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I think I'm going to go try and learn how to be good at this game in a random clan somewhere. I'm not improving (actually getting worse) and feel bad experimenting and sucking in a FBG clan, particularly when I'm the #2 ranked war player. After the next Quattro war I'm going to find a random clan and screw them over for awhile.
Come back to fbg1

I routinely disappoint as the 1 seed. You'll be out of the Top 10 in war rank and have a front row seat to all kinds of new attack strategies . . . Quatrolavaloonion, Pentagolems, Angry V's, Walking Dead, etc.

Need to replace 2-3 in the clan anyway.

 
I can still swing for doubles and get two stars on most TH9's with a ground attack. The problem is that's not really good enough anymore, so I've been trying to swing the for the fences, and often times I'm lucky to get one star, lol. I'm very new to lavaloon. I'm more experienced with Go-XXX, but I don't think I've ever gotten 3 stars from the ground on a decent TH9.

I don't want to leave Quattro in a lurch, but I also feel like if you take donations out of the equation, I'm probably the last valuable player in the clan. I have maxxed defense, still get 2-3 starred despite changing my layout a lot, and my offensive upside is 4 stars.

 
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Because it doesn't really have a name yet I'm calling this superfur/valk thing a 310 from here on out.

Since most of the ones I've seen have

10 furs

10 valks

10 hogs and skulls (for 50 total spots)

as the attack core.

developing

 
I can still swing for doubles and get two stars on most TH9's with a ground attack. The problem is that's not really good enough anymore, so I've been trying to swing the for the fences, and often times I'm lucky to get one star, lol. I'm very new to lavaloon. I'm more experienced with Go-XXX, but I don't think I've ever gotten 3 stars from the ground on a decent TH9.

I don't want to leave Quattro in a lurch, but I also feel like if you take donations out of the equation, I'm probably the last valuable player in the clan. I have maxxed defense, still get 2-3 starred despite changing my layout a lot, and my offensive upside is 4 stars.
Take a swing thru fbg1. You'd fall in roughly at base 16-17. Maybe as low as 20. You'd be hitting likely a TH9 with very low walls and mostly th8 towers.

 
I don't think there's a need for that. There's a lot of pressure on you being at the top of the rankings, but you've had some rough matches lately.

IMO, watching those OneHive videos and other YouTube videos of different types of attacks is far better for improving war performance than just trying to figure it out on your own.

And remember, Quattro is Serious Business, but as long as guys are actively trying and communicating, it's all good. Frankly, I normally learn as much from watching guys above me fail than I do watching an easy win.
I wish more clashers thought like this. :thumbup:

 
I don't think there's a need for that. There's a lot of pressure on you being at the top of the rankings, but you've had some rough matches lately.

IMO, watching those OneHive videos and other YouTube videos of different types of attacks is far better for improving war performance than just trying to figure it out on your own.

And remember, Quattro is Serious Business, but as long as guys are actively trying and communicating, it's all good. Frankly, I normally learn as much from watching guys above me fail than I do watching an easy win.
I wish more clashers thought like this. :thumbup:
Other than my mangled grammar, it's true. For instance, I'm a maxed out TH8 and in our Quattro war that just ended I was hit 3 times in the last 30 minutes. All 3 attacks were TH8 dragon attacks, all 3 only got 1 star and all 3 made the same 2 major mistakes. None of them learned at all so they all failed. All of them ended up with dragons circling my base while my AD trashed them.

We did a similar thing against the other clan's #9. 3 or 4 attacks and they all went for 2 stars. Every one of them triple zapped an AD when 2 rages and a heal or 3 rages probably would have 3 starred it.

 
we need one of you fbg1 in Honda full time. I just watched 5 lvl7 Giants in my CC take down a TH7 with 450K of stuff practically by themselves.
:hifive:
You still clashing? Heard you quit.
Not full on quit. Got tired of wars and of what raiding at TH10 turned into. Now I just empty collectors on the TH10 accounts, and do very minimal raiding with PTTS who is end of TH7. Collectors make so much I don't even need to raid to keep TH10 labs busy, and 3 drills enough my AQ has been upgrading pretty much around the clock with a few boosts to use up remaining gems. Just kicked off L20.

