Church Hires Sex-Offender Pastor, Guess What Happens (1 Viewer)

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Once God forgives him for a 2nd time, I have a feeling they won't be hiring him again.

They're in no position to treat him otherwise.

If only God hadn't personally shown up and said he forgave the guy. What the heck was God thinking...big guy really screwed the pooch on this one.

It is all part of god's plan. We can't understand his thinking.

God's plan allows for suffering, but doesn't cause it.

I thnk I'd be more careful in that wording. I don't think God's plan for us includes suffering in any way. But he has given us free will and free will means that bad choices with negative consequences is a reality. Sometimes it only leads to our suffering. But often it leads to suffering for others as well.

Let's throw prayer under the bus, too, while we're at it, remembering all the Jews in the Holocaust who where undoubtedly praying for salvation on the way to their death. Among countless other atrocities whose victims' prayers were ignored.

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[Zow]

In what possible world is raping kids in any way part of a good plan. Or for that matter the rapes and genocide carried out in the Bible at his command and for his glory. If that's his idea of a plan I am glad I won't be spending eternity with the #######.

1. There are ZERO rapes carried out in the Bible at God's command.

2. God's plan is for us to be redeemed in the end. What happens while we get there is up to the collective us. He allowed for us to rule the earth, effect each other and within that allows us to rape, kill and torture one another. Not because he wanted it that way, but we have constantly preferred it that way apparently.

Good gravy

 

[Al O'Pecia]

Enough with this fighting about God already. We must be strong enough to not only forgive, but also to turn away from the fight. As my priest once said to me during a heated incident, "Spread the other cheek."

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

In what possible world is raping kids in any way part of a good plan. Or for that matter the rapes and genocide carried out in the Bible at his command and for his glory. If that's his idea of a plan I am glad I won't be spending eternity with the #######.

1. There are ZERO rapes carried out in the Bible at God's command.

2. God's plan is for us to be redeemed in the end. What happens while we get there is up to the collective us. He allowed for us to rule the earth, effect each other and within that allows us to rape, kill and torture one another. Not because he wanted it that way, but we have constantly preferred it that way apparently.

Good gravy

MOAR

 

[Dan Gladden's Mustache]

In what possible world is raping kids in any way part of a good plan. Or for that matter the rapes and genocide carried out in the Bible at his command and for his glory. If that's his idea of a plan I am glad I won't be spending eternity with the #######.

1. There are ZERO rapes carried out in the Bible at God's command.

Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight.' (2 Samuel 12:11)When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her (Deuteronomy 21:10)

A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls. I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. (Zechariah 14:1-2)

#1 and #3 are prophecy....explaining what will happen, not commanding followers to do it. In fact in both of those instances the people committing the rapes were not followers God.#2 is something that wouldn't quite be fully understood in our modern thinking. But you can suffice it to say that taking a woman as your wife and then sleeping with her is not the same thing as raping her.

ETA. I actually think that number one is not actually referring to rape but rather adultery. Such as consensual sex the wife is doing with the person's enemy.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires constant struggle.

Yeah, you think people could actually read a passage and understand its meaning for themselves instead of just do a Google search for Bible raping and cut-and-paste. Anybody with critical reading skills can easily see how the Bible never condones rape. But when people have an ax to grind anything will do.

So regarding #1...how much reading comprehension do I need to see that God is threatening to have someone's wife raped?

 

[cstu]

In what possible world is raping kids in any way part of a good plan. Or for that matter the rapes and genocide carried out in the Bible at his command and for his glory. If that's his idea of a plan I am glad I won't be spending eternity with the #######.

1. There are ZERO rapes carried out in the Bible at God's command.

2. God's plan is for us to be redeemed in the end. What happens while we get there is up to the collective us. He allowed for us to rule the earth, effect each other and within that allows us to rape, kill and torture one another. Not because he wanted it that way, but we have constantly preferred it that way apparently.

Good gravy

 

[FreeBaGeL]

My Link

 

[Jayrod]

In what possible world is raping kids in any way part of a good plan. Or for that matter the rapes and genocide carried out in the Bible at his command and for his glory. If that's his idea of a plan I am glad I won't be spending eternity with the #######.

