gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
wouldn't a 1 week wonder be a guy who's never had success in the past? For all his faults, Brown has a 1k season under his belt.Ivanhoe said:
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Chris Brown thread (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter grizz101
- Start date
NinerK
Footballguy
I was just going to post similar comments. Just saw the highlights on NFLN and Brown looked effen awesome. Strong and fast. Not bad for my 5th RB
Keeping him, I'm a believer.My Hope Street Alias
Footballguy
Wow, I would've guessed older.Let's see...First QuarterIvanhoe said:
1-10-TEN 20 (3:19) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 25 for 5 yards (52-D.Smith).
2-5-TEN 25 (2:44) 29-C.Brown left end to TEN 30 for 5 yards (53-P.Thomas).
2-2-TEN 38 (1:20) (Shotgun) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 42 for 4 yards (99-M.Stroud).
Second Quarter
1-10-JAC 33 (14:24) 29-C.Brown up the middle to JAX 9 for 24 yards (54-M.Peterson; 26-S.Knight).
2-10-TEN 37 (4:03) 29-C.Brown up the middle to JAX 21 for 42 yards (29-B.Williams).
1-10-JAC 21 (3:19) (Shotgun) 10-V.Young pass short middle to 29-C.Brown to JAX 18 for 3 yards (54-M.Peterson).
3-1-JAC 12 (2:00) 29-C.Brown left end to JAX 10 for 2 yards (29-B.Williams).
1-10-JAC 10 (1:26) 29-C.Brown up the middle to JAX 7 for 3 yards (54-M.Peterson).
Third Quarter
1-5-TEN 26 (7:17) 29-C.Brown left end to TEN 30 for 4 yards (29-B.Williams).
2-1-TEN 30 (6:38) 29-C.Brown left end to TEN 32 for 2 yards (98-J.Henderson).
1-10-JAC 48 (5:38) 29-C.Brown up the middle to JAX 34 for 14 yards (43-G.Sensabaugh).
1-10-JAC 34 (5:00) 29-C.Brown up the middle to JAX 21 for 13 yards (25-R.Nelson).
2-4-JAC 4 (1:43) (Shotgun) 29-C.Brown up the middle to JAX 2 for 2 yards (93-B.McCray).
(Too bad Young vultured that 2 yard TD or his numbers would have been even more interesting today.)
Fourth Quarter
1-10-TEN 8 (11:57) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 16 for 8 yards (53-P.Thomas).
2-2-TEN 16 (11:23) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 27 for 11 yards (26-S.Knight).
1-10-TEN 27 (10:40) (Shotgun) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 32 for 5 yards (52-D.Smith).
1-10-TEN 28 (7:46) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 36 for 8 yards (21-T.Cousin).
2-2-TEN 36 (7:09) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 49 for 13 yards (52-D.Smith).
1-10-TEN 27 (2:46) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 34 for 7 yards (99-M.Stroud).
2-4-TEN 46 (1:54) 29-C.Brown up the middle to TEN 49 for 3 yards (99-M.Stroud).
Seemed to get stronger as the game wore on. Check out those fourth quarter number. Also notice how many were up the middle. All this against a very respectable Jacksonville Defense. This guy's tough at HT: 6-3, WT: 219, 26 years old and not a lot of tread on the tires. Just food for thought.
JHuber77
Footballguy
JHuber77
Footballguy
Raiders Fan
The Black Hole
White didn't and he only had 1 less carry.. Explain then..Wadsworth said:
Arnold. S
Footballguy
maybe the Titans Oline made holes, they were big enough holes for Chris Brown to run through but not lendale white
Traders2001
Footballguy
I dont think you watched him play before , barring injuries he is one of the best ( In his first season he was putting up 100 yds in most first half before sitting the second with turf toe or other injuries )If he can play injury free he is ( Talent wise ) one of the top RB in the NFL . White will ride the pine full time by week 4 .Ivanhoe said:
Traders2001
Footballguy
That s the best reply i have read in a few years , you made my day.
Verbal Kint
Footballguy
Boulder Toads
Footballguy
Good point, and as someone who "sold high" on Henry last year, I'm a bit gunshy to do the same with Brown. I have solid RB depth (Brown is sitting as my RB4), but would like to dish Brown away for some QB help (I waited too long, snapping up RB "value" and now am choosing btwn Alex Smith & Sexy Rexy).At this point, I'm thinking of dangling Brown out there and potentially take advantage of some of the week 1 RB injuries. My feeling however, is that the "buyers market" will want to see a repeat performance against IND before trade talks will really get serious.
