questionable Cobbs (leg), who has not practiced all preseason, could resume practicing this week, according to coach Bill Belichick, the Boston Herald reports.

Whether Cobbs will start the season on the active roster or on the PUP list has yet to be determined. What does seem certain though is that he won't be making any fantasy impact, at least early on.

Aug. 25

Questionable Cobbs (leg), who hasn't practiced yet in training camp, may start the season on the Patriots' reserve-PUP list, which would knock him out the first six weeks of the year, the Boston Herald reports.

At this point, Cobbs would have to get back out there in a hurry for the team to have him in uniform for opening day. We still think he has the potential to make an impact down the road, but he's not someone who is going to help your fantasy team in the short-term.

Aug. 17

Questionable Cobbs (leg) still hasn't practiced with the Patriots, but he continues to look good running on the sidelines, the Boston Herald reports.

A return to action could come soon for the rookie. As time goes on, it will be difficult for Cobbs to claim a significant role in the offense, at least early on, but the team likes his upside and he figures to make the cut.

Aug. 1

Questionable Cobbs, who signed with Patriots Friday, has been placed on the active-PUP list with a leg injury, the Boston Globe reports.

Coach Bill Belichick didn't get specific about Cobbs' leg injury but indicated hopefully the running back would be able to join his teammates in the near future. "As soon as he's ready, he'll be out there, and we're looking forward to having him on the field," said Belichick.

Jul. 30

News The Patriots signed Cobbs on Friday, the team's official site reports.

Terms were not disclosed. Cobbs, who was drafted by the Patriots in the fifth round of the 2004 NFL draft (128th overall), starts the season behind both Corey Dillon and Kevin Faulk on the team's depth chart. His all-around game needs some polish, but in time he could develop into solid NFL ball-carrier who could replace Dillon down the road.

Jul. 29

News Cobbs remained unsigned as the Patriots opened up their training camp on Thursday, the team's official site reports.

Referring to his unsigned draft picks, coach Bill Belichick said, "it can be close and take a month or it could be miles apart and get done in an hour. When both sides agree, there will be a contract. I don't think there is any set formula [on how not being here affects the player]. But I don't think it helps anybody." Cobbs, who proved his skills as a ball-carrier in college, would be best served getting to camp as soon as possible so that he can work on his all-around game.

Jul. 9

News After missing most of the team's minicamp in early June with a leg injury, the now-healthy Cobbs is intent on arriving in training camp as prepared as possible, the Patriots' official site reports.

"As far as learning the plays it may have slowed me a little bit," Cobbs said of being sidelined for mini camp. "But I know my assignments, it's just a matter of practicing and going through the motions to really know it by heart. I am lacking experience but as far as my assignments, I know them. I just need to get into the groove." Few question Cobbs' credentails as a ball-carrier, but at the pro level he needs to get up to speed, both in terms of catching the ball and pass protection.

May. 2

News Cobbs had several dropped passes during Friday's minicamp workout and later admitted to having trouble with the playbook, the Boston Herald reports.

The Patriots aren't worried about Cobbs' ability to run the ball, but coming off a season where he had only eight catches, he'll need to make some adjustments to fit into Charlie Weis' offense. "I don't think there's a question about his running skills," coach Bill Belichick said. "He ran for more yards in high school than any other back in the history of Arkansas...and he had a lot of production in college, but in the passing game, he has less background in that. So he's going to have to work on that. How quickly he picks that up and how naturally that comes to him, I don't know." As long as Corey Dillon is healthy, the Patriots can afford to bring Cobbs along slowly.

Apr. 27

News Cobbs' perceived character issues may have caused him to slip in this past weekend's draft, but both his most recent as well as his present coach have good things to say about him, the Providence Journal reports.

As a junior, Cobbs was arrested for drunken driving and possession of marijuana, but he stayed focused and out of trouble as a senior, running for 1,329 yards and 10 touchdowns on 227 carries. Arkansas head coach Houston Nutt said, "I've just been so pleased with him. He was a true freshman MVP in the Cotton Bowl, everybody had him written up to be a first-round pick, he was on top of every magazine. He went from there to being injured and then underneath the radar screen where nobody even recognized his name anymore. So what you love is how he's approached his senior year with great dedication and commitment, a great work ethic, great attitude and he's running extremely hard right now. I'm just real proud of him." Patriots coach Bill Belichick added, "Cedric has a lot of talent. We felt he was real good value there (128th pick). He's an explosive guy who can run with power. If you saw him run against Alabama, he pretty much carried the team in that game."

Apr. 25

News The Patriots selected Cobbs with the 128th pick overall in the 2004 NFL draft.

Ironically, the back that Cobbs is often compared to is Corey Dillon, who the Patriots recently acquired in a trade with the Bengals. In Cobbs, New England gets a player that they can bring in slowly. He hasn't run well against the stop-watch and has had character issues in the past, but he has upside and is a nice roll of the dice for the Patriots, whose top offsesaon priority was to upgrade their running attack.

 
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So what I'm really saying by quoting all that is, that I think it's a ploy to motivate Cedric Cobbs. I think it's always been a ploy to motivate Cedric Cobbs. Skeletor has foresight.

 
He never showed anything in New England.