Meanwhile I bounce between Quatro and Honda to not get in the way of their wars, and give out troops where I can. I still log in probably 4-5 times a day, just don't raid unless PTTS's collectors aren't keeping up with keeping his builders busy.

 
we need one of you fbg1 in Honda full time. I just watched 5 lvl7 Giants in my CC take down a TH7 with 450K of stuff practically by themselves.
:hifive:
You still clashing? Heard you quit.
Not full on quit. Got tired of wars and of what raiding at TH10 turned into. Now I just empty collectors on the TH10 accounts, and do very minimal raiding with PTTS who is end of TH7. Collectors make so much I don't even need to raid to keep TH10 labs busy, and 3 drills enough my AQ has been upgrading pretty much around the clock with a few boosts to use up remaining gems. Just kicked off L20.

Meanwhile I bounce between Quatro and Honda to not get in the way of their wars, and give out troops where I can. I still log in probably 4-5 times a day, just don't raid unless PTTS's collectors aren't keeping up with keeping his builders busy.
Boog is non-warring with a bunch of donors. Like you, I ride my shield and still collect enough resources to keep my builders working.

 
I think I'm going to go try and learn how to be good at this game in a random clan somewhere. I'm not improving (actually getting worse) and feel bad experimenting and sucking in a FBG clan, particularly when I'm the #2 ranked war player. After the next Quattro war I'm going to find a random clan and screw them over for awhile.
Come back to fbg1

I routinely disappoint as the 1 seed. You'll be out of the Top 10 in war rank and have a front row seat to all kinds of new attack strategies . . . Quatrolavaloonion, Pentagolems, Angry V's, Walking Dead, etc.

Need to replace 2-3 in the clan anyway.
there is where I am at as well. I have th8 and lots of strong forces but can never figure out hoe to correctly attack. I would love to join fbg1 to watch and donate. Send invite to "money"
 
Current FBG1 Strategery version 4.2

First Attack Strategy

· Count the number of TH10 they have. Add that to your base count.

· If this is a TH9 your goal is to 3 star this base or see that it can be 3 starred by someone else.

· There are just three viable attack strategies for TH9

o Mass hogs – Must deal with clan castle and queen.

o Quad Hound – Deal with CC and/or Queen. If unsure, ask.

o PentaHound – Deal with nothing and push all in.

· First attacks on TH9 where your +X is a TH9, should avoid if at all possible.

o GoWIXX style raids of any composition.

----- Some exceptions here especially on bases with weak walls or few compartments. If unsure, ask.

o Loonian without sufficient tanks or a way to deal with CC and/or queen, if unsure, ask.

o Mass Dragons

· If your assigned base is not a TH9.

o You are free to attack any base with any army composition you wish anywhere on the map.

o Highest value target are the bases 1-5 TH10 using loons/drags/barch for 1 star. Consider that your ultimate objective.

o All TH8 and lower bases are first come first serve. No holding or reserving these bases at any time for anyone.

· To reiterate, If you have a +X attack you are to attack that base or trade it and stay within that range on first attack. If you don’t you can attack any base on the board at any time for any reason without warning. While nice to discuss this with the +X individual it is NOT required.

Second Attack Strategy

· With the ClanXP system in place our second attack strategy will be called by 9amEST. We will either be going for ClanXP or stars depending on the situation. If going for ClanXP attack bases with 0 stars, if going for the win go for bases where you can add one or more. If unsure, ask.

· If you did not have an assigned base on first round please get your second attack in as soon as possible.

· Goal is to get 2 or more on as many TH10 as possible. TH10 should likely employ the following strategies.

o PentaGolem

o Quad/Pent Hound

o Mass super furs or similar 310 style raid

· Some TH9 will be left with 0 1 or 2 stars. Where you can add stars to these bases do so as soon as you can. At this point GoWiXX strategy becomes viable to get TH9 bases to a safe 2 star.

· If you cannot add stars anywhere look at the TH10 bases and try to get 1 star, otherwise scout, or hit an easy base for loot.

[SIZE=23.9999980926514px]General Etiquette[/SIZE]

It's expected that you use your very best troops and use appropriate spells and CC on each attack. If you are unsure what to do ask, it's always advisable to ask for a plan or detail your plan for:

-Dealing with CC troops

-Dealing with AQ, if necessary

-Spells

-What to carry in your own CC

If you simply have no ideas then say so and we will work to come up with something.

With the ClanXP situation the potting calculus becomes more tricky. Always ask prior to building for or performing a pot.

