Chris Johnson's taunting during game-winning TD (1 Viewer)

[gianmarco]

TO impersonation on the Dallas star

I don't think this was even noticed in the game itself. Should this have been a penalty? Bad sportsmanship? Keep in mind, I know most of us don't agree with how hard the NFL cracks down on some of these celebrations, but I'm asking whether or not it should be flagged in trying to be consistent with other calls by officials in the past.

 

[SproutDaddy]

People actually care about this?

 

[Max Power]

Come on. He was in the endzone, it was all in good fun.

NO WAY should that have been flagged. I dont even see how the NFL could even justify a flag or fine in this case.

 

[DoubleG]

TO impersonation on the Dallas star

I don't think this was even noticed in the game itself. Should this have been a penalty? Bad sportsmanship? Keep in mind, I know most of us don't agree with how hard the NFL cracks down on some of these celebrations, but I'm asking whether or not it should be flagged in trying to be consistent with other calls by officials in the past.

I watched it, knowing that the headline was "CJ Does TO-like Disrespect To Cowboys" - I actually replayed the clip thinking I had missed something. It barely looked like anything beyond a normal TD celebration. I'm no CJ owner or apologist and not a Cowboy fan (not a hater either) - just catching up the NFL news this morning.It seems like the media is WAAAAAYYY overblowing this :shocked:

 

[Multiple Scores]

People actually care about this?

It ranks right ahead of you waiting on deangelo Williams.

 

[Wu-banger]

saw it... recognized what he was doing when it happened..... not a big deal.

The NFL is really starting to kill me with some of its rule changes... End Zone celebrations ,QB treatment, What's a catch (Megatron) force out rule , helmet off rule.

Game is getting weird for the lack of a better term.

 

[NeverEnough]

Nothing was wrong w/it.

 

[road warrior]

Nope.

Now if he tossed the ball to another player who spiked it followed by a chest bump and fall down, then it would be a penalty. Ha.

 

[Sigfawn]

He wasn't mocking TO he was paying homage.

 

[pantagrapher]

Not even close to flag-worthy.

When are the people voting that it should have been flagged going to chime in?

 

[az_prof]

TO impersonation on the Dallas star

I don't think this was even noticed in the game itself. Should this have been a penalty? Bad sportsmanship? Keep in mind, I know most of us don't agree with how hard the NFL cracks down on some of these celebrations, but I'm asking whether or not it should be flagged in trying to be consistent with other calls by officials in the past.

I don't think it should be penalized, but the league is VERY inconsistent on this. Supposedly they have made it known that Jared Allen's customary celebration where he kneels is illegal. It's all stupid. No one watches the games for the referees--we watch because stars make big plays. But guys like Ocho, TO, Moss and a few others get called for celebrations just because the league likes to go after them. It's not consistent, which is why it shouldn't be on the books. It's fundamentally a personal, subjective judgement in terms of whether it is taunting or not.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

No... and the Cowboys' shouldn't have been penalized for it either. It's ######ed.

 

[atl3695]

Not even close to flag-worthy.When are the people voting that it should have been flagged going to chime in?

There all just bitter Cowboys fans

 

[FreeBaGeL]

No, it wasn't a big deal.

What was kind of a big deal is that he actually thought of it in that scenario. I mean, game on the line, your team is trying their hardest to get you into the endzone, you get in.......and you have time to think to yourself "ok, I'm in the endzone baby, right where I want to be. Now I need to put on a show, let's go get some on that star over there".

Call me crazy, but if it were me I would have been jumping up and down and celebrating with my teammates. Some kind of pre-planned celebration, even if I had thought of it prior to the game, would have been the furthest thing from my mind.

EDIT: We also saw this with Vernon Davis this week, who after a big catch on the last drive could be seen posing for the crowd while the rest of the 9ers were trying to get on the line to spike the ball.

 

[Pots]

People are ignoring the fact that the Cowboys got flagged for a less disrespectful celebration in the same game. If you flag that, then you should flag this, period. Different rule that was broken, sure (2 people involved... sorta vs Taunting) but both should be enforced. Disrespecting a team's logo is a big deal to most of the team's fans/players.

