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Childress tried to bench Favre (1 Viewer)
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The Panthers continued to pressure the aging QB and went on to win the game with relative ease. Trouble in Minnesota?fantasysharkctb
Footballguy
Really? Wow.
ESPN will be all over this.
ESPN will be all over this.
trader jake
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encaitar
Footballguy
I already mentioned this in a different thread, but I was under the impression that Chilly wanted to bench Favre because Favre was checking out of every running play. You come into the third quarter with a lead and ADP on your team and it's time to start killing the clock with some power running. Yet every time the Vikings were in run formation, Favre checked out of it to a quick pass to Berrian or a slant to Rice.
The heated exchange happened after a stalled drive that consisted of 6 passes. Three of those plays looked to be called runs that Favre checked out of. I have a feeling that there is going to be a few heated meetings at Winter Park this week and I'm actually glad this happened now and not in 4 weeks.
The heated exchange happened after a stalled drive that consisted of 6 passes. Three of those plays looked to be called runs that Favre checked out of. I have a feeling that there is going to be a few heated meetings at Winter Park this week and I'm actually glad this happened now and not in 4 weeks.
certificate
Footballguy
He should be benched next game. Talk about undermining the head coach, this is totally ridiculous.
TakiToki
Footballguy
How does a QB get to do this? I thought it was terrible when Peyton Manning waved the punt team off the field several years ago, and Dungy complied. This is like nineteen thousand times worse.
I just don't understand how a QB "refuses" to come out of the game. How does a coach back down from a personnel decision? It's the coach's call. If Favre talks the coach into keeping him in the game, that's one thing. Refusing to come out is another. I don't see how Childress can maintain a semblance of authority over this team, if the specifics of this story are true.
I just don't understand how a QB "refuses" to come out of the game. How does a coach back down from a personnel decision? It's the coach's call. If Favre talks the coach into keeping him in the game, that's one thing. Refusing to come out is another. I don't see how Childress can maintain a semblance of authority over this team, if the specifics of this story are true.
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certificate
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Maybe Favre's handling of the benching was going to be so disruptive to the team that he didn't think it was worth it? What are you going to do, physically restrain the guy?I don't know, it's a bizarre story, but it speaks to a lack of professionalism / terrible attitude on the part of Favre.
ninerfan
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Maybe "Chilly" realizes that if Favre hadn't joined the Vikes this season (and played well for them) he'd probably be looking at his last year coaching in Minnesota. Childress owes his nice fat extension to Favre. If TJ was the starting QB this season Childress would probably already be on the way out. It'll be interesting to see how long Childress lasts as a head coach after Favre leaves/retires. Just to put things in perspective, I can't stand Favre but Childress is a joke.
certificate
Footballguy
I wonder what Adrian Peterson thinks of his 12 rushing attempts with a 1 point lead for most of the game. Especially if Favre was constantly checking out of runs...
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Footballguy
I'm still just blown away by this.
The head coach of an NFL team was unsuccessful in his attempt to bench his starting quarterback.
Wow.
The head coach of an NFL team was unsuccessful in his attempt to bench his starting quarterback.
Wow.
MCguidance
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Somoene needs an editer for that drivle.
:irony:
ConstruxBoy
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FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Favre was getting pounded. It is admirable to want to stay in, but they need the guy healthy for the playoffs.
Ditkaless Wonders
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I was not there.
I hate the Vikings.
I think Childress is a putz.
I would love termoil on the Vikes.
That said:
Maybe Childress did not try to sit Favre, but rather only broached the subject to see how Favre was feeling. Favre, being competitive, and realizing he might lose the team if he sat down in the face of adversity while the game was still in doubt just to protect himself physically, objected. Smart move by Favre then.
On the other hand if Childress said you are benched, I'm sick of your ignoring the called play and Favre basically blew him off, well then this is a heck of a story.
No matter the spin they will put on it today, the team knows the truth of the matter.
I hate the Vikings.
I think Childress is a putz.
I would love termoil on the Vikes.
That said:
Maybe Childress did not try to sit Favre, but rather only broached the subject to see how Favre was feeling. Favre, being competitive, and realizing he might lose the team if he sat down in the face of adversity while the game was still in doubt just to protect himself physically, objected. Smart move by Favre then.
On the other hand if Childress said you are benched, I'm sick of your ignoring the called play and Favre basically blew him off, well then this is a heck of a story.
No matter the spin they will put on it today, the team knows the truth of the matter.
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FunkyPlutos
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Sabertooth
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This is shocking to me that Brett would hold himself in such regard. He probably said to Chilly "I know I can still play."
Green and Gold
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Wait...Childress wanted to bench the QB of a top playoff team in the midst of a season where he's top 5 in MVP talk? When he's up 7-6?
That's either fishy or completely ######ed.
That's either fishy or completely ######ed.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
Didn't watch the game last night, huh?
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
10 pages...
Ditka is God
Footballguy
I read somewhere that he tried to bench Favre because he was concerned about the beating Favre was taking. If that's the case, I don't blame Favre at all for saying no. That said, I do believe Childress is one of the worst coaches in the NFL. I was surprised they didn't roll Favre out more and the play calling was highly suspect. Also, the time management at the end of the first half was highly suspect. But Carolina outplayed them from the opening whistle IMO and deserved to win the game.
Tau837
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Agreed...and I would not blame Favre in a way. The guy wants to be out there competing in this instance.I blame Childress, if he truely wanted to bench him, for not having the stones to do it.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I agree to an extent. Either way, not good. The Vikes have lost 2 of their last 3 and appear to be spiraling downward.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Well, I hope it keeps spiraling...but we will see if there is anything to this...or just a "schizm"I agree to an extent. Either way, not good. The Vikes have lost 2 of their last 3 and appear to be spiraling downward.
