Changing of the guard in Denver? (1 Viewer)

[Sabertooth]

Audible listeners were told in no uncertain terms that Ronnie Hillman had talent. Daily reports out of Dove Valley were glowing but we were told that it would take some time. That was in August. And just as summer faded into fall, we've seen Willis McGahee's number fade with each passing week. What we don't know is whether he's now riding into the sunset of his career. I drafted Hillman but was unable to secure McGahee. As the season wore on, the McGahee owner's team slid further and further down the rankings until I was able to get him....and then he started his spiral downward.

Coming off the 22.5 point effort against the Saints, he's now had zero 100 yard games (combined) and zero touchdowns after starting out topping 100 four times and scoring four times in the beginning of the season. Have the wheels come off the McGahee train? Are was witnessing a true changing of the guard in Denver? The injury is how it happens. It's how it always happens with an aging veteran. The injury creates a crack, and the young upstart slips through it. And he is off and running.

Is this that moment? Is Hillman as good as Cecil says he is? Is Hillman the guy that gets hot and wins you some playoff games down the stretch?

 

[jim k]

No. Too slight to run inside. Broncos already have outlet receivers. Even with fumbles this is a big downgrade from mcgahee.

 

[Sabertooth]

No. Too slight to run inside. Broncos already have outlet receivers. Even with fumbles this is a big downgrade from mcgahee.

I hear this all the time. I watch Danny Woodhead run inside and he's about 160 lbs. There may be a multitude of reasons he doesn't take this job. But I think simply dismissing a player as "too small" is just lazy.

 

[donkshow]

I certainly hope so. I have Willis and made a move for Hillman at the deadline for the injury precaution.

He looks good, I just worry about how much they give it to Ball especially when he had a better YPC carry yesterday.

 

[Wadsworth]

Audible listeners were told in no uncertain terms that Ronnie Hillman had talent. Daily reports out of Dove Valley were glowing but we were told that it would take some time. That was in August. And just as summer faded into fall, we've seen Willis McGahee's number fade with each passing week. What we don't know is whether he's now riding into the sunset of his career. I drafted Hillman but was unable to secure McGahee. As the season wore on, the McGahee owner's team slid further and further down the rankings until I was able to get him....and then he started his spiral downward.

Coming off the 22.5 point effort against the Saints, he's now had zero 100 yard games (combined) and zero touchdowns after starting out topping 100 four times and scoring four times in the beginning of the season. Have the wheels come off the McGahee train? Are was witnessing a true changing of the guard in Denver? The injury is how it happens. It's how it always happens with an aging veteran. The injury creates a crack, and the young upstart slips through it. And he is off and running.

Is this that moment? Is Hillman as good as Cecil says he is? Is Hillman the guy that gets hot and wins you some playoff games down the stretch?

McGahee had 7 rushes for 55 yards and 1 catch for 18 yards in the first 20 minutes of the game. That is not fading.

If Willis is hurt Hillman will get a chance to share the load with Lance Ball, if he out produces and Ball and protects Manning he will get more touches. Yesterday Hillman was 12 for 43 and Ball was 6 for 35.

 

[PhantomJB]

Typical RBBC with Hillman getting 70/30 carries between the 20's and Ball seeing GL looks.

 

[shader]

I think this is a good opportunity coming up this week. I look for Hillman to cement the starting job. Lance Ball is Lance Ball. He's not going to take over. Hillman was drafted to be the replacement and I think he will.

 

[Sabertooth]

Audible listeners were told in no uncertain terms that Ronnie Hillman had talent. Daily reports out of Dove Valley were glowing but we were told that it would take some time. That was in August. And just as summer faded into fall, we've seen Willis McGahee's number fade with each passing week. What we don't know is whether he's now riding into the sunset of his career. I drafted Hillman but was unable to secure McGahee. As the season wore on, the McGahee owner's team slid further and further down the rankings until I was able to get him....and then he started his spiral downward.

Coming off the 22.5 point effort against the Saints, he's now had zero 100 yard games (combined) and zero touchdowns after starting out topping 100 four times and scoring four times in the beginning of the season. Have the wheels come off the McGahee train? Are was witnessing a true changing of the guard in Denver? The injury is how it happens. It's how it always happens with an aging veteran. The injury creates a crack, and the young upstart slips through it. And he is off and running.

Is this that moment? Is Hillman as good as Cecil says he is? Is Hillman the guy that gets hot and wins you some playoff games down the stretch?

McGahee had 7 rushes for 55 yards and 1 catch for 18 yards in the first 20 minutes of the game. That is not fading.

