Chargers HC Search Down to Four (1 Viewer)

[seahawk 17]

1. Norv Turner

2. Mike Singletary

3. Ron Rivera

4. Rex Ryan.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/202...ing_Search.html

 

[jeter23]

1. Norv Turner

2. Mike Singletary

3. Ron Rivera

4. Rex Ryan.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/202...ing_Search.html

I think it is pretty obvious that it will be either Turner or Rivera. I am leaning towards Turner.

 

[Marauder]

Where in that article does it say that they've narrowed the search down to only those four?

 

[Sea Bass]

Turner as head coach. One of the other three as defensive coordinator.

Signed,

LT owner

 

[seahawk 17]

Where in that article does it say that they've narrowed the search down to only those four?

Narrow= Chargers to interview 4 for coaching job

Not 5, 6, 7, 8.....

 

[TeamDingo]

Where in that article does it say that they've narrowed the search down to only those four?

Narrow= Chargers to interview 4 for coaching job

Not 5, 6, 7, 8.....

Two Additional Candidates To Interview With ChargersAccording to league sources, Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer and Seattle Seahawks assistant head coach/defensive backs Jim Mora Jr. will interview with the San Diego Chargers regarding their vacant head coaching position.

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports...=7&cxcat=21

 

[Ozymandias]

Where in that article does it say that they've narrowed the search down to only those four?

Narrow= Chargers to interview 4 for coaching job

Not 5, 6, 7, 8.....

And meanwhile, Spanos is whispering in Jimmy Johnson's ear...

 

[Marauder]

Where in that article does it say that they've narrowed the search down to only those four?

Narrow= Chargers to interview 4 for coaching job

Not 5, 6, 7, 8.....

Two Additional Candidates To Interview With ChargersAccording to league sources, Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer and Seattle Seahawks assistant head coach/defensive backs Jim Mora Jr. will interview with the San Diego Chargers regarding their vacant head coaching position.

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports...=7&cxcat=21

I guess they've narrowed it down to six now.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Where in that article does it say that they've narrowed the search down to only those four?

Narrow= Chargers to interview 4 for coaching job

Not 5, 6, 7, 8.....

Two Additional Candidates To Interview With ChargersAccording to league sources, Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer and Seattle Seahawks assistant head coach/defensive backs Jim Mora Jr. will interview with the San Diego Chargers regarding their vacant head coaching position.

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports...=7&cxcat=21

I guess they've narrowed it down to six now.

They may further narrow it down to eight soon.

 

[Despyzer]

I think it is pretty obvious that it will be either Turner or Rivera.

It is? According to whom?

 

[DocNiner52]

Maybe it'll end up being likethe NCAA basketball tournament and we'll have a sweet 16 I wish they'd stay the hell away from OUR coaches, Norv Turner and Mike Singletary. I know, I know, we took one of theirs, it's only fair. Ok, we'll give them Singletary then if we must First Dallas put us through the ringer with Turner and Singletary, now we must endure the wait from San Diego. Let my people GO

 

[DanFouts]

I doubt it's narrowed down at all. I think those are the active guys they received permission to talk to. There are probably more in the works.....

Don't think I like Rivera here......would he move a 4-3 in??????

 

[seahawk 17]

Where in that article does it say that they've narrowed the search down to only those four?

Narrow= Chargers to interview 4 for coaching job

Not 5, 6, 7, 8.....

Two Additional Candidates To Interview With ChargersAccording to league sources, Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer and Seattle Seahawks assistant head coach/defensive backs Jim Mora Jr. will interview with the San Diego Chargers regarding their vacant head coaching position.

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports...=7&cxcat=21

I guess they've narrowed it down to six now.

Based on your own article, neither one of those guys interviews are set in stone. Speculation at it's best.

 

[Gr00vus]

Try this article from the SD UnionTrib:

...The Chargers yesterday requested to speak with at least six candidates currently under contract with other franchises, including Jim Mora, Ron Rivera, Rex Ryan, Mike Singletary and Norv Turner....Additionally, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported late last night that the Chargers requested to speak to Mike Zimmer, the Atlanta Falcons' newly hired defensive coordinator.

