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[RestoreTheROAR]

This isnt training camp news, but i didnt want to make a whole thread for it. Just talks about Cromartie & his decision to turn pro and what he had to face, just thought some of you guys would enjoy it

http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a.../708030341/1026

 

[Banger]

Another day of TC and C. Davis seems universally to be the star again. Here's one posters observations....Craig Davis was a highlight reel all day. The fans have really embraced him, and cheered loudly after every catch he made. A great overall athlete, he can jump, catch, run, and dart around. He is going to be an awesome run after the catch guy. He had a catch in the endzone (Rivers, in a desperation-type play, lobs the ball up into the endzone) that was simply spectacular. Davis was standing in the endzone and jump straight up into the air. He out jumped the entire defense, and seemed to float in the air for a second. catching the ball at his highest point, Davis came down and secured the catch. The crowd exploded after witnessing that play. Coach Turner has said that Davis is going to be a factor on offense, and I believe him. With the punt return job still up for grabs, Davis could get the nod there as well.

 

[DanFouts]

From PFW....

Rookie S Eric Weddle and second-year CB Antonio Cromartie have opened eyes in San Diego’s secondary during training camp, but odds remain on Clinton Hart and Drayton Florence to own the respective starting jobs when the regular season opens. Weddle has impressed coaches with his range, instincts and reaction time in terms of breaking on the ball, but Hart is considered the favorite among team insiders. Florence’s job may be relinquished to the talented Cromartie before long, but Florence’s consistency keeps him ahead for now. There is no competition, however, at the two ILB spots vacated by the departures of Donnie Edwards and Randall Godfrey, where Stephen Cooper and Matt Wilhelm have secured long-awaited starting roles. When the Chargers move to their dime defense, it’s Wilhelm who will man the middle of the 4-1-6 alignment, a role in which Edwards excelled with the Chargers.

 

[Gr00vus]

I want to go on record now that I think the Chargers offense is in for a huge year, and that Phil is going to have a very big season - to the tune of many in the NFL not knowing what hit them.

Gates to get even better?

Chargers look to get Gates more involved

By Kevin Acee

UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

August 7, 2007

K.C. ALFRED / Union-Tribune

It is a regular sight this training camp. Whether they connect on a perfectly executed sideline route, have a pass over the middle blown up or don't even get a throw off, Antonio Gates and Philip Rivers will often confer after a play.

“Just to see if he's seeing what I saw,” Gates said. “ . . . Just little things that will make us grow.”

It is these subtle machinations that demonstrate the objective for Gates to be more integral to the Chargers offense than he was last season.

Gates is a different creature to throw to, and Rivers is in better grasp of that than in 2006.

“With a year under my belt it can be more of an understanding,” Rivers said. “A couple times (last season) I came off him too soon, trying to be too careful, play by the textbook. I could have maybe cut loose a couple times. He could have caught it. That comes with experience.”

In his first season as a starter, Rivers often found comfort in Gates the same way Drew Brees had before him. But Rivers and Gates did not hook up as often in 2006 as they might have.

“Sometimes I felt like I was in position to get the ball and I wasn't getting it,” Gates said during the offseason.

There were times, in fact, where it appeared Gates was invisible. He finished the season with 71 receptions for 924 yards and nine touchdowns. Those were all team highs, but they were not as prolific as either of his previous two All-Pro seasons.

On three different Sundays, he caught just two passes. On Dec. 17 against Kansas City, he caught one pass for seven yards. He went four games without a touchdown in the middle of the season, twice as long as he had gone in either of the previous two seasons.

Still, last season did nothing to diminish Gates' stature as one of the best pass-catching tight ends ever. No tight end has ever come close to Gates' 32 touchdowns in a three-year span, and only three (the elder Kellen Winslow, Tony Gonzalez and Todd Christensen) have had more yards over three seasons than Gates' 2,989 since 2004. Gates and Gonzalez are the only tight ends to put together three straight 900-yard seasons.

Over the past three seasons, too, only receivers Marvin Harrison (39) of Indianapolis and Terrell Owens (33) of Dallas have more touchdowns than Gates' 32.

Norv Turner smiled when asked about the possibility Gates could be more integral to the Chargers' attack.

“I don't know how he can be more a part in terms of his production,” the Chargers' new coach said. “But the one thing that is very, very important to me is that we try to not go long stretches that our guys that handle the ball (aren't) involved. Sometimes it's by design of the defense, but we're trying to create enough situations where we want to get Antonio involved in every game and having some catches early and let him be part of it.”

Gates is getting better, for sure. Even three-time Pro Bowlers can improve.

He is leaner, more muscular and about 253 pounds, down from his listed weight of 260.

And under Turner, Gates is learning things he hadn't even fathomed before.

