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Chris Henry to start for Housh again this week (1 Viewer)

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I didn't see this on Curnutte's blog but KFFL is usually pretty accurate.

Bengals | Henry to start Week 3Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:23:42 -0700Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals WR Chris Henry (groin), who is listed as probable for Week 3, will start in place of WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh (heel), even if Houshmandzadeh is ready to play.
 
so who's the guy to start?? with teams like Dallas and SD on a bye this week, i'm sure i'm not the only one who's having roster space issues. and as someone who's got Henry and TJ, i was hoping TJ would go and i could drop Henry for another D without losing the SD Def for good.

basically, does TJ get enough reps to be useful, or is this a sign that Henry may in fact overtake him as the starter going forward? Henry's played well, and TJ has always had injury issues, so i think it's possible. what does everyone else think?

 
Doesn't make sense to me
Henry would get the token start; TJ will be in by the second or third drive and every drive thereafter. It is just to avoid the dis to Henry that as soon as TJ is back, even without practicing, he starts and you sit. Nothing more.
 
Doesn't make sense to me
T.J. hasn't practiced in 3 weeks, Henry has. I think Houshie's timing and conditioning are huge factors in a big game.
TJ has practiced this week though...and if he's good to go, hes the better WR
actually, TJ only participated in light drills yesterday, didn't practice with the team. we'll see what he does today though. i've found a players status at Friday practices as the most reliable indicator of their impact on Sunday
 
The Steelers game will be interesting. On Colin Cowherd's show they were talking to a local reporter about the Bengals-Steelers game. They pointed out that the Steelers sell-out to shut down CJ. In fact, Johnson has only two TDs in his career against the Steelers. On the other hand, Cincinnatti's complimentary receivers have had some big games. They mentioned Housh wiping his cleets with the terrible towel.

Not unreasonable to expect a big game out of Housh/Henry. The question is: from which one?

 
I don't know how much it'll matter who starts as they'll be in a lot of 3-WR sets. As Carson gets all the way back, just expect the offense to open up that much more. When you have 3 NFL starter-quality WR's, you use them all :yes:

 
Here's the actual story.

Link

Bengals notebook

Injuries create opening for McNeal vs. Steelers

BY MARK CURNUTTE | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

Teammates advised a frustrated Reggie McNeal to be patient during his stay on the practice squad.

McNeal, a rookie wide receiver converted from quarterback, didn't have to wait long.

With the Bengals reeling from injuries at receiver, McNeal is likely to dress and play Sunday at Pittsburgh.

"If that's the case, I have to be ready, regardless," McNeal said. "That's why they have me in there. They put me out there to play; I have to be ready and not let us miss a beat without the other players."

McNeal, signed Tuesday off the practice squad, had three receptions for 46 yards and one touchdown in the preseason.

He practiced Thursday - along with fellow receivers Chad Johnson, Kelley Washington and Chris Henry. Henry remained probable with a groin injury.

No. 2 receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh participated in the early portion of practice but missed the 11-on-11 team drills. He remained questionable with a heel injury.

"I could play without practicing," he said. "But at this point, I don't know."

Antonio Chatman (groin) is doubtful and did not practice. Tab Perry (hip) is out.

Perry is the No. 1 kickoff return man. McNeal had four preseason kickoff returns for a 22-yard average.

OTHER INJURIES: Cornerback Deltha O'Neal (knee) returned to practice Thursday and remained probable. Left tackle Levi Jones (ankle) was on the field early but did not participate in team drills.

NEW STARTERS: Safety Kevin Kaesviharn, center Eric Ghiaciuc and Henry will start for Dexter Jackson (ankle), Rich Braham (knee) and Houshmandzadeh, even if the latter can play.

"I think I can understand we all have certain roles we have to fill in order for the team to be successful, and if that means to do what they want me to do, to take a step back and be a role player, I'll do that," said Kaesviharn, who started all 16 regular-season games in 2005.

Ghiaciuc's start will be the second of his career. He'll be face to face with Steelers nose tackle Casey Hampton.

"I've watched film on (Hampton). He's a great athlete, a great competitor," Ghiaciuc said, "but I think I'm capable, and our offensive line will be successful."

Henry had a single-game career-high 113 yards Sunday against Cleveland.

"You have to play real big when you're the second receiver," said Henry, who against the Browns played the most snaps of any game in his career. "Your team is counting on you to go out there and make plays and move the ball."

SAM SAYS: The Bengals have limited their first two opponents to an average of 85 yards a game on the ground.

No need to talk about it, said defensive tackle Sam Adams, who has played a key role in the early turnaround.