 

[buster c]

1. Norv Turner

2. Mike Singletary

3. Ron Rivera

4. Rex Ryan.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/202...ing_Search.html

I don't think any of these guys will be the next HC

 

[switz]

Try this article from the SD UnionTrib:

...The Chargers yesterday requested to speak with at least six candidates currently under contract with other franchises, including Jim Mora, Ron Rivera, Rex Ryan, Mike Singletary and Norv Turner....Additionally, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported late last night that the Chargers requested to speak to Mike Zimmer, the Atlanta Falcons' newly hired defensive coordinator.

Sounds pretty narrowed down to me

 

[BigRed]

Based on your own article, neither one of those guys interviews are set in stone. Speculation at it's best.

Always fun to see a guy who's digging himself a hole grab a bigger shovel.

 

[Rounders]

Turner and Ryan, write it down.

For all of those Pete Carroll lovers, wake up, it's not going to happen.

 

[perry147]

Where in that article does it say that they've narrowed the search down to only those four?

Narrow= Chargers to interview 4 for coaching job

Not 5, 6, 7, 8.....

And meanwhile, Spanos is whispering in Jimmy Johnson's ear...

Can you imagine Jimmy Johnson coaching LT and Emmit Smith? We are talking about being able to coach maybe the two greatest RB's ever. (I know Walter Peyton is still the king.)

 

[B Maverick]

Turner is NOT a good HC. He is an excellent OC. Hiring him would be bad for SD.

Rex Ryan is a good choice. Looks like Cottrell may be the DC so you have the 3-4 influence in cotrell and Ryan coming from the 06 #1 def.

 

[redman]

Ok, for God's sake stop making the mistake I keep seeing made here. Someone who is an offensive or defensive coordinator cannot move from one team to another and occupy the same position (essentially a "lateral move") without first getting their present team's permission. Usually teams demand some form of compensation for that, usually draft picks.

Turner's the OC for SF; Rivera's the DC for the Bears; Ryan is the DC for Baltimore; Singletary is the Asst Head Coach Defense (essentially DC) for SF. As a practical matter, those guys will either become the Chargers' head coach or will remain where they are.

Please stop with the "Norv as OC and Rivera as head coach" nonsense. It's overwhelmingly likely that things won't happen that way.

 

[Despyzer]

Usually teams demand some form of compensation for that, usually draft picks.

To top it off, NFL rules no longer allow trading of picks in compensation for coordinators or assistants, only head coaches.

 

[Rounders]

Ok, for God's sake stop making the mistake I keep seeing made here. Someone who is an offensive or defensive coordinator cannot move from one team to another and occupy the same position (essentially a "lateral move") without first getting their present team's permission. Usually teams demand some form of compensation for that, usually draft picks. Turner's the OC for SF; Rivera's the DC for the Bears; Ryan is the DC for Baltimore; Singletary is the Asst Head Coach Defense (essentially DC) for SF. As a practical matter, those guys will either become the Chargers' head coach or will remain where they are. Please stop with the "Norv as OC and Rivera as head coach" nonsense. It's overwhelmingly likely that things won't happen that way.

It's my understanding that they can switch teams if they get a bigger title. So Rivera can go to Chargers if them make him the Assistant Head Coach - Defensive Coordinator.Am I misunderstanding that? I beleive there are many ways to skin a cat.

 

[perry147]

Ok, for God's sake stop making the mistake I keep seeing made here. Someone who is an offensive or defensive coordinator cannot move from one team to another and occupy the same position (essentially a "lateral move") without first getting their present team's permission. Usually teams demand some form of compensation for that, usually draft picks. Turner's the OC for SF; Rivera's the DC for the Bears; Ryan is the DC for Baltimore; Singletary is the Asst Head Coach Defense (essentially DC) for SF. As a practical matter, those guys will either become the Chargers' head coach or will remain where they are. Please stop with the "Norv as OC and Rivera as head coach" nonsense. It's overwhelmingly likely that things won't happen that way.

It's my understanding that they can switch teams if they get a bigger title. So Rivera can go to Chargers if them make him the Assistant Head Coach - Defensive Coordinator.Am I misunderstanding that? I beleive there are many ways to skin a cat.

This is true.

 

[Rounders]

Ok, for God's sake stop making the mistake I keep seeing made here. Someone who is an offensive or defensive coordinator cannot move from one team to another and occupy the same position (essentially a "lateral move") without first getting their present team's permission. Usually teams demand some form of compensation for that, usually draft picks. Turner's the OC for SF; Rivera's the DC for the Bears; Ryan is the DC for Baltimore; Singletary is the Asst Head Coach Defense (essentially DC) for SF. As a practical matter, those guys will either become the Chargers' head coach or will remain where they are. Please stop with the "Norv as OC and Rivera as head coach" nonsense. It's overwhelmingly likely that things won't happen that way.