He is running quicker routes and longer routes and routes that turn in ways he did not turn them before.

“The sixes, the eights, the zeroes, the nine – those are routes a lot of teams haven't seen me run,” Gates said.

And the thing about Gates is, he won't just run them. He is trying to run them like a receiver – consistent and smooth. So gifted is he at somehow hanging midair and hauling down passes in traffic, it often appears his production is effortless. It isn't.

“I'm doing it, and I want to do it where I can get a feel for how to run it,” Gates said. “Some people can run it and run it fast, but they don't really run it right. It ain't how fast you run it. It's running it and getting open. I've learned a lot being around veteran receivers like Eric Parker and Keenan McCardell. They know how to get open.”

New tight ends coach Clancy Barone observed: “With as great as he's been, he'll get a lot better, because he works so hard at it.”

Additionally, being in this offense helps everyone in it. One tweak by Turner is having plays in which Gates and LaDainian Tomlinson run routes on the same side.

“When the two of those guys are in close range of each other it's hard to double both of them,” Turner said. “It should give us the opportunity to get both of them the ball.”

But perhaps most of all, the on-field accord between Gates and Rivers will make a difference.

With Gates' size and athleticism and the way he seems to almost always get the advantageous position on a defender (or defenders), there is no black and white for Rivers with him.

“A lot of his routes are different than your average wide receiver,” Rivers said. “A lot of things with him it's a feel. . . . A lot of his body positions, I can't say, 'Oh, he's covered.' Some guys you'd say he's covered, but (Gates) might be open.”

Rivers and Gates say over and over their rapport will come with experience.

“You have to go through that process,” Gates said. “It's part of timing and continuity. When you have a guy throwing and a guy catching, you have to get on the same page. That's why all the great ones you see – Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning, (Joe) Montana and Jerry Rice – they had that continuity and that timing and that communication.”

Kevin Acee: (619) 293-1857; kevin.acee@uniontrib.com

 

[Banger]

Weddle, the Chargers' 2nd rounder that they moved up to get, is having a very solid camp. He started a little slow but seems to be getting better each practice. He's got a very difficult job in having to cover the best TE in the game but from reports has been doing it fairly well (especially for a rookie), he's thrown some big hits and his best attribute seems to be his closing speed/anticipation.

Looks like AJ may have found another solid player.

 

[DanFouts]

Weddle, the Chargers' 2nd rounder that they moved up to get, is having a very solid camp. He started a little slow but seems to be getting better each practice. He's got a very difficult job in having to cover the best TE in the game but from reports has been doing it fairly well (especially for a rookie), he's thrown some big hits and his best attribute seems to be his closing speed/anticipation.

Looks like AJ may have found another solid player.

I heard he laid out VJ and has been improving his coverage on Gates. I don't think he starts over Hart until mid season, but they will use him in a couple of packages at least.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Weddle, the Chargers' 2nd rounder that they moved up to get, is having a very solid camp. He started a little slow but seems to be getting better each practice. He's got a very difficult job in having to cover the best TE in the game but from reports has been doing it fairly well (especially for a rookie), he's thrown some big hits and his best attribute seems to be his closing speed/anticipation.

Looks like AJ may have found another solid player.

I heard he laid out VJ and has been improving his coverage on Gates. I don't think he starts over Hart until mid season, but they will use him in a couple of packages at least.

I kinda herd, he's starting in the nickel for sure

 

[Gr00vus]

Weddle, the Chargers' 2nd rounder that they moved up to get, is having a very solid camp. He started a little slow but seems to be getting better each practice. He's got a very difficult job in having to cover the best TE in the game but from reports has been doing it fairly well (especially for a rookie), he's thrown some big hits and his best attribute seems to be his closing speed/anticipation.

Looks like AJ may have found another solid player.

I heard he laid out VJ and has been improving his coverage on Gates. I don't think he starts over Hart until mid season, but they will use him in a couple of packages at least.

I kinda herd, he's starting in the nickel for sure

I thought it was dime - Cromartie gets nickel.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Weddle, the Chargers' 2nd rounder that they moved up to get, is having a very solid camp. He started a little slow but seems to be getting better each practice. He's got a very difficult job in having to cover the best TE in the game but from reports has been doing it fairly well (especially for a rookie), he's thrown some big hits and his best attribute seems to be his closing speed/anticipation.

Looks like AJ may have found another solid player.

I heard he laid out VJ and has been improving his coverage on Gates. I don't think he starts over Hart until mid season, but they will use him in a couple of packages at least.

I kinda herd, he's starting in the nickel for sure

I thought it was dime - Cromartie gets nickel.

ah maybe your right, nickel dime quarter

 

[Gr00vus]

Weddle, the Chargers' 2nd rounder that they moved up to get, is having a very solid camp. He started a little slow but seems to be getting better each practice. He's got a very difficult job in having to cover the best TE in the game but from reports has been doing it fairly well (especially for a rookie), he's thrown some big hits and his best attribute seems to be his closing speed/anticipation.