If Willis is hurt Hillman will get a chance to share the load with Lance Ball, if he out produces and Ball and protects Manning he will get more touches. Yesterday Hillman was 12 for 43 and Ball was 6 for 35.

Willis has not had anywhere near his early season success in more than a month. I know because he stopped producing right when I traded to get him. He's been putting up journeyman numbers for a month.

 

[Sabertooth]

I just hope somebody, anybody starts producing in Denver for the playoffs.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Typical RBBC with Hillman getting 70/30 carries between the 20's and Ball seeing GL looks.

This is pretty much what I see. Ball may be usable in heavy TD teagues.

 

[moleculo]

Hillman, to me, looks like the game is too fast for him at this point. He looks like he is going full-speed, all the time, and not reading blocks or setting things up.

That's probably normal for a rookie, especially the youngest one in the league. Once the game slows down for him, he will be fine but he's not there yet.

 

[Statcruncher]

I watch Danny Woodhead run inside and he's about 160 lbs.

I don't have any opinion on the Hillman/McGahee situation but felt the need to correct this. Woodhead is 5' 8" 200lbs. Basically the same as Hillman's 5' 9" 200lbs.

 

[Clifford]

Audible listeners were told in no uncertain terms that Ronnie Hillman had talent. Daily reports out of Dove Valley were glowing but we were told that it would take some time. That was in August. And just as summer faded into fall, we've seen Willis McGahee's number fade with each passing week. What we don't know is whether he's now riding into the sunset of his career. I drafted Hillman but was unable to secure McGahee. As the season wore on, the McGahee owner's team slid further and further down the rankings until I was able to get him....and then he started his spiral downward.Coming off the 22.5 point effort against the Saints, he's now had zero 100 yard games (combined) and zero touchdowns after starting out topping 100 four times and scoring four times in the beginning of the season. Have the wheels come off the McGahee train? Are was witnessing a true changing of the guard in Denver? The injury is how it happens. It's how it always happens with an aging veteran. The injury creates a crack, and the young upstart slips through it. And he is off and running. Is this that moment? Is Hillman as good as Cecil says he is? Is Hillman the guy that gets hot and wins you some playoff games down the stretch?

Hillman is nothing special. Have no idea what Cecil sees in him. Just look at the YPC from last game. Mcgahee averaged 7 before getting hurt, Ball had 5.5, and Hillman had sub 4, like 3.6 or something. He might develop next year if he can bulk up, but I wouldn't put him in my top 30 of dynasty backs. Much rather have someone like Ballard or Rodgers.

 

[JackReacher]

Audible listeners were told in no uncertain terms that Ronnie Hillman had talent. Daily reports out of Dove Valley were glowing but we were told that it would take some time. That was in August. And just as summer faded into fall, we've seen Willis McGahee's number fade with each passing week. What we don't know is whether he's now riding into the sunset of his career. I drafted Hillman but was unable to secure McGahee. As the season wore on, the McGahee owner's team slid further and further down the rankings until I was able to get him....and then he started his spiral downward.Coming off the 22.5 point effort against the Saints, he's now had zero 100 yard games (combined) and zero touchdowns after starting out topping 100 four times and scoring four times in the beginning of the season. Have the wheels come off the McGahee train? Are was witnessing a true changing of the guard in Denver? The injury is how it happens. It's how it always happens with an aging veteran. The injury creates a crack, and the young upstart slips through it. And he is off and running. Is this that moment? Is Hillman as good as Cecil says he is? Is Hillman the guy that gets hot and wins you some playoff games down the stretch?

Hillman is nothing special. Have no idea what Cecil sees in him. Just look at the YPC from last game. Mcgahee averaged 7 before getting hurt, Ball had 5.5, and Hillman had sub 4, like 3.6 or something. He might develop next year if he can bulk up, but I wouldn't put him in my top 30 of dynasty backs. Much rather have someone like Ballard or Rodgers.

Worth noting his final 3 carries (for about -1 yards) were straight in to the line as time killers, with ball security the main objective, so that affected his average some. Was surprised Fox used him instead of the veteran Ball in that situation.