"We have to prove that. And until you prove that, you don't talk about those things," Adams said. "There's no better time for us. They're a great running team, and it's no better time than the present."

E-mail mcurnutte@enquirer.com
 
Didn't Washington start last week in place of Housh? I'd love to see Henry crack the starting lineup but I highly doubt that it happens this year. His size/speed/hands seem perfectly suited to evolve into a #1 receiving option in the near future. Obviously with Chad and Housh in town it might not happen in Cincy. Here are some stats on the Bengals receivers.

Henry 6-4 200 (4.52 40 time) 13th WR selected in 2005 (83rd overall) UFA 2010

Housh 6-1 199 (4.38) 27th WR selected in 2001 (205th overall) UFA in 2009

Johnson 6-1 192 (4.27 40 time)8th WR selected in 2001 (36th overall) signed through 2010 with team option in 2011

Washington 6-3 216 (4.42 40 time) 8th WR selected in 2003 (65th overall) UFA in 2007

While Henry has the slowest 40 of all the receivers he seems to have adequate speed to get seperation and his redzone skills are probably the best on the team. It's a crowded situation in Cincy but Henry seems to have star quality.

If only he wasn't a bomb waiting to blow up off the field.

 
Remember the last play of Carson Palmer's playoff game last year against these Steelers?

Yup, that 60+ yd bomb? Guess who caught it? Yes, it was Henry. You think Carson will not be throwing another bomb given how much he wants to beat the Steelers this Sunday? Chad J will be double teamed as usual.....guess who gets it?

 
Curnutte's latest blog:

Friday, September 22, 2006

Houshmandzadeh appears ready to try

Wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh, an important piece of the Bengals offense missing in the first two weeks, participated in 11-on-11 team drills at the end of practice this afternoon and appears ready to try to make his debut in the key division game Sunday at Pittsburgh.

Coach Marvin Lewis would not confirm whether Houshmandzadeh practiced -- the official injury report is not yet available -- but said a decision already has been made about Houshmandzadeh's status for Sunday. The sixth-year receiver tested his injured heel on the mornings of the first two games before determining he could not play.

Cornerback Deltha O'Neal (knee), defensive tackle Sam Adams (knee), left tackle Levi Jones (ankle), left guard Eric Steinbach (back), wide receiver Chris Henry (groin) and linebacker Brian Simmons (knee) all were in their practice jerseys and appeared to have practiced.

Lewis did say doctors told him last week that a week of additional rest for Jones would help him greatly. The week is up, and Jones looks ready to play against the Steelers blitzing defense.

posted by Mark at 2:14 PM
 
The Bengals run a lot of 3 WR sets anyway - and from what I understand, when Henry is on the field, Housh lines up in the slot.

 
so who's the guy to start?? with teams like Dallas and SD on a bye this week, i'm sure i'm not the only one who's having roster space issues. and as someone who's got Henry and TJ, i was hoping TJ would go and i could drop Henry for another D without losing the SD Def for good.basically, does TJ get enough reps to be useful, or is this a sign that Henry may in fact overtake him as the starter going forward? Henry's played well, and TJ has always had injury issues, so i think it's possible. what does everyone else think?
I don't think Henry replaces Housh this or next year. I think the Bengals will continue playing with a lot of 3-wide sets like they have under Marvin with Henry and CJ on the outside and TJ in the slot for those big plays where they need 5-10 yards for a first or if there's a blitz. Henry could easily be the #1 WR for a number of teams, and I feel lucky to be a homer to a team where he's 3RD on the depth chart. So much talent in the WR corps.
The Bengals run a lot of 3 WR sets anyway - and from what I understand, when Henry is on the field, Housh lines up in the slot.
That's correct. Henry might be the best deep-ball receiver on the team even over CJ, but they both are outstanding at it. Henry's 40 time kind of surprised me to see because he plays so much faster than that. He's so tall too.
 
I don't think Henry replaces Housh this or next year. I think the Bengals will continue playing with a lot of 3-wide sets like they have under Marvin with Henry and CJ on the outside and TJ in the slot for those big plays where they need 5-10 yards for a first or if there's a blitz. Henry could easily be the #1 WR for a number of teams, and I feel lucky to be a homer to a team where he's 3RD on the depth chart. So much talent in the WR corps.
What teams could he be a #1 on??
 
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He's not starting for Housh, he's starting. Who cares who starts as long as TJ gets the most looks.