Looks like AJ may have found another solid player.

I heard he laid out VJ and has been improving his coverage on Gates. I don't think he starts over Hart until mid season, but they will use him in a couple of packages at least.

I kinda herd, he's starting in the nickel for sure

I thought it was dime - Cromartie gets nickel.

ah maybe your right, nickel dime quarter

Regardless I think 2007 secondary >>> 2006 secondary. Problems is we still have Quentin "Toast" Jammer out there.

Anyone going to the game Sunday?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Weddle, the Chargers' 2nd rounder that they moved up to get, is having a very solid camp. He started a little slow but seems to be getting better each practice. He's got a very difficult job in having to cover the best TE in the game but from reports has been doing it fairly well (especially for a rookie), he's thrown some big hits and his best attribute seems to be his closing speed/anticipation.

Looks like AJ may have found another solid player.

I heard he laid out VJ and has been improving his coverage on Gates. I don't think he starts over Hart until mid season, but they will use him in a couple of packages at least.

I kinda herd, he's starting in the nickel for sure

I thought it was dime - Cromartie gets nickel.

ah maybe your right, nickel dime quarter

Regardless I think 2007 secondary >>> 2006 secondary. Problems is we still have Quentin "Toast" Jammer out there.

Anyone going to the game Sunday?

Im with you here.I think letting headbutt florence go next year might be the wrong move.

Cromartie/Jammer starting next year with Oliver as the nickel.

Hopefully Weddle supplants Hart soon.

 

[Gr00vus]

Im with you here.I think letting headbutt florence go next year might be the wrong move. Cromartie/Jammer starting next year with Oliver as the nickel.Hopefully Weddle supplants Hart soon.

My thoughts exactly. Problem is Jammer's contract. I think if anything, that was a screw up by A.J. I wonder if he'll be open enough to correct it somehow IF Florence outplays Jammer this year. I just don't know how you get out of that contract though.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

Weddle, the Chargers' 2nd rounder that they moved up to get, is having a very solid camp. He started a little slow but seems to be getting better each practice. He's got a very difficult job in having to cover the best TE in the game but from reports has been doing it fairly well (especially for a rookie), he's thrown some big hits and his best attribute seems to be his closing speed/anticipation.

Looks like AJ may have found another solid player.

I heard he laid out VJ and has been improving his coverage on Gates. I don't think he starts over Hart until mid season, but they will use him in a couple of packages at least.

I kinda herd, he's starting in the nickel for sure

I thought it was dime - Cromartie gets nickel.

ah maybe your right, nickel dime quarter

Regardless I think 2007 secondary >>> 2006 secondary. Problems is we still have Quentin "Toast" Jammer out there.

Anyone going to the game Sunday?

I'll be there. I always have the idea that I will put together some good game reports, but sadly this thing called beer gets in the way. The game is officially a sellout though, so no blackout for the locals who dont have tickets.

 

[Gr00vus]

I'll be there. I always have the idea that I will put together some good game reports, but sadly this thing called beer gets in the way. The game is officially a sellout though, so no blackout for the locals who dont have tickets.

I'll be watching on t.v. but it's always better to be there. Goggle hard my man!I'll be interested to see Gross run some more. Also hopefully to get a good look at the rookie TE, Naanee and Camarillo. I wonder how much time Wilhelm and Cooper will get.

 

[DanFouts]

Things I'd like to see this second pre-season game....

1. Less penalties from first string. They actually moved ball pretty well against Hawks, but self destructed on those First half drives.

2. Let Weddle start versus the Rams and see how he works it.

3. Let Cro start too

4. I got a feeling Merriman isn't pushing too hard in the pre-season to save himself. Never saw him going full throttle to get Hasselback. Would like one sack on Bulger.

5. More Buster Davis and VJ in the first drive. Floyd is Meh IMHO...(too hit and miss)

 

[Gr00vus]

Things I'd like to see this second pre-season game....

1. No injuries2. Catch/take care of the football3. Less/No stupid penalties4. Better secondary coverage

 

[Gr00vus]

2. Catch/take care of the football

3. Less/No stupid penalties

From today's Union Trib

Miscues result in more practice

By Kevin Acee

UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

August 14, 2007

The three miscues by Chargers receivers in Sunday's preseason opener were especially glaring because the spotlight was already on them and because the botched plays came in succession.

The mishandling of the ball on an end-around by Craig Davis, the dropped pass by Malcom Floyd and the fumble by Vincent Jackson on consecutive first-quarter plays were unacceptable to the Chargers. And receivers coach James Lofton could be seen making that clear on the sideline.

