Cheap Young RBs for 2012 (1 Viewer)

[yankdog]

This thread is intended to mirror the Cheap Young WRs thread for 2012.

I am thinking of the Bilal Powell's, Taiwan Jones', and Dwyer's of the world rather than the Ridley's and the Vereen's who will cost a little more. More longer shots with Potential. Jeremiah Johnson?

This is always a tough category for me because everyone's evaluation of their talents vary wildly and the shelf life potentially so short.

But Powell is on my acquisition list for a cheap RB. Dwyer as well. I don't think either has enormous talent but their situations may prove fortuitous. But I don't see either one as a bell cow or featured back.

Your thoughts?

 

[eaglesfan7]

Im thinking Dion Lewis of the eagles or the third stringer of the packers but Powell is a good one too.

 

[loose circuits]

Curtis Brinkley isn't that young, but he's a guy that could have a role if Tolbert moves on. he looked good in limited action and matthews has a history of injury

 

[Steed]

Kevin smith

 

[inzanitee]

Love Dion Lewis but he's not getting any real opportunity for a while, though is value could increase if he looks good in the limited time he sees this year.

Also like Evan Royster if he can be had for cheap. Looked the part at the end of the season; Shannahan RBs give people fits but if you can pick him up for a song I think he's a decent investment.

 

[ClownDogs]

A couple guys that were getting noticed in camp last year before getting hurt are M.Fannin from Den and B.Batch from Pitt and should be had from the FA list or for VERY cheap.

I think with Leshoures talent and being so young when his injury occurred, getting him for a mid-late 2nd is fairly cheap.

Not sure how "cheap" now, but I.Redman Pitt. I think Mendy will probably miss alot, if not all, of next season, so Redman/Dwyer/B.Batch should get some looks in camp.

Maybe M.Madu TB as a deep deep stash if you have room, got him on my rosters with 53 players.

M.Reese Oak is a RFA and should sign in Oak. If/when Bush leaves, he could fill that role.

 

[rct]

Phillip Tanner - although his value will be beyond 2012, not probably this year.

 

[dickey moe]

Most of the guys mentioned in this thread are either available on my 10-team dynasty waiver wire, and I have Taiwan Jones and Evan Royster rostered. I like Royster's situation based on his late season performance and Jones is just a wild-### guess at this point.

 

[loose circuits]

M.Reese Oak is a RFA and should sign in Oak. If/when Bush leaves, he could fill that role.

not sure Reese has running back skills. He's a pure receiving FB as he converted from WR. I like his game for what he can do, but I don't think he's ever going to carry the rock as a RB...then again I've been wrong beforeOakland did scoop up Lonyae Miller who was behind Ryan Mathews in college, then buried in Dallas. Kid had an incredible combine back in the day and has the physical tools. Not sure what the mental make up is like.

 

[Tanner9919]

L . Blount..seems overlooked everywhere..he's young, and might be 'the guy' in the new offense in TB ( if they don't draft Richardson). I know he's had some bad games, but he's looked good in others.and Raheem was clueless on how to use him..

B. Tate - would houston trade him with Foster a RFA..Tate is probably the best backup RB in the game

 

[az_prof]

I think Donald Brown could be gotten cheap and he is in a good position to be the featured back in a retooled IND offense in 2012. I am really excited to see what he can do with a bigger and more physical OL. Word is that the new HC wants to recreate IND into a more physical team like Pitt and that would be good for whomever is the RB. I doubt IND will go out and draft a first or second round RB because they have too many other needs. Brown outplayed Addai and Carter last season.

 

[nickdib]

Rashad Jennings could be good. He will probably be a 150 touch guy next year and if MJD's knee doesn't hold up, he could be a serviceable starter.

Also I like Kahlil Bell. Marion Barber is done and if Forte doesnt hold up again Bell looked good in his absence

 

[Hoosier16]

Da'Rel Scott. If Jacobs isn't retained and Bradshaw's foot acts up, he could sneak into a starting role.