As a guy who took him (too early) in a rookie dynasty draft when he came out, and as a Patriots fan, I was definitely watching!
Priest Holmes didn't show much in Baltimore either. Denver & New England are 2 different style offenses/situations. While Cobbs may have been a poor fit, or not mentally ready to excel in NE, he may be the right fit in Denver and may have found some motivation. Maybe his attitude and desire have caught up up to his skills and potential. If everything comes together in Denver, Cobbs could easily become the next great Denver RB.
wth are you talking about http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1645
Okay, his best year was 1998 in which he averaged 63 yards/game and had 7 TDs. He started only 6 games in 99/00 combined. Compare that to his best year in KC, 2002, in which he averaged 115 yards/game and had 21 TDs. That's what I'm talking about. Same RB, different situations, different results.
That's one of the most absurd comparisons I've ever seen. Just what did he not show in Baltimore? He rushed for 1000 yards the only season he was given a chance. He also had a higher yards per carry in Baltimore than he did in KC. Holmes showed a lot in Baltimore.
Are you just trying to save face, or did you not watch Priest play in Balty? He was a dead dud who was salvaged in KC to put himself in nearly Hall of Fame contention.
 
No, just another headache, heartache, backache, and stomachache, stayaway from Den RBs if you value life and enjoy the pressure that is fantasy football. You've been warned. :no:
this reply is ironic for someone with this in their sig:
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain..."
So, what does my sig have to do with the chaos that is the Denver's backfield? Not selecting a RB in the Denver system is not fear, it's wisdom. There's a difference.
it's not wise to blatantly disregard one of the top rushing attacks in the NFL. Don't be afraid to do a little research and make a pick. There IS value there.
So, what does my sig have to do with the chaos that is the Denver backfield? Research? There is NO value there, until Shanny declare a starter.I don't need research when the chaos is seen so clearly.#1. Shanny can't be trusted.#2. Since the departure of Portis, a RB has yet to start an entire season.#3. The only backfield worse or equal to the Denver's chaotic backfield was the Vikes and they have atleast changed coaches with a different mind set and have actually declare a starter, yes they've declared a starter.So, please enlighten me with your wisdom and tell me what your research has shown you as it pertains to Denver's backfield today. Tomorrow they'll draft another runningback and people will be posting another thread like this trying to find value when there really isn't any.
 
He never showed anything in New England.

As a guy who took him (too early) in a rookie dynasty draft when he came out, and as a Patriots fan, I was definitely watching!
Priest Holmes didn't show much in Baltimore either. Denver & New England are 2 different style offenses/situations. While Cobbs may have been a poor fit, or not mentally ready to excel in NE, he may be the right fit in Denver and may have found some motivation. Maybe his attitude and desire have caught up up to his skills and potential. If everything comes together in Denver, Cobbs could easily become the next great Denver RB.
wth are you talking about http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1645
Okay, his best year was 1998 in which he averaged 63 yards/game and had 7 TDs. He started only 6 games in 99/00 combined. Compare that to his best year in KC, 2002, in which he averaged 115 yards/game and had 21 TDs. That's what I'm talking about. Same RB, different situations, different results.
That's one of the most absurd comparisons I've ever seen. Just what did he not show in Baltimore? He rushed for 1000 yards the only season he was given a chance. He also had a higher yards per carry in Baltimore than he did in KC. Holmes showed a lot in Baltimore.
:no: 400 of those yards (and 4 of his 7 TD's) coming in the two games that he played against the dismal Bengals.

The truth is that his emergence with KC as not just a secure starter but as an elite all-purpose back was one of the more surprising developments of the last 5 years or so. Do you really think that Baltimore would have let him depart as easily as they did if they knew what he would become?

 
I also saw a list. It was pretty interesting. Shanny has started 5 rookies since 1995. Only Quentin Griffin has failed to crack 1000 yards his rookie season.

 
Hijack:

Priesty showed he was a good RB in Balt.

I think the Ravens underestimated his talent level a bit, but his style didn't really fit what they wanyted to do on offense. When he came to KC, he played in a system which suited his style and behind a great line.

To compare Priest Holmes to Cedric Cobbs is ridiculous.

Preist Holmes was good back in Bal, while Cobbs sucked for NE.

 
Hijack:Priesty showed he was a good RB in Balt.I think the Ravens underestimated his talent level a bit, but his style didn't really fit what they wanyted to do on offense. When he came to KC, he played in a system which suited his style and behind a great line.To compare Priest Holmes to Cedric Cobbs is ridiculous.Preist Holmes was good back in Bal, while Cobbs sucked for NE.
Cobbs had 22 carries for New England. Is that a good sample size to say he sucked? He played in 3 games, in his Rookie year. And that's it. He went 22/50 with a 2.3 avg. And then he was hurt.
 
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Brock Middlebrook said:
Hijack:Priesty showed he was a good RB in Balt.I think the Ravens underestimated his talent level a bit, but his style didn't really fit what they wanyted to do on offense. When he came to KC, he played in a system which suited his style and behind a great line.To compare Priest Holmes to Cedric Cobbs is ridiculous.Preist Holmes was good back in Bal, while Cobbs sucked for NE.
Cobbs had 22 carries for New England. Is that a good sample size to say he sucked? He played in 3 games, in his Rookie year. And that's it. He went 22/50 with a 2.3 avg. And then he was hurt.
look at who NE had at RB -- they still cut him. I think BB thought he sucked in NE too.
 

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