It's my understanding that they can switch teams if they get a bigger title. So Rivera can go to Chargers if them make him the Assistant Head Coach - Defensive Coordinator.Am I misunderstanding that? I beleive there are many ways to skin a cat.

This is true.

That's what I thoughtTurner = Head Coach Ryan = Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Guru Sounds about right

 

[TeamDingo]

I thought AJ Smith wanting Ted Cottrell to be DC was the reason for Marty getting fired? Why would they now bring in someone else to be DC?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Ok, for God's sake stop making the mistake I keep seeing made here. Someone who is an offensive or defensive coordinator cannot move from one team to another and occupy the same position (essentially a "lateral move") without first getting their present team's permission. Usually teams demand some form of compensation for that, usually draft picks. Turner's the OC for SF; Rivera's the DC for the Bears; Ryan is the DC for Baltimore; Singletary is the Asst Head Coach Defense (essentially DC) for SF. As a practical matter, those guys will either become the Chargers' head coach or will remain where they are. Please stop with the "Norv as OC and Rivera as head coach" nonsense. It's overwhelmingly likely that things won't happen that way.

It's my understanding that they can switch teams if they get a bigger title. So Rivera can go to Chargers if them make him the Assistant Head Coach - Defensive Coordinator.Am I misunderstanding that?

Yes, you are misunderstanding. Assistant coaches can leave without their current team's permission only to become head coaches.For a coordinator to leave to be a coordinator somewhere else ("Asst. Head Coach" doesn't mean anything), he needs his current team to agree to let him out of his contract.The Chargers could hire Turner as HC, Mooch as OC, and Cottrell as DC -- but they cannot hire Rivera or Zimmer or Singletary or Turner or Ryan or any other current assistant coach to be anything other than head coach.

 

[perry147]

Ok, for God's sake stop making the mistake I keep seeing made here. Someone who is an offensive or defensive coordinator cannot move from one team to another and occupy the same position (essentially a "lateral move") without first getting their present team's permission. Usually teams demand some form of compensation for that, usually draft picks. Turner's the OC for SF; Rivera's the DC for the Bears; Ryan is the DC for Baltimore; Singletary is the Asst Head Coach Defense (essentially DC) for SF. As a practical matter, those guys will either become the Chargers' head coach or will remain where they are. Please stop with the "Norv as OC and Rivera as head coach" nonsense. It's overwhelmingly likely that things won't happen that way.

It's my understanding that they can switch teams if they get a bigger title. So Rivera can go to Chargers if them make him the Assistant Head Coach - Defensive Coordinator.Am I misunderstanding that?

Yes, you are misunderstanding. Assistant coaches can leave without their current team's permission only to become head coaches.For a coordinator to leave to be a coordinator somewhere else ("Asst. Head Coach" doesn't mean anything), he needs his current team to agree to let him out of his contract.The Chargers could hire Turner as HC, Mooch as OC, and Cottrell as DC -- but they cannot hire Rivera or Zimmer or Singletary or Turner or Ryan or any other current assistant coach to be anything other than head coach.

Find me a link for this.An OC and become and "OC - Assistant Head Coach" on another team.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Ok, for God's sake stop making the mistake I keep seeing made here. Someone who is an offensive or defensive coordinator cannot move from one team to another and occupy the same position (essentially a "lateral move") without first getting their present team's permission. Usually teams demand some form of compensation for that, usually draft picks.

Turner's the OC for SF; Rivera's the DC for the Bears; Ryan is the DC for Baltimore; Singletary is the Asst Head Coach Defense (essentially DC) for SF. As a practical matter, those guys will either become the Chargers' head coach or will remain where they are.

Please stop with the "Norv as OC and Rivera as head coach" nonsense. It's overwhelmingly likely that things won't happen that way.

It's my understanding that they can switch teams if they get a bigger title. So Rivera can go to Chargers if them make him the Assistant Head Coach - Defensive Coordinator.Am I misunderstanding that?

Yes, you are misunderstanding. Assistant coaches can leave without their current team's permission only to become head coaches.For a coordinator to leave to be a coordinator somewhere else ("Asst. Head Coach" doesn't mean anything), he needs his current team to agree to let him out of his contract.