Yesterday, head coach Norv Turner issued a challenge of sorts to his young receivers, who need more consistent work than they have been getting.

“We've had a situation where our receivers, for good reasons in most cases, have had to miss some time with nagging injuries,” Turner said. “We did not get the consistency we need to get from our receivers. I don't think we will get it until we can get them on the field every down. There is going to be a real emphasis the next few days for them being able to be on the field and practice. That's the way we're going to get the progress from those guys as we go through the next month.”

Work it Norv!!!Also of particular interest:

The Chargers' primary receivers this season figure to be Jackson (third season), Davis (rookie), Floyd (third season) and Legedu Naanee (rookie).

It's early but Davis is being listed second here. I liked what I saw of him on Sunday, the Chargers really were running plays to specifically get him the ball too. He could end up being #1 when it's all said and done. Madden seemed to like him as well if that's worth anything.And it looks like Naanee is indeed going to make the roster, I figured he would after seeing him Sunday. The news to me is he's projected at #4 already. He'd probably slide to 5 when Parker gets back, unless he continues playing like he did Sunday throughout the season - he looks like quality, really nice hands so far, so maybe he'll stick at 4 if he can make the plays Parker was making and give them more explosiveness and strength. I figure he'll get lots of special teams work as well. If you're in dynasty keep an eye on this guy, maybe stash him late if you have large rosters.

 

[DanFouts]

2. Catch/take care of the football

3. Less/No stupid penalties

From today's Union Trib

Miscues result in more practice

By Kevin Acee

UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

August 14, 2007

The three miscues by Chargers receivers in Sunday's preseason opener were especially glaring because the spotlight was already on them and because the botched plays came in succession.

The mishandling of the ball on an end-around by Craig Davis, the dropped pass by Malcom Floyd and the fumble by Vincent Jackson on consecutive first-quarter plays were unacceptable to the Chargers. And receivers coach James Lofton could be seen making that clear on the sideline.

Yesterday, head coach Norv Turner issued a challenge of sorts to his young receivers, who need more consistent work than they have been getting.

“We've had a situation where our receivers, for good reasons in most cases, have had to miss some time with nagging injuries,” Turner said. “We did not get the consistency we need to get from our receivers. I don't think we will get it until we can get them on the field every down. There is going to be a real emphasis the next few days for them being able to be on the field and practice. That's the way we're going to get the progress from those guys as we go through the next month.”

Work it Norv!!!Also of particular interest:

The Chargers' primary receivers this season figure to be Jackson (third season), Davis (rookie), Floyd (third season) and Legedu Naanee (rookie).

It's early but Davis is being listed second here. I liked what I saw of him on Sunday, the Chargers really were running plays to specifically get him the ball too. He could end up being #1 when it's all said and done. Madden seemed to like him as well if that's worth anything.And it looks like Naanee is indeed going to make the roster, I figured he would after seeing him Sunday. The news to me is he's projected at #4 already. He'd probably slide to 5 when Parker gets back, unless he continues playing like he did Sunday throughout the season - he looks like quality, really nice hands so far, so maybe he'll stick at 4 if he can make the plays Parker was making and give them more explosiveness and strength. I figure he'll get lots of special teams work as well. If you're in dynasty keep an eye on this guy, maybe stash him late if you have large rosters.

I really liked Naanee. He was damn quick, had great hands, and some nice moves. For some reason, he reminded me of a big Ronnie Harmon.....

 

[Banger]

It's early but Davis is being listed second here. I liked what I saw of him on Sunday, the Chargers really were running plays to specifically get him the ball too. He could end up being #1 when it's all said and done. Madden seemed to like him as well if that's worth anything.

I agree totally. In reality what has VJax done to think that he's definitely going to be the #1 wr. Yes, he's had time in the system, is a good athlete and should take the next step but it will all come down to who makes plays and can stay on the field. It's all wide open at this point and I'm targetting Davis with my last picks in nearly all my drafts. If he doesn't do anything, no big deal you drop him and pickup someone else in week 3-4. He's been great so far in camp, has good physical skills, plays on a great offense and he'll NEVER be double teamed.

 

[Gr00vus]

It's early but Davis is being listed second here. I liked what I saw of him on Sunday, the Chargers really were running plays to specifically get him the ball too. He could end up being #1 when it's all said and done. Madden seemed to like him as well if that's worth anything.

I agree totally. In reality what has VJax done to think that he's definitely going to be the #1 wr. Yes, he's had time in the system, is a good athlete and should take the next step but it will all come down to who makes plays and can stay on the field. It's all wide open at this point and I'm targetting Davis with my last picks in nearly all my drafts. If he doesn't do anything, no big deal you drop him and pickup someone else in week 3-4. He's been great so far in camp, has good physical skills, plays on a great offense and he'll NEVER be double teamed.