1. There are ZERO rapes carried out in the Bible at God's command.

Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight.' (2 Samuel 12:11)When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her (Deuteronomy 21:10)

A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls. I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. (Zechariah 14:1-2)

#1 and #3 are prophecy....explaining what will happen, not commanding followers to do it. In fact in both of those instances the people committing the rapes were not followers God.#2 is something that wouldn't quite be fully understood in our modern thinking. But you can suffice it to say that taking a woman as your wife and then sleeping with her is not the same thing as raping her.

ETA. I actually think that number one is not actually referring to rape but rather adultery. Such as consensual sex the wife is doing with the person's enemy.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires constant struggle.

Yeah, you think people could actually read a passage and understand its meaning for themselves instead of just do a Google search for Bible raping and cut-and-paste. Anybody with critical reading skills can easily see how the Bible never condones rape. But when people have an ax to grind anything will do.

So regarding #1...how much reading comprehension do I need to see that God is threatening to have someone's wife raped?

"And I will give them to your neighbor."This doesn't mean God physically picks them up and hands the wives off, it means they will leave and become the other men's wives.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

In what possible world is raping kids in any way part of a good plan. Or for that matter the rapes and genocide carried out in the Bible at his command and for his glory. If that's his idea of a plan I am glad I won't be spending eternity with the #######.

1. There are ZERO rapes carried out in the Bible at God's command.

Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight.' (2 Samuel 12:11)When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her (Deuteronomy 21:10)

A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls. I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. (Zechariah 14:1-2)

#1 and #3 are prophecy....explaining what will happen, not commanding followers to do it. In fact in both of those instances the people committing the rapes were not followers God.#2 is something that wouldn't quite be fully understood in our modern thinking. But you can suffice it to say that taking a woman as your wife and then sleeping with her is not the same thing as raping her.

ETA. I actually think that number one is not actually referring to rape but rather adultery. Such as consensual sex the wife is doing with the person's enemy.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires constant struggle.

Yeah, you think people could actually read a passage and understand its meaning for themselves instead of just do a Google search for Bible raping and cut-and-paste. Anybody with critical reading skills can easily see how the Bible never condones rape. But when people have an ax to grind anything will do.

So regarding #1...how much reading comprehension do I need to see that God is threatening to have someone's wife raped?

"And I will give them to your neighbor."This doesn't mean God physically picks them up and hands the wives off, it means they will leave and become the other men's wives.

And then the men will rail them in public? Did I read that right?

 

[Todd Andrews]

In what possible world is raping kids in any way part of a good plan. Or for that matter the rapes and genocide carried out in the Bible at his command and for his glory. If that's his idea of a plan I am glad I won't be spending eternity with the #######.

1. There are ZERO rapes carried out in the Bible at God's command.

Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight.' (2 Samuel 12:11)When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her (Deuteronomy 21:10)

A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls. I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. (Zechariah 14:1-2)

#1 and #3 are prophecy....explaining what will happen, not commanding followers to do it. In fact in both of those instances the people committing the rapes were not followers God.#2 is something that wouldn't quite be fully understood in our modern thinking. But you can suffice it to say that taking a woman as your wife and then sleeping with her is not the same thing as raping her.

ETA. I actually think that number one is not actually referring to rape but rather adultery. Such as consensual sex the wife is doing with the person's enemy.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires constant struggle.

Yeah, you think people could actually read a passage and understand its meaning for themselves instead of just do a Google search for Bible raping and cut-and-paste. Anybody with critical reading skills can easily see how the Bible never condones rape. But when people have an ax to grind anything will do.

So regarding #1...how much reading comprehension do I need to see that God is threatening to have someone's wife raped?

"And I will give them to your neighbor."This doesn't mean God physically picks them up and hands the wives off, it means they will leave and become the other men's wives.

And then the men will rail them in public? Did I read that right?

You did. God used to be naughty.

 

[Christo]

In what possible world is raping kids in any way part of a good plan. Or for that matter the rapes and genocide carried out in the Bible at his command and for his glory. If that's his idea of a plan I am glad I won't be spending eternity with the #######.

1. There are ZERO rapes carried out in the Bible at God's command.

Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight.' (2 Samuel 12:11)When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her (Deuteronomy 21:10)

A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls. I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. (Zechariah 14:1-2)

#1 and #3 are prophecy....explaining what will happen, not commanding followers to do it. In fact in both of those instances the people committing the rapes were not followers God.#2 is something that wouldn't quite be fully understood in our modern thinking. But you can suffice it to say that taking a woman as your wife and then sleeping with her is not the same thing as raping her.

