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Snotbubbles
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To be fair, Chicago only scored 19 pts against Minnesota. But Minnesota really IMO is only an average team. Lets face it, they beat a Washington team without their best player, and a Carolina team without their best player. And yes...Clinton Portis and Steve Smith make a huge difference in a game. Also, I wouldn't call Buffalo's defense good. They're ranked 19th in passing yards allowed and 20th in rushing yards allowed. Not god-awful is probably a term I'd use to describe Buffalo's D at this point. Plus, beating a Seahawks team without their best offensive player doesn't validate the Bears for me (see my Minnesota analysis). The only validation I would see is actually winning a game when it counts. Playing good early on is great, but you need to be able to play when the pressure is at its greatest (see Indy). Only time will tell if this team has what it takes.
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Yesterday on the WSCR670, they said that the Bears have already had 2 stretches this season where they scored 50 unanswered points.
I was going through a drive thu, so I missed the exact wording of the rest, but I believe they said that only 3 teams have done that in a season in the modern era, and all 3 won the Superbowl. Pittsburgh from last season was one of the teams. Either that, or it was the last 3 teams that did it...
I'm not going to say that this team is better than the 85 Bears, they have a long way to go for that. But like I said, you can go back and watch the tapes. The 85 Bears almost lost their home opener to a 2-14 Tampa Bay team. James Wilder ran all over them, and DeBerg had a pretty decent day. They played that same 2-14 team close on the road again. They were getting stomped on by Minnesota before McMahon came back and led the magical comeback. And sure they blew out Washington. Who had no friggin punter. That game was over when Theisman punted it for 1 yard.
This team is playing better football through 5 games than the 85 Bears were, period, end of story.
I was going through a drive thu, so I missed the exact wording of the rest, but I believe they said that only 3 teams have done that in a season in the modern era, and all 3 won the Superbowl. Pittsburgh from last season was one of the teams. Either that, or it was the last 3 teams that did it...
I'm not going to say that this team is better than the 85 Bears, they have a long way to go for that. But like I said, you can go back and watch the tapes. The 85 Bears almost lost their home opener to a 2-14 Tampa Bay team. James Wilder ran all over them, and DeBerg had a pretty decent day. They played that same 2-14 team close on the road again. They were getting stomped on by Minnesota before McMahon came back and led the magical comeback. And sure they blew out Washington. Who had no friggin punter. That game was over when Theisman punted it for 1 yard.
This team is playing better football through 5 games than the 85 Bears were, period, end of story.
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Doctor Detroit
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You can quote me guy. They won't run the table and apparently you have been watching the NFL for 6 months if you think a team with a 15th ranked rushing attack and a 2nd year QB can go 16-0.jon_mx said:
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
But they DIDN'T lose to Minnesota. Almost doesn't count.Jagerbomber said:
Jagerbomber
Footballguy
Umm...I don't think you got the point I was trying to make.
Buckle
Footballguy
I think the key for them to go 16-0 this season is that they have a deep depth chart.
They have 3 QBs with starting experience. At one time, people were thinking Griese was the better starting QB than Grossman. Orton should be better than last year.
The RB position is at least 3 deep with Jones, Benson, and Peterson (I don't think he's a bum).
They have solid backups in the WR and TE position.
Gould is this year's Rackers.
The defensive line is solid. Having Mark Anderson rotating is just cream on the cake for this group.
Same could be said for the secondary, they have enough people to move around. Some bench players could be starting on other teams.
The starting LBs are fine, not sure on their LB bench though.
They have 3 QBs with starting experience. At one time, people were thinking Griese was the better starting QB than Grossman. Orton should be better than last year.
The RB position is at least 3 deep with Jones, Benson, and Peterson (I don't think he's a bum).
They have solid backups in the WR and TE position.
Gould is this year's Rackers.
The defensive line is solid. Having Mark Anderson rotating is just cream on the cake for this group.
Same could be said for the secondary, they have enough people to move around. Some bench players could be starting on other teams.
The starting LBs are fine, not sure on their LB bench though.
bullitt
Footballguy
These are the stats from the Bears - Vikes game:1st Downs - Bears 19 Vikes 11Total Net Yards - Bears 325 Vikes 286Net Yards Rushing - Bears 51 Vikes 97 (one for the Vikes)Net Yards Passing - Bears 274 Vikes 189Fumbles/Lost - Bears 0-0 Vikes 2-2Interceptions - Bears 2 Vikes 0Touchdowns - Bears 1 Vikes 1Score - Bears 19 Vikes 16Besides the rushing, which now has gotten started, looks like Chicago was the better team.
