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Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
TRADE HIM NOW!! OMG.
madviking10
Footballguy
I jsut saw a commercial for Madden with him and Culpepper in it. 
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Do you know how to find out?Go to NFL.com and click "Scores" near the top.Find the Bengals game. Click "Full Play-by-Play."Use your web browser's search and enter "C.Johnson."You will get only this:1-10-GB45 (10:08) C.Palmer pass incomplete short left to C.Johnson [K.Allen].There. That wasn't very hard. You're welcome.
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aldelgreco
Footballguy
I say stick him in now. It's the third Q, but he's been out for a while and needs to get some reps. He needs to put up some big numbers so he'll stay as everyone's WR3/4. What the #### is he thinking?
Johnson owners are screwed.
trade him.
Johnson owners are screwed.
trade him.
The fact of the matter is that Cincy has several red-zone options including the TE's, tall WR's in Housh and Henry, and the FB and or Perry if healthy. CJ is no longer a top red-zone threat. He'll get his #'s, probably comperable to the last couple of seasons, but IMHO, he has peaked as a fantasy WR. He probably doesn't have the upside of the other WR's in the top tier.
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
I just traded CJ for Lundy in my PPR league. 
Brewdude
Footballguy
You gave up CJ for Lundy and this is a move you are toasting yourself for?I just traded CJ for Lundy in my PPR league.
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
Scroll up, CJ isn't a red zone target anymore so I made the shark move.You gave up CJ for Lundy and this is a move you are toasting yourself for?I just traded CJ for Lundy in my PPR league.
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
Scroll up, CJ isn't a red zone target anymore so I made the shark move.You gave up CJ for Lundy and this is a move you are toasting yourself for?I just traded CJ for Lundy in my PPR league.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
When it comes to the two or three things in life I'm capable of doing, I'm always happy to help.2banalias said:Couch Potato said:
Couch Potato
Footballguy
My explanation is simpler. If he's no longer going to be allowed any worthwhile end zone celebrating, he's not going to bother scoring. Ain't no good anymore in the No Fun League.agent 86 said:
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
TJ got plenty of looks and looked great with his opportunities. I think he was good last year, but is really on his way to being a legit 1a to Chad's 1 which will help Chad see less double coverage.
Furthermore, Carson's health really is a brightspot, Chad will be fine and given Smith's health question marks, I think he's the quill as far as fantasy WRs.
Furthermore, Carson's health really is a brightspot, Chad will be fine and given Smith's health question marks, I think he's the quill as far as fantasy WRs.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
I wonder how many people here realize that Chad and Housh were the starting WRs at the same time at Oregon State.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Plenty of us.
snitwitch
Footballguy
Damn I'd like to pull something like this off, but I already own Lundy.Maybe Musa Smith is available?Scroll up, CJ isn't a red zone target anymore so I made the shark move.You gave up CJ for Lundy and this is a move you are toasting yourself for?I just traded CJ for Lundy in my PPR league.
Chad Johnson also played with Steve Smiff in Junior College.Anyway, what I really thinks is getting lost in the shuffle here is that Johnson was lining up against Al Harris. Al Harris is probably the most drastically underrated CB in the entire NFL right now. If I had to pick one CB to play for my team, it'd be Champ Bailey. If I had to pick a second, it'd be Al Harris. He's probably the best man in coverage in the entire NFL. He might just be the last true "shutdown" corner around. I think he's even better in coverage than Bailey, although Bailey is much better in run support and has a much bigger penchant for the big play.I didn't see the game tonight, but I strongly suspect that Palmer just found it easier to go to whoever WASN'T covered by Harris.
Big Score
Footballguy
Packers didn't defend CJ man to man. Harris had help.
Big Score
Footballguy
Wow! You raped the other guy, didn't you Noahs Troopers? Here's to your shark moveScroll up, CJ isn't a red zone target anymore so I made the shark move.You gave up CJ for Lundy and this is a move you are toasting yourself for?I just traded CJ for Lundy in my PPR league.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Keys Myaths said:
This guy is a scab. I'll trade for him in leagues I need a 4th WR and that's it. 
zamboni
Footballguy
Great point - glad someone finally brought it up.
zenzephyros
Footballguy
That is like saying that Alexander is no longer a TD threat. You need to get your head examined, man.agent 86 said:
Todem
Footballguy
I just traded CJ for Lundy in my PPR league.
awful trade man, just awful.I like Lundy and he may prove to be a sneaky RB 2 this year but to trade a top 3 WR. Sorry that was a guppie move. CJ commands much more value than that. :X
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Look it up buddy: 6 catches and -0- TD's in the red zone last year. Anyone who's owned CJ the last couple of seasons can tell you that he's been used mostly as a decoy in the red zone lately. As long as Cincy continues to have success, I can't see any reason why that should change.
Shooter McGavin
Down the middle
The Shark Pool -- #1 for unintentional comedy. :whoosh:I just traded CJ for Lundy in my PPR league.
Gold Plated Nails
Footballguy
This thread is great. It needs some Joe T though to make it better.
Big Score
Footballguy
Wonder if that's because Green Bay's defensive game plan was to roll all their coverage on CJ and shut him down?When TJ burned them repeatedly, I expected McCarthy to start making defensive adjustments, but they never came. You won't see that come the regular season.
incubus0
Footballguy
You guys are missing the obvious point here. TJ took that NFL fantasy draft commercial personally, so did the Bengals coaching staff, they wanted to show that not only dorks should be drafting TJ Whosyourmomma. Chad Johnson even referenced it in the team introductions. Fantasy football has become so important to the league that everyone is changing things around to focus on what makes players marketable, and having 2 tier 1 WRs on one team is a big boast in commercial revenue for them. And to anyone that is still reading this and thinking that I am at all serious, and even worse agree with what I just pulled out of my ######, take a break, man, you've been studying to hard.
