Chris Ivory to the Cards or Pack? (1 Viewer)

[gradin123]

I have no source just speculating that the Saints should be trading him and now they would seem to have some interested teams.

Chris Ivory is healthy and benched in New Orleans. He is a free agent after this year and Saints are going nowhere with that defense.

It seems like the Saints should be heavily peddling him right now to the Cardinals or Packers. They probably wouldn't get a lot but isn't it better to trade him now rather than losing him after the season for nothing?

 

[Run It Up]

Im not a fan of him personally, but I dont think he is going anywhere.

Or rather, no one is gonna pay what he is worth the NO.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

If they don't plan on using Ingram, deal him for a higher pick.

I see the Pack using 3-headed again with Starks/Green/Kuhn.

Cards/Hightower reunion will happen if he's healthy (which doesn't sound like he is). They'll have to sign someone.

 

[gradin123]

Im not a fan of him personally, but I dont think he is going anywhere.Or rather, no one is gonna pay what he is worth the NO.

Well he won't be back in New orleans after this year. He wants to play, and can't see why the Saints wouldn't peddle him.

 

[gradin123]

If they don't plan on using Ingram, deal him for a higher pick. I see the Pack using 3-headed again with Starks/Green/Kuhn. Cards/Hightower reunion will happen if he's healthy (which doesn't sound like he is). They'll have to sign someone.

I don't think the Pack would trade for him because they HATE trading draft picks which of course was the reason they didn't go after Marshawn Lynch when he was available. But the Cardinals are more desperate and really need to get a back for the future as well as for right now. Hightower doesn't sound like he is ready and the other free agent alternatives are all pretty poor. Ivory has shown the ability to be a starting RB in the league but just is buried in New Orleans right now.I don't see the Saints giving up on Ingram yet. I guess they could trade Pierre Thomas too if they wanted to get more but he is a leader on that team so it doesn't seem likely they would do that.

 

[gradin123]

Im not a fan of him personally, but I dont think he is going anywhere.Or rather, no one is gonna pay what he is worth the NO.

Well what is he worth to NO? He is sitting on the bench and will leave as a free agent after this year. I don't see the logic in keeping him as insurance for this year when it is cleear the Saints are going nowhere anyways. I don't think the Saints could expect to get much for him but wouldn't a 4th round pick be better than nothing?

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Silly to deal Thomas. He's the one multi-dimensional back they have.

Ingram in = run situation

Sproles in = pass situation

Thomas in = either

And he's unquestionably been a much better runner than Ingram for the past 1.5 years.

 

[gradin123]

Silly to deal Thomas. He's the one multi-dimensional back they have. Ingram in = run situation Sproles in = pass situationThomas in = eitherAnd he's unquestionably been a much better runner than Ingram for the past 1.5 years.

I agree 100% but Thomas is being underused in New Orleans, he is their best all around back but he is being wasted. I have never seen a team rotate their backs more than New Orleans, they literally rotate them after nearly every play. It seems to be me they must be fatigued from just running off and on the field. Where the heck Ivory would ever fit in is a mystery to me unless he just replaced Ingram which isn't happening anytime soon. They might as well trade Ivory because he won't be back as it stands now.Ivory has shown a lot of talent his only problem is fumbling but that is the same problem Ryan Williams had and it didn't stop the Cards from using him. If Ivory did become a Card I could see him as their starter almost right away.

 

[Run It Up]

Im not a fan of him personally, but I dont think he is going anywhere.Or rather, no one is gonna pay what he is worth the NO.

Well what is he worth to NO? He is sitting on the bench and will leave as a free agent after this year. I don't see the logic in keeping him as insurance for this year when it is cleear the Saints are going nowhere anyways. I don't think the Saints could expect to get much for him but wouldn't a 4th round pick be better than nothing?

Hes worth the peace of mind to the team, if Ingram or PT go down he can fill in, he knows the system, has performed well in the past, hes great depth.I guess the way I should have stated it is, I think the Saints value him more than his market value which is imo less than a 4th.