The Chargers could hire Turner as HC, Mooch as OC, and Cottrell as DC -- but they cannot hire Rivera or Zimmer or Singletary or Turner or Ryan or any other current assistant coach to be anything other than head coach.

Find me a link for this.An OC and become and "OC - Assistant Head Coach" on another team.

http://cowboys.beloblog.com/archives/2007/...mething_up.htmlhttp://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07010/752517-66.stm

 

[Despyzer]

An OC and become and "OC - Assistant Head Coach" on another team.

The terminology on NFL staffs is very misleading. Assistant Head Coach is in no way a promotion over being a coordinator. Even if it was, what Redman and MT are saying is correct - assistants and coaches are only unfettered when it comes to achieving a head coaching position.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

I always look for my Chargers news on the other side of the country.

Two words: Pete Carroll.

Furthermore... The Chargers CAN hire Ron Rivera as their Defensive Coordinator if he's motivated to take the job. He's only under contract with the Bears for another week.

 

[Jason Wood]

Ok, for God's sake stop making the mistake I keep seeing made here. Someone who is an offensive or defensive coordinator cannot move from one team to another and occupy the same position (essentially a "lateral move") without first getting their present team's permission. Usually teams demand some form of compensation for that, usually draft picks. Turner's the OC for SF; Rivera's the DC for the Bears; Ryan is the DC for Baltimore; Singletary is the Asst Head Coach Defense (essentially DC) for SF. As a practical matter, those guys will either become the Chargers' head coach or will remain where they are. Please stop with the "Norv as OC and Rivera as head coach" nonsense. It's overwhelmingly likely that things won't happen that way.

It's my understanding that they can switch teams if they get a bigger title. So Rivera can go to Chargers if them make him the Assistant Head Coach - Defensive Coordinator.Am I misunderstanding that?

Yes, you are misunderstanding. Assistant coaches can leave without their current team's permission only to become head coaches.For a coordinator to leave to be a coordinator somewhere else ("Asst. Head Coach" doesn't mean anything), he needs his current team to agree to let him out of his contract.The Chargers could hire Turner as HC, Mooch as OC, and Cottrell as DC -- but they cannot hire Rivera or Zimmer or Singletary or Turner or Ryan or any other current assistant coach to be anything other than head coach.

MT,You're right save for one important nuance...Ron Rivera isn't under contract in Chicago. He's free to take any job he wants.I would be stunned if Rivera doesn't get this job, just my HO.

 

[switz]

Ok, for God's sake stop making the mistake I keep seeing made here. Someone who is an offensive or defensive coordinator cannot move from one team to another and occupy the same position (essentially a "lateral move") without first getting their present team's permission. Usually teams demand some form of compensation for that, usually draft picks. Turner's the OC for SF; Rivera's the DC for the Bears; Ryan is the DC for Baltimore; Singletary is the Asst Head Coach Defense (essentially DC) for SF. As a practical matter, those guys will either become the Chargers' head coach or will remain where they are. Please stop with the "Norv as OC and Rivera as head coach" nonsense. It's overwhelmingly likely that things won't happen that way.

It's my understanding that they can switch teams if they get a bigger title. So Rivera can go to Chargers if them make him the Assistant Head Coach - Defensive Coordinator.Am I misunderstanding that?

Yes, you are misunderstanding. Assistant coaches can leave without their current team's permission only to become head coaches.For a coordinator to leave to be a coordinator somewhere else ("Asst. Head Coach" doesn't mean anything), he needs his current team to agree to let him out of his contract.The Chargers could hire Turner as HC, Mooch as OC, and Cottrell as DC -- but they cannot hire Rivera or Zimmer or Singletary or Turner or Ryan or any other current assistant coach to be anything other than head coach.

MT,You're right save for one important nuance...Ron Rivera isn't under contract in Chicago. He's free to take any job he wants.I would be stunned if Rivera doesn't get this job, just my HO.

I'm hoping for Singletary, and don't think Rivera is HC material.

 

[DanFouts]

Ok, for God's sake stop making the mistake I keep seeing made here. Someone who is an offensive or defensive coordinator cannot move from one team to another and occupy the same position (essentially a "lateral move") without first getting their present team's permission. Usually teams demand some form of compensation for that, usually draft picks.