Well they've pretty much named him #1 as of now, and he's running the #1 routes, but yeah, at this point I'd take Davis over Vinnie. Vinnie needs to hang on to the ball and finish plays - it looks like Davis already has that covered and has a dynamic aspect to his game above and beyond the other receivers. I think Davis will be open quite a bit - play action with a subsequent throw to Davis could be killer. I'll need to see more preseason here to verify this impression. Norv said the starters are going the full first half this week against the Rams, so I'll definitely need to catch that somehow.Problem is I'm getting too long a list of sleeper WRs. Maybe I'll just draft six straight running backs to kick off my drafts.....One other thing I wanted to mention is that Rivers looks hella sharp. I think he's in for a huge season.

 

[DanFouts]

Post Game....only saw a few clips as they showed the Redskins here instead...

1. Jackson looked better. Learned how to drop his foot in (unlike vs the Pats last year)...

2. S Philips will get close to as many sacks as Merriman this year

3. Corners still need a little work

4. Cro is SUPER FAST

5. Sproles makes the team with that play

6. Gates is unstoppable and even better when LT returns

7. M Turner is top 10 back next year

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

1. Jackson looked better. Learned how to drop his foot in (unlike vs the Pats last year)...

The jury is still out on that one. His second foot did not come down in bounds, but it was complete because he was pushed out.

 

[DanFouts]

1. Jackson looked better. Learned how to drop his foot in (unlike vs the Pats last year)...

The jury is still out on that one. His second foot did not come down in bounds, but it was complete because he was pushed out.

Ooops...thanks for the clarification. Maybe he still has that problem!Also, I didn't see Naanee...I was all high on him last week.

 

[tommyGunZ]

4. Cro is SUPER FAST

I'm on the Cro bandwagon - I think the guy is going to be a great one. He has to be one of the fastest 5 players in the NFL.

 

[Banger]

4. Cro is SUPER FAST

I'm on the Cro bandwagon - I think the guy is going to be a great one. He has to be one of the fastest 5 players in the NFL.

Weddle looks like a keeper as well. I'm wondering how long they are going to be able to keep him out of the lineup. He's got a nose for the ball.

 

[tommyGunZ]

4. Cro is SUPER FAST

I'm on the Cro bandwagon - I think the guy is going to be a great one. He has to be one of the fastest 5 players in the NFL.

Weddle looks like a keeper as well. I'm wondering how long they are going to be able to keep him out of the lineup. He's got a nose for the ball.

Yep. He's gonna be a fan favorite as well. There will be tons of #32 jerseys in San Diego over the next few years.AJ Smith is absolutely on FIRE.

 

[Banger]

4. Cro is SUPER FAST

I'm on the Cro bandwagon - I think the guy is going to be a great one. He has to be one of the fastest 5 players in the NFL.

Weddle looks like a keeper as well. I'm wondering how long they are going to be able to keep him out of the lineup. He's got a nose for the ball.

Yep. He's gonna be a fan favorite as well. There will be tons of #32 jerseys in San Diego over the next few years.AJ Smith is absolutely on FIRE.

He really is...between he and C. Davis is looks like they've added two guys that could potentially start this year on a team with very few open spots.

 

[Banger]

4. Cro is SUPER FAST

I'm on the Cro bandwagon - I think the guy is going to be a great one. He has to be one of the fastest 5 players in the NFL.

Weddle looks like a keeper as well. I'm wondering how long they are going to be able to keep him out of the lineup. He's got a nose for the ball.

Weddle with 2 more picks in the preseason finale. His total of 3 leads all players in the preseason along with 15 tackles. Hart has had a good preseason as well but Weddle will be tough to keep off the field as the season goes on IMO.

 

[Gr00vus]

4. Cro is SUPER FAST

I'm on the Cro bandwagon - I think the guy is going to be a great one. He has to be one of the fastest 5 players in the NFL.

Weddle looks like a keeper as well. I'm wondering how long they are going to be able to keep him out of the lineup. He's got a nose for the ball.

Weddle with 2 more picks in the preseason finale. His total of 3 leads all players in the preseason along with 15 tackles. Hart has had a good preseason as well but Weddle will be tough to keep off the field as the season goes on IMO.

Weddle has really come along this preseason, he was running the D out there last night. Hart's been o.k. too. Tough decision for the coaches, but those are the good kind of decisions.Think they'll release Jue and keep one of the younger, cheaper guys?Roach looked good out there last night, he's got a saftey's number, but I think he was playing LB. He's on the bubble, but I hope they find a way to keep him.

 

[jonessed]

4. Cro is SUPER FAST

I'm on the Cro bandwagon - I think the guy is going to be a great one. He has to be one of the fastest 5 players in the NFL.

