benson_will_lead_the_way
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Chan Gailey will be introduced today as head coach.
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Chan Gailey Bills New HC (1 Viewer)
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Chaka
Footballguy
Many people felt the same way about Belichick before he was hired by the Patriots.
Statorama
Footballguy
Blind Squirrels / AcornsThere are far more Marty Morningwegs (sp?) than Belichicks.
Chaka
Footballguy
It takes more than a head coach. Belichick could easily have flopped if he didn't have the support of a top notch front office.
perry147
Footballguy
such an uninspired hire. best case scenario is that he can get some consistent production out of the offense for the first time in forever, and hopefully he brings in a strong coordinator to run the defense.
trader jake
Footballguy
That's also how most felt about **** Jauron before he was hired by the Bills.Feel sorry for Bills fans today and I would be shocked if Gailey ever leads the team above .500.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Yeah, umm, good luck with this Billsfan. At least he doesn't have Reggie Ball as his Quarterback.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Punt Heavy
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Post of the Day!Seriously though, Gailey's reputation is as a running offensive coach. He was Cowher's OC in the days when Pittsburgh ran the ball. Also did the same with Dallas.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
He will be replaced by Durant Brooks.
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
anybody want my Marshawn Lynch?
switz
Footballguy
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!He wasn't very good with Ga. Tech, and IIRC he was awful with both Miami and the Cowboys.Just checked, the Chiefs were ranked (26/24) offensively when he was OC in '08-09. What makes the Bills think he can be any good?
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Laughed when I first saw this, couldn't believe it. Then, I actually felt bad for Bills fans. Sheesh.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Suck heavy
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Havn't Bills fans suffered enough? Great fans being poorly served.
trader jake
Footballguy
Captain Placeholder
Footballguy
Suck heavy, mostly.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Captain Placeholder
Footballguy
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Listening to good ol' boy Buddy Nix babble made me think that he tried to hire himself.
Between the two of them in that press conference, it was like...
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Between the two of them in that press conference, it was like...
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
I thought Gailey was a pretty assistant coach when he was with the Steelers but that was many moons ago. You would have thought the Bills would have hired a young fiery coach to breathe some life into the team.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Avery
Footballguy
Did you now?
JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
So really? do u guys want alone time the poster? gees
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Yes, especially when he wears lots of mascara and rouge.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
To be fair, he actually transitioned to a spread offense when he was forced to use Thigpen last year in KC. I think he does have the capability to be flexible depending on his personnel. At least that's what I'm trying to convince myself of.
Who else interviewed. i know Russ Grimm was suppose to interview for the job. leslie Frazier not make a trip? This is just the good old boy retread of an NFL guy back into the system. How many guys turned down the opportunity to interview for the job? I find it hard to believe he was their top choice for the job. I would take Mike Nolan or Brian Bileck before i would dust off Gailey to be my head coach.
Captain Placeholder
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You write like **** Clark speaks.So really? do u guys want alone time the poster? gees
They interviewewed Mike Shanahan and tried to recruit Cowher. They also interviewed Perry Fewell, Leslie Frazier, Jim Harbaugh, and Chan Gailey. Brian Schottenheimer turned down an interview request. Russ Grimm was expected to turn down an interview request. Ron Rivera also seemed uninterested in the job.Jim Harbaugh was reported to have turned down an offer for the job so it looks like they turned to Gailey afterwards.
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Faust
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Peter King's analysis:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writ...lbag/index.html
News item: Chan Gailey will be introduced as Buffalo's new coach today, and the Bills are laying low beforehand, knowing they're going to get rapped heavily for it and figuring they should put on a united front when they make their case. Four observations:
1. Easy to knock the hire. The Bills brought a batting-practice pitcher to the mound and put A-Rod and Pujols up to bat, so I'll knock it first, then give it the prayer of the chance it has.
Where was the Mike Zimmer interview? It was a big mistake not to interview the Cincinnati defensive coordinator who has turned his unit into a tough day at the office for any NFL offense. Zimmer, I can assure you, would have walked to Buffalo for the job. But he didn't get a sniff. And the list of guys who turned down the chance to even talk about the job ... it's so long that the only conclusion you can logically draw is the Bills are turning into the Raiders. No coach wants the job. So the team has to find a guy who wouldn't be a candidate elsewhere -- and Gailey, after clashing with Todd Haley in Kansas City last year, had nowhere to go.
2. A couple of coaches who didn't want to become a candidate for the job made no bones about the obstacles: They worry about the hire of a 70-year-old GM everyone thought was on the back nine of his career, Buddy Nix. They worry about owner Ralph Wilson's meddling. They worry about where the franchise might be in two years. They worry about luring free-agents to Buffalo. In short, it's a tough sell to attractive candidates. If Jim Harbaugh's going to have one good shot at an NFL job, why would he leave a place he loves, Stanford, for such an iffy venture in western New York? Ditto Brian Schottenheimer, Leslie Frazier and certainly Bill Cowher.
