CJ spiller value (1 Viewer)

[ufshowboat]

Spiller can put up RB1 numbers on 15 touches. I can't imagine him getting fewer than that even when F-Jax comes back.

BINGO.So far in the two games in which CJ Spiller has been the number 1 RB in fantasy football:14 of the team's 26 rushes against the Jets.15 of the team's 36 rushes against the Cheifs.He's played in two games in which they didn't use him for at least a quarter and gave other guys carries.So the "Jackson will be back soon and kill his value" posts are pretty funny.

 

[smapdi]

 

[whitem0nkey]

Spiller can put up RB1 numbers on 15 touches. I can't imagine him getting fewer than that even when F-Jax comes back.

BINGO.So far in the two games in which CJ Spiller has been the number 1 RB in fantasy football:14 of the team's 26 rushes against the Jets.15 of the team's 36 rushes against the Cheifs.He's played in two games in which they didn't use him for at least a quarter and gave other guys carries.So the "Jackson will be back soon and kill his value" posts are pretty funny.

thanks for this post

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Spiller can put up RB1 numbers on 15 touches. I can't imagine him getting fewer than that even when F-Jax comes back.

BINGO.So far in the two games in which CJ Spiller has been the number 1 RB in fantasy football:14 of the team's 26 rushes against the Jets.15 of the team's 36 rushes against the Cheifs.He's played in two games in which they didn't use him for at least a quarter and gave other guys carries.So the "Jackson will be back soon and kill his value" posts are pretty funny.

thanks for this post

yeha I doubt a healthy Freddy impacts his touches, the guy is dynomite with the ball. Not giving him his 15 touches a game would be a poor job by the coaching staff

 

[GroveDiesel]

But can Spiller handle 25 or 30 touches a game if that's what's required?

“Can he? Yes he can. Will we ask him to? Probably not. I would like to not go out there and just run him 25 times a game, but if that is what it takes to win the game, that is what we will do,” coach Chan Gailey said. “You would rather not. When we get Fred (Jackson) back, and (Tashard) Choice did a great job, he really did do a good job [sunday]. But when you get Fred back, you feel a lot more comfortable with splitting those carries and keeping both of them fresh.”

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

But can Spiller handle 25 or 30 touches a game if that's what's required?

“Can he? Yes he can. Will we ask him to? Probably not. I would like to not go out there and just run him 25 times a game, but if that is what it takes to win the game, that is what we will do,” coach Chan Gailey said. “You would rather not. When we get Fred (Jackson) back, and (Tashard) Choice did a great job, he really did do a good job [sunday]. But when you get Fred back, you feel a lot more comfortable with splitting those carries and keeping both of them fresh.”

it's the right move for the team.Keep spiller at 15-18 touches, Im happy w that!

 

[Road Warriors]

But can Spiller handle 25 or 30 touches a game if that's what's required?

“Can he? Yes he can. Will we ask him to? Probably not. I would like to not go out there and just run him 25 times a game, but if that is what it takes to win the game, that is what we will do,” coach Chan Gailey said. “You would rather not. When we get Fred (Jackson) back, and (Tashard) Choice did a great job, he really did do a good job [sunday]. But when you get Fred back, you feel a lot more comfortable with splitting those carries and keeping both of them fresh.”

it's the right move for the team.Keep spiller at 15-18 touches, Im happy w that!

Agree with this, but does anyone else see a shift in the coachspeak here? Feels a lot more like Spiller's the guy with Fred getting a few more touches than the current stable of backups.

Or, it could be my Spiller-owning wishful thinking.

 

[leave a whisper]

Spiller was my RB4 in a start 2 no flex league & I'm a little thin at WR.I was just offered Jamaal Charles & Lance Moore for Spiller, think I'm taking it.

Thankfully I never pulled the trigger ....BUT the recent Fjax news has me looking to move Spiller (plus I have good RB depth & can use a WR)....working on a package deal that includes Colston as the centerpiece

 

[jdoggydogg]

I'm going to post this in a couple of Spiller threads, because I think it's interesting.

