Clinton Portis -- 2010 and beyond (1 Viewer)

[the spanker]

Silly value as a RB4. Christ, I'm gonna draft Portis again, aren't I?

LolI know what you mean. As a Skins homer I try NOT to draft Portis but have had him a few times over the years. Usually b/c he became too good a value to pass up. This year he really could be silly value as his stock has plummeted.One reporter on local sportstalk was almost giddy talking about CP yesterday saying how "spry" he looked. I'm skeptical if someone with his mileage can truly regain some of the burst and quickness he has clearly lost over the years but he is lighter and back in Shanny's system. I am headed to camp this morning and will get to observe for myself even if it is only in shorts.The one thing I think holding him back from being ridiculous value is Larry Johnson, who I am higher on than most, and who I think may take a few of the TDs from Clinton that have helped his value in the past.

I wouldn't worry about LJ being any real factor anytime soon.

 

[VaTerp]

I am headed to camp this morning and will get to observe for myself even if it is only in shorts.

Nothing too noteworthy. None of the RBs, inlcuding Portis, really stood out. Portis looked pretty good but I definitely wouldn't say he was "spry" or overly impressive.Larry Johnson seemed to run the hardest and ran out almost all of his rushes all the way to the goaline during 7 on 7; something the other RBs didn't do.During 11 on 11 all 5 Rbs got some work. Both LJ and Portis had some nice runs and Portis caught several passes out of the backfield. Torrain actually had the 2 most impressive runs of the day IMO. Parker had a nice run or two but also fumbled once, the only one I saw all morning. It was just one morning of practice at the beginning of camp so can't draw anything conclusive. I will say though that since Torrain could potentially play special teams I think he wins a roster spot over Parker. And I think Portis is still good value in FF leagues but I just have a gut feeling about Larry Johnson as someone you can get in the later rounds who could help you in spots. I think the Skins running game will end up being effective, but as was the case during several of Shanny's years in Denver, I think it may be a bit unpredictable as to who gets the carries from week to week. Could be good for Redskin fans but bad for FF. But considering the ADPs, I think a small investment in the Skins running game could pay some dividends.

 

[a.wilkersonjr]

I think Portis will be great this season. He's completely bought into Shanahan's system, and accepted his new coach's conditioning challenge by showing up 13lbs lighter than last season's 230. The Redskin's have already stated that they are banking on Portis's return to stardom this season (bleacherreport.com). In better shape, healthy, and in Shanny's system, Portis still has enough in the tank to keep on rolling for another season or two. I don't think he's worth a keeper pick in dynasty leagues though.

 

[Barry]

bumping for some up to date Redskin insight. seems like an interesting Rb option this year.

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[schooner44]

I've avoided Portis like the plague since his rookie year simply due to his inconsistent nature (injuries included) however this year his value vs ADP is almost going to force me to draft him. I watched the Skins/Bills game a few nights ago and he looked very solid in his brief appearance. Add that to the fact that he's got McNabb now, he will be a top 15 RB, this year...possibly top 10 in ppr. Thats pretty good for a guy who can likely be had in the 5th round.

 

[fatness]

The Redskins' run blocking looked better against the Bills than they looked at any time last year. It's a preseason game against a not-real-good team, but it bears watching.

 

[gbill2004]

I just got Portis in round 12 of a 12 teamer.

 

[Sweet Love]

I just got Portis in round 12 of a 12 teamer.

Sick value...just thinking a few hours ago how he is looking good, but never thought he would go THAT low...kudos to you.

 

[dgreen]

Update on Washington's RB situation:

Washington Redskins concerned by backfield depth, even after adding Pro Bowlers

During the offseason, a league source told us the Redskins had concerns about their depth behind top back Clinton Portis and were even considering extending an offer to former longtime backup Ladell Betts.

The source has helped us in providing information for many news reports, and his information has always been proven accurate, but I still had my doubts. The Redskins had already signed former Pro Bowlers Larry Johnson and Willie Parker to compete with Portis for the first-string job, and it just seemed strange to me that they would be down on those guys before training camp even began.

Well, the source called shortly after watching Larry Johnson struggle during Saturday's 23-3 loss to the Baltimore Ravens. "That's what I was talking about," he said.

In his "showcase" game in the running back rotation, Johnson started and gained four yards on eight rushes, performed woefully in the key area of blitz pick-ups and failed to come up with the ball on a short pass from quarterback Donovan McNabb. In fairness to Johnson, the Redskins did not have their best day blocking.