Last edited by a moderator:
Saw some clips on Sportscenter...reminded me of his big breakout game against Nebraska when he was at Colorado. Run up the middle, squeeze past the linebacker/safety and get into the open field. I echo the good post on squeezing through the holes that Lendale couldn't squirt through...it's one of the few things that his "upright running style" is actually suited for. I wonder how long that will last if VY can't keep the defenses honest with his arm. As long as TEN creates some side to side movement with VY and swing/screen passes, I think he'll be pretty good this year with runs up the middle. Hopefully Chow's bias for Lendale doesn't keep him on the bench...
Shiggy Shaol
Footballguy
Keep going, fellas! I'm in a league with small rosters and I'm wondering if I drafted the wrong Titan RB! Brown is sitting there on the waiver wire while Lendale is on my roster!
ScoobyDoo
Footballguy
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
:rotflmao:
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
As a local guy that sees/hears a lot about the Titans -- here's the deal. Their O-Line is pretty dang good. Very good, actually. You saw that develop over the 2nd half of the season last year. They just went to Jax and manhandled what could be one of the top 2-3 DLines in the NFL.
Kevin Mawae was on the radio this morning and said that at one point in the 2nd half, they ran the exact same play 4-5 times in a row. After 2-3 of them, he told the guy across from him that they were running that same play...and still ran it down there throat.
I think part of the yardage difference between Brown and White was that Brown got the majority of the 2nd half carries, while Lendale got the 1st half carries.
IF Brown can stay healthy, I say he'll put up 1,000 yards -- easy -- with only 200-235 carries. You'll continue to see both of the RBs play, much like yesterday.
Kevin Mawae was on the radio this morning and said that at one point in the 2nd half, they ran the exact same play 4-5 times in a row. After 2-3 of them, he told the guy across from him that they were running that same play...and still ran it down there throat.
I think part of the yardage difference between Brown and White was that Brown got the majority of the 2nd half carries, while Lendale got the 1st half carries.
IF Brown can stay healthy, I say he'll put up 1,000 yards -- easy -- with only 200-235 carries. You'll continue to see both of the RBs play, much like yesterday.
bocksheesh
Footballguy
I think that's right. And if you're inclined to be optimistic about Brown this season, the key difference is that the guy is now rock in the upper body, with huge arms, and presumably strong core. That makes a big difference in staving off injuries - particularly of the ticky tacky variety which Brown has seemed to specialize in.If you looked at Brown in season's past, I was always struck not by how tall and upright he ran, but just by how thin and wirey he looked for a RB. He darn near looked like a WR out there. You can't take a season of abuse at the RB position when you're that lean.So, we'll see. Brown could go and get hurt in Week 2 for all we know. But from Eddie George - a big back who was always ripped himself and managed to play for a long time - praising Brown's upper body in the preseason to just seeing the guy rip through holes, I have a good feeling about Brown.And I like him over Lendale White - who is no less an injury liability.I took Brown 4 rounds after Lendale went, and am feeling good about that pick.
plymkr
Footballguy
I think JLew sucks. I'd take my chances on Brown if I could. Try and trade JLew for a receiver w/upside or JJ for that matter. If Brown stays healthy he'll be gold. That is the big if, but it would only take a few games of this to equal JLew's whole season on an inept Cleveland team. Do you want to win the whole thing? or just be competitive?BaBastage said:
I posted this in a thread back in late July. This is an excerpt from Jeff Fisher's July 26th Press conference. The point is that Fisher has never been a RBBC guy. Last year, people thought it was going to be RBBC, and look how Henry turned out. So IMO this is a situation where I look for Brown to get the majority of the carries (18-22 a game) and Lendale to get about 10 per game.
Jeff Fisher (on the running back situation)
Realistically you’re going to end up with a starter and a backup. If your third runner is on the active roster on game day he’s going to have to carry a significant special teams role and responsibilities. I would think that, barring injuries, the starter is going to get somewhere around 275 to close to 300 carries. The backup ends up with 100 to 125 carries and then the third guy is a situation guy that you utilize. But then those things will be worked out. But as we do that, we also have to build reps with each one of the backs. I can’t tell you which back is going to start for us right now, but we have to get them all ready to be the starter. So we’ll build the reps. You’re going to see all three or potentially four of these backs taking six or seven snaps in a row in a practice session. That doesn’t mean they’re going to be a starter, but we have to build their reps up and get them ready for that eight or 10 play drive that you’d expect in a game.