Jeremy
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I don't understand why so many people are surprised by this. Childress surrendered control of the team to Favre the minute he picked him up at the airport. Everyone knows this. Favre has never been afraid to use the power he has to do what he thinks is best for Favre. Remember several years ago he tried to leverage his return to get TT to aquire Randy Moss and some coaches he wanted. This is not new behavior from Favre for those of us who have been paying attention. The only surprising thing is that Childress dared even attempting to suggest that Favre come out of the game. He should have known that wasn't going to happen.
FavreCo
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
I agree. I always think of it in terms of this: Everyone always says how Favre acts like a big kid out there, slinging the ball around, having fun just like a kid. The only problem with that is the fact that he acts like a kid outside the lines as well and there it isn't so endearing. Kids are great when they are playing t-ball and having fun, but the same kids are the ones that hold their breath at bed time and stomp their feet at the mall. He's an emotional teenager at best. He quits when he doesn't get his way. He tries to manipulate those in authority.
fatness
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You can't blame a QB for not wanting to come out.I'd guess his contract makes it clear he can only be benched with his permission.
Spuds_McKenzie
Footballguy
Not that it provides much that you can't from TV, but I was at the game last night, freezing my butt off.
All I can say is that when you get to watch the entire field and not what's shown on camera, you do see stuff you otherwise wouldn't.
Favre had no time to throw the ball, and when he did, the coverage was VERY good all over the field. There were NO plays where I found he made a mistake in his decisions except for the pass to Harvin that was tipped and almost intercepted late in the game. He had Harvin open earlier and just flat out threw it too high.
The Panthers were ALL over the run, it was like they KNEW the Vikes were going to run the ball.
All that said, I'm a Vikings homer, and if they would have pulled Favre and put in Tjoke, I don't think it would have done much good except maybe save Favre from a couple of sacks; none of which where what I'd call killer hits. I have a hard time believing Favre was going to be pulled in that game. He wasn't throwing picks, and while he had a couple bad throws, there wasn't much for him to work with honestly.
Either way, if Favre refused to be benched after Childress said 'You're benched', then this is going to get real juicy.
All I can say is that when you get to watch the entire field and not what's shown on camera, you do see stuff you otherwise wouldn't.
Favre had no time to throw the ball, and when he did, the coverage was VERY good all over the field. There were NO plays where I found he made a mistake in his decisions except for the pass to Harvin that was tipped and almost intercepted late in the game. He had Harvin open earlier and just flat out threw it too high.
The Panthers were ALL over the run, it was like they KNEW the Vikes were going to run the ball.
All that said, I'm a Vikings homer, and if they would have pulled Favre and put in Tjoke, I don't think it would have done much good except maybe save Favre from a couple of sacks; none of which where what I'd call killer hits. I have a hard time believing Favre was going to be pulled in that game. He wasn't throwing picks, and while he had a couple bad throws, there wasn't much for him to work with honestly.
Either way, if Favre refused to be benched after Childress said 'You're benched', then this is going to get real juicy.
JGalligan
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Isn't this the same coach who called Favre back THREE WEEKS after he'd declined "for real" for the last time -- just so that he could make sure he really, REALLY didn't want to play for Minnesota? Dude's obviously got some some major commitment issues. Maybe if he didn't flip-flop in his decision making his team would respect his authority more.
Jeremy
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This is one version I'm hearing as well. That he thought it was time to rest him for the playoffs. If that's true, Childress is an even bigger idiot that I thought. He's not in that position yet. He's got Philly breathing down their neck and the Saints right in front of them. They needed that game. Maybe not "must win", but it was potentially an important game. It could end up costing them a first round bye. My understanding is that Philly has the tiebreaker if they win out and Minny loses one more game.
Michael Fox Fan
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They DID know when the Vikes were going to run. McKinnie has a "tell" that gives away which plays are running plays. Arizona's defense talked about it after the game 2 weeks ago. Of course, Chilly and co. aren't good enough coaches to fix the "tell", so it continues still.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
It's impossible for Chilly to be more of an idiot than most of us think.
Michael Fox Fan
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Spuds_McKenzie
Footballguy
Actually it wasn't the Zona players who noted it, it was Tony Boselli on Westwood One radio who noted that McKinnie appeared to have a 'tell', and "supposedly" it has been corrected.Chip Scoggins, of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings OT Bryant McKinnie tips off defenders about whether a play will be a run or pass based on his footwork and the way he positions his body before the snap, according to Westwood analyst Tony Boselli. McKinnie admitted after practice Wednesday, Dec. 9, that he noticed some things in his three-point stance that he is working to correct this week. He said he doesn’t have the same issues when he is in the two-point stance.
http://www.fantasysp.com/player/nfl/Bryant_McKinnie/687620
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Well, they fixed it...by benching him last night.Funny how he leads the NFC in fan votes for the pro bowl and gets benched.
Michael Fox Fan
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He looked absolutely horrible last night. Peppers owned him, particularly right before the benching. McKinnie must not have wanted to stay in the game as much as Favre.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Or Chilly had McKinnie off getting hot chocolate for Favre...and his hat...and anything else Brett wanted.
Spuds_McKenzie
Footballguy
Agreed. McKinnie is, and IMO has been overrated. He's lazy. Period.His weakness was always getting burned by speed rushers, but last night Peppers had him on his heels often with the bullrush.