 

[SonnyD]

Audible listeners were told in no uncertain terms that Ronnie Hillman had talent. Daily reports out of Dove Valley were glowing but we were told that it would take some time. That was in August. And just as summer faded into fall, we've seen Willis McGahee's number fade with each passing week. What we don't know is whether he's now riding into the sunset of his career. I drafted Hillman but was unable to secure McGahee. As the season wore on, the McGahee owner's team slid further and further down the rankings until I was able to get him....and then he started his spiral downward.Coming off the 22.5 point effort against the Saints, he's now had zero 100 yard games (combined) and zero touchdowns after starting out topping 100 four times and scoring four times in the beginning of the season. Have the wheels come off the McGahee train? Are was witnessing a true changing of the guard in Denver? The injury is how it happens. It's how it always happens with an aging veteran. The injury creates a crack, and the young upstart slips through it. And he is off and running. Is this that moment? Is Hillman as good as Cecil says he is? Is Hillman the guy that gets hot and wins you some playoff games down the stretch?

Hillman is nothing special. Have no idea what Cecil sees in him. Just look at the YPC from last game. Mcgahee averaged 7 before getting hurt, Ball had 5.5, and Hillman had sub 4, like 3.6 or something. He might develop next year if he can bulk up, but I wouldn't put him in my top 30 of dynasty backs. Much rather have someone like Ballard or Rodgers.

Hey man, nothing like taking a large sample size to come up with a solid assessment! Good posting.Anyway, he's got the home run ability but he also seems to have nagging injuries as well. Came up hobbling yesterday after one of his runs. Someone earlier said it best, 70/30 split between the 20's with Ball being the GL back. However I can see Hillman being in there on 3rd and goal to go as he's done a few times spelling McGahee this year.

 

[Clifford]

Yeah but other than 1 game his YPC has sucked pretty hard. Not discounting or taking away that game but I think mcgahee went off too so was a pretty soft d.

 

[Clifford]

Audible listeners were told in no uncertain terms that Ronnie Hillman had talent. Daily reports out of Dove Valley were glowing but we were told that it would take some time. That was in August. And just as summer faded into fall, we've seen Willis McGahee's number fade with each passing week. What we don't know is whether he's now riding into the sunset of his career. I drafted Hillman but was unable to secure McGahee. As the season wore on, the McGahee owner's team slid further and further down the rankings until I was able to get him....and then he started his spiral downward.Coming off the 22.5 point effort against the Saints, he's now had zero 100 yard games (combined) and zero touchdowns after starting out topping 100 four times and scoring four times in the beginning of the season. Have the wheels come off the McGahee train? Are was witnessing a true changing of the guard in Denver? The injury is how it happens. It's how it always happens with an aging veteran. The injury creates a crack, and the young upstart slips through it. And he is off and running. Is this that moment? Is Hillman as good as Cecil says he is? Is Hillman the guy that gets hot and wins you some playoff games down the stretch?

Hillman is nothing special. Have no idea what Cecil sees in him. Just look at the YPC from last game. Mcgahee averaged 7 before getting hurt, Ball had 5.5, and Hillman had sub 4, like 3.6 or something. He might develop next year if he can bulk up, but I wouldn't put him in my top 30 of dynasty backs. Much rather have someone like Ballard or Rodgers.

Hey man, nothing like taking a large sample size to come up with a solid assessment! Good posting.

He's averaging 3.8 on the year.

 

[Wadsworth]

Audible listeners were told in no uncertain terms that Ronnie Hillman had talent. Daily reports out of Dove Valley were glowing but we were told that it would take some time. That was in August. And just as summer faded into fall, we've seen Willis McGahee's number fade with each passing week. What we don't know is whether he's now riding into the sunset of his career. I drafted Hillman but was unable to secure McGahee. As the season wore on, the McGahee owner's team slid further and further down the rankings until I was able to get him....and then he started his spiral downward.Coming off the 22.5 point effort against the Saints, he's now had zero 100 yard games (combined) and zero touchdowns after starting out topping 100 four times and scoring four times in the beginning of the season. Have the wheels come off the McGahee train? Are was witnessing a true changing of the guard in Denver? The injury is how it happens. It's how it always happens with an aging veteran. The injury creates a crack, and the young upstart slips through it. And he is off and running. Is this that moment? Is Hillman as good as Cecil says he is? Is Hillman the guy that gets hot and wins you some playoff games down the stretch?

Hillman is nothing special. Have no idea what Cecil sees in him. Just look at the YPC from last game. Mcgahee averaged 7 before getting hurt, Ball had 5.5, and Hillman had sub 4, like 3.6 or something. He might develop next year if he can bulk up, but I wouldn't put him in my top 30 of dynasty backs. Much rather have someone like Ballard or Rodgers.

Hey man, nothing like taking a large sample size to come up with a solid assessment! Good posting.