 
I don't think Henry replaces Housh this or next year. I think the Bengals will continue playing with a lot of 3-wide sets like they have under Marvin with Henry and CJ on the outside and TJ in the slot for those big plays where they need 5-10 yards for a first or if there's a blitz. Henry could easily be the #1 WR for a number of teams, and I feel lucky to be a homer to a team where he's 3RD on the depth chart. So much talent in the WR corps.
What teams could he be a #1 on??
Bears, Titans, Buffalo, Vikings, Patriots, Chiefs. Those are the ones that it's not debatable.
 
I don't think Henry replaces Housh this or next year. I think the Bengals will continue playing with a lot of 3-wide sets like they have under Marvin with Henry and CJ on the outside and TJ in the slot for those big plays where they need 5-10 yards for a first or if there's a blitz. Henry could easily be the #1 WR for a number of teams, and I feel lucky to be a homer to a team where he's 3RD on the depth chart. So much talent in the WR corps.
What teams could he be a #1 on??
Bears, Titans, Buffalo, Vikings, Patriots, Chiefs. Those are the ones that it's not debatable.
Not saying I necessarily disagree, but I think there would at least be a debate between Henry and Muhammad, Evans or Williamson.
 
I don't think Henry replaces Housh this or next year. I think the Bengals will continue playing with a lot of 3-wide sets like they have under Marvin with Henry and CJ on the outside and TJ in the slot for those big plays where they need 5-10 yards for a first or if there's a blitz. Henry could easily be the #1 WR for a number of teams, and I feel lucky to be a homer to a team where he's 3RD on the depth chart. So much talent in the WR corps.
What teams could he be a #1 on??
Pats, Chiefs, Vikes, Packers, Bucs, Eagles, 49ers, Titans Possibly: Ravens, Jets, Bills, Bears

 
Didn't Washington start last week in place of Housh? I'd love to see Henry crack the starting lineup but I highly doubt that it happens this year. His size/speed/hands seem perfectly suited to evolve into a #1 receiving option in the near future. Obviously with Chad and Housh in town it might not happen in Cincy. Here are some stats on the Bengals receivers.Henry 6-4 200 (4.52 40 time) 13th WR selected in 2005 (83rd overall) UFA 2010Housh 6-1 199 (4.38) 27th WR selected in 2001 (205th overall) UFA in 2009Johnson 6-1 192 (4.27 40 time)8th WR selected in 2001 (36th overall) signed through 2010 with team option in 2011Washington 6-3 216 (4.42 40 time) 8th WR selected in 2003 (65th overall) UFA in 2007While Henry has the slowest 40 of all the receivers he seems to have adequate speed to get seperation and his redzone skills are probably the best on the team. It's a crowded situation in Cincy but Henry seems to have star quality. If only he wasn't a bomb waiting to blow up off the field.
Those 40 times are bogus. Johnson and TJ are not that fast.
 
Didn't Washington start last week in place of Housh? I'd love to see Henry crack the starting lineup but I highly doubt that it happens this year. His size/speed/hands seem perfectly suited to evolve into a #1 receiving option in the near future. Obviously with Chad and Housh in town it might not happen in Cincy. Here are some stats on the Bengals receivers.Henry 6-4 200 (4.52 40 time) 13th WR selected in 2005 (83rd overall) UFA 2010Housh 6-1 199 (4.38) 27th WR selected in 2001 (205th overall) UFA in 2009Johnson 6-1 192 (4.27 40 time)8th WR selected in 2001 (36th overall) signed through 2010 with team option in 2011Washington 6-3 216 (4.42 40 time) 8th WR selected in 2003 (65th overall) UFA in 2007While Henry has the slowest 40 of all the receivers he seems to have adequate speed to get seperation and his redzone skills are probably the best on the team. It's a crowded situation in Cincy but Henry seems to have star quality. If only he wasn't a bomb waiting to blow up off the field.
Those 40 times are bogus. Johnson and TJ are not that fast.
NFLDraftScout.com has combine numbers back as far as 1999. Here is what they have on these 4:Henry- 4.50Washington- 4.41CJ- 4.57Housh- 4.61 (no combine)
 