3. The Cowboy incumbents hate Gailey's more conservative offense that he installed post-Switzer in 1998. If it was too conservative then, what is it with the widespread spread offenses 12 years later?
4. Now for something positive. Gailey deserved better than getting fired after inheriting a 6-10 team and leading an aging, set-in their-ways, rich cast of players (including some me-first guys like Emmitt Smith and Deion Sanders) to two straight playoff appearances and an 18-16 record.
Early this season, when the vultures were circling around Wade Phillips in Dallas, owner Jerry Jones said what he regretted most in his first two decades as owner was not giving Gailey more than two years. "I believe more than ever that continuity is important,'' Jones said in October, "and I'm not going to make that mistake again.''
Gailey went 10-6 in his first year, including a club-record 8-0 mark against the then-five-team NFC East, before losing in the wild-card game to Arizona. Dallas went 8-8 and made the wild-card game again the next year, losing to Minnesota. Now, Troy Aikman thought Gailey was prehistoric and should have compromised to leave some of the Ernie Zampese/Norv Turner offense in place, but Gailey's offensive broom swept clean. So before you say he failed in Dallas, I'd caution you use another word. He didn't fail. He took a team in decline and staved it off for as long as he could.
Last point: I can guarantee you one of the things that the Bills loved was Gailey's attitude about how you can win without stars in the NFL. In fact, that's the kind of team he prefers. More than once in his career, he's told coaches he worked with: "You can win the World Series without Babe Ruth.'' In Buffalo, he's going to get that chance.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writ...lbag/index.html
News item: Chan Gailey will be introduced as Buffalo's new coach today, and the Bills are laying low beforehand, knowing they're going to get rapped heavily for it and figuring they should put on a united front when they make their case. Four observations:
1. Easy to knock the hire. The Bills brought a batting-practice pitcher to the mound and put A-Rod and Pujols up to bat, so I'll knock it first, then give it the prayer of the chance it has.
Where was the Mike Zimmer interview? It was a big mistake not to interview the Cincinnati defensive coordinator who has turned his unit into a tough day at the office for any NFL offense. Zimmer, I can assure you, would have walked to Buffalo for the job. But he didn't get a sniff. And the list of guys who turned down the chance to even talk about the job ... it's so long that the only conclusion you can logically draw is the Bills are turning into the Raiders. No coach wants the job. So the team has to find a guy who wouldn't be a candidate elsewhere -- and Gailey, after clashing with Todd Haley in Kansas City last year, had nowhere to go.
2. A couple of coaches who didn't want to become a candidate for the job made no bones about the obstacles: They worry about the hire of a 70-year-old GM everyone thought was on the back nine of his career, Buddy Nix. They worry about owner Ralph Wilson's meddling. They worry about where the franchise might be in two years. They worry about luring free-agents to Buffalo. In short, it's a tough sell to attractive candidates. If Jim Harbaugh's going to have one good shot at an NFL job, why would he leave a place he loves, Stanford, for such an iffy venture in western New York? Ditto Brian Schottenheimer, Leslie Frazier and certainly Bill Cowher.
3. The Cowboy incumbents hate Gailey's more conservative offense that he installed post-Switzer in 1998. If it was too conservative then, what is it with the widespread spread offenses 12 years later?
4. Now for something positive. Gailey deserved better than getting fired after inheriting a 6-10 team and leading an aging, set-in their-ways, rich cast of players (including some me-first guys like Emmitt Smith and Deion Sanders) to two straight playoff appearances and an 18-16 record.
Early this season, when the vultures were circling around Wade Phillips in Dallas, owner Jerry Jones said what he regretted most in his first two decades as owner was not giving Gailey more than two years. "I believe more than ever that continuity is important,'' Jones said in October, "and I'm not going to make that mistake again.''
Gailey went 10-6 in his first year, including a club-record 8-0 mark against the then-five-team NFC East, before losing in the wild-card game to Arizona. Dallas went 8-8 and made the wild-card game again the next year, losing to Minnesota. Now, Troy Aikman thought Gailey was prehistoric and should have compromised to leave some of the Ernie Zampese/Norv Turner offense in place, but Gailey's offensive broom swept clean. So before you say he failed in Dallas, I'd caution you use another word. He didn't fail. He took a team in decline and staved it off for as long as he could.
Last point: I can guarantee you one of the things that the Bills loved was Gailey's attitude about how you can win without stars in the NFL. In fact, that's the kind of team he prefers. More than once in his career, he's told coaches he worked with: "You can win the World Series without Babe Ruth.'' In Buffalo, he's going to get that chance.
Give Frazier a shot. Heck they should have called Bryan Schotenheimers dad to interview.
Faust
MVP
Don Banks:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writ...playoffs/1.html
Nothing against Chan Gailey, but it's a little surprising to me that Bills owner Ralph Wilson is banking on yet another ex-Steelers employee in a position of authority. The last two times Buffalo turned to a former Steelers coach or front office executive, things didn't exactly work out for the Bills. General manager Tom Donahoe and head coach Mike Mularkey both came to Buffalo from the Steelers organization, and things didn't end well for either of them with the Bills.
