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[Black Box]

This white bandits guy sure is a #####. Bordering on getting the Jamie/Craig treatment.

Is he on the boards?

No. He is part of the bandits/ryan/crook contingent who all work with a FBG. Forget the FBG connection though.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

This white bandits guy sure is a #####. Bordering on getting the Jamie/Craig treatment.

Is he on the boards?

Don't think so. Channing's buddy? Came over with Ryan & Crook.

 

[Bobcat10]

I'm TH10 and decided to start upgrading walls when the new TH11 was introduced. My thought was people were going to be raiding like mad to upgrade all their new TH11 toys. My storage has been kept low (once I get to 500k gold or 1M elix I upgrade a wall). Most attackers against me are just dropping trophies. When I attack, I'm finding boatloads of resources. I can't keep my trophies down. This has worked well.

With the boost, it sounds like if I try to build resources up to say 7M gold, I'm going to get crushed and it will be very hard to accumulate. Is that what I'm gathering here?

 

[AcerFC]

I'm TH10 and decided to start upgrading walls when the new TH11 was introduced. My thought was people were going to be raiding like mad to upgrade all their new TH11 toys. My storage has been kept low (once I get to 500k gold or 1M elix I upgrade a wall). Most attackers against me are just dropping trophies. When I attack, I'm finding boatloads of resources. I can't keep my trophies down. This has worked well.

With the boost, it sounds like if I try to build resources up to say 7M gold, I'm going to get crushed and it will be very hard to accumulate. Is that what I'm gathering here?

When I had resources, I would get wiped clear of it all every time I logged off

 

[thecatch]

I'm TH10 and decided to start upgrading walls when the new TH11 was introduced. My thought was people were going to be raiding like mad to upgrade all their new TH11 toys. My storage has been kept low (once I get to 500k gold or 1M elix I upgrade a wall). Most attackers against me are just dropping trophies. When I attack, I'm finding boatloads of resources. I can't keep my trophies down. This has worked well.

With the boost, it sounds like if I try to build resources up to say 7M gold, I'm going to get crushed and it will be very hard to accumulate. Is that what I'm gathering here?

Basically. If you are on a really aggressive raiding schedule it sounds like you can keep your head above water. I do think stockpiles of elixir are more attractive to attackers than gold FWIW.

 

[freeannyong]

This white bandits guy sure is a #####. Bordering on getting the Jamie/Craig treatment.

Is he on the boards?

Don't think so. Channing's buddy? Came over with Ryan & Crook.

I think that is correct and yeah he is pretty salty recently.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

You really can't stockpile anything. At TH9, I can't build and save. I have to target what I want to upgrade, boost my racks for two hours, get the g/e/de and then build. I did this yesterday. Played to upgrade a sweeper, did better than expected, and played to build a wiz tower instead. Unexpected bonus: had enough elixir to upgrade a drill.

The loot is good but don't expect to hang on to it if your storages are at 25% or fuller. Kind of a drag for those of us that can't always get an hour away (dang kids).

 

[Bobcat10]

I'm TH10 and decided to start upgrading walls when the new TH11 was introduced. My thought was people were going to be raiding like mad to upgrade all their new TH11 toys. My storage has been kept low (once I get to 500k gold or 1M elix I upgrade a wall). Most attackers against me are just dropping trophies. When I attack, I'm finding boatloads of resources. I can't keep my trophies down. This has worked well.

With the boost, it sounds like if I try to build resources up to say 7M gold, I'm going to get crushed and it will be very hard to accumulate. Is that what I'm gathering here?

Basically. If you are on a really aggressive raiding schedule it sounds like you can keep your head above water. I do think stockpiles of elixir are more attractive to attackers than gold FWIW.

Why is that? Gold upgrades defense for the most part. Since I basically maxed out my Research, I haven't had much need for elixir.

 

[thecatch]

I'm TH10 and decided to start upgrading walls when the new TH11 was introduced. My thought was people were going to be raiding like mad to upgrade all their new TH11 toys. My storage has been kept low (once I get to 500k gold or 1M elix I upgrade a wall). Most attackers against me are just dropping trophies. When I attack, I'm finding boatloads of resources. I can't keep my trophies down. This has worked well.