Turner's the OC for SF; Rivera's the DC for the Bears; Ryan is the DC for Baltimore; Singletary is the Asst Head Coach Defense (essentially DC) for SF. As a practical matter, those guys will either become the Chargers' head coach or will remain where they are.

Please stop with the "Norv as OC and Rivera as head coach" nonsense. It's overwhelmingly likely that things won't happen that way.

It's my understanding that they can switch teams if they get a bigger title. So Rivera can go to Chargers if them make him the Assistant Head Coach - Defensive Coordinator.Am I misunderstanding that?

Yes, you are misunderstanding. Assistant coaches can leave without their current team's permission only to become head coaches.For a coordinator to leave to be a coordinator somewhere else ("Asst. Head Coach" doesn't mean anything), he needs his current team to agree to let him out of his contract.

The Chargers could hire Turner as HC, Mooch as OC, and Cottrell as DC -- but they cannot hire Rivera or Zimmer or Singletary or Turner or Ryan or any other current assistant coach to be anything other than head coach.

MT,You're right save for one important nuance...Ron Rivera isn't under contract in Chicago. He's free to take any job he wants.

I would be stunned if Rivera doesn't get this job, just my HO.

Doesn't he run a 4-3.....that would be a mess IMHO to bring that to the bolts.....

 

[Jason Wood]

Chargers fans,

Putting aside the TIMING of the firing, are you really upset that Schottenheimer is gone? As Dodds so eloquently put it, the reason the Chargers were 14-2 and a contender was because Schottenheimer let his (very talented) assistants run the show.

Schott is good enough to build a contender, but you need a different jockey to get you into the winner's circle. Now, at least, you have a chance to get there.

 

[TheGreatest]

Here are some interesting rumors....

RUMORS SPREAD THAT CARROLL-TO-CHARGERS IS A DONE DEAL

There is increasing talk in league circles regarding suspicions that the San Diego Chargers already have a secret deal in place with USC coach Pete Carroll.

Folks are pointing to some of the same facts we outlined on Monday night, after word broke that Marty Schottenheimer had been fired. Some think that the most convincing proof was/is USC assistant Steve Sarkisian's abrupt about-face with the Raiders, followed days later by the decision of his former Trojan colleague, Lane Kiffin, to take the job.

Why else, the theory goes, would Kiffin take a job that Sarkisian didn't want unless they both knew that Carroll wasn't long for the USC gig, and that Sarkisian, not Kiffin, had been hand-picked to replace him?

Others are pointing to the fact that the first guy to be interviewed is Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, who has no head-coaching experience but who helps the Chargers satisfy the Rooney Rule quickly, in the event that the Pete Carroll cat gets out of the bag prematurely and none of the minority candidates agree to sit for the job. (See Detroit Lions and Steve Mariucci.)

We're also told that there is worry among the incoming class of USC recruits regarding the possibility that Carroll is leaving. But Pete has opted not to even address the situation publicly.

If he were not going to be the San Diego coach, he could easily say so. The fact that he has said nothing at all speaks volumes, in our view. Especially since he now has a couple dozen nervous high school seniors who signed papers seven days ago under the assumption that the head coach would be sticking around for at least the next month.

Stay tuned. We predict that the Chargers will go through the motions with several candidates, and that Carroll will then swoop in out of the blue as the guy.

If that happens, look for Pat Kirwan to soon follow him -- and for G.M. A.J. Smith to definitely get the boot after the draft.

POSTED 4:38 p.m. EST, February 14, 2007

SCHEFTER GIVES LIFE TO OUR SMITH PREDICTION

Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the San Diego Chargers might part ways with G.M. A.J. Smith after the April 2007 draft.

This reports meshes with our prediction that Smith will be let go for his role in the dysfunction that resulted in the termination of coach Marty Schottenheimer.

It also bolsters the mounting speculation that USC coach Pete Carroll is being, or has been, privately courted by the Chargers. Carroll most certainly would want final say over the roster, and if Smith couldn't get along with a head coach who didn't have final say, he'd never be able to work for one who does.

Still, if Carroll gets the job, the biggest challenge will be for him to hire a personnel guru who can do the job right. It's no coincidence that college coaches who have made the leap to the NFL in the post-salary cap era have struggled. It's one thing to recruit 25 blue-chippers every year and line 'em all up three deep on the depth chart. It's quite another to engage in the Peter-robbing, Paul-paying world of the NFL, where there are only so many quality players that can be signed without going over the total spending limit.

