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Is this guy being for real? Or is he just toying with his fans? I heard some ppl believe that the Titans just fed him the ball last year cause they knew it was a doomed season and wanted to get him 2K.What are your feelings on this? Do you think Jeff Fischer would jump on CJ2K's statement?
No.It's a very, very rare thing for a RB to fly through a season without fighting through an assortment of ailments. It's a violent sport, and strong, angry men hit you hard and often.If Adrian Peterson twists an ankle, he ices it and instead of 150 all purpose yards and a TD, he bulldozes to 115 and a TD. If Chris Johnson twists an ankle, he doesn't get past the line of scrimmage all day.He caught lightning in a bottle, and he's a sublime talent. But counting on a repeat performance when he has to walk such a razor's edge to perform as he does is walking on eggshells. Counting on an improvement is just nuts.
I'm not saying Cj is going to get 2500 yards but have you seen Chris Johnson run on a twisted ankle before? Plus, the last time AP twisted his ankle he averaged over 4 yards a carry in a game once out of the next 9 games. But he did manage to get 115 yards and a touchdown somehow, so I'll give you that.I agree that anyone who thinks he will get 2500 yards is crazy but saying it's impossible is just as crazy. There's always a chance he turns 7 more 4 yard carries into 60+ yard carries than he did last year even if it's a small chance.
He is a great talent. No player has ever run for even 2,000 in back to back seasons. Not Barry Sanders, not Emmitt Smith, not Walter Payton, not Eric Dickerson....the best rbs ever to play did not have back to back years with 2,000 rushing yards. In fact, no 2,000 yard rusher has ever followed it up with a 1,500 yard season. The bottom line is that, for a player to rush for 2,000 yards, a perfect combination of talent, health, luck, and opportunity must simultaneously occur for an entire season. The odds are strongly against that happening in back to back seasons.
how many yards would he have had to say he was going to get before it reached ***impossible***I think in a 16 game season that asking one man and one team to need more than 150 yards rushing per game is truly impossible.I could believe 2200, I could believe 2300but to increase the all-time best record by over 20% under the current set of rules is by all accounts, impossible.
We play Houston twice. There's 600 of it right there.
But he's obviously delusional. If he gets to 1,500 that would be a really good season. I think the Titans will be pushing for a wild card spot and Javon Ringer will get more chances to spell CJ.
if he hits 1500, it'd be the best post-2000 yard season in the history of the NFL.By my calculations, 3142 yards is the threshold of possibility.
If you say he can get 2300, than he can get 2500. Just a few more long runs. 2500 yards is around 156 yards a game. You would need several games during the season of 200+ yards. He average 5.6 ypc last year. If he could get a slight increase in 5.8 ypc and average 27 carries a game, thats 2500 right there. Highly unlikely, but no way impossible.The guy's entire game -- his ENTIRE game -- is based on speed. He gets to the spot before the defense can get there, and either takes a very soft hit from a defensive player lucky to catch up, or takes off for the promised land. Against legitimately fast defenses like Pittsburgh during one of the few weeks they had a healthy Polamalu, or Indy, CJ struggled. Against most others, he dominated. Take away a step of that quickness, and he's Darren McFadden.It's not predicting injury to suggest that almost every RB will have to play a step or two slow for a quarter of each season. Those kind of dings are the norm, not the exception. If he has anything but exceptional luck in both avoiding little dings that sap even a touch of his speed, and exceptional luck in meeting the fastest D's during weeks when their most athletic defenders are absent, then he has no chance at those kinds of numbers. No one does.But FTR, Jerome Harrison's end-of-season starts project out to 3k yds.
According to the science of possibility you'd have to figure out how many yards a player could run for in the given amount of time of a season. A one in a billion chance is still a chance and not impossible. I may be nitpicking but I'm not lying.