 

[DexterDew]

i like 2nd year players on good offenses who didn't have OTA or a traditional pre-season.

Scott, Saine and Tanner. To a lesser extent because mainly because of QB play: Powell and Jones.

long shots are Spann and Fannin.

 

[domvin]

This is where contract situations have to be taken into account, as well as talent. I love dion lewis as much as the next guy, but it wont be until 2014 until he gets a possible chance at extended playtime with eagles or a new team. May want to list player, contract situation, and contract situation of player ahead of him.

Ie

Tate, contract year: ?

Foster, rfa, 2012

Just think those details factor in here. . .

 

[Shutout]

A couple guys that were getting noticed in camp last year before getting hurt are M.Fannin from Den and B.Batch from Pitt and should be had from the FA list or for VERY cheap.

I think with Leshoures talent and being so young when his injury occurred, getting him for a mid-late 2nd is fairly cheap.

Not sure how "cheap" now, but I.Redman Pitt. I think Mendy will probably miss alot, if not all, of next season, so Redman/Dwyer/B.Batch should get some looks in camp.

Maybe M.Madu TB as a deep deep stash if you have room, got him on my rosters with 53 players.

M.Reese Oak is a RFA and should sign in Oak. If/when Bush leaves, he could fill that role.

I have a feeling this one is going to be worth something. Maybe not a guy we look back on and he's a Fantasy factor every Sunday or whatnot but, in relation to what you can get him for, a guy you can pick up and create some value on.I don't know about Taiwan Jones being cheap. I haven't seen him traded for "cheap" anywhere.

 

[MAC_32]

Not so cheap, but I like

Ben Tate

Jacquizz Rogers

Kevin Smith

Taiwan Jones

Cheap now, might not be in a year or 2 - deeper leagues go get them now

Dion Lewis

Phillip Tanner

Curtis Brinkley

Rahsard Jennings

Bottom of the Barrell

Khalil Bell

Anthony Allen - most talented of these 4, but Bell's job is safer

Johnny White - Jackson is old and I'm not sold Spiller can be the guy for a full season

Joe McKnight - if for nothing else but there may be an opportunity, draft dependent

Some like, I don't

Isaac Redman - don't see the long term upside, I bet they take someone in the top 100 but if they don't I think Dwyer is a better upside flyer

Kendall Hunter - like Redman, I think he's a complimentary back at best, not enough upside

Bilal Powell - unlike most guys I didn't follow him much in college as he was always under my radar so I don't know enough about him to be comfortable saying no thanks, but everything I've seen has left me very under whelmed

Everyone in Indy - they're all mediocre at best and don't have the Peyton cushion anymore

 

[bigums]

i like 2nd year players on good offenses who didn't have OTA or a traditional pre-season.

Scott, Saine and Tanner. To a lesser extent because mainly because of QB play: Powell and Jones.

long shots are Spann and Fannin.

Anybody else have thoughts on Saine? He looked decent to good in limited action and he's in a high-powered offense where his receiving skills might come in pretty handy.

 

[MAC_32]

i like 2nd year players on good offenses who didn't have OTA or a traditional pre-season.

Scott, Saine and Tanner. To a lesser extent because mainly because of QB play: Powell and Jones.

long shots are Spann and Fannin.

Anybody else have thoughts on Saine? He looked decent to good in limited action and he's in a high-powered offense where his receiving skills might come in pretty handy.

Like him, but he's a low ceiling option. I wouldn't want to go into the season with him as my #2 (PPR only), but I could see a scenario in which he'd be the first or second option on my bench.He's an asset in the passing game, but will always be very limited running. Doubt he ever routinely sees double digit carries, so you'll be banking on receptions with the occasional tug

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Any thoughts on Joique Bell? In Detroit now. I've always been impressed with him.

 

[Boone22]

I've been trying to collect Kevin Smith and Joique Bell in every dynasty league I'm in. Bell actually got a two year deal when he was signed and if Best and Leshore don't come back fully, I think those two guys will be the Detroit backfield.