ETA. I actually think that number one is not actually referring to rape but rather adultery. Such as consensual sex the wife is doing with the person's enemy.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires constant struggle.

Yeah, you think people could actually read a passage and understand its meaning for themselves instead of just do a Google search for Bible raping and cut-and-paste. Anybody with critical reading skills can easily see how the Bible never condones rape. But when people have an ax to grind anything will do.

So regarding #1...how much reading comprehension do I need to see that God is threatening to have someone's wife raped?

"And I will give them to your neighbor."This doesn't mean God physically picks them up and hands the wives off, it means they will leave and become the other men's wives.

Sure, if you ignore the "take" and "give" parts. And btw, it says nothing about them marrying the neighbor. Just sweet, sweet adultery in the sunlight.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

To be fair, forgiving a guy so he can go rape another kid still ranks pretty low on a list of god's greatest atrocities. This is a dude that killed a bunch of kids because he thought their country's leader was mean, afterall.

 

[ScottNorwood]

My understanding of Christian forgiveness is that you guys (Christians) forgive everyone their sins if they repent. It doesn't mean you need to trust them or give them a position of responsibility. You can forgive a mass murderer who repents, but still want him jailed for life or executed. You don't need to set a killer free to prove your forgiveness.

Is that right?

Tim - Christians are crazy. Don't waste time trying to understand them. Just be content in knowing that us Jews are better than them.

 

[General Malaise]

Enough with this fighting about God already. We must be strong enough to not only forgive, but also to turn away from the fight. As my priest once said to me during a heated incident, "Spread the other cheek."

Jesus....

 

[flapgreen]

Well ####. I live in Gallatin.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Why does it matter if God "commanded" the rapes or not? Isn't it bad enough that the Bible endorses rape again and again?

Tacit acceptance is pretty bad too ya know.

Or is the Bible not the Word Of God?

 

[flapgreen]

Huh

 

[timschochet]

My understanding of Christian forgiveness is that you guys (Christians) forgive everyone their sins if they repent. It doesn't mean you need to trust them or give them a position of responsibility. You can forgive a mass murderer who repents, but still want him jailed for life or executed. You don't need to set a killer free to prove your forgiveness.

Is that right?

Tim - Christians are crazy. Don't waste time trying to understand them. Just be content in knowing that us Jews are better than them.

Umm, you know all those rapey quotes that Jayrod's been trying to defend? They're all from the JEW section of the Bible...

 

[Jayrok]

"And I will give them to your neighbor."This doesn't mean God physically picks them up and hands the wives off, it means they will leave and become the other men's wives.

That isn't the context of the events in 2 Samuel. Nathan is chastising King David for sleeping with Uriah's wife while Uriah was away fighting a war for David.. and for eventually setting Uriah up to die in battle so that he can marry his wife, who he had been sleeping with.

God said that he was going to take David's wives and give them to one of his friends (someone close to David, not a neighbor outside the city) and this friend will have sex with his wives in broad daylight. Verse 12 says "you did this in secret, but I will do this in broad daylight" or in public to add to the humiliation and expose King David for his acts of adultery.

Uriah trusted David, his commander and king. David betrayed him by having an affair with his wife in secret. God is angry and threatens to do the same to David (have his wives to have sex with someone David trusts, but not in secret.. in public to bring to light David's sins). The wives in question here are simply property to be given and taken to make a point.

Is it rape? maybe, maybe not. Do the wives have a say in the matter? Would it matter if they didn't consent to this punishment of David at God's hand?

 

[Christo]

My understanding of Christian forgiveness is that you guys (Christians) forgive everyone their sins if they repent. It doesn't mean you need to trust them or give them a position of responsibility. You can forgive a mass murderer who repents, but still want him jailed for life or executed. You don't need to set a killer free to prove your forgiveness.

Is that right?

Tim - Christians are crazy. Don't waste time trying to understand them. Just be content in knowing that us Jews are better than them.

Umm, you know all those rapey quotes that Jayrod's been trying to defend? They're all from the JEW section of the Bible...

Same God, no?