 

[gradin123]

Im not a fan of him personally, but I dont think he is going anywhere.Or rather, no one is gonna pay what he is worth the NO.

Well what is he worth to NO? He is sitting on the bench and will leave as a free agent after this year. I don't see the logic in keeping him as insurance for this year when it is cleear the Saints are going nowhere anyways. I don't think the Saints could expect to get much for him but wouldn't a 4th round pick be better than nothing?

Hes worth the peace of mind to the team, if Ingram or PT go down he can fill in, he knows the system, has performed well in the past, hes great depth.I guess the way I should have stated it is, I think the Saints value him more than his market value which is imo less than a 4th.

It the Saints were good I could see that logic but this Saints team is going nowhere, they wouldn't have beat the Chargers if not for some horrid and unbalanced officiating. Why let an asset waste away on the bench when it is pretty much a given he will bolt after this year. If Ingram would go down I'm also pretty sure Thomas and Sproles could handle his carries BTW. A 6-10 team doesn't need to be 4 deep at RB.

 

[Tornacl]

Im not a fan of him personally, but I dont think he is going anywhere.Or rather, no one is gonna pay what he is worth the NO.

Well what is he worth to NO? He is sitting on the bench and will leave as a free agent after this year. I don't see the logic in keeping him as insurance for this year when it is cleear the Saints are going nowhere anyways. I don't think the Saints could expect to get much for him but wouldn't a 4th round pick be better than nothing?

I can see the Saints trading him, but there's NO WAY they would get a 4th round pick for him, and I doubt they could get a 5th round pick for him. Maybe a sixth, but my guess would be a 7th with a conditional clause that could move up to a 6th depending on his production and/or re-signing with the team.

 

[packersfan]

The Packers aren't going to trade for him.

I wouldn't offer more than a conditional sixth for him. He's OK but he's not that good.

 

[saintfool]

ivory runs hard - almost violently - but he's pretty useless in the passing game. a 2-down RB with fumbling and injury issues is not worth a lot to other teams.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

People love to speculate on potential trades whenever a team loses a player (especially RB), but teams have a depth chart for a reason. These trades seldom actually happen.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

It the Saints were good I could see that logic but this Saints team is going nowhere,

NFL teams really don't think like this.

 

[Grahamburn]

I have no source

Oh.

 

[Hoosier16]

Cardinals are more desperate and really need to get a back for the future as well as for right now.

They need an offensive line for now and the future.

 

[Steed]

The Packers aren't going to trade for him. I wouldn't offer more than a conditional sixth for him. He's OK but he's not that good.

Isn't that exactly what the Pack gave up for Ryan grant when they were stuck starting Brandon Jackson?

 

[Grimace59]

With all the suspensions to the coaching staff and front office do they even make a trade for of their players. I would love for Ivory to get shot somewhere, but they won't make a move with the GM and Headcoach suspended.

 

[Kleck]

I don't think the Pack would trade for him because they HATE trading draft picks which of course was the reason they didn't go after Marshawn Lynch when he was available.

Thompson didn't hate trading draft picks this past April. There were media talks after the trade that the Packers did indeed make an offer for Lynch. As did other teams. IIRC, it was a 4th and 5th, but the Bills felt Seattle's 4th was going to be higher so they declined. No team was willing to trade a 3rd like Buffalo had been asking for. There's probably a link buried somewhere in the Lynch Trade thread.

 

[The Kerminator]

The Packers aren't going to trade for him. I wouldn't offer more than a conditional sixth for him. He's OK but he's not that good.

Isn't that exactly what the Pack gave up for Ryan grant when they were stuck starting Brandon Jackson?

Packers are not going to trade for Ivory. They have Kuhn, Starks, Green and Saine. Will roll with Starks and Green and Kuhn for the short yardage. Not sure Ivory is better than either Starks or Green so why would they?

 

[Kleck]

The Packers aren't going to trade for him. I wouldn't offer more than a conditional sixth for him. He's OK but he's not that good.

I agree. I'd see what we got in Green before making any trades.