Since filling in for Fred Jackson in week 10 of 2011, and including two games this year, the only WR or RB with more fantasy points than CJ Spiller is Calvin Johnson.

I cannot provide a link, since I heard Matthew Berry point this out on his podcast this week (9-17-12). As a Spiller dynasty owner, I'm trying to be objective here. I think that there are Spiller owners that just assume he's won the starting job - despite the fact that the Bills' coaching staff loves Jackson. So I know this stat is sure to make this debate even more contentious - but it's still worth knowing.

 

[footballfreek]

I think fantasy owners get too caught up in "is he the starter". I just want Spiller to get 17-20 touches a game and I'll be just fine as a Spiller owner. Really don't care when they come during the game. Gailey would be an absolute fool not to have Spiller on the field often.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I think fantasy owners get too caught up in "is he the starter". I just want Spiller to get 17-20 touches a game and I'll be just fine as a Spiller owner. Really don't care when they come during the game. Gailey would be an absolute fool not to have Spiller on the field often.

This could end up like Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones in 2010.

I think it's very possible both RBs will be startable as strong #2 RBs if both are healthy.

 

[jim k]

I traded Spiller last week and sure would have loved those 30 points but l believe Jackson gets his starting gig back when healthy. I believe that because bills feel Jackson is a more complete football player who can run, block and pick up the blitz. I feel bills think spiller is a one cut speed back who can do one thing well but makes a lot of mistakes if you ask him to do more. This is my opinion based on how the bills have used spiller including this year. I would say jackson 18 carries a game and spiller 10 is how it looks unless spiller impresses with his football acumen.

 

[GoBills02]

I traded Spiller last week and sure would have loved those 30 points but l believe Jackson gets his starting gig back when healthy. I believe that because bills feel Jackson is a more complete football player who can run, block and pick up the blitz. I feel bills think spiller is a one cut speed back who can do one thing well but makes a lot of mistakes if you ask him to do more. This is my opinion based on how the bills have used spiller including this year. I would say jackson 18 carries a game and spiller 10 is how it looks unless spiller impresses with his football acumen.

Maybe, but Spiller will be lined in the slot when Fred is in the backfield, and will see screen passes, dump offs, and the motion hand off play.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

I am actually waffling over pulling the trigger on giving CJ for McFadden.

 

[Ladsud]

I traded Spiller last week and sure would have loved those 30 points but l believe Jackson gets his starting gig back when healthy. I believe that because bills feel Jackson is a more complete football player who can run, block and pick up the blitz. I feel bills think spiller is a one cut speed back who can do one thing well but makes a lot of mistakes if you ask him to do more. This is my opinion based on how the bills have used spiller including this year. I would say jackson 18 carries a game and spiller 10 is how it looks unless spiller impresses with his football acumen.

Maybe, but Spiller will be lined in the slot when Fred is in the backfield, and will see screen passes, dump offs, and the motion hand off play.

Especially with no Nelson, Spiller should be all over the field even if Jackson is starting and in the backfield. I dont think the Charles/Jones comparison works here Both could and should be in the game on 3rd downs, Jackson is a good back catching the ball.

 

[Markus P Dub]

I offered McCoy for Spiller & Harvin dynasty league with points for return. I'm high on Spiller but am I being overly stupid here lol?

 

[LittlePhatty]

I offered McCoy for Spiller & Harvin dynasty league with points for return. I'm high on Spiller but am I being overly stupid here

Harvin is consistently a top 10 WR in return leagues, and Spiller can be a top 10 dynasty guy given Fred Jackson's age. I think a lot of people might tell you it's a bad deal, but I think it's good and I'd probably take Spiller & Harvin if given that choice.

 

[JuniorNB]

When FJax comes back and is 100% healthy, I think we'll see 12-15 touches from both of them. Spiller has played great and Jackson was a top three back in the league last year when healthy. For Buffalo, this is the ultimate definition of 'good problems'. It wouldn't surprise me to see Spiller in the slot and FJax in the backfield quite a bit.

TYpical statline might be something along these lines....FJax 12 carries, 3 receptions. CJ Spiller 7 carries, 6 receptions.