 

[timschochet]

My understanding of Christian forgiveness is that you guys (Christians) forgive everyone their sins if they repent. It doesn't mean you need to trust them or give them a position of responsibility. You can forgive a mass murderer who repents, but still want him jailed for life or executed. You don't need to set a killer free to prove your forgiveness.

Is that right?

Tim - Christians are crazy. Don't waste time trying to understand them. Just be content in knowing that us Jews are better than them.

Umm, you know all those rapey quotes that Jayrod's been trying to defend? They're all from the JEW section of the Bible...

Same God, no?

Well yeah, except the Jews aren't buying the whole daddy part, they want a paternity test...

 

[Dan Gladden's Mustache]

"And I will give them to your neighbor."

This doesn't mean God physically picks them up and hands the wives off, it means they will leave and become the other men's wives.

That isn't the context of the events in 2 Samuel. Nathan is chastising King David for sleeping with Uriah's wife while Uriah was away fighting a war for David.. and for eventually setting Uriah up to die in battle so that he can marry his wife, who he had been sleeping with.

God said that he was going to take David's wives and give them to one of his friends (someone close to David, not a neighbor outside the city) and this friend will have sex with his wives in broad daylight. Verse 12 says "you did this in secret, but I will do this in broad daylight" or in public to add to the humiliation and expose King David for his acts of adultery.

Uriah trusted David, his commander and king. David betrayed him by having an affair with his wife in secret. God is angry and threatens to do the same to David (have his wives to have sex with someone David trusts, but not in secret.. in public to bring to light David's sins). The wives in question here are simply property to be given and taken to make a point.

Is it rape? maybe, maybe not. Do the wives have a say in the matter? Would it matter if they didn't consent to this punishment of David at God's hand?

Punishing innocents for someone else's sin is cool. Also women as property. Also polygamy.

Neat god.

 

[Jayrod]

"And I will give them to your neighbor."

This doesn't mean God physically picks them up and hands the wives off, it means they will leave and become the other men's wives.

That isn't the context of the events in 2 Samuel. Nathan is chastising King David for sleeping with Uriah's wife while Uriah was away fighting a war for David.. and for eventually setting Uriah up to die in battle so that he can marry his wife, who he had been sleeping with.

God said that he was going to take David's wives and give them to one of his friends (someone close to David, not a neighbor outside the city) and this friend will have sex with his wives in broad daylight. Verse 12 says "you did this in secret, but I will do this in broad daylight" or in public to add to the humiliation and expose King David for his acts of adultery.

Uriah trusted David, his commander and king. David betrayed him by having an affair with his wife in secret. God is angry and threatens to do the same to David (have his wives to have sex with someone David trusts, but not in secret.. in public to bring to light David's sins). The wives in question here are simply property to be given and taken to make a point.

Is it rape? maybe, maybe not. Do the wives have a say in the matter? Would it matter if they didn't consent to this punishment of David at God's hand?

Punishing innocents for someone else's sin is cool. Also women as property. Also polygamy.

Neat god.

Man's culture, not God's. We did that.

God's plan was the Garden of Eden. Everything else is the results of man's sin. The Bible is a record of God's struggle to get man back to his intended state. Heaven is the ultimate destination...a return to the state of the Garden of Eden...only with more of us. There are a lot of things in the Bible that are difficult to understand the full context, mis-translation or whatever. I'm 100% certain god doesn't condone rape.

That's how neat God is, if you really knew you wouldn't mock.

 

[siffoin]

This sort of stuff is to be expected. That's not to say there aren't good/great churches out there. But as an organization - churches provide the easiest and safest access to prey for sexual predators. If caught these predators typically just beg forgiveness. Churches don't want the publicity that would result if legal action were taken especially for abuse against minors so most of the times the predator is just asked to leave and they move on.

I would venture to guess that more churches than not have at least 1 leader actively involved in porn addiction, adultery, or child sexual abuse. It's a real problem that seems to be ignored.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

god loves us

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Satan is the worst!

 

[Zow]

"And I will give them to your neighbor."

This doesn't mean God physically picks them up and hands the wives off, it means they will leave and become the other men's wives.

That isn't the context of the events in 2 Samuel. Nathan is chastising King David for sleeping with Uriah's wife while Uriah was away fighting a war for David.. and for eventually setting Uriah up to die in battle so that he can marry his wife, who he had been sleeping with.