Ghost Rider
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Sure I do. I just hate the "they almost lost to this team or that team" kind of argument. If you win on the road in the NFL against a team that is over .500, regardless of how close or ugly the game might have been, that is impressive, no?
Ayanbadejo filled in for Hillenmeyer the other day, and was just fine. Leon Joe isn't terrible, he'd fill in for Briggs. Losing Urlacher would definitely hurt, they have no one capable of replacing him. Losing Briggs would definitely not be cool, but they could live through that. Hillenmeyer - who cares. Overall, the depth is solid there.
Jagerbomber
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It's impressive, yes. The Bears were the better team.My point is, that a quality team on the road could still be a trouble spot for them to lose one or two games (Giants or Patriots are the team I'm thinking of).For the record, no real feelings about the bears one way or the other. Just trying to play devil's advocate here.
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Yup, Chicago led at half. They were marching down the field to start the 2nd half. And then the Rex pick for a TD is what almost killed them.As much as the fumble was a key play, it was on 3rd and 8 and was nowhere near as key as the Grossman pick. So I'd say it's more accurate to say the Bears almost gave it away.
boubucarow
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Wow, when I re-read, it sounds like I am saying a 4 interception game is the only way the Bears will lose. That is not what I meant. I meant that Rex scares me. The idiotic throws against Minnesota made the game close and almost cost the Bears the game.That said, I would be stunned if the Bears survive that east coast swing unscathed and there is no team in history that didn't struggle with teams they should have easily beaten. The Bears will go undefeated if they show up every game and also get very very very lucky.As a Bears fan, I am not worrying about 16-0 or January right now. I am just enjoying watching this team do things I didn't think a Bears team would ever be able to do.boubucarow said:
Indeed, and they have a ways to go to get there. If you're going to use the playoffs as the only measuring stick, which I can understand to an extent, there's really not much of a debate that's possible. But through 5 games, I don't think it's fair to say that this team isn't even close to the 85 team...
Last time I checked, Alexander didn't play defense. And even if he had played to keep the offense going, do you think he was worth 34 points?Here's Alexander's stats through the first 3 games19/51 26/89 1td20/47 1tdHardly overwhelming stats. And this included the drubbing that the seahawks gave the Giants.Here's Morris's stats vs Chi11/35I don't th ink Alexander's presence at the Bears game would have made much of a difference imo.Snotbubbles said:
jbird5150
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Honestly, as much as I'd love to see the 72 Fish become second fiddle, I'd rather see the Bears drop a game or two. Winning can breed complacency, and complacency is the last thing you want going into the playoffs.
I think the loss to the Dolphins in 85 refocused that team and made them get better. It happened at the perfect time (early December) and was a catalyst to propelling them into the playoffs and Super Bowl.
This Bears team can run the table for sure. But I'd rather drop a game or two and win the Super Bowl than go 16-0 and lose in the playoffs to an upstart Philly team (Donovan LOOOVES coming home to Chi-town) or a Seattle squad looking for revenge. Every team has a bad day. I want the Bears' day to come BEFORE January.
I think the loss to the Dolphins in 85 refocused that team and made them get better. It happened at the perfect time (early December) and was a catalyst to propelling them into the playoffs and Super Bowl.
This Bears team can run the table for sure. But I'd rather drop a game or two and win the Super Bowl than go 16-0 and lose in the playoffs to an upstart Philly team (Donovan LOOOVES coming home to Chi-town) or a Seattle squad looking for revenge. Every team has a bad day. I want the Bears' day to come BEFORE January.
ericttspikes
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They blanked GB who had a work in progress O line, as sweet as a shutout as there is though.
The Detroit game was impressive considering DET looked good week 1 vs. Seattle. They are still winless however.
Minny played them great. The Vikes are underrated, especially on D.
Even with no Alexander, they looked good vs. Seattle, but not having their best player does hurt and I haven't liked what I've seen from the Seattle O this year at all.
The Bills win was probably the most impressive to me. The Bills aren't that great but have a decent D, solid run game and have been in most of their games to this point. An inexperienced QB like Losman plays right into the Bears strengh.
AZ should be a blow out too.
I like this team, especailly the great strides on O. Special teams are a weapon and Berrian looks like good ole' CC in his prime. The run game got on track a bit last week, but still needs to improve. They aren't the best Bears team ever, but very good. I think people forget how dominant they were in 85.
As good as they have played, this team can be beat. I 'm not sold on them as a true playoff force, but they are getting it done vs. teams the are supposed to beat. I do think have a real chance at undefeated, their sked is one of the easiest I've ever seen. I actually wish they would play a good team like Philly to see where they stand.
I have a feeling this will be a regular season to remember and a post season to forget.
The Detroit game was impressive considering DET looked good week 1 vs. Seattle. They are still winless however.