With the boost, it sounds like if I try to build resources up to say 7M gold, I'm going to get crushed and it will be very hard to accumulate. Is that what I'm gathering here?

Basically. If you are on a really aggressive raiding schedule it sounds like you can keep your head above water. I do think stockpiles of elixir are more attractive to attackers than gold FWIW.

Why is that? Gold upgrades defense for the most part. Since I basically maxed out my Research, I haven't had much need for elixir.

The warden upgrade is requiring previously maxed bases to start farming elixir pretty intensively again.

 

[MindCrime]

This white bandits guy sure is a #####. Bordering on getting the Jamie/Craig treatment.

Is he on the boards?

Don't think so. Channing's buddy? Came over with Ryan & Crook.

I think that is correct and yeah he is pretty salty recently.

And this is why we need JRK back!

 

[Clayton Gray]

You really can't stockpile anything. At TH9, I can't build and save. I have to target what I want to upgrade, boost my racks for two hours, get the g/e/de and then build. I did this yesterday. Played to upgrade a sweeper, did better than expected, and played to build a wiz tower instead. Unexpected bonus: had enough elixir to upgrade a drill.

The loot is good but don't expect to hang on to it if your storages are at 25% or fuller. Kind of a drag for those of us that can't always get an hour away (dang kids).

I can't agree with this. On one account that I only war with, I've started two Level 7 Tesla upgrades since the update dropped. I've been dropping the elixir into walls, so saving only gold hasn't been too difficult.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

You really can't stockpile anything. At TH9, I can't build and save. I have to target what I want to upgrade, boost my racks for two hours, get the g/e/de and then build. I did this yesterday. Played to upgrade a sweeper, did better than expected, and played to build a wiz tower instead. Unexpected bonus: had enough elixir to upgrade a drill.

The loot is good but don't expect to hang on to it if your storages are at 25% or fuller. Kind of a drag for those of us that can't always get an hour away (dang kids).

I can't agree with this. On one account that I only war with, I've started two Level 7 Tesla upgrades since the update dropped. I've been dropping the elixir into walls, so saving only gold hasn't been too difficult.

I can't agree with this. It's been much more difficult accumulating large amounts of resources post upgrade.

I can't agree with this. I've been accumulating boatloads of resources since the update. Walls are getting done very quickly and never have a lack of DE for hero upgrades.

 

[Clayton Gray]

Agreed.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

One thing I've been doing that helps with DE...

If you get a 14 or 16 hour shield build 4 lightning spells and revenge a base with a ton of DE in the drills (2 zaps and possibly an EQ on each drill). That should net you 1000-2000 DE (or more if you get really lucky) and you can still stay under a shield long enough that most of your raid losses are replaced by collectors/mines/drills.

 

[coyote5]

You really can't stockpile anything. At TH9, I can't build and save. I have to target what I want to upgrade, boost my racks for two hours, get the g/e/de and then build. I did this yesterday. Played to upgrade a sweeper, did better than expected, and played to build a wiz tower instead. Unexpected bonus: had enough elixir to upgrade a drill.

The loot is good but don't expect to hang on to it if your storages are at 25% or fuller. Kind of a drag for those of us that can't always get an hour away (dang kids).

I can't agree with this. On one account that I only war with, I've started two Level 7 Tesla upgrades since the update dropped. I've been dropping the elixir into walls, so saving only gold hasn't been too difficult.

I can't agree with this. It's been much more difficult accumulating large amounts of resources post upgrade.

I can't agree with this. I've been accumulating boatloads of resources since the update. Walls are getting done very quickly and never have a lack of DE for hero upgrades.

not possible if you're playing casually. I used to be able to raid at my current pace and do well enough to get a few walls done every other day or so. I've done one since the update. Elixir being put into walls is impossible since my raiding army has gotten quite expensive. This update has just taken the fun out it. Feels like too much of a chore now.

I can't agree with this. You're having fun.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

You really can't stockpile anything. At TH9, I can't build and save. I have to target what I want to upgrade, boost my racks for two hours, get the g/e/de and then build. I did this yesterday. Played to upgrade a sweeper, did better than expected, and played to build a wiz tower instead. Unexpected bonus: had enough elixir to upgrade a drill.