 

[Boone22]

Any thoughts on Joique Bell? In Detroit now. I've always been impressed with him.

Haha. Posted at the same time and I feel the same way. He's always looked good to me. He just never got a lot of opportunity.

 

[Ballstein]

michael bush

 

[loose circuits]

i like 2nd year players on good offenses who didn't have OTA or a traditional pre-season.

Scott, Saine and Tanner. To a lesser extent because mainly because of QB play: Powell and Jones.

long shots are Spann and Fannin.

Anybody else have thoughts on Saine? He looked decent to good in limited action and he's in a high-powered offense where his receiving skills might come in pretty handy.

Like him, but he's a low ceiling option. I wouldn't want to go into the season with him as my #2 (PPR only), but I could see a scenario in which he'd be the first or second option on my bench.He's an asset in the passing game, but will always be very limited running. Doubt he ever routinely sees double digit carries, so you'll be banking on receptions with the occasional tug

would hope you wouldn't be relying on any 'cheap' RB to be your #2.Saine is in the perfect situation for his skills set. I hope his role grows. I think he's moved ahead of Alex Green in terms of value for Packer RB's

 

[Dawg Pound 69]

michael bush

He will be 28 on opening day. And doubt you can get him cheap, since he is a free agent and is expected tp leave Oakland to become a starter.

 

[gianmarco]

22 year old Jordan Todman. If AP misses time, he'll be the #2 RB in Minn the way things stand now if I'm not mistaken.

 

[MAC_32]

i like 2nd year players on good offenses who didn't have OTA or a traditional pre-season.

Scott, Saine and Tanner. To a lesser extent because mainly because of QB play: Powell and Jones.

long shots are Spann and Fannin.

Anybody else have thoughts on Saine? He looked decent to good in limited action and he's in a high-powered offense where his receiving skills might come in pretty handy.

Like him, but he's a low ceiling option. I wouldn't want to go into the season with him as my #2 (PPR only), but I could see a scenario in which he'd be the first or second option on my bench.He's an asset in the passing game, but will always be very limited running. Doubt he ever routinely sees double digit carries, so you'll be banking on receptions with the occasional tug

would hope you wouldn't be relying on any 'cheap' RB to be your #2.Saine is in the perfect situation for his skills set. I hope his role grows. I think he's moved ahead of Alex Green in terms of value for Packer RB's

I was referring to Saine's best case scenario, when I'm looking at fliers I want guys who have a best case scenario that's higher than Saine.

 

[loose circuits]

i like 2nd year players on good offenses who didn't have OTA or a traditional pre-season.

Scott, Saine and Tanner. To a lesser extent because mainly because of QB play: Powell and Jones.

long shots are Spann and Fannin.

Anybody else have thoughts on Saine? He looked decent to good in limited action and he's in a high-powered offense where his receiving skills might come in pretty handy.

Like him, but he's a low ceiling option. I wouldn't want to go into the season with him as my #2 (PPR only), but I could see a scenario in which he'd be the first or second option on my bench.He's an asset in the passing game, but will always be very limited running. Doubt he ever routinely sees double digit carries, so you'll be banking on receptions with the occasional tug

would hope you wouldn't be relying on any 'cheap' RB to be your #2.Saine is in the perfect situation for his skills set. I hope his role grows. I think he's moved ahead of Alex Green in terms of value for Packer RB's

I was referring to Saine's best case scenario, when I'm looking at fliers I want guys who have a best case scenario that's higher than Saine.

A back with loads of potential in the passing game on a team that likes to throw the rock around has upside to me. I only play in PPR and could seem him with up to a handful of catches maybe as many rushes per game. That would work for me considering the price I paid

 

[Gridiron Gang]

I took over a team in a 16 team Dynasty League and I was able to pick up a bunch of these guys before my WW shut down (Bilal Powell, Alex Green, Da'Rel Scott and Jamie Harper). I've been scouting a lot of 3rd tier rookies coming into the league and want to get Robert Turbin in a Supplemental Draft. Who would you cut him for out of those guys?