God said that he was going to take David's wives and give them to one of his friends (someone close to David, not a neighbor outside the city) and this friend will have sex with his wives in broad daylight. Verse 12 says "you did this in secret, but I will do this in broad daylight" or in public to add to the humiliation and expose King David for his acts of adultery.

Uriah trusted David, his commander and king. David betrayed him by having an affair with his wife in secret. God is angry and threatens to do the same to David (have his wives to have sex with someone David trusts, but not in secret.. in public to bring to light David's sins). The wives in question here are simply property to be given and taken to make a point.

Is it rape? maybe, maybe not. Do the wives have a say in the matter? Would it matter if they didn't consent to this punishment of David at God's hand?

Punishing innocents for someone else's sin is cool. Also women as property. Also polygamy.

Neat god.

Man's culture, not God's. We did that.

God's plan was the Garden of Eden. Everything else is the results of man's sin. The Bible is a record of God's struggle to get man back to his intended state. Heaven is the ultimate destination...a return to the state of the Garden of Eden...only with more of us. There are a lot of things in the Bible that are difficult to understand the full context, mis-translation or whatever. I'm 100% certain god doesn't condone rape.

That's how neat God is, if you really knew you wouldn't mock.

Pretty ####ty foresight on God's part, given that his first two guests failed pretty quickly.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I'm going to make you in my image, then tempt you with something that I know I couldn't resist so you of course won't be able to either, then punish and torture you for all eternity for it.

Swell guy.

 

[Zow]

This sort of stuff is to be expected. That's not to say there aren't good/great churches out there. But as an organization - churches provide the easiest and safest access to prey for sexual predators. If caught these predators typically just beg forgiveness. Churches don't want the publicity that would result if legal action were taken especially for abuse against minors so most of the times the predator is just asked to leave and they move on.

I would venture to guess that more churches than not have at least 1 leader actively involved in porn addiction, adultery, or child sexual abuse. It's a real problem that seems to be ignored.

Absolutely. And it's one of the few arenas where a single, adult male can request one-on-one access with a small child and not only is not thought strange but it's encouraged.

Hell, I went to Catholic school and was alone with a priest numerous times and never thought anything of it. Thankfully, only ever had one bad experience.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

"And I will give them to your neighbor."

This doesn't mean God physically picks them up and hands the wives off, it means they will leave and become the other men's wives.

That isn't the context of the events in 2 Samuel. Nathan is chastising King David for sleeping with Uriah's wife while Uriah was away fighting a war for David.. and for eventually setting Uriah up to die in battle so that he can marry his wife, who he had been sleeping with.

God said that he was going to take David's wives and give them to one of his friends (someone close to David, not a neighbor outside the city) and this friend will have sex with his wives in broad daylight. Verse 12 says "you did this in secret, but I will do this in broad daylight" or in public to add to the humiliation and expose King David for his acts of adultery.

Uriah trusted David, his commander and king. David betrayed him by having an affair with his wife in secret. God is angry and threatens to do the same to David (have his wives to have sex with someone David trusts, but not in secret.. in public to bring to light David's sins). The wives in question here are simply property to be given and taken to make a point.

Is it rape? maybe, maybe not. Do the wives have a say in the matter? Would it matter if they didn't consent to this punishment of David at God's hand?

Punishing innocents for someone else's sin is cool. Also women as property. Also polygamy.

Neat god.

Man's culture, not God's. We did that.

God's plan was the Garden of Eden. Everything else is the results of man's sin. The Bible is a record of God's struggle to get man back to his intended state. Heaven is the ultimate destination...a return to the state of the Garden of Eden...only with more of us. There are a lot of things in the Bible that are difficult to understand the full context, mis-translation or whatever. I'm 100% certain god doesn't condone rape.

That's how neat God is, if you really knew you wouldn't mock.

Uh..."struggle"? Thought he was omnipotent?

 

[General Malaise]

This sort of stuff is to be expected. That's not to say there aren't good/great churches out there. But as an organization - churches provide the easiest and safest access to prey for sexual predators. If caught these predators typically just beg forgiveness. Churches don't want the publicity that would result if legal action were taken especially for abuse against minors so most of the times the predator is just asked to leave and they move on.