Todem
Footballguy
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
WampusCat43
Footballguy
Note that the Bengals got 48 without completing a pass to CJ. GB made the conscious decision to take him out of the game, and they got torched for it. CJ will get his eventually.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Self-deprication shtick is taken. Knock it off!!When it comes to the two or three things in life I'm capable of doing,2banalias said:Couch Potato said:
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Not until I'm done spooning him.
Not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying drafting him as the #1 WR or maybe even #2 might be a setup for a letdown. TJ looks like he could be an even bigger part of the offense this year. Why is that so funny?Obviously TJ has the talent, so if defenses are going to roll their coverage to Johnson's side, why wouldn't Palmer look TJ's way more often? Seems like it makes sense to me.I think I'd rather have Smith or Holt personally. I'm certainly not saying he should drop out of the top 5.It's all about value right now.
IM666
Footballguy
Harris >>> Woodson
I agree with your assessment. Johnson still has elite talent, no question, and he'll still likely be a top receiver. But, he brings so much attention to himself that defensive coordinators and defensive backs are going to focus on him all year. TJ Housh has improved his game and is a legitimate number 2 receiver, so he's likely to benefit from all this attention being paid to Johnson. And Palmer certainly has the skills to utilize multiple receivers. I'm thinking I may pass on Johnson and pick up Housh later as he represents a lot more value at their respective ADPs. TJ was already getting more red zone looks last year, if you look at the Red Zone stats. Whether they use Johnson as a decoy, or he just doesn't get as open in the red zone with the number 1 DB on him, TJ seems like he may be the first option in the red zone. I had Johnson last year, and I was happy with his results, but I kept seeing TJ put up good numbers for one on my league mates and I couldn't help but remember that he came at a much cheaper price.Not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying drafting him as the #1 WR or maybe even #2 might be a setup for a letdown. TJ looks like he could be an even bigger part of the offense this year. Why is that so funny?Obviously TJ has the talent, so if defenses are going to roll their coverage to Johnson's side, why wouldn't Palmer look TJ's way more often? Seems like it makes sense to me.I think I'd rather have Smith or Holt personally. I'm certainly not saying he should drop out of the top 5.It's all about value right now.
Thank you. Finally somebody who understands.I agree with your assessment. Johnson still has elite talent, no question, and he'll still likely be a top receiver. But, he brings so much attention to himself that defensive coordinators and defensive backs are going to focus on him all year. TJ Housh has improved his game and is a legitimate number 2 receiver, so he's likely to benefit from all this attention being paid to Johnson. And Palmer certainly has the skills to utilize multiple receivers. I'm thinking I may pass on Johnson and pick up Housh later as he represents a lot more value at their respective ADPs. TJ was already getting more red zone looks last year, if you look at the Red Zone stats. Whether they use Johnson as a decoy, or he just doesn't get as open in the red zone with the number 1 DB on him, TJ seems like he may be the first option in the red zone. I had Johnson last year, and I was happy with his results, but I kept seeing TJ put up good numbers for one on my league mates and I couldn't help but remember that he came at a much cheaper price.Not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying drafting him as the #1 WR or maybe even #2 might be a setup for a letdown. TJ looks like he could be an even bigger part of the offense this year. Why is that so funny?Obviously TJ has the talent, so if defenses are going to roll their coverage to Johnson's side, why wouldn't Palmer look TJ's way more often? Seems like it makes sense to me.I think I'd rather have Smith or Holt personally. I'm certainly not saying he should drop out of the top 5.It's all about value right now.
code
Footballguy
I just traded CJ for Lundy in my PPR league.
FBGirl79
Footballguy
I agree with your assessment. Johnson still has elite talent, no question, and he'll still likely be a top receiver. But, he brings so much attention to himself that defensive coordinators and defensive backs are going to focus on him all year. TJ Housh has improved his game and is a legitimate number 2 receiver, so he's likely to benefit from all this attention being paid to Johnson. And Palmer certainly has the skills to utilize multiple receivers. I'm thinking I may pass on Johnson and pick up Housh later as he represents a lot more value at their respective ADPs. TJ was already getting more red zone looks last year, if you look at the Red Zone stats. Whether they use Johnson as a decoy, or he just doesn't get as open in the red zone with the number 1 DB on him, TJ seems like he may be the first option in the red zone. I had Johnson last year, and I was happy with his results, but I kept seeing TJ put up good numbers for one on my league mates and I couldn't help but remember that he came at a much cheaper price.Not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying drafting him as the #1 WR or maybe even #2 might be a setup for a letdown. TJ looks like he could be an even bigger part of the offense this year. Why is that so funny?Obviously TJ has the talent, so if defenses are going to roll their coverage to Johnson's side, why wouldn't Palmer look TJ's way more often? Seems like it makes sense to me.I think I'd rather have Smith or Holt personally. I'm certainly not saying he should drop out of the top 5.It's all about value right now.
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
The chad benefits from whoseyourmamma's emergence. The chad knows that defenses will start to forget about him and then the chad will catch two 50+ yard touchdowns.
The chad knows.
The chad knows.