 

[FGITLOTR]

I would love to hear from Waldman and if he's still high on Powell. I picked him up last year in a deep dynasty because Matt sees a lot of talent/possible opportunity in 2012/13

 

[Gridiron Gang]

I would love to hear from Waldman and if he's still high on Powell. I picked him up last year in a deep dynasty because Matt sees a lot of talent/possible opportunity in 2012/13

I agree. I picked him up because of last years RSP. I picked up Joe McKnight as well and think I'll let that situation play out. Powell is really hard to find any current information on.

 

[dickey moe]

Is Bernard Scott pretty much washed-up at this point? He's not young, and he never seemed to pan out.

 

[FGITLOTR]

Any news on a landing spot for Mike Bush? I know FA just started but was wondering if he had any visits planned?

 

[cr8f]

Most of the guys mentioned in this thread are either available on my 10-team dynasty waiver wire, and I have Taiwan Jones and Evan Royster rostered. I like Royster's situation based on his late season performance and Jones is just a wild-### guess at this point.

Have Helu and picked up Royster-could be available in some leagues. Brandon Saine?

 

[loose circuits]

A couple guys that were getting noticed in camp last year before getting hurt are M.Fannin from Den and B.Batch from Pitt and should be had from the FA list or for VERY cheap.

I think with Leshoures talent and being so young when his injury occurred, getting him for a mid-late 2nd is fairly cheap.

Not sure how "cheap" now, but I.Redman Pitt. I think Mendy will probably miss alot, if not all, of next season, so Redman/Dwyer/B.Batch should get some looks in camp.

Maybe M.Madu TB as a deep deep stash if you have room, got him on my rosters with 53 players.

M.Reese Oak is a RFA and should sign in Oak. If/when Bush leaves, he could fill that role.

I have a feeling this one is going to be worth something. Maybe not a guy we look back on and he's a Fantasy factor every Sunday or whatnot but, in relation to what you can get him for, a guy you can pick up and create some value on.I don't know about Taiwan Jones being cheap. I haven't seen him traded for "cheap" anywhere.

Madu doesn't hold much value. Just sent out some feelers asking for a 2013 4th cause I need to clear roster spots for my draft. Early returns aren't good. I am surprised because I think he's worth that for teams with the space. I just have too many picks. Maybe teams are expecting Tampa to draft T Rich or some other back and make him irrelevant? Seems like at the least he should work the 3rd downs and get some catches

 

[loose circuits]

from the rookie thread:

Brandon Saine

Dujaun Harris

Phil Tanner

Jordan Todman

Anthony Allen

Mossis Madu (only 2 RB's on Tampa's roster)

Da'Rel Scott

Goodson (although he's buried)

Powell seems like he should be going very cheap as there are a lot of people expecting New York to draft a back.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

M.Reese Oak is a RFA and should sign in Oak. If/when Bush leaves, he could fill that role.

not sure Reese has running back skills. He's a pure receiving FB as he converted from WR. I like his game for what he can do, but I don't think he's ever going to carry the rock as a RB...then again I've been wrong beforeOakland did scoop up Lonyae Miller who was behind Ryan Mathews in college, then buried in Dallas. Kid had an incredible combine back in the day and has the physical tools. Not sure what the mental make up is like.

I'll give my on Miller from Senior Bowl and preseason touches -- yes, he's got some speed and I like that he can get to top speed in a hurry. However, holes have to be WIDE OPEN for him to make a nice run. He's not (and wasn't at Fresno) creative or elusive as a runner. I wouldn't carry him on my dynasty team. Mario Fannin looked FANTASTIC in training camp before messing up his knee. Swift runner (think Ben Tate), 2nd fastest RB at the 2011 Combine, looked good to me in August. I would rather take a chance on him than Miller.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

from the rookie thread:

Brandon Saine

Dujaun Harris

Phil Tanner

Jordan Todman

Anthony Allen

Mossis Madu (only 2 RB's on Tampa's roster)

Da'Rel Scott

Goodson (although he's buried)

Powell seems like he should be going very cheap as there are a lot of people expecting New York to draft a back.

you had me at Da' -- should have seen the look on Tom Coughlin's face when I asked him about Scott at this year's Combine. However, he did say they're looking for more from him this year, sounds like a bigger opportunity is there for him, and I trust the Giants eye for RBs (Ryan Grant was on their PS before GB plucked him away).