The loot is good but don't expect to hang on to it if your storages are at 25% or fuller. Kind of a drag for those of us that can't always get an hour away (dang kids).

I can't agree with this. On one account that I only war with, I've started two Level 7 Tesla upgrades since the update dropped. I've been dropping the elixir into walls, so saving only gold hasn't been too difficult.

I can't agree with this. It's been much more difficult accumulating large amounts of resources post upgrade.

I can't agree with this. I've been accumulating boatloads of resources since the update. Walls are getting done very quickly and never have a lack of DE for hero upgrades.

not possible if you're playing casually. I used to be able to raid at my current pace and do well enough to get a few walls done every other day or so. I've done one since the update. Elixir being put into walls is impossible since my raiding army has gotten quite expensive. This update has just taken the fun out it. Feels like too much of a chore now.

I don't agree with this. I guess it depends how you define casually. To get a couple raids in at night, I use to have to keep my phone active so I didn't get logged off and hit. With the guard/shield, I can raid, put my phone away, raid again when I get the notification, rinse, repeat. Also having a massive increase in targets means I spend significantly less time hitting next. It used to be 10-15 minutes before finding something. Now its 10-15 'nexts'.

 

[EYLive]

I wonder if it's worth using war-type attacks (2 golems or hounds) for regular raiding now. I mean, if the DE loot is 1500+ it'll be a nice net gain.

I think i just answered my own question...

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I wonder if it's worth using war-type attacks (2 golems or hounds) for regular raiding now. I mean, if the DE loot is 1500+ it'll be a nice net gain.

I think i just answered my own question...

AQ + 4 healers

12 furs

88 archers

8 WBs

2 rage

1 heal

1 jump

CC Wiz/Archers

There is no TH9 base where you can't get the DE with that comp (unless you screw up) and it costs zero DE.

Edit: I go Lavaloon when my AQ is down. Takes for ever to accumulate DE.

 

[thecatch]

You really can't stockpile anything. At TH9, I can't build and save. I have to target what I want to upgrade, boost my racks for two hours, get the g/e/de and then build. I did this yesterday. Played to upgrade a sweeper, did better than expected, and played to build a wiz tower instead. Unexpected bonus: had enough elixir to upgrade a drill.

The loot is good but don't expect to hang on to it if your storages are at 25% or fuller. Kind of a drag for those of us that can't always get an hour away (dang kids).

I can't agree with this. On one account that I only war with, I've started two Level 7 Tesla upgrades since the update dropped. I've been dropping the elixir into walls, so saving only gold hasn't been too difficult.

I can't agree with this. It's been much more difficult accumulating large amounts of resources post upgrade.

I can't agree with this. I've been accumulating boatloads of resources since the update. Walls are getting done very quickly and never have a lack of DE for hero upgrades.

not possible if you're playing casually. I used to be able to raid at my current pace and do well enough to get a few walls done every other day or so. I've done one since the update. Elixir being put into walls is impossible since my raiding army has gotten quite expensive. This update has just taken the fun out it. Feels like too much of a chore now.

I don't agree with this. I guess it depends how you define casually. To get a couple raids in at night, I use to have to keep my phone active so I didn't get logged off and hit. With the guard/shield, I can raid, put my phone away, raid again when I get the notification, rinse, repeat. Also having a massive increase in targets means I spend significantly less time hitting next. It used to be 10-15 minutes before finding something. Now its 10-15 'nexts'.

Just looking at the attacks won statistic, you're one of the most active in FBGs based on my unscientific spot check - less than half of the super hardcore guys like doc, but ~3x more active than where I think most of the clan is at (which appears to be, based on the current numbers, about 30ish attacks won).

 

[The Duff Man]

Casual play used to mean logging on once a day to raid, get a shield and empty collectors.

I don't think you can advance like this anymore. Especially not with elixir. Gold you might be Ok.

With only one raid per shield if you are losing 250k elix and raiding with a 250k army you will need 500k EVERY raid to break even.

If you slip up and don't get a star you go in the hole.

With two raids you can shoot for a more reasonable 400k per (achievable at Champs) and that nets you 50k. Will take a long time to accumulate enough to upgrade TH10 items.