 
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Not sure if Greg keeps the links up to date but would appreciate that linked somewhere on the first page so I can find it, link it, bump it, revise it as needed.

 
We have our crack research team looking into the 310 as a viable TH9 strategy. At this time it is considered experimental for farming wars only. Thank you for your cooperation.

 
we need one of you fbg1 in Honda full time. I just watched 5 lvl7 Giants in my CC take down a TH7 with 450K of stuff practically by themselves.
:hifive:
You still clashing? Heard you quit.
Not full on quit. Got tired of wars and of what raiding at TH10 turned into. Now I just empty collectors on the TH10 accounts, and do very minimal raiding with PTTS who is end of TH7. Collectors make so much I don't even need to raid to keep TH10 labs busy, and 3 drills enough my AQ has been upgrading pretty much around the clock with a few boosts to use up remaining gems. Just kicked off L20.

Meanwhile I bounce between Quatro and Honda to not get in the way of their wars, and give out troops where I can. I still log in probably 4-5 times a day, just don't raid unless PTTS's collectors aren't keeping up with keeping his builders busy.
Boog is non-warring with a bunch of donors. Like you, I ride my shield and still collect enough resources to keep my builders working.
Could I get an invite to Boog? Not interested in warring right now, but would be happy to share.

(Maxed out at TH6 before converting to TH7 -- now with unlocked BK and about 1/3 of TH7 attacking/defending upgrades done.)

ETA: WDCOCROB

 
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Couple of things

- hogs as a first attack are very risky. A very small number of bases fit into being able to be 3 stared by hogs on first go... Th9 vs th9. A missed hog attack is 1 or 0 star.

- quad/penta loon... yes...working great

- some bases just require we get 2 and move on. It is pointless to try and 3 star every th9 (unless sandboxing, which we aren't). . We need to identify the 3 star bases... And then go for 2 on the other bases with first attacks.

- GOWIXX is great comp to ensure 2 stars. Some bases require we hit with this the first attack.

 
we need one of you fbg1 in Honda full time. I just watched 5 lvl7 Giants in my CC take down a TH7 with 450K of stuff practically by themselves.
:hifive:
You still clashing? Heard you quit.
Not full on quit. Got tired of wars and of what raiding at TH10 turned into. Now I just empty collectors on the TH10 accounts, and do very minimal raiding with PTTS who is end of TH7. Collectors make so much I don't even need to raid to keep TH10 labs busy, and 3 drills enough my AQ has been upgrading pretty much around the clock with a few boosts to use up remaining gems. Just kicked off L20.

Meanwhile I bounce between Quatro and Honda to not get in the way of their wars, and give out troops where I can. I still log in probably 4-5 times a day, just don't raid unless PTTS's collectors aren't keeping up with keeping his builders busy.
Boog is non-warring with a bunch of donors. Like you, I ride my shield and still collect enough resources to keep my builders working.
Could I get an invite to Boog? Not interested in warring right now, but would be happy to share.

(Maxed out at TH6 before converting to TH7 -- now with unlocked BK and about 1/3 of TH7 attacking/defending upgrades done.)

ETA: WDCOCROB
Search for FBG2. We will let you in.

 
Couple of things

- hogs as a first attack are very risky. A very small number of bases fit into being able to be 3 stared by hogs on first go... Th9 vs th9. A missed hog attack is 1 or 0 star.

- quad/penta loon... yes...working great

- some bases just require we get 2 and move on. It is pointless to try and 3 star every th9 (unless sandboxing, which we aren't). . We need to identify the 3 star bases... And then go for 2 on the other bases with first attacks.

- GOWIXX is great comp to ensure 2 stars. Some bases require we hit with this the first attack.
Bases that are vulnerable to hogs, I would WAY rather see an 80% one-star that shows me where the traps and teslas are than have someone Goxxxx and not touch half the base.

I agree with 3-star TH9 attacks first round. Just because you fail to get there doesn't mean the attempt wasn't far more useful than a 2-star GoXxXx.

 
Couple of things

- hogs as a first attack are very risky. A very small number of bases fit into being able to be 3 stared by hogs on first go... Th9 vs th9. A missed hog attack is 1 or 0 star.

- quad/penta loon... yes...working great

- some bases just require we get 2 and move on. It is pointless to try and 3 star every th9 (unless sandboxing, which we aren't). . We need to identify the 3 star bases... And then go for 2 on the other bases with first attacks.