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Is Bernard Scott pretty much washed-up at this point? He's not young, and he never seemed to pan out.

don't think he's washed up at all, just needed more opportunity. With the addition of Lawfirm (and not a more full time RB like MBush) I think we'll finally see BScott get his shot. I could see RBBC with Scott as change of pace receiving back and BenJarvus as the banger, goalline back.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

22 year old Jordan Todman. If AP misses time, he'll be the #2 RB in Minn the way things stand now if I'm not mistaken.

I could see the opportunity if ADP misses time. however, sounds like he's well ahead of schedule in rehab. personally I'm not a fan of Todman. He's A LOT like Lonyae Miller IMHO. Needs huge holes, lacks vision, throttles down (think Trung Candidate) to change direction.

 

[bengalbuck]

Is Bernard Scott pretty much washed-up at this point? He's not young, and he never seemed to pan out.

don't think he's washed up at all, just needed more opportunity. With the addition of Lawfirm (and not a more full time RB like MBush) I think we'll finally see BScott get his shot. I could see RBBC with Scott as change of pace receiving back and BenJarvus as the banger, goalline back.

That's a possibility, but I think it is more likely that he ends up getting cut than it is for him to be the change of pace back. He has never been able to make a positive impact as a receiving back. He struggles mightily in pass blocking and he had a whopping 2.9 yards per reception last year (and a handful of drops). And its not like he was good running the ball either despite the Bengals giving him a lot of chances to make an impact. He put up 3.4 yards per carry on over 100 rushing attempts last season.I don't know if "washed up" is the correct term, but I personally tend to think that the Bengals view him as a failed experiment and are ready to move on. BJGE and a speedy young back in the draft. Brian Leonard who has made a lot of plays on 3rd down (named team MVP a few years ago) and in short yardage situations. And if they keep 4, Cedric Peerman has a better chance of sticking than Scott due to his special teams contributions.I've never understood why you audible guys hyped up Scott so much over the past few years...

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

Is Bernard Scott pretty much washed-up at this point? He's not young, and he never seemed to pan out.

don't think he's washed up at all, just needed more opportunity. With the addition of Lawfirm (and not a more full time RB like MBush) I think we'll finally see BScott get his shot. I could see RBBC with Scott as change of pace receiving back and BenJarvus as the banger, goalline back.

That's a possibility, but I think it is more likely that he ends up getting cut than it is for him to be the change of pace back. He has never been able to make a positive impact as a receiving back. He struggles mightily in pass blocking and he had a whopping 2.9 yards per reception last year (and a handful of drops). And its not like he was good running the ball either despite the Bengals giving him a lot of chances to make an impact. He put up 3.4 yards per carry on over 100 rushing attempts last season.I don't know if "washed up" is the correct term, but I personally tend to think that the Bengals view him as a failed experiment and are ready to move on. BJGE and a speedy young back in the draft. Brian Leonard who has made a lot of plays on 3rd down (named team MVP a few years ago) and in short yardage situations. And if they keep 4, Cedric Peerman has a better chance of sticking than Scott due to his special teams contributions.I've never understood why you audible guys hyped up Scott so much over the past few years...