Weddle looks like a keeper as well. I'm wondering how long they are going to be able to keep him out of the lineup. He's got a nose for the ball.

Weddle with 2 more picks in the preseason finale. His total of 3 leads all players in the preseason along with 15 tackles. Hart has had a good preseason as well but Weddle will be tough to keep off the field as the season goes on IMO.

Weddle will be the starter before the year's up. I like Hart, but the team needs a ballhawk and Hart isn't it.

 

[Banger]

4. Cro is SUPER FAST

I'm on the Cro bandwagon - I think the guy is going to be a great one. He has to be one of the fastest 5 players in the NFL.

Weddle looks like a keeper as well. I'm wondering how long they are going to be able to keep him out of the lineup. He's got a nose for the ball.

Weddle with 2 more picks in the preseason finale. His total of 3 leads all players in the preseason along with 15 tackles. Hart has had a good preseason as well but Weddle will be tough to keep off the field as the season goes on IMO.

Weddle has really come along this preseason, he was running the D out there last night. Hart's been o.k. too. Tough decision for the coaches, but those are the good kind of decisions.Think they'll release Jue and keep one of the younger, cheaper guys?Roach looked good out there last night, he's got a saftey's number, but I think he was playing LB. He's on the bubble, but I hope they find a way to keep him.

I doubt they release Jue but they've got some tough decisions to make. They have some tough decisions to make LB wise, Siler probably gets a spot, Roach don't know. They probably IR Waters this year.

 

[tommyGunZ]

4. Cro is SUPER FAST

I'm on the Cro bandwagon - I think the guy is going to be a great one. He has to be one of the fastest 5 players in the NFL.

Weddle looks like a keeper as well. I'm wondering how long they are going to be able to keep him out of the lineup. He's got a nose for the ball.

Weddle with 2 more picks in the preseason finale. His total of 3 leads all players in the preseason along with 15 tackles. Hart has had a good preseason as well but Weddle will be tough to keep off the field as the season goes on IMO.

Weddle has really come along this preseason, he was running the D out there last night. Hart's been o.k. too. Tough decision for the coaches, but those are the good kind of decisions.Think they'll release Jue and keep one of the younger, cheaper guys?

Roach looked good out there last night, he's got a saftey's number, but I think he was playing LB. He's on the bubble, but I hope they find a way to keep him.

I doubt they release Jue but they've got some tough decisions to make. They have some tough decisions to make LB wise, Siler probably gets a spot, Roach don't know. They probably IR Waters this year.

Yeah, IR'ing Waters is the move. And I agree that they keep Jue. A couple of turned ankles in the defensive backfield and things can get thin quickly back there. Gotta keep Jue for insurance.

 

[Banger]

4. Cro is SUPER FAST

I'm on the Cro bandwagon - I think the guy is going to be a great one. He has to be one of the fastest 5 players in the NFL.

Weddle looks like a keeper as well. I'm wondering how long they are going to be able to keep him out of the lineup. He's got a nose for the ball.

Weddle with 2 more picks in the preseason finale. His total of 3 leads all players in the preseason along with 15 tackles. Hart has had a good preseason as well but Weddle will be tough to keep off the field as the season goes on IMO.

Weddle has really come along this preseason, he was running the D out there last night. Hart's been o.k. too. Tough decision for the coaches, but those are the good kind of decisions.Think they'll release Jue and keep one of the younger, cheaper guys?

Roach looked good out there last night, he's got a saftey's number, but I think he was playing LB. He's on the bubble, but I hope they find a way to keep him.

I doubt they release Jue but they've got some tough decisions to make. They have some tough decisions to make LB wise, Siler probably gets a spot, Roach don't know. They probably IR Waters this year.

Yeah, IR'ing Waters is the move. And I agree that they keep Jue. A couple of turned ankles in the defensive backfield and things can get thin quickly back there. Gotta keep Jue for insurance.

What do you think about Chandler? I thought he was a lock early on but now I'm thinking they may practice squad him and maybe have the jack of all trades Nanee as roster insurance.

 

[Gr00vus]

I doubt they release Jue but they've got some tough decisions to make. They have some tough decisions to make LB wise, Siler probably gets a spot, Roach don't know. They probably IR Waters this year.

Yeah, IR'ing Waters is the move. And I agree that they keep Jue. A couple of turned ankles in the defensive backfield and things can get thin quickly back there. Gotta keep Jue for insurance.

What do you think about Chandler? I thought he was a lock early on but now I'm thinking they may practice squad him and maybe have the jack of all trades Nanee as roster insurance.

I think both make the roster. It sounded like all the drafted rookies this year are going to make the team if they aren't injured.

