fantasyfreak06
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Where is Taylor's value with ADrian Peterson heading to Minnesota? 
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Chester Taylor's stock just tanked (1 Viewer)
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Keith Lewis
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A picture is worth a thousand words ====>Where is Taylor's value with ADrian Peterson heading to Minnesota?
smcindoe
Footballguy
I recommend Brady Quinn.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Chester was one of the worst starting RB in the NFL, Peterson will push him aside and have a great rookie season.
packersfan
Footballguy
I like Peterson a lot and I think he's going to be a star in this league barring injury but I'm not sure we should be so quick to write off Taylor just yet. How many people wrote off Thomas Jones when Benson was drafted? How'd that work out. And even in strong RBBC situations guys like Deuce and Fred Taylor were solid fantasy options for much of last season (Taylor faded at the end).
No question Taylor's stock took a big hit but I'm not sure he's going to be flushed into the toilet this season.
No question Taylor's stock took a big hit but I'm not sure he's going to be flushed into the toilet this season.
chook
Footballguy
Warhogs
Footballguy
Glad I traded him two weeks ago for a 2nd rounder this year and a first rounder next season. I took over a young rebuilding team and Taylor did not seem to fit plus I was worried this might happen. I think Taylor will still be an OK backup RB but unless AD gets hurt he does not make a good starter going forward IMO.
the Peterson pick really throws a wrench in my fantasy Keeper plans (2 player keeper league).i have Edge as 1 keeper (love the Levi Brown pick), and Chester was going to be my 2nd keeper.. but if he's splitting carries w/ AD (assuming he survives the summer w/ no injuries),------ i'd rather keep Reggie Brown WR-Phi [sic] hoping he has that trademark Year3 Breakout Season, over Chester Taylor RBBC in a low-scoring offense.
Frank Black
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Does anyone believe that Minny will try to trade Mewelde Moore to another team?
the Bears drafting Cedric Benson 4th overall never really hurt Thomas Jones' value as much as people thought it would.
I love Peterson too, but Taylor may still be alright. Lots of teams using 2 RBs these days.
I love Peterson too, but Taylor may still be alright. Lots of teams using 2 RBs these days.
chook
Footballguy
Yes. he's been wasted for too long in Minn.
snarfsnarf
Footballguy
Take out all of his runs over 4yds and he wasn't really all that good.
chook
Footballguy
I really hope that's sarcasm. Otherwise, that's absolutely poo reasoning.Take away LT's TD runs last year and he probably wasn't all that good either.
I agree, this reminds me of last year when the saints drafted reggie bush and everyone acted as if deuce was no longer on the team. I predict that AD will be the yardage guy ala' Julius jones and CT will be the goal line rb ala' Marion barberchook said:packersfan said:
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Ramblin Wreck
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Wow. One of the most ridiculous comments I have ever read.
PatsWillWin
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crazy gadget
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Keith Lewis
Footballguy
This thread sucks on so many levels. 
Chris Smith
The Head Goon!
This has all the makings of a committee backfield in 2007... I expect that the experience of Chester Taylor will get him the majority of the carries to start the season. However as the year goes on, Peterson's incredible natural ability will begin to lead to more and more carries and by the end of the year, Peterson will be getting the bulk of the work.
By 2008, this will without question by the AD show... If Taylor is still on the roster, I expect him to get carries only to spell Peterson...
With a potential great OL blocking for him, Peterson could put up some great numbers down the road...
In a dynasty league, I would hold onto Taylor for now, hope he starts hot and then attempt to move him.
By 2008, this will without question by the AD show... If Taylor is still on the roster, I expect him to get carries only to spell Peterson...
With a potential great OL blocking for him, Peterson could put up some great numbers down the road...
In a dynasty league, I would hold onto Taylor for now, hope he starts hot and then attempt to move him.
packersfan
Footballguy
This sounds exactly what was being said about McAllister and Bush a year ago at this time. But that never materialized. The Jones-Benson analogy is one I brought up before and I think is a strong one. Fred Taylor was able to have a solid fantasy value last season despite Jones-Drew's presence.Again, I like Peterson quite a bit but I think it's far too soon to write off Taylor for 2007. If he falls in drafts, he's going to be a guy I'll target. I think he gets at least 50% of the carries this season and maybe even remains the starter all season long with Peterson taking over in 2008.
Lovie Smith didn't hate Benson. Who's to say that Peterson won't be a holdout?there are a lot of other examples where the stud rookie RB didn't come in and replace the established veteran starter right away. Larry Johnson, Reggie Bush, Laurence Maroney, Maurice Jones-Drew, DeAngelo Williams, Steven Jackson, etc.
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chook
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Lovie wasn't a teammate either.
Lovie picked the starting lineup, no?
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chook
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For sure. I was just being technical and pointing out useless semantics.
Ministry of Pain
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I disagree, I think Peterson starts from day 1. The guy is uber talented and he wasn't picked to come in and sit. Taylor had some of the worst vision of any runner last year. You have Hutch and McKinnie on the left side...where might the holes be to run behind? Some will argue but I seem to remeber a lot of those 30 carries for 90 uds...Peterson will make a pretty good OL look great. And this will take a whole lot of pressure off that anemic passing game.