- GOWIXX is great comp to ensure 2 stars. Some bases require we hit with this the first attack.
Mindset needs to be going in that first attacks from our +X are 3 star attacks or they are failures. 2 star solutions are saved for second round.

Better to try for 3 and get 0 than shoot for 2 with no shot at 3.

Gowixxx is garbage since the 4 mortar update. If you need evidence watch the last clan just flail away with it over and over. We are better than that now, we have better skills and our heroes are going up. You win wars with 3 stars, not 2 with a safe gowoppy.

 
Couple of things

- hogs as a first attack are very risky. A very small number of bases fit into being able to be 3 stared by hogs on first go... Th9 vs th9. A missed hog attack is 1 or 0 star.

- quad/penta loon... yes...working great

- some bases just require we get 2 and move on. It is pointless to try and 3 star every th9 (unless sandboxing, which we aren't). . We need to identify the 3 star bases... And then go for 2 on the other bases with first attacks.

- GOWIXX is great comp to ensure 2 stars. Some bases require we hit with this the first attack.
ur tamtam? You are nails with the quad. Not sure why you have this pov. You've pulled some quads out that are pro level.

 
My king turns 20 tomorrow. With the king done for a few months i'm going back to TeamBacon. Putting asia on notice.

 
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Couple of things

- hogs as a first attack are very risky. A very small number of bases fit into being able to be 3 stared by hogs on first go... Th9 vs th9. A missed hog attack is 1 or 0 star.

- quad/penta loon... yes...working great

- some bases just require we get 2 and move on. It is pointless to try and 3 star every th9 (unless sandboxing, which we aren't). . We need to identify the 3 star bases... And then go for 2 on the other bases with first attacks.

- GOWIXX is great comp to ensure 2 stars. Some bases require we hit with this the first attack.
Bases that are vulnerable to hogs, I would WAY rather see an 80% one-star that shows me where the traps and teslas are than have someone Goxxxx and not touch half the base.

I agree with 3-star TH9 attacks first round. Just because you fail to get there doesn't mean the attempt wasn't far more useful than a 2-star GoXxXx.
Was just going to post this. In my clan we have a number of hoggers that I am promoting because even if they wif, they typically expose the base for 2nd attacks. Love hogs against th9's and low level th10's.

 
Couple of things

- hogs as a first attack are very risky. A very small number of bases fit into being able to be 3 stared by hogs on first go... Th9 vs th9. A missed hog attack is 1 or 0 star.

- quad/penta loon... yes...working great

- some bases just require we get 2 and move on. It is pointless to try and 3 star every th9 (unless sandboxing, which we aren't). . We need to identify the 3 star bases... And then go for 2 on the other bases with first attacks.

- GOWIXX is great comp to ensure 2 stars. Some bases require we hit with this the first attack.
Bases that are vulnerable to hogs, I would WAY rather see an 80% one-star that shows me where the traps and teslas are than have someone Goxxxx and not touch half the base.

I agree with 3-star TH9 attacks first round. Just because you fail to get there doesn't mean the attempt wasn't far more useful than a 2-star GoXxXx.
Was just going to post this. In my clan we have a number of hoggers that I am promoting because even if they wif, they typically expose the base for 2nd attacks. Love hogs against th9's and low level th10's.
could you expand on this please, sounds interesting

 
Couple of things

- hogs as a first attack are very risky. A very small number of bases fit into being able to be 3 stared by hogs on first go... Th9 vs th9. A missed hog attack is 1 or 0 star.

- quad/penta loon... yes...working great

- some bases just require we get 2 and move on. It is pointless to try and 3 star every th9 (unless sandboxing, which we aren't). . We need to identify the 3 star bases... And then go for 2 on the other bases with first attacks.

- GOWIXX is great comp to ensure 2 stars. Some bases require we hit with this the first attack.
Bases that are vulnerable to hogs, I would WAY rather see an 80% one-star that shows me where the traps and teslas are than have someone Goxxxx and not touch half the base.I agree with 3-star TH9 attacks first round. Just because you fail to get there doesn't mean the attempt wasn't far more useful than a 2-star GoXxXx.
Was just going to post this. In my clan we have a number of hoggers that I am promoting because even if they wif, they typically expose the base for 2nd attacks. Love hogs against th9's and low level th10's.
could you expand on this please, sounds interesting
We do not know how to invite.

Search for "fbgs" and request to join.