 

[-OZ-]

And it looks like Naanee is indeed going to make the roster, I figured he would after seeing him Sunday. The news to me is he's projected at #4 already. He'd probably slide to 5 when Parker gets back, unless he continues playing like he did Sunday throughout the season - he looks like quality, really nice hands so far, so maybe he'll stick at 4 if he can make the plays Parker was making and give them more explosiveness and strength. I figure he'll get lots of special teams work as well. If you're in dynasty keep an eye on this guy, maybe stash him late if you have large rosters.

I really liked Naanee. He was damn quick, had great hands, and some nice moves. For some reason, he reminded me of a big Ronnie Harmon.....

Naanee is one of the young, unheralded players I've kept an eye out for. I don't see any Chargers camp or practices, but from the few plays I've see from him in the games, he's looked pretty decent. Keep the info coming, I'd love to see him make his way to the #3 spot, MAYBE even higher? He and Davis might both outplay Jackson.

 

[Banger]

And it looks like Naanee is indeed going to make the roster, I figured he would after seeing him Sunday. The news to me is he's projected at #4 already. He'd probably slide to 5 when Parker gets back, unless he continues playing like he did Sunday throughout the season - he looks like quality, really nice hands so far, so maybe he'll stick at 4 if he can make the plays Parker was making and give them more explosiveness and strength. I figure he'll get lots of special teams work as well. If you're in dynasty keep an eye on this guy, maybe stash him late if you have large rosters.

I really liked Naanee. He was damn quick, had great hands, and some nice moves. For some reason, he reminded me of a big Ronnie Harmon.....

Naanee is one of the young, unheralded players I've kept an eye out for. I don't see any Chargers camp or practices, but from the few plays I've see from him in the games, he's looked pretty decent. Keep the info coming, I'd love to see him make his way to the #3 spot, MAYBE even higher? He and Davis might both outplay Jackson.

I don't really see that happening at this point but they are going to use him all over the field I've heard. They may have him listed as a FB now but I think they've also lined him up as a TE and of course WR. So I'd expect depending on what defenses show during a game they may slide him out for a play or two during games to try and exploit mismatch's. Apparently Norv is pretty high on the kid.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

4. Cro is SUPER FAST

I'm on the Cro bandwagon - I think the guy is going to be a great one. He has to be one of the fastest 5 players in the NFL.

Weddle looks like a keeper as well. I'm wondering how long they are going to be able to keep him out of the lineup. He's got a nose for the ball.

Weddle with 2 more picks in the preseason finale. His total of 3 leads all players in the preseason along with 15 tackles. Hart has had a good preseason as well but Weddle will be tough to keep off the field as the season goes on IMO.

Weddle has really come along this preseason, he was running the D out there last night. Hart's been o.k. too. Tough decision for the coaches, but those are the good kind of decisions.Think they'll release Jue and keep one of the younger, cheaper guys?

Roach looked good out there last night, he's got a saftey's number, but I think he was playing LB. He's on the bubble, but I hope they find a way to keep him.

I doubt they release Jue but they've got some tough decisions to make. They have some tough decisions to make LB wise, Siler probably gets a spot, Roach don't know. They probably IR Waters this year.

Yeah, IR'ing Waters is the move. And I agree that they keep Jue. A couple of turned ankles in the defensive backfield and things can get thin quickly back there. Gotta keep Jue for insurance.

What do you think about Chandler? I thought he was a lock early on but now I'm thinking they may practice squad him and maybe have the jack of all trades Nanee as roster insurance.

Chandler's a lock. They can't put him on the practice squad or the Raiders would pick him up immediately.I think every draft pick this year will make the team. Which is really remarkable.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

:X Naanee is one of the young, unheralded players I've kept an eye out for. I don't see any Chargers camp or practices, but from the few plays I've see from him in the games, he's looked pretty decent. Keep the info coming, I'd love to see him make his way to the #3 spot, MAYBE even higher? He and Davis might both outplay Jackson.

I like Naanee, but . . . no, he's not going to outplay Jackson. Or Davis or Floyd or Parker -- this year.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

It's really hard to figure out who the final 53 will be.

I would cut Pinnock and use either Manumaleuna or Naanee as Neal's backup. I would keep Sproles as the third RB and keep only one true FB.

Carlos Polk appears to be on the bubble.

Is there any chance at all that Roman Oben gets cut? Clary and Lekerkkerker have both played well and have more long-term potential.

Paul Oliver should make the team. If we keep five CBs it's between Gordon and Gregory for the last spot. Gordon will probably get it.

I think Jue will make the team. The fourth safety spot is one of the few spots on the roster where there just really isn't much competition.

 

[Gr00vus]

I think Pinnock stays because he's also been the 3rd tailback as well as 2nd fullback. With Turner's knee (although it sounds like Turner should be o.k. for week one) and Gross gone for the season,I think they keep Pinnock around as insurance.