Jeff Fisher (on the running back situation)
Realistically you’re going to end up with a starter and a backup. If your third runner is on the active roster on game day he’s going to have to carry a significant special teams role and responsibilities. I would think that, barring injuries, the starter is going to get somewhere around 275 to close to 300 carries. The backup ends up with 100 to 125 carries and then the third guy is a situation guy that you utilize. But then those things will be worked out. But as we do that, we also have to build reps with each one of the backs. I can’t tell you which back is going to start for us right now, but we have to get them all ready to be the starter. So we’ll build the reps. You’re going to see all three or potentially four of these backs taking six or seven snaps in a row in a practice session. That doesn’t mean they’re going to be a starter, but we have to build their reps up and get them ready for that eight or 10 play drive that you’d expect in a game.
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
It would be interesting to see what Lendale White could do...if he did an off-season conditioning/workout program like Chris Brown.
msommer
Footballguy
Ahhh - this is just a ploy to...
Well, maybe he will feel inclined to do so after this season...
kensat30
Footballguy
Chris Brown has always been a very good RB when healthy. But how long will that last? I expect him to stay healthy for another week, maybe two at the most. The guy is just prone to some punishing, brutal hits. Not only that but he has battled turf toe for his entire career.
Lendale White is the guy you want. He is primed to breakout once Brown is shelved and on the backburner.
Lendale White is the guy you want. He is primed to breakout once Brown is shelved and on the backburner.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Turf toe I'll grant you; that's been his single biggest health issue without question and something he'll need to overcome to get any ongoing success. However, you mention that he is "just prone to punishing, brutal hits" and lose me there. I know that is the fear raised when people talk about an upright rushing style, but to my knowledge none of his prior injuries have resulted from that, nor has Brown taken an unusual amount of "punishing, brutal" hits to my knowledge. Care to elaborate on that? Do you mean to say 'in theory' he is prone to them?
Brown did get more second half carries, but he was still more productive on them:1st halfWhite 12-32 (2-7 receiving)Brown 7-85 (1-3 receiving)2nd halfBrown 12-90White 6-34Now I'm starting to think that this isn't a 50-50 situation after all.Here's another interesting tidbit: Both Brown and White started the game, but White got all the touches on the first two drives (7-21 rushing, 1-8 receiving). On the third drive, Brown goes 4-38, then White comes in at first and goal and goes 3-4.After four drives, the totals are:White 11-26Brown 4-38From then on:Brown 15-137White 7-40The real question now -- has Brown won a feature back role, or will Fisher simply play the hot hand?Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
Thats a good point- being injury prone and having an uprite running style are two seperate issues. Eddie George was a big back that was knocked for his 'upright style' and the guy was a tank most of his career. Brown has been missing time for different reason- i'd compare him more to Fred Taylor early in his career. If he can overcome that like Taylor did he can have a nice career, much less a good season. My bottom line with Brown vs Lendale predraft was that Brown has proven he can be electric in the NFL while Lendale has proven nothing except his potential to be a pain in the ###. Potential gets you fired.
<_< Lendale owner
Banger
Footballguy
I wouldn't be surprised to see Fisher employ the same strategy since it worked so well. Soften the defense for the 1st qtr with White and come in with the quicker slashing Brown. Seemed to work very well from the Titans POV against a solid defensive front so if you're in Fisher's shoes why would you change the strategy one bit?
As a huge Titans fan who watched every play yesterday, I need to clear up a misconception I have been seeing all over MBs this morning. The basic jist of what people are saying is Lendale is this great Bruiser who wore down the Jags in the first half and then C. Brown came in with the speed and took advantage.In other words people are saying:
Lendale = Power
C. Brown = Speed
This was simply not the case yesterday. C. Brown was Faster, More Poweful, More Explosive, and More Elusive than Lendale White yesterday. I think people are greatly understimating Brown's power and at the same time are saying that because Lendale has the reputation and body type of a bruiser that he is a bruiser. The BRUISER yesterday was Chris Brown. The Cruiser yesterday was C. Brown as well.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
I thought both RBs played well and would gladly welcome any game plan that had the carries divided the way they were yesterday.
Kit Fisto
Footballguy
Fumbling at the goalline is playing well?
Kept him in my dynasty league ... didn't start him b/c I wanted to see what he can do. But he is a good runner. Thing is, as many have posted here already, he is injury-prone. THAT BEING SAID... wasn't it turf toe that was his problem??? I mean, c'mon. The guy probably finally got a shoe made right and maybe he'll be ok. He's worth a flier that's for sure.
Banger
Footballguy
Good post. I didn't see most of White's early runs so I was assuming he was the bruiser. I did see most of Brown's carries and he looked great. His vision, and acceleration into space were tremendous.
Raiders Fan
The Black Hole
There is a good bet Fisher is going to try and keep Brown healthy. Let him touch the ball less and hope. Brown is probably the better back right now.. Can you imagine if White was a lead blocker for Brown?? Having LJ and Jacobs on 1 team I will be forced to use Brown.. I am praying for another good week..
Similar threads