 
Couple of things

- hogs as a first attack are very risky. A very small number of bases fit into being able to be 3 stared by hogs on first go... Th9 vs th9. A missed hog attack is 1 or 0 star.

- quad/penta loon... yes...working great

- some bases just require we get 2 and move on. It is pointless to try and 3 star every th9 (unless sandboxing, which we aren't). . We need to identify the 3 star bases... And then go for 2 on the other bases with first attacks.

- GOWIXX is great comp to ensure 2 stars. Some bases require we hit with this the first attack.
Mindset needs to be going in that first attacks from our +X are 3 star attacks or they are failures. 2 star solutions are saved for second round.

Better to try for 3 and get 0 than shoot for 2 with no shot at 3.

Gowixxx is garbage since the 4 mortar update. If you need evidence watch the last clan just flail away with it over and over. We are better than that now, we have better skills and our heroes are going up. You win wars with 3 stars, not 2 with a safe gowoppy.
I mean you say their gowoppy was garbage but they got 111... Not that garbage. I agree it's not a 3 star strat, but like I said sometimes 2 is fine.

We could have won (I think) if we didn't have so many failed attacks that we had to clean up and get 2 on. By that point we HAD to play it safe and get 2. I was going to try and 3 star a Giza base, but we couldn't risk it.

Yes it's tamtam, Quad/Penta is great, I've had some good attacks with it. But not every base is good for it. The base I attempted last war was not a good one for it.

 
Current FBG1 Strategery version 4.0

· First attacks on TH9 where your +X is a TH9, should not use under any circumstances.

o GoWIXX style raids of any composition

o Loonian backed with less than 4 hounds

o Mass Dragons
I haven't used four hounds in any of my last four war attacks and instead have used a comp involving only three. Will I be banned?

 
So to add to what I was saying it would just be:

Identify all bases for hounds or hogs - target 3 on first attacks

questionable bases - aim for 2 with gowiXX.

 
Couple of things

- hogs as a first attack are very risky. A very small number of bases fit into being able to be 3 stared by hogs on first go... Th9 vs th9. A missed hog attack is 1 or 0 star.

- quad/penta loon... yes...working great

- some bases just require we get 2 and move on. It is pointless to try and 3 star every th9 (unless sandboxing, which we aren't). . We need to identify the 3 star bases... And then go for 2 on the other bases with first attacks.

- GOWIXX is great comp to ensure 2 stars. Some bases require we hit with this the first attack.
Mindset needs to be going in that first attacks from our +X are 3 star attacks or they are failures. 2 star solutions are saved for second round.

Better to try for 3 and get 0 than shoot for 2 with no shot at 3.

Gowixxx is garbage since the 4 mortar update. If you need evidence watch the last clan just flail away with it over and over. We are better than that now, we have better skills and our heroes are going up. You win wars with 3 stars, not 2 with a safe gowoppy.
I mean you say their gowoppy was garbage but they got 111... Not that garbage. I agree it's not a 3 star strat, but like I said sometimes 2 is fine.

We could have won (I think) if we didn't have so many failed attacks that we had to clean up and get 2 on. By that point we HAD to play it safe and get 2. I was going to try and 3 star a Giza base, but we couldn't risk it.

Yes it's tamtam, Quad/Penta is great, I've had some good attacks with it. But not every base is good for it. The base I attempted last war was not a good one for it.
Disagree here. We left exactly one hanging 2 star on the board in the TH9 range. We "lost" or rather tied due to performance against their TH10. This has and will be our Achilles heel until our TH10 are less rushed. And by less rushed I mean heroes, primarily.

They had 14 TH10 stars including 5 2 stars. We had 1 2 star that wasn't a snipe. That's the reason for the tie. We had 4 more non TH10 3 stars than they did. That is going to win most wars if we can just hold serve in TH10 range.

 
Current FBG1 Strategery version 4.0

· First attacks on TH9 where your +X is a TH9, should not use under any circumstances.

o GoWIXX style raids of any composition

o Loonian backed with less than 4 hounds

o Mass Dragons
I haven't used four hounds in any of my last four war attacks and instead have used a comp involving only three. Will I be banned?
No rules apply to you. Period. If you try to leave or quit the game will will hunt you down with an SEC sack of cash.

 
Couple of things

- hogs as a first attack are very risky. A very small number of bases fit into being able to be 3 stared by hogs on first go... Th9 vs th9. A missed hog attack is 1 or 0 star.