 

[Markus P Dub]

I offered McCoy for Spiller & Harvin dynasty league with points for return. I'm high on Spiller but am I being overly stupid here

Harvin is consistently a top 10 WR in return leagues, and Spiller can be a top 10 dynasty guy given Fred Jackson's age. I think a lot of people might tell you it's a bad deal, but I think it's good and I'd probably take Spiller & Harvin if given that choice.

Well I got rejected lol. Here is his response.I think you may be valuing McCoy a bit much here. Harvin is a legit #1 in this league and while I don't necessarily think Spiller will continue to be the #1 overall RB the whole season, you'd be hard-pressed to convince me that the gap between him and McCoy going forward is equivalent to a #1 WR.

 

[cracKer]

It'll be interesting to see the panic once Spiller comes back to earth

 

[cvnpoka]

It'll be interesting to see the panic once Spiller comes back to earth

well, hes got 4 or 5 more weeks as a top 5 start, then will be a solid rb2 at worst. dont think reasonable ppl will be very disappointed.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

It'll be interesting to see the panic once Spiller comes back to earth

I wont panic at all. He is doing the most with his touches. No one is bad game proof. Even when/if Freddy comes back healthy I think CJ still gets his touches.

 

[LittlePhatty]

It'll be interesting to see the panic once Spiller comes back to earth

Most people will have other starters. It's not like Spiller was a first round pick. Probably more like 7th or 8th round for most people.

 

[BigTex]

^^^What they said, no one is going to panic because no one expected Spiller to blowup like this. We're taking it all in stride.

 

[RUSF18]

It'll be interesting to see the panic once Spiller comes back to earth

You're right, I'm going to be really pissed when my 9th round pick drops to averaging single digit YPC. Bum.

 

[moderated]

I offered McCoy for Spiller & Harvin dynasty league with points for return. I'm high on Spiller but am I being overly stupid here

Harvin is consistently a top 10 WR in return leagues, and Spiller can be a top 10 dynasty guy given Fred Jackson's age. I think a lot of people might tell you it's a bad deal, but I think it's good and I'd probably take Spiller & Harvin if given that choice.

Well I got rejected lol. Here is his response.I think you may be valuing McCoy a bit much here. Harvin is a legit #1 in this league and while I don't necessarily think Spiller will continue to be the #1 overall RB the whole season, you'd be hard-pressed to convince me that the gap between him and McCoy going forward is equivalent to a #1 WR.

i think it was an easy reject for the other guy.Spiller and Harvin are both top 10 dynasty guys at their respective positions. the difference between Spiller and McCoy is very slight and not near big enough to throw in a stud like Harvin.

 

[moderated]

It'll be interesting to see the panic once Spiller comes back to earth

Nobody expects him to keep up his 10 YPC. Every RB has a bad game, Spiller will have some too and i'm sure everyone knows that.

 

[Concept Coop]

i think it was an easy reject for the other guy.Spiller and Harvin are both top 10 dynasty guys at their respective positions. the difference between Spiller and McCoy is very slight and not near big enough to throw in a stud like Harvin.

I have to agree, that I would reject the trade. But, I don't know that I trust Spiller, or the Bills to label the difference between he and McCoy as slight. Personally, McCoy is my #1 dynasty back, right now, and he and Spiller are at least a tier apart.If I was the owner, I would have rejected, but defiantly would have countered and tried to find away to get a solid upgrade from Spiller, to McCoy.

 

[Ernol]

What is largely being ignored in the other CJ Spiller threads is that Spiller looked incredible AGAIN in his limited Week 3 appearance and has had the look of being the best RB in the NFL.

Strictly dynasty speaking, despite the injury and Fred Jackson coming back, my valuation of Spiller is still on the rise following Week 3 (which was top 5 after week 1).

The opportunity in dynasty to profit by trading for Spiller at RB8 value may have already passed in many dynasty leagues. However, with the latest injury and Fred Jackson’s imminent return, the opportunity may still be there to trade for him at RB5 or RB6 value. There is still upside (and built-in profit) at trading for him at that level imo.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Going out on a pretty big limb here to acquire Spiller, we'll see how it goes. Can't believe I'm throwing Calvin out there, but he rejected a similar deal that had Nicks and a 2nd on my end in place of Calvin, and without Hillman and a 2nd on his end.