 

[gebz306]

Remove the Star in the endzone then. Its not like he ran out to the 50yd line like TO

 

[gebz306]

TO impersonation on the Dallas star

I don't think this was even noticed in the game itself. Should this have been a penalty? Bad sportsmanship? Keep in mind, I know most of us don't agree with how hard the NFL cracks down on some of these celebrations, but I'm asking whether or not it should be flagged in trying to be consistent with other calls by officials in the past.

I don't think it should be penalized, but the league is VERY inconsistent on this. Supposedly they have made it known that Jared Allen's customary celebration where he kneels is illegal. It's all stupid. No one watches the games for the referees--we watch because stars make big plays. But guys like Ocho, TO, Moss and a few others get called for celebrations just because the league likes to go after them. It's not consistent, which is why it shouldn't be on the books. It's fundamentally a personal, subjective judgement in terms of whether it is taunting or not.

As soon as I saw Witten find the lineman and hand the ball to him, I immediately thought to myself, that is against the rules. Glad to see it enforced.

 

[bushdocda]

I approve all Cowboy mocking.

 

[pantagrapher]

People are ignoring the fact that the Cowboys got flagged for a less disrespectful celebration in the same game. If you flag that, then you should flag this, period. Different rule that was broken, sure (2 people involved... sorta vs Taunting) but both should be enforced. Disrespecting a team's logo is a big deal to most of the team's fans/players.

Maybe fans should be less sensitive about a logo painted on a football field.

 

[Tybeeman]

I'm not a fan of players doing little dances, shuffles or the like. Spike the ball and move on.

 

[Statorama]

People are ignoring the fact that the Cowboys got flagged for a less disrespectful celebration in the same game. If you flag that, then you should flag this, period. Different rule that was broken, sure (2 people involved... sorta vs Taunting) but both should be enforced. Disrespecting a team's logo is a big deal to most of the team's fans/players.

It was the inconsistency that bothered me.

 

[Statorama]

....much like the inconsistency the league shows toward the "Lambeau Leap" celebration. How is that not a "pre-planned" celebration? Should be 15 yards everytime.

 

[Max Power]

People are ignoring the fact that the Cowboys got flagged for a less disrespectful celebration in the same game. If you flag that, then you should flag this, period. Different rule that was broken, sure (2 people involved... sorta vs Taunting) but both should be enforced. Disrespecting a team's logo is a big deal to most of the team's fans/players.

It was the inconsistency that bothered me.

Why? One is right there in black and white in the rule book, the other is a judgement call.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

voted yes as it is technically a violation of the rules (preplanned celebration w/ 'props')

voted no as the celebration rule is dumb and what he did while tongue in cheek mocking of one of the games biggest prima donnas, whose skin should certainly be thick enough for that!

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

People are ignoring the fact that the Cowboys got flagged for a less disrespectful celebration in the same game. If you flag that, then you should flag this, period. Different rule that was broken, sure (2 people involved... sorta vs Taunting) but both should be enforced. Disrespecting a team's logo is a big deal to most of the team's fans/players.

It was the inconsistency that bothered me.

Oh I don't think it's inconsistent. I just don't think the refs saw this quick celebration for what it was (didn't think of TO/the star etc) I don't think I would have thought of it either (ie i wouldnt have flagged it at the time0 but after the fact knowing what it was makes it a much easier call. I bet the efsr didn't even get it.

 

[FFdork]

There's no inconsistency people. The group celebration thing is an automatic penalty. Period. It's a dumb rule in a team sport, but it's automatic.

I don't think the CJ celebration should be flagged. If you want to say it's poor sportsmanship, that's fine. Personally I get more irritated with the Michael Jackson dance routine because some guy made a sack when his team is losing 28-3, but that's just me.

Cowboy fans just have their panties in a bunch because their own players didn't know a rule, it cost them dearly, and then subsequently Chris Johnson did a nod to/mock of the infamous T.O. celebration.

 

[rzrback77]

No, it wasn't a big deal.

What was kind of a big deal is that he actually thought of it in that scenario. I mean, game on the line, your team is trying their hardest to get you into the endzone, you get in.......and you have time to think to yourself "ok, I'm in the endzone baby, right where I want to be. Now I need to put on a show, let's go get some on that star over there".