I think Polk will make the team.

I think Camarillo finally gets the axe though, which is too bad, but there's just not enough space and he can't go to the practice squad.

There was talk of Clary actually bumping Lekerkerker off the roster, I'm doubtful of that, but it's been mentioned. I think they keep Oben around as old reliable.

I don't think they keep all those DBs. They're not that good, and if Sproles is kept it makes Gordon less valuable as he returns kicks/punts too. I think they only keep one of those CBs.

 

[Gr00vus]

Snippet from today's SDUnionTrib in preparation for the cuts:

With Roman Oben healthy and Jeromey Clary emerging, the Chargers are likely not in need of offensive lineman Cory Lekkerkerker, who was on the roster much of 2005 and all last season. Lekkerkerker had some rough preseason outings while Clary showed he can play both left tackle and guard.The real intrigue is at linebacker and in the secondary, where there are too many players for the available spots. While those are also the positions that provide most special-teamers, the Chargers have the benefit of flexibility because of their best special teams player being receiver Kassim Osgood and also the emergence on special teams of running back Andrew Pinnock.

 

[tommyGunZ]

No official word on which 16 players the Chargers will remove from their roster today, but several players confirmed three veterans have been released -- S Bhawoh Jue, T Cory Lekkerkerker and DL Derreck Robinson. All three were not present during the open period of practice earlier today and thought to be on the bubble

 

[tommyGunZ]

The Chargers waived 15 players including three veterans Saturday and placed rookie running back Germaine Race on “Reserve-Injured” to get their roster down to 53. Those informed of their release included safety Tra Battle, center Mark Bihl, running back Eldra Buckley, wide receivers Greg Camarillo and Mark Simmons, defensive ends Andre Coleman, Keith Grennan and Derreck Robinson, safety Bhawoh Jue, offensive tackles Cory Lekkerkerker and Tony Pape, defensive tackle Louis Leonard and linebackers Antwan Applewhite, Nick Roach and Jyles Tucker. The club also placed rookie running back Germaine Race on “Reserve-Injured.” Race suffered a toe injury in Thursday night’s preseason finale that require season-ending surgery.

 

[Gr00vus]

Think they'll release Jue and keep one of the younger, cheaper guys?...I think Pinnock stays because he's also been the 3rd tailback as well as 2nd fullback. With Turner's knee (although it sounds like Turner should be o.k. for week one) and Gross gone for the season,I think they keep Pinnock around as insurance.I think Polk will make the team.I think Camarillo finally gets the axe though, which is too bad, but there's just not enough space and he can't go to the practice squad.There was talk of Clary actually bumping Lekerkerker off the roster...it's been mentioned. I think they keep Oben around as old reliable.

On to the practice squad....I hope they find a way to keep Robinson and some of those linebackers on the practice squad. I bet some of them get signed by other teams though. And Buckley looked decent enough to put there as well since Gross will be out for the year. But we'll see.I'd also like to wish Camarillo good luck wherever he goes, he's been a solid citizen with the Chargers.

 

[BeachBums]

The Chargers waived 15 players including three veterans Saturday and placed rookie running back Germaine Race on “Reserve-Injured” to get their roster down to 53. Those informed of their release included safety Tra Battle, center Mark Bihl, running back Eldra Buckley, wide receivers Greg Camarillo and Mark Simmons, defensive ends Andre Coleman, Keith Grennan and Derreck Robinson, safety Bhawoh Jue, offensive tackles Cory Lekkerkerker and Tony Pape, defensive tackle Louis Leonard and linebackers Antwan Applewhite, Nick Roach and Jyles Tucker. The club also placed rookie running back Germaine Race on “Reserve-Injured.” Race suffered a toe injury in Thursday night’s preseason finale that require season-ending surgery.

Jue is a borderline starting quality safety unless he's taken a serious dump since last year. Someone will pick him up.

 

[Banger]

The Chargers waived 15 players including three veterans Saturday and placed rookie running back Germaine Race on “Reserve-Injured” to get their roster down to 53. Those informed of their release included safety Tra Battle, center Mark Bihl, running back Eldra Buckley, wide receivers Greg Camarillo and Mark Simmons, defensive ends Andre Coleman, Keith Grennan and Derreck Robinson, safety Bhawoh Jue, offensive tackles Cory Lekkerkerker and Tony Pape, defensive tackle Louis Leonard and linebackers Antwan Applewhite, Nick Roach and Jyles Tucker. The club also placed rookie running back Germaine Race on “Reserve-Injured.” Race suffered a toe injury in Thursday night’s preseason finale that require season-ending surgery.

Very surprised by Jue and Lekkerker's release. No mention of Waters to IR? Thought he'd be one to go but I guess they like him enough to keep him in the 53.