He's averaging 3.8 on the year.

His only game with a per carry average over 4 yards was his 6.1 per carry game against the Saints defense. Small sample size to be sure since he only has 49 rushes, but none the less not encouraging.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Is Willis even out?

 

[Wadsworth]

Is Willis even out?

No. Just people looking for the next thing.

 

[Sabertooth]

I watch Danny Woodhead run inside and he's about 160 lbs.

I don't have any opinion on the Hillman/McGahee situation but felt the need to correct this. Woodhead is 5' 8" 200lbs. Basically the same as Hillman's 5' 9" 200lbs.

Ok. Thanks for the information.

 

[Sabertooth]

Is Willis even out?

No. Just people looking for the next thing.

I'm indifferent on who gets the rock, I just want somebody who is going to contribute during Week 14-16. Nobody in the Denver Backfield has been very good since week 8.

 

[wickster33]

The only concern about Hillman is his ability to block for Peyton. He's a perfect fit for a Manning offense, and will easily garner Joseph Addai (circa 2009) stats if he gets that 70/30 split. I see him getting more carries even if Willis is healthy, and he is the full time RB of the future for Denver.

 

[rascal]

If you watched the game, or any Bronco game, you would notice a discernable difference in production between McGahee and Hillman. There is no question that McGahee is the better back and will have the job when he is healthy.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

No. Too slight to run inside. Broncos already have outlet receivers. Even with fumbles this is a big downgrade from mcgahee.

I hear this all the time. I watch Danny Woodhead run inside and he's about 160 lbs. There may be a multitude of reasons he doesn't take this job. But I think simply dismissing a player as "too small" is just lazy.

Whether size is the issue or not, Hillman just doesn't look nearly as good back there as Mcgahee.

 

[packersfan]

I thought it was pretty interesting that Hillman was the RB who closed out the game against San Diego. They trusted him enough to give him those carries so they must be confident in his ball security.

 

[Sabertooth]

If you watched the game, or any Bronco game, you would notice a discernable difference in production between McGahee and Hillman. There is no question that McGahee is the better back and will have the job when he is healthy.

There is really no questions though that Willis is playing on borrowed time. This is how the end appears. First comes falling production and injuries, next thing you know, he's a broadcaster. The wall hits suddenly, that's why its called "the wall."

 

[rascal]

Audible listeners were told in no uncertain terms that Ronnie Hillman had talent. Daily reports out of Dove Valley were glowing but we were told that it would take some time. That was in August. And just as summer faded into fall, we've seen Willis McGahee's number fade with each passing week. What we don't know is whether he's now riding into the sunset of his career. I drafted Hillman but was unable to secure McGahee. As the season wore on, the McGahee owner's team slid further and further down the rankings until I was able to get him....and then he started his spiral downward.

Coming off the 22.5 point effort against the Saints, he's now had zero 100 yard games (combined) and zero touchdowns after starting out topping 100 four times and scoring four times in the beginning of the season. Have the wheels come off the McGahee train? Are was witnessing a true changing of the guard in Denver? The injury is how it happens. It's how it always happens with an aging veteran. The injury creates a crack, and the young upstart slips through it. And he is off and running.

Is this that moment? Is Hillman as good as Cecil says he is? Is Hillman the guy that gets hot and wins you some playoff games down the stretch?

Hillman is nothing special. Have no idea what Cecil sees in him. Just look at the YPC from last game. Mcgahee averaged 7 before getting hurt, Ball had 5.5, and Hillman had sub 4, like 3.6 or something. He might develop next year if he can bulk up, but I wouldn't put him in my top 30 of dynasty backs. Much rather have someone like Ballard or Rodgers.

Hey man, nothing like taking a large sample size to come up with a solid assessment! Good posting.Anyway, he's got the home run ability but he also seems to have nagging injuries as well. Came up hobbling yesterday after one of his runs. Someone earlier said it best, 70/30 split between the 20's with Ball being the GL back. However I can see Hillman being in there on 3rd and goal to go as he's done a few times spelling McGahee this year.

If he was better than McGahee he would have showed something in the carries he had. But he hasn't. Instead, every fan, and I mean almost every Bronco fan, is praying for McGahee to get back soon. Hell, some are saying we need to bring Moreno back instead of Hillman.

 

[Warrior]

If you watched the game, or any Bronco game, you would notice a discernable difference in production between McGahee and Hillman. There is no question that McGahee is the better back and will have the job when he is healthy.