Call me crazy, but if it were me I would have been jumping up and down and celebrating with my teammates. Some kind of pre-planned celebration, even if I had thought of it prior to the game, would have been the furthest thing from my mind.

EDIT: We also saw this with Vernon Davis this week, who after a big catch on the last drive could be seen posing for the crowd while the rest of the 9ers were trying to get on the line to spike the ball.

I really wish that this would have been discussed by the announcers. They had been long and hard on the Coach and Alex Smith and here is the 49er Captain taking valuable time to self promote while his teammates are all hustling to the line as the clock is winding down. I think that there is far too much "look at me" going on, but in such a critical point in the game and with the clock ticking down, this is totally against all that is teamwork.

 

[GOB]

Yes and no.

The Colombo/Witten celebration should never have been flagged. It is kind of embarrassing that it was, but it was called. Because it was called, they should have flagged Chris Johnson for doing his celebration. I mean anybody who saw it clearly knew what he was doing, and it was clearly premeditated.

It is a joke that the Witten celebration was flagged so I believe the officials were not at all consistent in this game.

 

[Mustang Man]

Voted no on both, the NFL and the celebration rules are one of the most stupid rules in sports.

 

[Mustang Man]

People actually care about this?

When it involves the Cowboys the same old posters always come out, nothing to see here. Johnson did nothing wrong

 

[Max Power]

voted yes as it is technically a violation of the rules (preplanned celebration w/ 'props')voted no as the celebration rule is dumb and what he did while tongue in cheek mocking of one of the games biggest prima donnas, whose skin should certainly be thick enough for that!

What was the prop?

 

[Statorama]

People are ignoring the fact that the Cowboys got flagged for a less disrespectful celebration in the same game. If you flag that, then you should flag this, period. Different rule that was broken, sure (2 people involved... sorta vs Taunting) but both should be enforced. Disrespecting a team's logo is a big deal to most of the team's fans/players.

It was the inconsistency that bothered me.

Why? One is right there in black and white in the rule book, the other is a judgement call.

They're all judgement calls, chief.

 

[butcher boy]

I support this. In fact, if it were me I would've squatted down and taken a #### on the star. How's that for a TD celebration.

The team that vainly and arrogantly calls itself "America's Team" deserves to be mocked. Not my flippin' team.

 

[Max Power]

People are ignoring the fact that the Cowboys got flagged for a less disrespectful celebration in the same game. If you flag that, then you should flag this, period. Different rule that was broken, sure (2 people involved... sorta vs Taunting) but both should be enforced. Disrespecting a team's logo is a big deal to most of the team's fans/players.

It was the inconsistency that bothered me.

Why? One is right there in black and white in the rule book, the other is a judgement call.

They're all judgement calls, chief.

We are talking about handing the ball off after a TD for someone else to spike it right?

 

[FFdork]

People are ignoring the fact that the Cowboys got flagged for a less disrespectful celebration in the same game. If you flag that, then you should flag this, period. Different rule that was broken, sure (2 people involved... sorta vs Taunting) but both should be enforced. Disrespecting a team's logo is a big deal to most of the team's fans/players.

It was the inconsistency that bothered me.

Why? One is right there in black and white in the rule book, the other is a judgement call.

They're all judgement calls, chief.

Not really. One is a pretty simple rule: no group celebrations. The second is always a judgment call. I'm not saying the refs haven't ever messed up and not called a group celebration, but they're all supposed to be called (again, even though the rule is dumb).

 

[Sgt_Russia]

Disappointed that Johnson didn't have the juevos to actually run to midfield and dance there.

We all know that makes for good television

 

[Phurfur]

People are ignoring the fact that the Cowboys got flagged for a less disrespectful celebration in the same game. If you flag that, then you should flag this, period. Different rule that was broken, sure (2 people involved... sorta vs Taunting) but both should be enforced. Disrespecting a team's logo is a big deal to most of the team's fans/players.

Disrespectful! What is wrong with you?

If you don't want someone standing on your "picture of a star", don't put it on a football field. "Disrespectful" that is one of the dumbest things I've heard lately. Who would respect an under achieving team like the Cowboys anyway?