Though Carroll surely has Pat Kirwan on speed dial, Kirwan's specialty is cap and contracts. Besides, he has been out of the league for a while now. Carroll needs someone with the skills to find the right players at the right price, and then Carroll will be required to take that talent and coach it up in a way that will allow the team to overcome a playing field far more level than the raw talent gap Carroll has enjoyed in at least seven or eight games per year at USC.

 

[Jason Wood]

Ok, for God's sake stop making the mistake I keep seeing made here. Someone who is an offensive or defensive coordinator cannot move from one team to another and occupy the same position (essentially a "lateral move") without first getting their present team's permission. Usually teams demand some form of compensation for that, usually draft picks. Turner's the OC for SF; Rivera's the DC for the Bears; Ryan is the DC for Baltimore; Singletary is the Asst Head Coach Defense (essentially DC) for SF. As a practical matter, those guys will either become the Chargers' head coach or will remain where they are. Please stop with the "Norv as OC and Rivera as head coach" nonsense. It's overwhelmingly likely that things won't happen that way.

It's my understanding that they can switch teams if they get a bigger title. So Rivera can go to Chargers if them make him the Assistant Head Coach - Defensive Coordinator.Am I misunderstanding that?

Yes, you are misunderstanding. Assistant coaches can leave without their current team's permission only to become head coaches.For a coordinator to leave to be a coordinator somewhere else ("Asst. Head Coach" doesn't mean anything), he needs his current team to agree to let him out of his contract.The Chargers could hire Turner as HC, Mooch as OC, and Cottrell as DC -- but they cannot hire Rivera or Zimmer or Singletary or Turner or Ryan or any other current assistant coach to be anything other than head coach.

MT,You're right save for one important nuance...Ron Rivera isn't under contract in Chicago. He's free to take any job he wants.I would be stunned if Rivera doesn't get this job, just my HO.

I'm hoping for Singletary, and don't think Rivera is HC material.

Hey switz,I'm going to presume that you know Ron Rivera and Mike Singletary as well as I do. If you've actually met them or have a sense of their character, color me corrected. To that end, very curious why you think Ron Rivera isn't "HC Material" when all we really know of him is that he was highly respected member of the Eagles defensive staff and then became a young defensive coordinator who oversaw one of the league's best units the last few years. In Singletary, we know he was a great player [how many great players turn out to be great HCs by the way] who hasn't been a coordinator, has four years of professional coaching experience, and hasn't had a major role in a top-rated defense yet in his career.Help me out here...Oh, and let me say here what I've said countless times. The skills required to be a great head coach are vastly different than the skills it takes to be a good coordinator.

 

[switz]

Here are some interesting rumors....RUMORS SPREAD THAT CARROLL-TO-CHARGERS IS A DONE DEAL

This just isn't going to happen.

 

[Marauder]

MT,You're right save for one important nuance...Ron Rivera isn't under contract in Chicago. He's free to take any job he wants.I would be stunned if Rivera doesn't get this job, just my HO.

Just out of curiosity, why would Rivera want to leave the Bears for a DC position with another team. It seems like Chicago would be one of the best jobs in the league for a DC. Is it a money issue? Are the Bears that cheap?

 

[switz]

I'm hoping for Singletary, and don't think Rivera is HC material.

Hey switz,I'm going to presume that you know Ron Rivera and Mike Singletary as well as I do. If you've actually met them or have a sense of their character, color me corrected. To that end, very curious why you think Ron Rivera isn't "HC Material" when all we really know of him is that he was highly respected member of the Eagles defense staff and then became a young defensive coordinator who oversaw one of the league's best units the last few years. In Singletary, we know he was a great player [how many great players turn out to be great HCs by the way] who hasn't been a coordinator, has four years of professional coaching experience, and hasn't had a major role in a top-rated defense yet in his career.Help me out here...Oh, and let me say here what I've said countless times. The skills required to be a great head coach are vastly different than the skills it takes to be a good coordinator.