Didn't Washington start last week in place of Housh? I'd love to see Henry crack the starting lineup but I highly doubt that it happens this year. His size/speed/hands seem perfectly suited to evolve into a #1 receiving option in the near future. Obviously with Chad and Housh in town it might not happen in Cincy. Here are some stats on the Bengals receivers.Henry 6-4 200 (4.52 40 time) 13th WR selected in 2005 (83rd overall) UFA 2010Housh 6-1 199 (4.38) 27th WR selected in 2001 (205th overall) UFA in 2009Johnson 6-1 192 (4.27 40 time)8th WR selected in 2001 (36th overall) signed through 2010 with team option in 2011Washington 6-3 216 (4.42 40 time) 8th WR selected in 2003 (65th overall) UFA in 2007While Henry has the slowest 40 of all the receivers he seems to have adequate speed to get seperation and his redzone skills are probably the best on the team. It's a crowded situation in Cincy but Henry seems to have star quality. If only he wasn't a bomb waiting to blow up off the field.
Those 40 times are bogus. Johnson and TJ are not that fast.
NFLDraftScout.com has combine numbers back as far as 1999. Here is what they have on these 4:Henry- 4.50Washington- 4.41CJ- 4.57Housh- 4.61 (no combine)
Thanks, those times are what I remember when these guys came out of college. If Chad Johnson had 4.27 speed he'd be unstopable and would have been a top 5 pick out of college.
 
Didn't Washington start last week in place of Housh? I'd love to see Henry crack the starting lineup but I highly doubt that it happens this year. His size/speed/hands seem perfectly suited to evolve into a #1 receiving option in the near future. Obviously with Chad and Housh in town it might not happen in Cincy. Here are some stats on the Bengals receivers.Henry 6-4 200 (4.52 40 time) 13th WR selected in 2005 (83rd overall) UFA 2010Housh 6-1 199 (4.38) 27th WR selected in 2001 (205th overall) UFA in 2009Johnson 6-1 192 (4.27 40 time)8th WR selected in 2001 (36th overall) signed through 2010 with team option in 2011Washington 6-3 216 (4.42 40 time) 8th WR selected in 2003 (65th overall) UFA in 2007While Henry has the slowest 40 of all the receivers he seems to have adequate speed to get seperation and his redzone skills are probably the best on the team. It's a crowded situation in Cincy but Henry seems to have star quality. If only he wasn't a bomb waiting to blow up off the field.
Those 40 times are bogus. Johnson and TJ are not that fast.
NFLDraftScout.com has combine numbers back as far as 1999. Here is what they have on these 4:Henry- 4.50Washington- 4.41CJ- 4.57Housh- 4.61 (no combine)
Thanks, those times are what I remember when these guys came out of college. If Chad Johnson had 4.27 speed he'd be unstopable and would have been a top 5 pick out of college.
I've always felt Chad and Henry both play much faster than the 40 times they are given credit for.
 
Didn't Washington start last week in place of Housh? I'd love to see Henry crack the starting lineup but I highly doubt that it happens this year. His size/speed/hands seem perfectly suited to evolve into a #1 receiving option in the near future. Obviously with Chad and Housh in town it might not happen in Cincy. Here are some stats on the Bengals receivers.Henry 6-4 200 (4.52 40 time) 13th WR selected in 2005 (83rd overall) UFA 2010Housh 6-1 199 (4.38) 27th WR selected in 2001 (205th overall) UFA in 2009Johnson 6-1 192 (4.27 40 time)8th WR selected in 2001 (36th overall) signed through 2010 with team option in 2011Washington 6-3 216 (4.42 40 time) 8th WR selected in 2003 (65th overall) UFA in 2007While Henry has the slowest 40 of all the receivers he seems to have adequate speed to get seperation and his redzone skills are probably the best on the team. It's a crowded situation in Cincy but Henry seems to have star quality. If only he wasn't a bomb waiting to blow up off the field.
Those 40 times are bogus. Johnson and TJ are not that fast.
NFLDraftScout.com has combine numbers back as far as 1999. Here is what they have on these 4:Henry- 4.50Washington- 4.41CJ- 4.57Housh- 4.61 (no combine)
Thanks, those times are what I remember when these guys came out of college. If Chad Johnson had 4.27 speed he'd be unstopable and would have been a top 5 pick out of college.
I've always felt Chad and Henry both play much faster than the 40 times they are given credit for.
I think most players do. You just run faster when there is someone chasing you or you need to catch up to a ball in flight.
 
I don't think Henry replaces Housh this or next year. I think the Bengals will continue playing with a lot of 3-wide sets like they have under Marvin with Henry and CJ on the outside and TJ in the slot for those big plays where they need 5-10 yards for a first or if there's a blitz. Henry could easily be the #1 WR for a number of teams, and I feel lucky to be a homer to a team where he's 3RD on the depth chart. So much talent in the WR corps.
What teams could he be a #1 on??
Bears, Titans, Buffalo, Vikings, Patriots, Chiefs. Those are the ones that it's not debatable.
Get over yourself.Chris Henry can't hold a candle to some of the #1 receivers on those teams. Production MATTERS.

Eddie Kennison's back-to-back 1000+ (including an 1100+) yard seasons laugh in the face of Chris "overrated" Henry.