*before injury

 

[rascal]

If you watched the game, or any Bronco game, you would notice a discernable difference in production between McGahee and Hillman. There is no question that McGahee is the better back and will have the job when he is healthy.

There is really no questions though that Willis is playing on borrowed time. This is how the end appears. First comes falling production and injuries, next thing you know, he's a broadcaster. The wall hits suddenly, that's why its called "the wall."

He was doing pretty good against the #2 run defense before he got hurt.I expect Denver to get a new RB next year. Hillman has potential as a scat back, but we need a power back and he is obviously not it. Hell, they started to give carries to Holliday.

 

[Sabertooth]

If you watched the game, or any Bronco game, you would notice a discernable difference in production between McGahee and Hillman. There is no question that McGahee is the better back and will have the job when he is healthy.

*before injury

Well that's really what we are talking aren't we? Injuries get magnified when you are north of 30 years old. You know the wheels are coming off the bus at some point. Is this that point? We don't know. I hope he comes back strong and fresh for the end of the season run in the fantasy playoffs.

 

[Sabertooth]

If you watched the game, or any Bronco game, you would notice a discernable difference in production between McGahee and Hillman. There is no question that McGahee is the better back and will have the job when he is healthy.

There is really no questions though that Willis is playing on borrowed time. This is how the end appears. First comes falling production and injuries, next thing you know, he's a broadcaster. The wall hits suddenly, that's why its called "the wall."

He was doing pretty good against the #2 run defense before he got hurt.I expect Denver to get a new RB next year. Hillman has potential as a scat back, but we need a power back and he is obviously not it. Hell, they started to give carries to Holliday.

Many backs have come in and put on size before their sophomore seasons. Looks no further than Portis. He was nowhere near the same size as a rookie as he was with his bloated belly at the end.

 

[rascal]

If you watched the game, or any Bronco game, you would notice a discernable difference in production between McGahee and Hillman. There is no question that McGahee is the better back and will have the job when he is healthy.

*before injury

What does this look like???

 

[rascal]

If you watched the game, or any Bronco game, you would notice a discernable difference in production between McGahee and Hillman. There is no question that McGahee is the better back and will have the job when he is healthy.

There is really no questions though that Willis is playing on borrowed time. This is how the end appears. First comes falling production and injuries, next thing you know, he's a broadcaster. The wall hits suddenly, that's why its called "the wall."

He was doing pretty good against the #2 run defense before he got hurt.I expect Denver to get a new RB next year. Hillman has potential as a scat back, but we need a power back and he is obviously not it. Hell, they started to give carries to Holliday.

Many backs have come in and put on size before their sophomore seasons. Looks no further than Portis. He was nowhere near the same size as a rookie as he was with his bloated belly at the end.

Maybe, all I know is that he is not the answer this season. Small sample size or not, I see a considerable difference in their performance between McGahee and Hillman. If I'm Elway and looking at this roster there are some places for improvement, and with McGahee's age RB is at the top of my list. I'd be shocked if we don't get another RB this offseason.

 

[Isotopes]

I watch Danny Woodhead run inside and he's about 160 lbs.

I don't have any opinion on the Hillman/McGahee situation but felt the need to correct this. Woodhead is 5' 8" 200lbs. Basically the same as Hillman's 5' 9" 200lbs.

Sorry for the sidebar - but the Woodhead comment is laughable to me. Regardless of the guys exact size, the fact of the matter is he gets a few carries per game, and sometimes he gets zero carries per game. To use him as an argument in this discussion, especially as an argument in FAVOR of Hillman being able to run inside is flawed. I'm sure Woodhead is on the waiver wire - so why not just pick him up since has already proven he can run inside? Sorry....couldn't get passed it.

 

[PhantomJB]

The only concern about Hillman is his ability to block for Peyton. He's a perfect fit for a Manning offense, and will easily garner Joseph Addai (circa 2009) stats if he gets that 70/30 split. I see him getting more carries even if Willis is healthy, and he is the full time RB of the future for Denver.

Agreed. Which is why Lance Ball will continue to see his share.http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_22026792/lance-balls-blitz-pickup-serves-unlikely-game-changer

 

[qimqam]

Ball will be the primary back until Mcghee comes back with Hillman getting a few more touches than than normal.

NoShow WillShow complicating things further

 

[BallparkFrank]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

New England not only team to take hit: @mortreport and I reporting Broncos RB Willis McGahee has a torn MCL, will miss six to eight weeks.