Here's my take. Both have solid credentials. Both are defensive sided coaches. Both are "minority" candidates.Singletary spent 10 years as a motivational speaker - one of the big differences between coordinating and HC is motivation. Coordinators and generally X and O guys, and HCs have the edge in knowing how to motivate people.I feel, so this is totally opinion, that Singletary, as a former player, commands more respect. He knows what it takes to win a SB, Rivera doesn't. I also felt Rivera's defense took a bit of a dive in the playoffs.As for former players being successful HCs - a short list Jauron, Dungy, Edwards off the top of my head. If I was going to expect a former player to be successful, it would be from MLB or TE, due to their required knowledge of the breadth of offensive and defensive schemes. Singletary fits that.I also feel Singletary would lean more on his coordinators, which I think iss a strong point for HCs. I'm not so sure Rivera would, just a hunch, but I think he'd want to install his own defense and watch over it.It's mostly intangibles... no stats or hard numbers to point to. Which makes it difficult to persuade others it's the right opinion. I'm fine with that.

 

[Jason Wood]

MT,You're right save for one important nuance...Ron Rivera isn't under contract in Chicago. He's free to take any job he wants.I would be stunned if Rivera doesn't get this job, just my HO.

Just out of curiosity, why would Rivera want to leave the Bears for a DC position with another team. It seems like Chicago would be one of the best jobs in the league for a DC. Is it a money issue? Are the Bears that cheap?

Hey Marauder, There are lots of reasons I can think of and they would all be speculative since we have no way of knowing what Rivera's thinking or how his relationship is with the Bears organization. Obviously, he very much wants to be a head coach and if history is any indication, he'll get his chance in the next year or two. On the other hand, the Bears are notoriously cheap when it comes to compensation and he certainly could get a much larger package from someone like Dallas if he were willing. There could be personality conflicts with Lovie, there could be conflicts with Angelo, OR things could actually be great and Rivera just thinks his road to being a head coach would be better served by proving his mettle as a DC in multiple systems/teams.Remember that Marvin Lewis got his chance after he was in Washington, despite a sterling effort as the Ravens defensive architect. I'm betting Rivera remains in Chicago with a fairly decent new deal IF he doesn't get the Chargers HC job.

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm hoping for Singletary, and don't think Rivera is HC material.

Hey switz,I'm going to presume that you know Ron Rivera and Mike Singletary as well as I do. If you've actually met them or have a sense of their character, color me corrected. To that end, very curious why you think Ron Rivera isn't "HC Material" when all we really know of him is that he was highly respected member of the Eagles defense staff and then became a young defensive coordinator who oversaw one of the league's best units the last few years. In Singletary, we know he was a great player [how many great players turn out to be great HCs by the way] who hasn't been a coordinator, has four years of professional coaching experience, and hasn't had a major role in a top-rated defense yet in his career.Help me out here...Oh, and let me say here what I've said countless times. The skills required to be a great head coach are vastly different than the skills it takes to be a good coordinator.

Here's my take. Both have solid credentials. Both are defensive sided coaches. Both are "minority" candidates.Singletary spent 10 years as a motivational speaker - one of the big differences between coordinating and HC is motivation. Coordinators and generally X and O guys, and HCs have the edge in knowing how to motivate people.I feel, so this is totally opinion, that Singletary, as a former player, commands more respect. He knows what it takes to win a SB, Rivera doesn't. I also felt Rivera's defense took a bit of a dive in the playoffs.As for former players being successful HCs - a short list Jauron, Dungy, Edwards off the top of my head. If I was going to expect a former player to be successful, it would be from MLB or TE, due to their required knowledge of the breadth of offensive and defensive schemes. Singletary fits that.I also feel Singletary would lean more on his coordinators, which I think iss a strong point for HCs. I'm not so sure Rivera would, just a hunch, but I think he'd want to install his own defense and watch over it.It's mostly intangibles... no stats or hard numbers to point to. Which makes it difficult to persuade others it's the right opinion. I'm fine with that.

You do realize Ron Rivera played in the NFL for nine years, right? He was on the 85 Super Bowl team, was a 2nd round pick, and played linebacker in Chitown for nearly a decade.

 

[Despyzer]

Chargers fans,Putting aside the TIMING of the firing, are you really upset that Schottenheimer is gone?

I'm not, and I haven't heard of many that are. I appreciate what Shotty did for the team; he helped turn around the environment of losing to one of winning. But it's time the team moved on without him. I wish him well in whatever is in store for him next.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Here are some interesting rumors....RUMORS SPREAD THAT CARROLL-TO-CHARGERS IS A DONE DEAL

This just isn't going to happen.