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Tau837
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With all due respect:1. What Peterson may do at this point is speculative. We know that Benson set himself up in every worst way possible short of getting arrested for his rookie season. There is absolutely no reason to think Peterson will do that.2. Taylor is not Priest Holmes or Marshall Faulk.3. Maroney and Willams are not as good as Peterson.4. Jones Drew was a second round pick and not expected to contend to start.5. Bush is an apples and oranges comparison because he did more damage as a receiver than as a runner... unless you see either Peterson or Taylor being used extensively in a receiving RB role.
my only point is that it would be premature to bury Chester Taylor right now. look how many teams were able to produce 2 quality fantasy RBs last year. with Tarvaris Jackson at QB and nobody at WR, I figure the Vikings are going to have to run, run, run, and run some more to have much of a shot at winning games. There should be a lot of carries/touches to go around there.Peterson will become the feature back there at some point, but it wouldn't be ridiculous to see them share the load this year. Both players might actually be more effective with fewer carries per game.
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Chris Smith
The Head Goon!
I think we're closer on this than you think as I also think it may mirror McAllister / Bush to start the season. There is two big differences here though...McAllister >> Taylor IMO
Peterson >>> runner (note I said runner) than Reggie Bush...
With Bush being an incredible receiver, it actually led to a committee approach that strengthened the Saints. However I don't see any possible way whatsoever that Taylor can even approach Peterson when it comes to pure rushing skills.
I see the Vikings starting Peterson fairly slowly to start the year. But that will change and once it does, bye bye committee.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Which does not belong: Priest Holmes, Deuce McAllister, Corey Dillon, Fred Taylor, Marshall Faulk, Chester TaylorTaylor is not the "established veteran" that any of those other guys are. Of the situations you listed only Foster is on a level similar to Taylor, and Foster isn't half the prospect AD is. Heck, of the RBs listed only Bush compared to AD as a prospect and that's a tough comparison as Bush isn't the type of workhourse feature RB that AD is.Not saying your wrong, but those examples are quite different as in almost ever case the "established veteran" was better than Chesta and the "stud rookie RB" didn't grade out as highly as Peterson as a prospect. Heck, none of those guys even listed there outside of Bush were a top 20 pick.
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Chris Smith
The Head Goon!
You are right in that talent wise there is no comparison. With Peterson still recovering though and having a veteran presence to rely on to start the year, I believe Peterson will start somewhat slowly with controlled touches only to get more and more work as the year wears on. I would be very surprised if he was a 20+ carry per game back in week one. Not surprised at all by week 8.
Chris Smith
The Head Goon!
I think Thomas Jones is comparable in talent to Chester Taylor, which is why I brought up Benson. Then, I got yelled at for that being a horrible analogy.Feel free to suggest a better analogy if you want.This certainly isn't going to help Chester's value over the long run. I just don't think he's going to become useless for 2007 either.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Well it wasn't me who yelled at you
. I actually think if you were trying to draw an analogy to this the Chicago one would be the best, certainly closer than all those others where the veteran >>> Chester, and where ADP > the rookie.However, even in Chicago there were a lot of odd circumstances like the super long holdout, the teammates hating him, things like that. Again though, it's a better analogy than the others, and if the collar bone reports are true and ADP misses a lot of training camp Chester could still see a lot of reps early on, but I just can't see any way Chester can hold ADP off the field.
chook
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Blue-Kun
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I highly doubt they overwork AP that much in his first season where they still have major issues @ WR and QB. I figure it'll be be closer to a committee this first year while they adapt Peterson's running style to the NFL so he doesn't take too much abuse on his runs. Even if AP comes in and is all-world, why would you want to give him a significant load in a season where it's doubtful the team will really be competitive? Especially when you've got a back you know you can just send in there to pound the ball for 20 times a game.
MJD was the best RB in JAX last year, but they rarely gave him a significant workload until the last 4 games of the season. Reggie Bush looked pedestrian until the second half of the season. Etc. etc. There's still the usual rookie pitfalls to worry about. Does CT's stock take a significant hit? Sure. But it's not exactly everyday where a proven workhorse back for the team just disappears from the start of the season and gets replaced by the rook.
MJD was the best RB in JAX last year, but they rarely gave him a significant workload until the last 4 games of the season. Reggie Bush looked pedestrian until the second half of the season. Etc. etc. There's still the usual rookie pitfalls to worry about. Does CT's stock take a significant hit? Sure. But it's not exactly everyday where a proven workhorse back for the team just disappears from the start of the season and gets replaced by the rook.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Peterson is an upright runner with an injury history too. All-world might be stretching it a little.
H.K.
Footballguy
Taylor's #'s last year were attributable to workload (see DDavis, Gado and Goings, etc., who were good spot FF RB's, but that doesn't make them good NFL RB's.)Peterson is far better than Taylor. Period. If Peterson gets the workload Taylor did last season, he'll eclipse CT's stats...even with TJ at QB all season in 2007.The Vikings now have a feature RB and a decent RB2 who can play on third downs and take a few series. Minnesota needs an elite talent at RB for their system to work, now they have one. Unless ADP can't grasp the playbook at all, he should be the primary from day one.
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Gopher State
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I see the carries being 55 Taylor and 45 AP, however, AP will be the guy to have late in the season, as his carries will increase as the season goes on. IMO Taylor gets the lions share of the TD's on the goal line, but AP gets the yards, and some TD's the second half of the season.
Banger
Footballguy
Anything can happen. If AP tears it up in preseason and early in the regular season Taylor is worthless. This is not good for Taylor any way you cut it.
fantasyfreak06
Footballguy
With Brandon Jacobs and Chester Taylor as my primary ball carriers I'm screwed. This year is not solid at all in the RB department.