- quad/penta loon... yes...working great

- some bases just require we get 2 and move on. It is pointless to try and 3 star every th9 (unless sandboxing, which we aren't). . We need to identify the 3 star bases... And then go for 2 on the other bases with first attacks.

- GOWIXX is great comp to ensure 2 stars. Some bases require we hit with this the first attack.
Mindset needs to be going in that first attacks from our +X are 3 star attacks or they are failures. 2 star solutions are saved for second round.

Better to try for 3 and get 0 than shoot for 2 with no shot at 3.

Gowixxx is garbage since the 4 mortar update. If you need evidence watch the last clan just flail away with it over and over. We are better than that now, we have better skills and our heroes are going up. You win wars with 3 stars, not 2 with a safe gowoppy.
I mean you say their gowoppy was garbage but they got 111... Not that garbage. I agree it's not a 3 star strat, but like I said sometimes 2 is fine.

We could have won (I think) if we didn't have so many failed attacks that we had to clean up and get 2 on. By that point we HAD to play it safe and get 2. I was going to try and 3 star a Giza base, but we couldn't risk it.

Yes it's tamtam, Quad/Penta is great, I've had some good attacks with it. But not every base is good for it. The base I attempted last war was not a good one for it.
I disagree on that last war base not being good for it. His base was designed to funnel loons around the edges but all was needed to get to the center was two choke points. Then hounds and 5 or 6 loons would have destroyed the middle where his AA was.

I tried warning of this but both attempts at that base ignored creating a funnel and his AA just destroyed the hounds as loons circled and then finished off loons.

Have to create an optimal path for your loons or it's a fail 9 out of 10 times.

 
Current FBG1 Strategery version 4.0

· First attacks on TH9 where your +X is a TH9, should not use under any circumstances.

o GoWIXX style raids of any composition

o Loonian backed with less than 4 hounds

o Mass Dragons
I haven't used four hounds in any of my last four war attacks and instead have used a comp involving only three. Will I be banned?
I'm going to continue to use gowipes on my assigned TH9 targets because: (1) I have had some success in occasionally pulling off a three star, and (2) I am terrible with lava hounds. If I'm assigned a base that is good for hounds, get my attention and have me switch with someone who was assigned an anti air base.

 
Couple of things

- hogs as a first attack are very risky. A very small number of bases fit into being able to be 3 stared by hogs on first go... Th9 vs th9. A missed hog attack is 1 or 0 star.

- quad/penta loon... yes...working great

- some bases just require we get 2 and move on. It is pointless to try and 3 star every th9 (unless sandboxing, which we aren't). . We need to identify the 3 star bases... And then go for 2 on the other bases with first attacks.

- GOWIXX is great comp to ensure 2 stars. Some bases require we hit with this the first attack.
Mindset needs to be going in that first attacks from our +X are 3 star attacks or they are failures. 2 star solutions are saved for second round.

Better to try for 3 and get 0 than shoot for 2 with no shot at 3.

Gowixxx is garbage since the 4 mortar update. If you need evidence watch the last clan just flail away with it over and over. We are better than that now, we have better skills and our heroes are going up. You win wars with 3 stars, not 2 with a safe gowoppy.
I mean you say their gowoppy was garbage but they got 111... Not that garbage. I agree it's not a 3 star strat, but like I said sometimes 2 is fine. We could have won (I think) if we didn't have so many failed attacks that we had to clean up and get 2 on. By that point we HAD to play it safe and get 2. I was going to try and 3 star a Giza base, but we couldn't risk it.

Yes it's tamtam, Quad/Penta is great, I've had some good attacks with it. But not every base is good for it. The base I attempted last war was not a good one for it.
I disagree on that last war base not being good for it. His base was designed to funnel loons around the edges but all was needed to get to the center was two choke points. Then hounds and 5 or 6 loons would have destroyed the middle where his AA was. I tried warning of this but both attempts at that base ignored creating a funnel and his AA just destroyed the hounds as loons circled and then finished off loons.

Have to create an optimal path for your loons or it's a fail 9 out of 10 times.
Having to execute a flawless attack that requires doing 4 or 5 things perfectly is exactly what I am talking about. I discussed attack strategy on this base, and I know another person did as well. Both failed.