 

[Phurfur]

People are ignoring the fact that the Cowboys got flagged for a less disrespectful celebration in the same game. If you flag that, then you should flag this, period. Different rule that was broken, sure (2 people involved... sorta vs Taunting) but both should be enforced. Disrespecting a team's logo is a big deal to most of the team's fans/players.

It was the inconsistency that bothered me.

Why? One is right there in black and white in the rule book, the other is a judgement call.

They're all judgement calls, chief.

We are talking about handing the ball off after a TD for someone else to spike it right?

We are talking about grown men right?

 

[Phurfur]

No, it wasn't a big deal.

What was kind of a big deal is that he actually thought of it in that scenario. I mean, game on the line, your team is trying their hardest to get you into the endzone, you get in.......and you have time to think to yourself "ok, I'm in the endzone baby, right where I want to be. Now I need to put on a show, let's go get some on that star over there".

Call me crazy, but if it were me I would have been jumping up and down and celebrating with my teammates. Some kind of pre-planned celebration, even if I had thought of it prior to the game, would have been the furthest thing from my mind.

EDIT: We also saw this with Vernon Davis this week, who after a big catch on the last drive could be seen posing for the crowd while the rest of the 9ers were trying to get on the line to spike the ball.

I really wish that this would have been discussed by the announcers. They had been long and hard on the Coach and Alex Smith and here is the 49er Captain taking valuable time to self promote while his teammates are all hustling to the line as the clock is winding down. I think that there is far too much "look at me" going on, but in such a critical point in the game and with the clock ticking down, this is totally against all that is teamwork.

Well, they are 0-5.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

voted yes as it is technically a violation of the rules (preplanned celebration w/ 'props')voted no as the celebration rule is dumb and what he did while tongue in cheek mocking of one of the games biggest prima donnas, whose skin should certainly be thick enough for that!

What was the prop?

the star on the helmet in the endzone.

 

[duaneok66]

No, it wasn't a big deal.

What was kind of a big deal is that he actually thought of it in that scenario. I mean, game on the line, your team is trying their hardest to get you into the endzone, you get in.......and you have time to think to yourself "ok, I'm in the endzone baby, right where I want to be. Now I need to put on a show, let's go get some on that star over there".

Call me crazy, but if it were me I would have been jumping up and down and celebrating with my teammates. Some kind of pre-planned celebration, even if I had thought of it prior to the game, would have been the furthest thing from my mind.

EDIT: We also saw this with Vernon Davis this week, who after a big catch on the last drive could be seen posing for the crowd while the rest of the 9ers were trying to get on the line to spike the ball.

I really wish that this would have been discussed by the announcers. They had been long and hard on the Coach and Alex Smith and here is the 49er Captain taking valuable time to self promote while his teammates are all hustling to the line as the clock is winding down. I think that there is far too much "look at me" going on, but in such a critical point in the game and with the clock ticking down, this is totally against all that is teamwork.

Well, they are 0-5.

excellent post . . .

that is one of the reasons WHY they are 0-5 . . .

when Vernon was doing his little dance, I was like "doesnt he know time is wasting???"

 

[Max Power]

voted yes as it is technically a violation of the rules (preplanned celebration w/ 'props')voted no as the celebration rule is dumb and what he did while tongue in cheek mocking of one of the games biggest prima donnas, whose skin should certainly be thick enough for that!

What was the prop?

the star on the helmet in the endzone.

Im pretty sure thats not a prop. Just like how dunking a ball on the goalpost isn't using a prop. Its colored grass...

 

[pantagrapher]

voted yes as it is technically a violation of the rules (preplanned celebration w/ 'props')voted no as the celebration rule is dumb and what he did while tongue in cheek mocking of one of the games biggest prima donnas, whose skin should certainly be thick enough for that!

What was the prop?

the star on the helmet in the endzone.

Im pretty sure thats not a prop. Just like how dunking a ball on the goalpost isn't using a prop. Its colored grass...

Maybe the Cowboys can paint a huge star in their end zone to prevent other teams from celebrating touchdowns.

 

[Tau837]

Come on. He was in the endzone, it was all in good fun. NO WAY should that have been flagged. I dont even see how the NFL could even justify a flag or fine in this case.