 

[munygon2]

FWIW per Rotoword - still waiting on an injury update:

The Broncos will work out free agent RB Steve Slaton on Tuesday.CBS' Jason La Canfora reports the Broncos will work out a host of free agent backs with Willis McGahee (knee) looking shaky for Week 12. Slaton worked out for the Jets last week, but was passed over in favor of Kahlil Bell. He wouldn't be any higher than third on the depth chart if he landed in Denver.

 

[Sir Psycho]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefterNew England not only team to take hit: @mortreport and I reporting Broncos RB Willis McGahee has a torn MCL, will miss six to eight

 

[munygon2]

Well....I guess I know who I'll be putting in a claim for this week.

 

[donkshow]

FML

 

[DoubleG]

No. Too slight to run inside. Broncos already have outlet receivers. Even with fumbles this is a big downgrade from mcgahee.

I hear this all the time. I watch Danny Woodhead run inside and he's about 160 lbs. There may be a multitude of reasons he doesn't take this job. But I think simply dismissing a player as "too small" is just lazy.

Why do you post a poll if you clearly favor one position and are ready to shout down anyone who disagrees??

 

[Sabertooth]

No. Too slight to run inside. Broncos already have outlet receivers. Even with fumbles this is a big downgrade from mcgahee.

I hear this all the time. I watch Danny Woodhead run inside and he's about 160 lbs. There may be a multitude of reasons he doesn't take this job. But I think simply dismissing a player as "too small" is just lazy.

Why do you post a poll if you clearly favor one position and are ready to shout down anyone who disagrees??

Shout down? Hardly.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

FWIW per Rotoword - still waiting on an injury update:

The Broncos will work out free agent RB Steve Slaton on Tuesday.

CBS' Jason La Canfora reports the Broncos will work out a host of free agent backs with Willis McGahee (knee) looking shaky for Week 12. Slaton worked out for the Jets last week, but was passed over in favor of Kahlil Bell. He wouldn't be any higher than third on the depth chart if he landed in Denver.

And Moreno is healthy but has been inactive?If you're a McGahee owner (or just in need) maybe grab both Hillman and Ball and start someone else next week until you see how it shakes out.

 

[moleculo]

Love the Hillman hype. That will let me get Moreno for peanuts. Here is my take on the RB packing order from last week, I have seen or heard nothing to make me change my mind on this.

 

[monkeysee]

No. Too slight to run inside. Broncos already have outlet receivers. Even with fumbles this is a big downgrade from mcgahee.

I hear this all the time. I watch Danny Woodhead run inside and he's about 160 lbs. There may be a multitude of reasons he doesn't take this job. But I think simply dismissing a player as "too small" is just lazy.

Agreed. This guy has skills. Upgrade over McGahee especially with his improved pass blocking. Hillman is a game breaker while McGahee the pedestrian safe play. Hillman owners must be thrilled to get a test run of their shiny new motor. Wish I had him in a dynasty league especially.

 

[monkeysee]

Love the Hillman hype. That will let me get Moreno for peanuts. Here is my take on the RB packing order from last week, I have seen or heard nothing to make me change my mind on this.

Why would they make a move to draft Hillman if they were so secure and happy with Moreno. Moreno = BUST of major proportions.Moreno will be waiver wire fodder remainder of his career.

 

[moleculo]

No. Too slight to run inside. Broncos already have outlet receivers. Even with fumbles this is a big downgrade from mcgahee.

I hear this all the time. I watch Danny Woodhead run inside and he's about 160 lbs. There may be a multitude of reasons he doesn't take this job. But I think simply dismissing a player as "too small" is just lazy.

Agreed. This guy has skills. Upgrade over McGahee especially with his improved pass blocking. Hillman is a game breaker while McGahee the pedestrian safe play. Hillman owners must be thrilled to get a test run of their shiny new motor. Wish I had him in a dynasty league especially.

people keep saying that; I have yet to see Hillman break a game.

 

[moleculo]

Love the Hillman hype. That will let me get Moreno for peanuts. Here is my take on the RB packing order from last week, I have seen or heard nothing to make me change my mind on this.

Why would they make a move to draft Hillman if they were so secure and happy with Moreno. Moreno = BUST of major proportions.Moreno will be waiver wire fodder remainder of his career.

why? Well, for one, Moreno was recovering from an ACL to start training camp. For two, he hasn't shown to be a special talent even when healthy.I'm not here to deny Moreno = bust or that he's even good, I'm here to say that Hillman really hasn't shown a whole lot of anything yet, as well as remind everyone that John Fox has a long history of not trusting rookie RB's; I doubt he starts with the health of Peyton Manning on the line.