3+ raids per shield are going to be needed to advance with elixir.

Get a shield. Raid

Log off for 1.5 hrs to rebuild

Raid

Log off for 1.5 hrs to rebuild

Raid

If you gem your spell factory and have good timing you can get in a 4th attack before guard expires.

I don't see how anyone will advance with only one attack per shield. But it can still be casual. With less nexting when I log on it is only 6-7 min.

It is just a different kind of "casual"

 

[coyote5]

You really can't stockpile anything. At TH9, I can't build and save. I have to target what I want to upgrade, boost my racks for two hours, get the g/e/de and then build. I did this yesterday. Played to upgrade a sweeper, did better than expected, and played to build a wiz tower instead. Unexpected bonus: had enough elixir to upgrade a drill.

The loot is good but don't expect to hang on to it if your storages are at 25% or fuller. Kind of a drag for those of us that can't always get an hour away (dang kids).

I can't agree with this. On one account that I only war with, I've started two Level 7 Tesla upgrades since the update dropped. I've been dropping the elixir into walls, so saving only gold hasn't been too difficult.

I can't agree with this. It's been much more difficult accumulating large amounts of resources post upgrade.

I can't agree with this. I've been accumulating boatloads of resources since the update. Walls are getting done very quickly and never have a lack of DE for hero upgrades.

not possible if you're playing casually. I used to be able to raid at my current pace and do well enough to get a few walls done every other day or so. I've done one since the update. Elixir being put into walls is impossible since my raiding army has gotten quite expensive. This update has just taken the fun out it. Feels like too much of a chore now.

I can't agree with this. You're having fun.

Okay. You know exactly how I'm feeling.

I agree with this.

 

[Cyclones]

Alright damnit I'm coming back to war. fbgs is the clan name right?

I may be rusty at first.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Just looking at the attacks won statistic, you're one of the most active in FBGs based on my unscientific spot check - less than half of the super hardcore guys like doc, but ~3x more active than where I think most of the clan is at (which appears to be, based on the current numbers, about 30ish attacks won).

I wouldn't argue that. 5 attacks a day during the week and weekends are variable. Not much difference than pre-update but post-update it takes significantly less time and I don't have to keep my phone active.

 

[Clayton Gray]

You really can't stockpile anything. At TH9, I can't build and save. I have to target what I want to upgrade, boost my racks for two hours, get the g/e/de and then build. I did this yesterday. Played to upgrade a sweeper, did better than expected, and played to build a wiz tower instead. Unexpected bonus: had enough elixir to upgrade a drill.

The loot is good but don't expect to hang on to it if your storages are at 25% or fuller. Kind of a drag for those of us that can't always get an hour away (dang kids).

I can't agree with this. On one account that I only war with, I've started two Level 7 Tesla upgrades since the update dropped. I've been dropping the elixir into walls, so saving only gold hasn't been too difficult.

I can't agree with this. It's been much more difficult accumulating large amounts of resources post upgrade.

I can't agree with this. I've been accumulating boatloads of resources since the update. Walls are getting done very quickly and never have a lack of DE for hero upgrades.

not possible if you're playing casually. I used to be able to raid at my current pace and do well enough to get a few walls done every other day or so. I've done one since the update. Elixir being put into walls is impossible since my raiding army has gotten quite expensive. This update has just taken the fun out it. Feels like too much of a chore now.

My experience is that it is in fact possible. My lkjhgffdsa account is doing it.

 

[MindCrime]

Alright damnit I'm coming back to war. fbgs is the clan name right?

I may be rusty at first.

Now This I agree with!! Welcome back JRK.

/sml

 

[MindCrime]

Alright damnit I'm coming back to war. fbgs is the clan name right?

I may be rusty at first.

What trophy level? Yes, FBGS

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I have 95 attacks won this season, Bucky has 92. The reason why I have boatloads and he doesn't? Bonus. I get 180K/180K/1220 per attack. All the dropping to Crystal/Gold is nonsense.

 

[Cyclones]

I'm assuming I have around 3k trophies.