I would venture to guess that more churches than not have at least 1 leader actively involved in porn addiction, adultery, or child sexual abuse. It's a real problem that seems to be ignored.

Absolutely. And it's one of the few arenas where a single, adult male can request one-on-one access with a small child and not only is not thought strange but it's encouraged.

Hell, I went to Catholic school and was alone with a priest numerous times and never thought anything of it. Thankfully, only ever had one bad experience.

Well?

 

[tonydead]

"We're firm believers in the Bible so if God's forgiven you, then we're in no position to treat you otherwise," Bratcher told WBKO.

What did God write them a note or send them an email giving him his blessing? That's the worst part of the whole sitaution and why these kind of things continue to happen even though there are flashing red lights screaming "DANGER!! DANGER!!"...these people are truly just ignorant with no common sense. The real shame of it though is it's not this idiot that ends up getting raped....it's some poor kid that has to pay to consequences of someone else's stupidity and have their life ruined.

" just ignorant with no common sense. "

-fine example of why religion is dangerous.

War* the faithful not knowing what their own book says.

*sorry just got done listening to the Rome show.

 

[Tchula]

This is more about gays being sexual predators than it is religion. Clearly the guy isn't Christian at all.

 

[Ilov80s]

This is more about gays being sexual predators than it is religion. Clearly the guy isn't Christian at all.

I don't think it's about either.

 

[johnnycakes]

In what possible world is raping kids in any way part of a good plan. Or for that matter the rapes and genocide carried out in the Bible at his command and for his glory. If that's his idea of a plan I am glad I won't be spending eternity with the #######.

1. There are ZERO rapes carried out in the Bible at God's command.

Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight.' (2 Samuel 12:11)When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her (Deuteronomy 21:10)

A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls. I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. (Zechariah 14:1-2)

#1 and #3 are prophecy....explaining what will happen, not commanding followers to do it. In fact in both of those instances the people committing the rapes were not followers God.#2 is something that wouldn't quite be fully understood in our modern thinking. But you can suffice it to say that taking a woman as your wife and then sleeping with her is not the same thing as raping her.

ETA. I actually think that number one is not actually referring to rape but rather adultery. Such as consensual sex the wife is doing with the person's enemy.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires constant struggle.

Yeah, you think people could actually read a passage and understand its meaning for themselves instead of just do a Google search for Bible raping and cut-and-paste. Anybody with critical reading skills can easily see how the Bible never condones rape. But when people have an ax to grind anything will do.

So regarding #1...how much reading comprehension do I need to see that God is threatening to have someone's wife raped?

"And I will give them to your neighbor."This doesn't mean God physically picks them up and hands the wives off, it means they will leave and become the other men's wives.

And then the men will rail them in public? Did I read that right?

HFS

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

This is more about gays being sexual predators than it is religion. Clearly the guy isn't Christian at all.

It's about a group of adults making a really stupid and dangerous decision due to their religious beliefs.

 

[psychobillies]

It's about a group of people who knowingly hook child rapists up with children.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Friends, we gather in this place to mourn the victims of yesterday's tragedy: nine good people who were run over in the street by an elderly woman driver.

It is sometimes hard, in times like these, to understand God's way. Why would he allow nine innocent people to be run down in the prime of their lives by a senior citizen who, perhaps, shouldn't be driving? It is then that we must understand, God's sense of humor is very different from our own. He does not laugh at the simple "man walks into a bar" joke. No, God needs complex irony and subtle farcical twists that seem macabre to you and me. All that we can hope for is that God got his good laugh and a tragedy such as this will never happen again.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Friends, we gather in this place to mourn the victims of yesterday's tragedy: nine good people who were run over in the street by an elderly woman driver.

It is sometimes hard, in times like these, to understand God's way. Why would he allow nine innocent people to be run down in the prime of their lives by a senior citizen who, perhaps, shouldn't be driving? It is then that we must understand, God's sense of humor is very different from our own. He does not laugh at the simple "man walks into a bar" joke. No, God needs complex irony and subtle farcical twists that seem macabre to you and me. All that we can hope for is that God got his good laugh and a tragedy such as this will never happen again.

Word

 

[MC Gas Money]

Man. I was sure this was going to be the time that a sex offender totally turned it around and became awesome.

Roman Polansky did some good work post-rape