Terrell Suggs blew up rookie left tackle Trent Williams on one of Johnson's rushes and dropped him for a loss. Fullback Mike Sellers whiffed on another running play and Johnson never had a chance. But during Portis's opportunities with the first-team offensive line, he had a couple of nice runs and seemed to be in rhythm from the moment he stepped on the field.

Blocking has never been among Johnson's strengths, but backs who repeatedly fail in blitz pick-ups will not play under Coach Mike Shanahan, the source said. No coach protects quarterbacks better than Shanahan, and backs play a huge role in his blocking scheme, both in making reads in the zone-running game and in pass protection.

Parker is scheduled to start Friday night against the New York Jets at New Meadowlands Stadium. He has been listed behind Portis and Johnson since the first depth chart was released, but it seems Johnson's ineffective outing has left the door ajar for Parker to make a move if he performs well.

At this point, many in the organization privately acknowledge that Portis, barring unforeseen circumstances, will line up with the first-team offense Sept. 12 against the Dallas Cowboys at FedEx Field. Who will be his primary backup?

Johnson or Parker still could make the opening 53-man roster, but it also wouldn't be shocking if both were released. The Redskins are high on young backs Ryan Torain and Keiland Williams, and there are two preseason games remaining.

When Shanahan was with the Denver Broncos, he sometimes made surprising roster moves in choosing younger players over established veterans. It's still unknown which path Shanahan will take with the backup spots, but at least Portis's role seems clear.

 

[Namvet4]

Update on Washington's RB situation:

Washington Redskins concerned by backfield depth, even after adding Pro Bowlers

Johnson or Parker still could make the opening 53-man roster, but it also wouldn't be shocking if both were released. The Redskins are high on young backs Ryan Torain and Keiland Williams, and there are two preseason games remaining.

When Shanahan was with the Denver Broncos, he sometimes made surprising roster moves in choosing younger players over established veterans. It's still unknown which path Shanahan will take with the backup spots, but at least Portis's role seems clear.

I think Parker makes it and Johnson is the odd man out, especially with the younger backs making a positive impression. This is a Team in transition and IMHO, Shanahan will favor the youngsters to back up an aging Portis with Parker seeing limited action.

 

[fatness]

Update on Washington's RB situation:

Johnson or Parker still could make the opening 53-man roster, but it also wouldn't be shocking if both were released. The Redskins are high on young backs Ryan Torain and Keiland Williams, and there are two preseason games remaining.

How are Torain and Williams at blocking?

 

[Northern Voice]

So, Portis carries 20+ times a week until he gets hurt (whether that be week 2 or week 14), because there are no other capable options?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Update on Washington's RB situation:

Johnson or Parker still could make the opening 53-man roster, but it also wouldn't be shocking if both were released. The Redskins are high on young backs Ryan Torain and Keiland Williams, and there are two preseason games remaining.

How are Torain and Williams at blocking?

They can't be much worse than Johnson (aka The Matador)

 

[SCT]

Anybody else think Portis could be SOD this year?

Also, LT....I can see him taking over for Greene behind a better line than he's had at SD for a while.

Either one of these guys would be a great rb3 in leagues where you can start three, IMO.

 

[Stealthycat]

I still have the feeling Torain is the guy that will be running for Shanny mid-season

 

[dgreen]

Update on Washington's RB situation:

Johnson or Parker still could make the opening 53-man roster, but it also wouldn't be shocking if both were released. The Redskins are high on young backs Ryan Torain and Keiland Williams, and there are two preseason games remaining.

How are Torain and Williams at blocking?

Not exactly sure, but I'm confident in saying they are way better than LJ and way worse than Portis.I think a key to Portis' fantasy value in 2010 is that he's the 3rd down RB because of his protection abilities. If that can lead to 50+ receptions, that's a nice boost for him.

 

[dgreen]

So, Portis carries 20+ times a week until he gets hurt (whether that be week 2 or week 14), because there are no other capable options?

At this second, I'm thinking 20 touches per game might be accurate. If another RB starts to impress some, that number could easily drop. But, up until recently, I think a lot of people were assuming LJ would see some significant action. He received good reviews during the offseason programs and had most people thinking the 2009 Cincy version was more accurate than the 2009 KC version. He had a very rough outing against a great D.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

1. Larry Johnson and Willie Parker could both get cut

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 24, 2010 12:04 PM ET

Use up all your jokes about the Redskins backfield while you can, because the 2005 fantasy football All Stars may get broken up before the season even starts.

We’ve said all offseason that Willie Parker had an uphill battle to make the roster. Now Jason Reid of the Washington Post writes that it “wouldn’t be shocking” if Larry Johnson and Parker were both cut. Parker also could possibly pass Johnson with a strong preseason effort this weekend.

Time to nudge Portis up the rankings.