Offered:

Calvin Johnson

Steven Jackson

Daryl Richardson (I'm keeping Pead, who I hope develops into the real future)

To receive:

CJ Spiller

Demaryius Thomas

Ronnie Hillman

2013 2nd

 

[moderated]

Going out on a pretty big limb here to acquire Spiller, we'll see how it goes. Can't believe I'm throwing Calvin out there, but he rejected a similar deal that had Nicks and a 2nd on my end in place of Calvin, and without Hillman and a 2nd on his end.Offered:Calvin JohnsonSteven JacksonDaryl Richardson (I'm keeping Pead, who I hope develops into the real future)To receive:CJ SpillerDemaryius ThomasRonnie Hillman2013 2nd

As hard as it would be for me to trade Calvin i think this is a good deal for you. Both Spiller and Thomas are elite talents and top 10 at their positions.

 

[JShare87]

I just traded Darren sproles for Spiller in a ppr dynasty league. Let's just say I'm more than happy with the trade.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Going out on a pretty big limb here to acquire Spiller, we'll see how it goes. Can't believe I'm throwing Calvin out there, but he rejected a similar deal that had Nicks and a 2nd on my end in place of Calvin, and without Hillman and a 2nd on his end.Offered:Calvin JohnsonSteven JacksonDaryl Richardson (I'm keeping Pead, who I hope develops into the real future)To receive:CJ SpillerDemaryius ThomasRonnie Hillman2013 2nd

As hard as it would be for me to trade Calvin i think this is a good deal for you. Both Spiller and Thomas are elite talents and top 10 at their positions.

Can't believe this, but he turned it down, even when I took out Hillman.Is it insane that I'm thinking of adding another sweetener in someone like Andre Brown?

 

[jwp]

If you have a guy who really loves Spiller, especially in dynasty, I would think it'd be almost impossible to trade for him right now. I doubt Andre Brown will make a lot of difference in this guys mind.

 

[Air Stich]

Going out on a pretty big limb here to acquire Spiller, we'll see how it goes. Can't believe I'm throwing Calvin out there, but he rejected a similar deal that had Nicks and a 2nd on my end in place of Calvin, and without Hillman and a 2nd on his end.Offered:Calvin JohnsonSteven JacksonDaryl Richardson (I'm keeping Pead, who I hope develops into the real future)To receive:CJ SpillerDemaryius ThomasRonnie Hillman2013 2nd

As hard as it would be for me to trade Calvin i think this is a good deal for you. Both Spiller and Thomas are elite talents and top 10 at their positions.

Can't believe this, but he turned it down, even when I took out Hillman.Is it insane that I'm thinking of adding another sweetener in someone like Andre Brown?

Believe it. You obviously think his players are better. Why wouldn't he?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Going out on a pretty big limb here to acquire Spiller, we'll see how it goes. Can't believe I'm throwing Calvin out there, but he rejected a similar deal that had Nicks and a 2nd on my end in place of Calvin, and without Hillman and a 2nd on his end.Offered:Calvin JohnsonSteven JacksonDaryl Richardson (I'm keeping Pead, who I hope develops into the real future)To receive:CJ SpillerDemaryius ThomasRonnie Hillman2013 2nd

As hard as it would be for me to trade Calvin i think this is a good deal for you. Both Spiller and Thomas are elite talents and top 10 at their positions.

Can't believe this, but he turned it down, even when I took out Hillman.Is it insane that I'm thinking of adding another sweetener in someone like Andre Brown?

Believe it. You obviously think his players are better. Why wouldn't he?

I was hoping the value gap between Calvin and D. Thomas was large enough to make up for it, obviously.