 
Didn't Washington start last week in place of Housh? I'd love to see Henry crack the starting lineup but I highly doubt that it happens this year. His size/speed/hands seem perfectly suited to evolve into a #1 receiving option in the near future. Obviously with Chad and Housh in town it might not happen in Cincy. Here are some stats on the Bengals receivers.Henry 6-4 200 (4.52 40 time) 13th WR selected in 2005 (83rd overall) UFA 2010Housh 6-1 199 (4.38) 27th WR selected in 2001 (205th overall) UFA in 2009Johnson 6-1 192 (4.27 40 time)8th WR selected in 2001 (36th overall) signed through 2010 with team option in 2011Washington 6-3 216 (4.42 40 time) 8th WR selected in 2003 (65th overall) UFA in 2007While Henry has the slowest 40 of all the receivers he seems to have adequate speed to get seperation and his redzone skills are probably the best on the team. It's a crowded situation in Cincy but Henry seems to have star quality. If only he wasn't a bomb waiting to blow up off the field.
Those 40 times are bogus. Johnson and TJ are not that fast.
NFLDraftScout.com has combine numbers back as far as 1999. Here is what they have on these 4:Henry- 4.50Washington- 4.41CJ- 4.57Housh- 4.61 (no combine)
Thanks, those times are what I remember when these guys came out of college. If Chad Johnson had 4.27 speed he'd be unstopable and would have been a top 5 pick out of college.
I've always felt Chad and Henry both play much faster than the 40 times they are given credit for.
I think most players do. You just run faster when there is someone chasing you or you need to catch up to a ball in flight.
Henry must not be too fast because he keeps being caught by the 5-0. :D
 
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I don't think Henry replaces Housh this or next year. I think the Bengals will continue playing with a lot of 3-wide sets like they have under Marvin with Henry and CJ on the outside and TJ in the slot for those big plays where they need 5-10 yards for a first or if there's a blitz. Henry could easily be the #1 WR for a number of teams, and I feel lucky to be a homer to a team where he's 3RD on the depth chart. So much talent in the WR corps.
What teams could he be a #1 on??
Bears, Titans, Buffalo, Vikings, Patriots, Chiefs. Those are the ones that it's not debatable.
Get over yourself.Chris Henry can't hold a candle to some of the #1 receivers on those teams. Production MATTERS.

Eddie Kennison's back-to-back 1000+ (including an 1100+) yard seasons laugh in the face of Chris "overrated" Henry.
Production doesn't matter if they are a better WR. The more talented players always get their shot. Kennison wouldn't play if he was in Cincy.
 
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Didn't Washington start last week in place of Housh? I'd love to see Henry crack the starting lineup but I highly doubt that it happens this year. His size/speed/hands seem perfectly suited to evolve into a #1 receiving option in the near future. Obviously with Chad and Housh in town it might not happen in Cincy. Here are some stats on the Bengals receivers.Henry 6-4 200 (4.52 40 time) 13th WR selected in 2005 (83rd overall) UFA 2010Housh 6-1 199 (4.38) 27th WR selected in 2001 (205th overall) UFA in 2009Johnson 6-1 192 (4.27 40 time)8th WR selected in 2001 (36th overall) signed through 2010 with team option in 2011Washington 6-3 216 (4.42 40 time) 8th WR selected in 2003 (65th overall) UFA in 2007While Henry has the slowest 40 of all the receivers he seems to have adequate speed to get seperation and his redzone skills are probably the best on the team. It's a crowded situation in Cincy but Henry seems to have star quality. If only he wasn't a bomb waiting to blow up off the field.
Those 40 times are bogus. Johnson and TJ are not that fast.
NFLDraftScout.com has combine numbers back as far as 1999. Here is what they have on these 4:Henry- 4.50Washington- 4.41CJ- 4.57Housh- 4.61 (no combine)
Thanks, those times are what I remember when these guys came out of college. If Chad Johnson had 4.27 speed he'd be unstopable and would have been a top 5 pick out of college.
I've always felt Chad and Henry both play much faster than the 40 times they are given credit for.
I think most players do. You just run faster when there is someone chasing you or you need to catch up to a ball in flight.
Henry must not be too fast because he keeps being caught by the 5-0. :D
But he's slippery enough to still be on the field on Sundays, somehow.
 
Steelers defense v. the pass is suspect.

Chad will likely go for 6 rec. 100 + and TD

Housh's first game is bound to be a little rusty. He and Chris Henry should have comparable numbers. I would not be surprised if either of them scores, but if I had to guess who, I would say Housh at 60% and Henry at 40 % chance of paydirt.

 

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