If instead I go for two on first attack, then others can try for 3 instead of being forced into a MUST 2.

 
could you expand on this please, sounds interesting
I run a 45 member clan with a wide array of bases from th5 to a medium developed th9 (me). I never embraced the golem/pekka attack so I pursued loons/hounds/hogs. In the last few weeks a few of our th8's have got to lvl4 hogs so I'm trying to get them to embrace some form of holo attack. Typically hogs will at a minimum trip most bombs/traps and expose tesla's while they work their way through the base. Unless they completely wif they typically last long enough to expose the base and usually pick up 2 stars. If not it's a great blueprint for the second attack.
Remember that time somebody declared hogs absolutely dead?
Made me giggle
 
Couple of things

- hogs as a first attack are very risky. A very small number of bases fit into being able to be 3 stared by hogs on first go... Th9 vs th9. A missed hog attack is 1 or 0 star.

- quad/penta loon... yes...working great

- some bases just require we get 2 and move on. It is pointless to try and 3 star every th9 (unless sandboxing, which we aren't). . We need to identify the 3 star bases... And then go for 2 on the other bases with first attacks.

- GOWIXX is great comp to ensure 2 stars. Some bases require we hit with this the first attack.
Mindset needs to be going in that first attacks from our +X are 3 star attacks or they are failures. 2 star solutions are saved for second round.

Better to try for 3 and get 0 than shoot for 2 with no shot at 3.

Gowixxx is garbage since the 4 mortar update. If you need evidence watch the last clan just flail away with it over and over. We are better than that now, we have better skills and our heroes are going up. You win wars with 3 stars, not 2 with a safe gowoppy.
I mean you say their gowoppy was garbage but they got 111... Not that garbage. I agree it's not a 3 star strat, but like I said sometimes 2 is fine. We could have won (I think) if we didn't have so many failed attacks that we had to clean up and get 2 on. By that point we HAD to play it safe and get 2. I was going to try and 3 star a Giza base, but we couldn't risk it.

Yes it's tamtam, Quad/Penta is great, I've had some good attacks with it. But not every base is good for it. The base I attempted last war was not a good one for it.
I disagree on that last war base not being good for it. His base was designed to funnel loons around the edges but all was needed to get to the center was two choke points. Then hounds and 5 or 6 loons would have destroyed the middle where his AA was. I tried warning of this but both attempts at that base ignored creating a funnel and his AA just destroyed the hounds as loons circled and then finished off loons.

Have to create an optimal path for your loons or it's a fail 9 out of 10 times.
Having to execute a flawless attack that requires doing 4 or 5 things perfectly is exactly what I am talking about. I discussed attack strategy on this base, and I know another person did as well. Both failed. If instead I go for two on first attack, then others can try for 3 instead of being forced into a MUST 2.
Discuss does not equal follow. I drew you up a attack plan to get your whole army to the middle. (If you had done this, lava pups would have taken care of the TH). The only part of the plan you followed was your army comp. Which is fine if you don't want to follow my advice, but don't waste my time asking for it without at least saying you don't like that plan. Saying yeah I got it then ignoring it 3 hours later without a word is frustrating.

HHH followed my advice with his loon tracking and even though he was way too slow getting the second batch of hounds/loons out (which he admitted i believe) he still ran over the base because we were able to get his loons to track directly to the AA. This was a giza base with down xbows.

visualizing where your loons we go is all that's needed. Imo, loons are also the easiest things to do this with because they go directly over their target. Study the base for 5 minutes and use some good ole geometry to figure out the path.

 
And if I wasn't clear on my advice, just say so and I'll discuss it again without a problem. It's hard to follow in the coc chat and I sometimes confuse myself in there.

 
I thought it was clear but I probably screwed it up. I never felt good about that base.
Sometimes, if I have that feeling...I try to trade out. There's a fine line between pushing yourself and just knowing you can't execute. I won't trade out of every base because its too tough, but, you know what I mean. Know thine self.

 
Us guys at Quattro need to up our game on both Lavaloon attacks and HoLo attacks.

Anyone have good YouTube links or otherwise for strategy on them?

 
Us guys at Quattro need to up our game on both Lavaloon attacks and HoLo attacks.

Anyone have good YouTube links or otherwise for strategy on them?
I'm working on getting some of our successful and failed attacks up in one video from our last two wars. Hopefully it can help identify the difference between the two and help. It might help to see videos that aren't from YouTube experts.

 

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