Well, B.Scott averaged 4.59 ypc combined in 2009-10 and had two very solid games as the starter in 2009. His production was mediocre last year, but his usage was sporadic. I think the guy is a talented runner that doesn't get used well. He has good but not great speed, good vision, good lateral agility, and good hands. He might not have the size to be a feature back, and Cincy certainly doesn't seem to have any inclination to use him that way, so his fantasy value is capped. But the guy has talent, IMO.Brian Leonard offers nothing as a runner. He's a solid receiver, but that's it. Peerman is strictly a special teamer, a spot that is easily replaced by backups at other positions.I don't see Cincy releasing B.Scott. IF they draft a good rookie RB, it would be possible, but still doubtful... we'll see.

 

[bengalbuck]

Is Bernard Scott pretty much washed-up at this point? He's not young, and he never seemed to pan out.

don't think he's washed up at all, just needed more opportunity. With the addition of Lawfirm (and not a more full time RB like MBush) I think we'll finally see BScott get his shot. I could see RBBC with Scott as change of pace receiving back and BenJarvus as the banger, goalline back.

That's a possibility, but I think it is more likely that he ends up getting cut than it is for him to be the change of pace back. He has never been able to make a positive impact as a receiving back. He struggles mightily in pass blocking and he had a whopping 2.9 yards per reception last year (and a handful of drops). And its not like he was good running the ball either despite the Bengals giving him a lot of chances to make an impact. He put up 3.4 yards per carry on over 100 rushing attempts last season.I don't know if "washed up" is the correct term, but I personally tend to think that the Bengals view him as a failed experiment and are ready to move on. BJGE and a speedy young back in the draft. Brian Leonard who has made a lot of plays on 3rd down (named team MVP a few years ago) and in short yardage situations. And if they keep 4, Cedric Peerman has a better chance of sticking than Scott due to his special teams contributions.I've never understood why you audible guys hyped up Scott so much over the past few years...

Well, B.Scott averaged 4.59 ypc combined in 2009-10 and had two very solid games as the starter in 2009. His production was mediocre last year, but his usage was sporadic. I think the guy is a talented runner that doesn't get used well. He has good but not great speed, good vision, good lateral agility, and good hands. He might not have the size to be a feature back, and Cincy certainly doesn't seem to have any inclination to use him that way, so his fantasy value is capped. But the guy has talent, IMO.Brian Leonard offers nothing as a runner. He's a solid receiver, but that's it. Peerman is strictly a special teamer, a spot that is easily replaced by backups at other positions.I don't see Cincy releasing B.Scott. IF they draft a good rookie RB, it would be possible, but still doubtful... we'll see.

And you may end up being right. However, I think last season was Bernard's "shot" and he blew it. He has never been able to understand the offense and especially when it comes to the passing game. He doesn't understand blitzes and who he should be trying to pick up. So I don't think he's ever going to be that Darren Sproles type of change of pace back many seem to envision him as. He also doesn't run hard enough or effectively enough to be the lead guy. He's neither the thunder nor the lightning in a RBBC situation. So he just doesn't have a role. While he's more talented than a guy like Brian Leonard, Leonard has a role and it is one that he has excelled in throughout his tenure with the Bengals and he is a guy the coaches trust. I don't think its quite the slam dunk everyone assumes that the Bengals will address the RB position in the draft. But I think there's a 75% chance they do and if so, I think it is Bernard Scott who will be the one fighting the rookie for one roster spot in training camp, not BJGE or Leonard.

 

[loose circuits]

great article on Anthony Allen RB Bal. I got this link through FBG's news page...

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-allen-ready-for-opportunity-20120331,0,5563471.story

 

[JSkins03]

Can you actually be "washed up" if you were never anything to begin with?

 

[barker132000]

Jonathan Dwyer - he was projected as a 1st rounder by some before ultimitely falling way down in his draft....every tine he has gotten a chance..wether it be preseason or in season...he has delivered. I think pittsburgh knows they have something...he is still just 22...so i think hes had to sit and wait cause pitt can afford to dobthat with him....not a fan of redman..im predicting breakout for jon dwyer.

Da'rel scott has a wide open path to sneaking into a lot of carries for the giants...ahmad bradshaw is not a bellcow