 

[gradin123]

I don't think the Pack would trade for him because they HATE trading draft picks which of course was the reason they didn't go after Marshawn Lynch when he was available.

Thompson didn't hate trading draft picks this past April. There were media talks after the trade that the Packers did indeed make an offer for Lynch. As did other teams. IIRC, it was a 4th and 5th, but the Bills felt Seattle's 4th was going to be higher so they declined. No team was willing to trade a 3rd like Buffalo had been asking for. There's probably a link buried somewhere in the Lynch Trade thread.

LOL. In retrospect I think Lynch was worth a 3rd round pick. Who did they pick in the 3rd round? Oh yeah Alex Green. Think the pack would rather Lynch or Green right now?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

LOL. In retrospect I think Lynch was worth a 3rd round pick. Who did they pick in the 3rd round? Oh yeah Alex Green. Think the pack would rather Lynch or Green right now?

Lynch at roughly $5.5 million this year, or Alex Green for $700,000 or so is a heck of a lot closer call given the relative unimportance of the position.

 

[gradin123]

LOL. In retrospect I think Lynch was worth a 3rd round pick. Who did they pick in the 3rd round? Oh yeah Alex Green. Think the pack would rather Lynch or Green right now?

Lynch at roughly $5.5 million this year, or Alex Green for $700,000 or so is a heck of a lot closer call given the relative unimportance of the position.

Don't tell Seattle it is an umiportant position. Lynch is their whole offense.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

LOL. In retrospect I think Lynch was worth a 3rd round pick. Who did they pick in the 3rd round? Oh yeah Alex Green. Think the pack would rather Lynch or Green right now?

Lynch at roughly $5.5 million this year, or Alex Green for $700,000 or so is a heck of a lot closer call given the relative unimportance of the position.

Don't tell Seattle it is an umiportant position. Lynch is their whole offense.

They might lose a couple hundred yards over 16 games if Turbin was in there, but they'd be OK. Well, as OK as they are now.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Some fire behind the smoke...

AzCardinals.com suggests New Orleans' Chris Ivory as a potential trade target at running back.

However, reporter Darren Urban believes it's much more likely the Cardinals look to the free agent market than trade market to fortify what's become a position of need following Ryan Williams' placement on injured reserve. Buried on the depth chart behind Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles and Mark Ingram, Ivory has yet to be active this season.

Related: Cardinals

Source: AzCardinals.com

Oct 9 - 9:32 PM

 

[cobalt_27]

Why wouldn't these teams go after DeAngelo?

Oh wait, that's right, CAR ownership is so phenomenally stupid, they not only paid the entire GDP of several small countries to pay for DW to be irrelevant on the sidelines, they also priced themselves out of any potential trade suitors.

Never mind, back to Chris Ivory...

 

[asuterlowe]

LOL. In retrospect I think Lynch was worth a 3rd round pick. Who did they pick in the 3rd round? Oh yeah Alex Green. Think the pack would rather Lynch or Green right now?

Lynch at roughly $5.5 million this year, or Alex Green for $700,000 or so is a heck of a lot closer call given the relative unimportance of the position.

Don't tell Seattle it is an umiportant position. Lynch is their whole offense.

They might lose a couple hundred yards over 16 games if Turbin was in there, but they'd be OK. Well, as OK as they are now.

Yeah rookie qb and rookie rb. the key to success

 

[ConnSKINS26]

LOL. In retrospect I think Lynch was worth a 3rd round pick. Who did they pick in the 3rd round? Oh yeah Alex Green. Think the pack would rather Lynch or Green right now?

Lynch at roughly $5.5 million this year, or Alex Green for $700,000 or so is a heck of a lot closer call given the relative unimportance of the position.

Don't tell Seattle it is an umiportant position. Lynch is their whole offense.

They might lose a couple hundred yards over 16 games if Turbin was in there, but they'd be OK. Well, as OK as they are now.

Yeah rookie qb and rookie rb. the key to success

If it werent for a horrendous defense, it would be working just fine for the Skins.