Minny played them great. The Vikes are underrated, especially on D.
Even with no Alexander, they looked good vs. Seattle, but not having their best player does hurt and I haven't liked what I've seen from the Seattle O this year at all.
The Bills win was probably the most impressive to me. The Bills aren't that great but have a decent D, solid run game and have been in most of their games to this point. An inexperienced QB like Losman plays right into the Bears strengh.
AZ should be a blow out too.
I like this team, especailly the great strides on O. Special teams are a weapon and Berrian looks like good ole' CC in his prime. The run game got on track a bit last week, but still needs to improve. They aren't the best Bears team ever, but very good. I think people forget how dominant they were in 85.
As good as they have played, this team can be beat. I 'm not sold on them as a true playoff force, but they are getting it done vs. teams the are supposed to beat. I do think have a real chance at undefeated, their sked is one of the easiest I've ever seen. I actually wish they would play a good team like Philly to see where they stand.
I have a feeling this will be a regular season to remember and a post season to forget.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Well it's all speculation but Alexander's presence could have had a profound impact on the game. I don't think too many people will argue that Alexander is a better runner than Maurice Morris. Having offensive balance is the key to any good team. As a Bears fan you should know this more than anyone. Take Rex Grossman out of the offense and it's well...offensive. Same principle here. Alexander doesn't play defense, but the best defense is a ball control offense.
PsychoMan
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i've been listening to bears radio every day all season ... lovie & the players are so focused on improving regardless of how many wins they rack up. they say they are finding plenty problems in the film that they need to work on .. this morning vasher said unless they force 10 turnovers and score 20 touchdowns, they won't be happy. everything i'm hearing has me loving the work ethic of the coaches and this team. they want to play to perfection, and even though they may (and likely will) lose some games, i don't believe they are going to lose focus or back down at all.
i think this is going to be a great team not only for this season, but the next several.
i think this is going to be a great team not only for this season, but the next several.
The 85 team had 5 regular season victories by 20 points or more, only 1 in the first 5 games.This Bears team already has 3.The 85 Bears didn't post a shutout until week 11, and had 2 on the season. This team almost has 2 already.The 85 Bears had close games against the 2-14 Tampa team (twice, in both weeks 1 and 5), were losing BIG to Minnesota and came back in week 3, they had squeakers against Green Bay who was 8-8, against Indy who was 5-11. They weren't this unstoppable force every game, that simply doesn't happen in the NFL.Again, go back and watch the tapes. This team is playing better football than the 85 Bears were through 5 games. Who knows if it will keep up, but this is very possibly the best team through 5 games ever...or at least since the 1941 Bears.
Steve Dallas
Footballguy
They'll lose to the Pats.
PsychoMan
Footballguy
the playoff run of that 85 bears team has to be about the best ever. has there been one more dominant? that's what made that season even more amazing than it already was.i agree that this current bears team is playing better than the regular season 85 bears, but i think we'll truely know which one's better come playoff time.Chi 21 NYG 0 (Semi-finals)Chi 24 Rams 0 (Conference Championships)Chi 46 NE 10 (Super Bowl XX)
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I'm well aware of ball control, but my point is...Alexander hasn't been the best player on the seahawks team at all this year. He has been very underwhelming. They've been getting it done without him. Losing him for that game wasn't as big a blow as eveyrone's making it up to be. He's simply not the Alexander of the previous years. Maybe that fall with the wiener dog really hurt him worse than Holmgren was letting on.
hutchins929
Footballguy
Let me make sure you understand what I was saying... I HATE THE BEARS, I am a fan of one of their division rivals, which will remain nameless because of the shame that I have for them... LOL ok it's the Lions. But anyway im not saying that they will go undefeated but they have one hell of a chance looking at their schedule and as good as they are. Can they loose a couple? maybe even three??? YES. I said that in the original post but if they stay healthy and don't shoot them selves in the foot, They have a chance at doing it.
I believe that it will eventually happen, maybe not this year with the Bears, but sooner or later there will be an undefeated Super Bowl Champion in the NFL.
I believe that it will eventually happen, maybe not this year with the Bears, but sooner or later there will be an undefeated Super Bowl Champion in the NFL.
Just watched some of those Bears videos from 85. Hampton really was a monster in those days. 
I don't think they'll go undefeated, they could but 16 games and 4 preseason is just to much wear and tear on the body and mind. They'll have a let down at some point and I just hope it isn't against the f'ing Cardinals this week.
I don't think they'll go undefeated, they could but 16 games and 4 preseason is just to much wear and tear on the body and mind. They'll have a let down at some point and I just hope it isn't against the f'ing Cardinals this week.