My son played some but I probably broke even. Haven't looked at it in months.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I have 95 attacks won this season, Bucky has 92. The reason why I have boatloads and he doesn't? Bonus. I get 180K/180K/1220 per attack. All the dropping to Crystal/Gold is nonsense.

17,100,000 Gold, 17,100,000 and 112,240 DE in bonuses. Push to champs people. You're losing out.

 

[beer 30]

I feel pretty lucky that I am done with TH9 except walls & hero's. I'm grinding hero's to 20/20 and sitting at TH9 until they un#### this update because you know it's coming. No way I would advance to TH10 at this point with the massive elixir/gold amounts required for camp/defense upgrades. No way I could grind it and I boost for 2hrs a night and most times at least an hour in the morning. Not interested in being on the bottom of the totem pole again for the next 6 months.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Alright damnit I'm coming back to war. fbgs is the clan name right?

I may be rusty at first.

You were rusty when you left.

Welcome back.

 

[Clayton Gray]

You really can't stockpile anything. At TH9, I can't build and save. I have to target what I want to upgrade, boost my racks for two hours, get the g/e/de and then build. I did this yesterday. Played to upgrade a sweeper, did better than expected, and played to build a wiz tower instead. Unexpected bonus: had enough elixir to upgrade a drill.

The loot is good but don't expect to hang on to it if your storages are at 25% or fuller. Kind of a drag for those of us that can't always get an hour away (dang kids).

I can't agree with this. On one account that I only war with, I've started two Level 7 Tesla upgrades since the update dropped. I've been dropping the elixir into walls, so saving only gold hasn't been too difficult.

I can't agree with this. It's been much more difficult accumulating large amounts of resources post upgrade.

I can't agree with this. I've been accumulating boatloads of resources since the update. Walls are getting done very quickly and never have a lack of DE for hero upgrades.

not possible if you're playing casually. I used to be able to raid at my current pace and do well enough to get a few walls done every other day or so. I've done one since the update. Elixir being put into walls is impossible since my raiding army has gotten quite expensive. This update has just taken the fun out it. Feels like too much of a chore now.

Why did you move to TH10 if you can't get resources? How are you going to upgrade?

 

[Clayton Gray]

Alright damnit I'm coming back to war. fbgs is the clan name right?

I may be rusty at first.

You were rusty when you left.

Welcome back.

 

[The Future Champs]

I wonder if it's worth using war-type attacks (2 golems or hounds) for regular raiding now. I mean, if the DE loot is 1500+ it'll be a nice net gain.

I think i just answered my own question...

Maybe. What's your priority, de or elixir? If you aren't prioritizing de gains, war style attacks are awesome practice for wars, obviously. Nothing builds confidence like a solid two star attack that's planned in 30 seconds.

I'm after de. My stock army now is AQ20, 16 furs, 16 wiz, 8 wbs, 4 gobs, 4 healers, 3 rage, 1 jump; most of my attacks use about 1/2 the furs/wiz to funnel the AQ walk, and 1/2 the wbs to open up the first walls, plus 1-2 rages. BK rarely sees the field - he's emergency backup. I'll typically get 60% of the base, de storage, 1/2 the g/e storages, th, and that's hitting close to max th9s.

Ani's posting GiGob attacks that look like a great way to farm de, although the base selection is a little more problematic, and the cc must be dealt with before launching the main attack.

 

[Cyclones]

so a search of "fbgs" returns results that have only 1 or 3 members in the clans. Do I need an invite?

 

[Shoot_Me_Now]

so a search of "fbgs" returns results that have only 1 or 3 members in the clans. Do I need an invite?

How many trophies you got?

 

[Cyclones]

so a search of "fbgs" returns results that have only 1 or 3 members in the clans. Do I need an invite?

How many trophies you got?

2949

 

[AcerFC]

It is just a different kind of "casual"

This doesn't sound like the kind of casual for me. If its that tough, im quitting. I like my morning and night raids and collection of resources.

 

[Shoot_Me_Now]

so a search of "fbgs" returns results that have only 1 or 3 members in the clans. Do I need an invite?

How many trophies you got?

2949

Should be able to find us now.