 

[Air Stich]

Going out on a pretty big limb here to acquire Spiller, we'll see how it goes. Can't believe I'm throwing Calvin out there, but he rejected a similar deal that had Nicks and a 2nd on my end in place of Calvin, and without Hillman and a 2nd on his end.Offered:Calvin JohnsonSteven JacksonDaryl Richardson (I'm keeping Pead, who I hope develops into the real future)To receive:CJ SpillerDemaryius ThomasRonnie Hillman2013 2nd

As hard as it would be for me to trade Calvin i think this is a good deal for you. Both Spiller and Thomas are elite talents and top 10 at their positions.

Can't believe this, but he turned it down, even when I took out Hillman.Is it insane that I'm thinking of adding another sweetener in someone like Andre Brown?

Believe it. You obviously think his players are better. Why wouldn't he?

I was hoping the value gap between Calvin and D. Thomas was large enough to make up for it, obviously.

I'm not saying it isn't. I was replying to a comment that I've heard a thousand times in my fantasy career: Can you believe he didn't want to take that trade? You wouldn't make the offer if you didn't think you were getting the best of it.

 

[SameSongNDance]

My friend recently trade AP for Spiller, Turner and a 3rd round pick in a keeper league. Spiller can be kept in the 6th round next year. I thought this was a good trade for both parties, aside from the fact that the 3rd rounder was a bit much.

 

[Sea Duck]

10 team, start 2 QB league. Was just offered:

Spiller (would start over Alfred Morris)

Celek (would start over Owen Daniels)

Kolb (would not start for me)

for

A. Rodgers (my #3 QB behind Dalton and Fitzpatrick)

M. Turner (not starting for me)

S. Holmes (not starting for me)

On paper, this favors me. But I have to believe that Rodgers will return to form soon.....right?

 

[cvnpoka]

My friend recently trade AP for Spiller, Turner and a 3rd round pick in a keeper league. Spiller can be kept in the 6th round next year. I thought this was a good trade for both parties, aside from the fact that the 3rd rounder was a bit much.

i wouldnt give up spiller for ap straight up as a 6th round keeper.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Just traded for Spiller in another league than the one above.

This league is 2QB, so it was very, very tough to pull the trigger, but I did.

Gave:

Stafford

Rod Streater

Got:

C.J. Spiller

Josh Freeman.

My starting lineup is now:

RG3, Freeman

DMC, Charles, Spiller

Nicks, Fitz, Andre

Gresham

 

[lostinffb]

Well seems like today, (or at least next week if Spiller is still a little banged up) is the day we all get to find out what spillers value really is. Tough matchup and will split carries.

Anyone starting Spiller today? I am on the fence.

 

[pghrob]

Well seems like today, (or at least next week if Spiller is still a little banged up) is the day we all get to find out what spillers value really is. Tough matchup and will split carries.Anyone starting Spiller today? I am on the fence.

I am starting him at flex in ppr. He is good candidate for check down dump passes against aggressive 49ers front four. If Bills fall behind, I can see him on field more than Fred Jackson.

 

[sandlotshrink]

Starting Ridley and Sproles over him this week.

 

[Nucker101]

Tough matchup with potential for a blowout, might still not be at 100% and with F-Jax back in the mix, I'm starting Mathews and McGahee over him(and Colston at flex) in a 0.5 PPR.

I think Spiller is more of a weekly flex play with the upside to explode any week now with Jackson back.

 

[lostinffb]

I think Spiller is more of a weekly flex play with the upside to explode any week now with Jackson back.

Agreed, have to pick 2 of Torrey Smith, Antonio Brown, Spiller. I am in PPR and Torrey is not really a quantity guy. Thinking I am liking Spiller and Brown this week, might be crazy.

 

[FantasyDhaliLlama]

I like both spiller and f-jax going forward (after this week). I honestly think they are going to put up 2009 Stewart, Williams numbers the rest of the way when they both went over 1000 yards rushing. As a f-jax owner I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a low spiller Snap count to hopefully scare the spiller owner enough so I can buy,buy, buy.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

I'm playing him over Fred Jacskon, Battle and Brown. He's a home run hitter. One swing pass to the house and ill be happy.

 

[Proximo]

He's at flex for me; half my team is on bye.

 

[SCT]

torn between him, battle, and cobb at flex. Non ppr