That's fine.and you're correct.Theoretically if somehow someway the Titans were to sign every all-pro lineman (forget the defense, in fact, we need a REALLY bad one that allows VERY quick scores so we can get back on offense immediately)Then all the defensive players in the nfl (only them for some reason) went on strike and every team that walked in was fielding a team of undrafted lame players.Then we have a coaching philosophy where you run on at least 75% of plays, and are not playing to win, the only goal is playing to garner Chris Johnson statistics. Chris doesn't come out unless he's REALLY struggling to get his wind.And he does not get hurt or even dinged up on any plays throughout the season.Under these circumstances, it's safe to assume he could get nearly 45 carries a game or 700 on the season. and he's going to get 6 yards a pop against these terrible defenses. It might be more, but even this lame defense is going to realize they are running 75% of the time.So.. in my hypothetical scenario... I guess 2500 is easy, because he's gonna get like 4200-4300 yards.With a few breaks, 5000 isn't too far out of reach.I wonder how many yards CJ could get if he went back and played high school ball? 400 yards a game X 11 game season - 4400 seems right.
I'd tell my kid to go for the groin.
Even as amazing as CJ's season last season was... he still had to be force fed some carries in the final 2 games to make it happen.now imagine they are in the playoff hunt and want to play using optimal strategy.And he can't afford to have many absolute stinker games like he had last year either.part of his 2000 came from them being out of it and being able to gameplan to get him the #'s.. and that was just for a mere 2000 yards.
Yeah, and Sanders was just a few yards short and was playing with a rookie QB the entire year - and a poor rookie QB at that.Unless CJ starts off the season spectacularly he won't break 2K yards. The Titans force fed him the ball at end of the season and he barely broke 2K yards. They aren't going to do that again.
i agree here.2000 yards, then 425 carries to get 2500 yards would be getting close to burning him out for a career
Sure, but he wouldn't need to be force fed the ball in the final 2 games if he received more carries in the beginning of the season, which I assume he will this year- he only broke 20 carries once in the first 6 games last year. He had a lot of carries overall, but it's not like he set any records there- plenty of RBs have had more in a season. Plus, no one knows how the season is going to shake out- it's entirely possible that they aren't in the playoff hunt again this season, the AFC is pretty stacked.Just saying, I don't think it's likely, but I don't think it's impossible just because it hasn't been done before. I'm talking about 2000 by the way, not 2500.
Fixed. You can't tell me that if you owned CJ that you wouldn't want him to get 2500.
I'm a CJ owner and I don't want him to get 2500. I want him to be a productive member of my Fantasy Team for more than 3 years. I don't NEED him to get 2500 to win the title. I'd rather have some career longevity. Not to mention that yards don't get me nearly as many points as TD's. I'd rather him have 25 TD's than 2500 yards.
depends on how he got it. If the unpossible happened and he had 15 80+ yard runs, then got the other 1300 by averaging 5.5 ypc over 240 carries... see how ludicrous that sounds? CJ's awesome but this is just a crazy guy talking OOHA.
He had one game of under 50 yards, 2 under 80 last year. Which pretty much strengthens the "2500 ain't gonna happen" argument.
???I guess if I was a non-Titans fan and I owned CJ in a re-draft league, I'd want him to get 2500.
While this wouldn't instantly make him the greatest of all-time, it would certainly be the two best seasons of all-time. But it's basically impossible. Teams will not let him have enough daylight to average over 150 yards per game. If the Titans could develop an explosive passing game, maybe he would have a chance. His speed is other-worldly.I think 1500 yards rushing is a great goal for CJ this year, and is where he'll end up.
I think Chris Johnson really believes in himself, which is good. However, I think when you look at it statistically, it borders on impossible.
That's really what matters. If the team is fighting for the playoffs and a game is already won, they're pulling Johnson for Ringer. They're going to need him next week, and the week after and hopefully the playoffs. No reason to wear him down if the game is in hand.Last year they were building interest after a disastrous start and wanted to end the year with something special. They were AWFUL at the beginning, but somehow they ended the year with people thinking good things about them. Mission accomplished.We play Houston twice. There's 600 of it right there.
But he's obviously delusional. If he gets to 1,500 that would be a really good season. I think the Titans will be pushing for a wild card spot and Javon Ringer will get more chances to spell CJ.
Perhaps, but what if you were both a Titans fan and a CJ owner?
less.
He got this when he talked to All Day a bit over a year ago. If you want to be the best you have to think you're the best and always set the bar high. AD's annual goal is always 2k rushing, so is no surprise CJ adds 500 yards to that total.