I'd be totally shocked if this happened. #1, that he'd leave a dream setup in USC.#2, that he'd go to SD. Just don't see it.Although to be fair, I didn't think Saban would go to Alabama. He left a good NFL gig for a very suspect "management" situation in the backroom deals and power brokers of the powers that be there. But he did it. So nothing is impossible. I'd just be really surprised. Even more than I was with Saban.J

 

[redman]

Here are some interesting rumors....RUMORS SPREAD THAT CARROLL-TO-CHARGERS IS A DONE DEAL

This just isn't going to happen.

I'd be totally shocked if this happened. #1, that he'd leave a dream setup in USC.#2, that he'd go to SD. Just don't see it.Although to be fair, I didn't think Saban would go to Alabama. He left a good NFL gig for a very suspect "management" situation in the backroom deals and power brokers of the powers that be there. But he did it. So nothing is impossible. I'd just be really surprised. Even more than I was with Saban.J

I would tend to agree, Joe. I'd only point out that Saban had some reasons for leaving Miami, including that his rebuilding project seemed to go farther backwards than forwards because of the QB situation, and because he has made it clear that he prefers college to the NFL. I don't think we'll ever see Saban back as a head coach in the NFL. Carroll is already in the college situation that he's obviously most suited for. While you can never really account for the irrational effect of professional ego upon these decisions, I have trouble imagining him departing a choice college gig for a team owned by the Spanoses and run by Smith, however talented it is. By firing Schotty Smith and Spanos essentially were giving more credit to Smith for the success of the team than to Schotty. How much glory can Carroll expect to reap even if he wins it all with Smith sitting in the background smirking about the team that he built?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Here are some interesting rumors....RUMORS SPREAD THAT CARROLL-TO-CHARGERS IS A DONE DEAL

This just isn't going to happen.

I'd be totally shocked if this happened. #1, that he'd leave a dream setup in USC.#2, that he'd go to SD. Just don't see it.Although to be fair, I didn't think Saban would go to Alabama. He left a good NFL gig for a very suspect "management" situation in the backroom deals and power brokers of the powers that be there. But he did it. So nothing is impossible. I'd just be really surprised. Even more than I was with Saban.J

I would tend to agree, Joe. I'd only point out that Saban had some reasons for leaving Miami, including that his rebuilding project seemed to go farther backwards than forwards because of the QB situation, and because he has made it clear that he prefers college to the NFL. I don't think we'll ever see Saban back as a head coach in the NFL. Carroll is already in the college situation that he's obviously most suited for. While you can never really account for the irrational effect of professional ego upon these decisions, I have trouble imagining him departing a choice college gig for a team owned by the Spanoses and run by Smith, however talented it is. By firing Schotty Smith and Spanos essentially were giving more credit to Smith for the success of the team than to Schotty. How much glory can Carroll expect to reap even if he wins it all with Smith sitting in the background smirking about the team that he built?

Redman.J

 

[perry147]

Chargers fans,Putting aside the TIMING of the firing, are you really upset that Schottenheimer is gone?

I'm not, and I haven't heard of many that are. I appreciate what Shotty did for the team; he helped turn around the environment of losing to one of winning. But it's time the team moved on without him. I wish him well in whatever is in store for him next.

If you would have asked the Cleveland fans the same thing when he was fired from there many would have said the same thing. But have the Browns even been as good since he has left?

 

[switz]

You do realize Ron Rivera played in the NFL for nine years, right? He was on the 85 Super Bowl team, was a 2nd round pick, and played linebacker in Chitown for nearly a decade.

Yeah, I guess I viewed his role being less leadership than Singletary. Afterall he spent most of his career as a backup, and was not a starter on the SB team either.

 

[jonessed]

Chargers fans,Putting aside the TIMING of the firing, are you really upset that Schottenheimer is gone? As Dodds so eloquently put it, the reason the Chargers were 14-2 and a contender was because Schottenheimer let his (very talented) assistants run the show.Schott is good enough to build a contender, but you need a different jockey to get you into the winner's circle. Now, at least, you have a chance to get there.

Given the circumstances, not really. I thought he made a big stride this year in delegating playcalling to the respective coaches and he deserved another chance, but since they are gone all bets are off. His playcalling style is way too conservative.Wade was really the big loss. No matter who else left, if Wade had remained, I don't think Marty gets fired

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Pretty cool Mike Singletary video here: link.