Gailey hasn't been in Pittsburgh since serving as Bill Cowher's offensive coordinator from 1994-97, but he did reportedly get a big endorsement from The Chin in Cowher's recent talks with Wilson. Based on Gailey's history, I would think Buffalo has just made a sizable commitment to the running game. That isn't exactly pushing the envelope when it comes to the most forward-thinking approach to winning in today's NFL.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writ...playoffs/1.html
Nothing against Chan Gailey, but it's a little surprising to me that Bills owner Ralph Wilson is banking on yet another ex-Steelers employee in a position of authority. The last two times Buffalo turned to a former Steelers coach or front office executive, things didn't exactly work out for the Bills. General manager Tom Donahoe and head coach Mike Mularkey both came to Buffalo from the Steelers organization, and things didn't end well for either of them with the Bills.
Gailey hasn't been in Pittsburgh since serving as Bill Cowher's offensive coordinator from 1994-97, but he did reportedly get a big endorsement from The Chin in Cowher's recent talks with Wilson. Based on Gailey's history, I would think Buffalo has just made a sizable commitment to the running game. That isn't exactly pushing the envelope when it comes to the most forward-thinking approach to winning in today's NFL.
not sure what happened with Frazier. Marty doesn't want to coach anymore according to every report I've heard.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Everything I've heard so far just says that Buddy Nix decided that the offense was the problem, and as such, they HAD to hire a coach with experience on that side of the ball. Since Frazier is a DC, he was no longer under consideration.But I have 2 problems with that:1) Why even bring him in to interview in the first place if you're not willing to hire a DC?2) Why even go this route since you're going to hire an OC to run the offense anyway? If you want a good offense, you hire a good offensive coordinator. If you want a good defense, you hire a good defensive coordinator. If you want a good team and organization, you hire a good Head Coach. Which side of the ball he came from should have NOTHING to do with the hiring of a head coach, IMO.So that's a total indictment of Buddy Nix and singlehandedly soured me on him.
Captain Placeholder
Footballguy
GB the Rooney Rule! Ain't it great?
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
Honestly, I do not want to sound nasty (as your franchise has a better history than mine), but this is just flat-out alarming. I am a headhunter, and if I represent a job that 4+ people turn down, I am very, very worried. I have never been more than five deep, but if I was seven deep, I would sell the franchise to the guy with the "original" recipe for the Wings straightup and run to Sarasota.
Statorama
Footballguy
I never said Belichick was a poor coordinator. I just said that there were plenty of guys that should have stayed coordinators (**** LeBeau comes to mind) because they simply weren't good enough to be the top dog. Gailey just isn't good enough for the head spot. If I were a Bills fan I'd call for his immediate resignation before he can do more harm to the organization.perry147 said:Statorama said:
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
They had already re-interviewed Perry Fewell so they didn't need to interview Leslie Frazier. It is interesting that Adam Schefter tweeted that two other NFL teams seriously considered Gailey last year for their Head Coaching positions but decided not to go with him because they didn't think he would have the "sizzle" factor with fans. I'll be honest in that I'm totally on board with an organization that could care less what the fans think as far as "sizzle" factor if they KNOW they're getting a guy that can flat out coach. If Gailey can truly coach, then we'll see it on the field and he'll quickly win over fans. I just don't see any logic behind Buffalo's hiring of Gailey though if the rumors are true about them hiring him because he has head coaching experience and is an "offensive" coach. You hire a coach who has the abilities to be a great head coach, not because he's offensive or defensive "minded."Captain Placeholder said:
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
apparently for some reason Schottenheimer wanted the Bills job. so I'm confused about the report earlier that he "turned down an interview request."
ESPN Report: Schottenheimer wanted Bills gig
ESPN Report: Schottenheimer wanted Bills gig
never heard a report about Marty turning down a request. people just assumed he wasn't interested, but now it sounds like the Bills never considered interviewing him.
FrostBite
Footballguy
Can Gailey resurrect Marshawn Lynch or has everyone already given up on him and think it's Jackson's job to lose?
Gailey has had some good RB's during his time in the NFL. (Jerome Bettis, Emmitt Smith, Larry Johnson - for a few preseason games) And they've all gotten 300+ attempts when he's been there. (even Lamar Smith MIA had 300+ attempts in 2000 and 2001)
Will he pick a workhorse back or will it be a committee? Which RB fits his scheme better?
Gailey has had some good RB's during his time in the NFL. (Jerome Bettis, Emmitt Smith, Larry Johnson - for a few preseason games) And they've all gotten 300+ attempts when he's been there. (even Lamar Smith MIA had 300+ attempts in 2000 and 2001)
Will he pick a workhorse back or will it be a committee? Which RB fits his scheme better?
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