 

[coyote5]

GB reddit

 

[thecatch]

I have 183 defenses won dropping trophies is great for those who want to push for that Unbreakable achievement.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I have 95 attacks won this season, Bucky has 92. The reason why I have boatloads and he doesn't? Bonus. I get 180K/180K/1220 per attack. All the dropping to Crystal/Gold is nonsense.

17,100,000 Gold, 17,100,000 and 112,240 DE in bonuses. Push to champs people. You're losing out.

Had the bonus wrong. 200K of each so 19,000,000 in potential bonuses. There is no possible way the loot is that much better down low that you make up that.

 

[MindCrime]

Sittin in masters 1 and flattening people for 300/300/3500 within 30 nexts. The last two days have been really good. Floated back up to champs for a few hours, but started seeing max th10 and some 11's. I'd rather feed on new th10s and drop trophies every few attacks when needed.

 

[culdeus]

I have 95 attacks won this season, Bucky has 92. The reason why I have boatloads and he doesn't? Bonus. I get 180K/180K/1220 per attack. All the dropping to Crystal/Gold is nonsense.

17,100,000 Gold, 17,100,000 and 112,240 DE in bonuses. Push to champs people. You're losing out.

Had the bonus wrong. 200K of each so 19,000,000 in potential bonuses. There is no possible way the loot is that much better down low that you make up that.

It's not the loot its not having to drop 300k to get 400k. And if you blow a raid its not a 4 raid setback to just get back to square one.

Making de cheaply now is bullying th9 for their cap which is about 2200 or finding a ####ty th10 offering 3000. 4 healers, some wbs and archers is all it needs with a good queen. Keep rages in reserve for emergency.

I'd be interested in seeing your attack log. Th9 are a little different. You still get th8 which are hopeless in defending giants. Th9 can't defend sq. But th8 can't spend elixer so that tends to lean things towards th9 overall.

 

[freeannyong]

Three parts, all long reads but a lot of good thoughts here:

http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/939227-Dynamic-systems-how-they-interact-and-the-December-Clash-Update

http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/941974-Dynamic-Systems-and-the-December-Clash-Update-Part-2-%28The-trophy-economy-%29

http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/954834-Dynamic-systems-pt-3-Shields-and-matchmaking-how-no-sniping-alters-availability

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I have 95 attacks won this season, Bucky has 92. The reason why I have boatloads and he doesn't? Bonus. I get 180K/180K/1220 per attack. All the dropping to Crystal/Gold is nonsense.

17,100,000 Gold, 17,100,000 and 112,240 DE in bonuses. Push to champs people. You're losing out.

Had the bonus wrong. 200K of each so 19,000,000 in potential bonuses. There is no possible way the loot is that much better down low that you make up that.

It's not the loot its not having to drop 300k to get 400k. And if you blow a raid its not a 4 raid setback to just get back to square one. Making de cheaply now is bullying th9 for their cap which is about 2200 or finding a ####ty th10 offering 3000. 4 healers, some wbs and archers is all it needs with a good queen. Keep rages in reserve for emergency.

I'd be interested in seeing your attack log. Th9 are a little different. You still get th8 which are hopeless in defending giants. Th9 can't defend sq. But th8 can't spend elixer so that tends to lean things towards th9 overall.

I'm not talking about TH10, just TH9. I rarely see TH8s since update. Got one this morning right after the break and had maybe one other since the break. I'm also higher in trophies than I've ever been so that may be why. Everything is a close to, or max TH9.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Screenshot:http://imgur.com/a/EboGh

Edit: and I'm looking for nothing but DE. I'll pass over a 300/300/sub-1500. Last few are with no AQ which really sucks.

 

[culdeus]

Screenshot:http://imgur.com/a/EboGh

Edit: and I'm looking for nothing but DE. I'll pass over a 300/300/sub-1500. Last few are with no AQ which really sucks.

Without passing this to an auditor I'm gonna guess this log as shown is - on elixer with the bonus. This is basically my raiding army but much heavier on spells and giants and I'm treading water on elixer for most part.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Just silly amounts of loot out there right now.

Killing it in Masters 1 & 2.

 

[MindCrime]

Just silly amounts of loot out there right now.

Killing it in Masters 1 & 2.

Agreed. Been building heavy, but it's been well worth it.