Clinton Portis will visit Dr. James Andrews (1 Viewer)

[redman]

Tendonitis isn't like a broken leg. It wouldn't preclude him from walking, running, or jumping. It just hurts like hell when you run (hard) and cut. Him jumping up and down tells us nothing.

"Jumper's knee" is the most common form of tendinitis actually, so I highly doubt he has that type now.

As a LONG time sufferer of Pateller Tendinitis, which is what he has been diagnosed with, I can tell you that if it was bad at all, there's no way he would be jumping (after standing and cold) in celebration. That's like the one thing you wouldn't even think about. It's a simple "overuse" injury and the only real way to completely get rid of it is rest or "nonuse"....couple that with Portis' obvious distaste for the preseason and I'm not real worried. Also, in the NFL where cortisone shots are given out like candy, I can also vouch that a cortisone shot into the knees before a game would make it virtually pain free.My experience is from 5 straight years of pateller tendinitis resulting from college football and basketball. I would slide down all stair railings on campus because it hurt so bad to walk down stairs. I took every kind of ant-inflammatory daily, including stuff strong enough to need stomach medicine with it to protect the lining of my esophogus (sp?), had to ice before and after EVERYTHING down to half hour shootarounds, but in the end it was just a matter of putting up with the pain. As soon as my career was over, and I wasn't playing every day, it disappeared.Worst case scenario: Portis is in a lot of pain so he's resting it as that is the only way to get rid of it totally, then when game time comes he will ice the hell out of it, get shot up, go play pain free, then ice the hell out of it again and probably not practice until Thursday most weeks.Best case scenario: Portis has exaggerated the pain because he is a vocal proponent to limiting preseason games and doesn't want to play in them to begin with.Finally, count me in the school of "not worried about Betts assuming Portis is healthy".

Thanx for the personal perspective. It seems like every year there is some exaggeration regarding pre-season injuries. I tend to think, like many others, that this is probably a non-issue.

That's my message. When this first came out, I was already thinking "this is the guy who was telling the media last year how there should be half as many preseason games and they are a waste of time and risky for vets"....then when I read about him jumping around on the sideline, I just started chuckling to myself because it's pretty clear what's going on. Now, with this tidbit about the recent postgame interview and him laughing at the background remark.....case closed in my opinion. Maybe that's wishful thinking as a Portis owner...

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[GDogg]

He missed practice again yesterday. He hasn't practiced in more than 2 weeks now.

However, he did return to being a character during Gregg Williams' press conference when he was screwing around. I actually think this is something positive.

 

[H.K.]

He missed practice again yesterday. He hasn't practiced in more than 2 weeks now.However, he did return to being a character during Gregg Williams' press conference when he was screwing around. I actually think this is something positive.

Maybe his next character can be an RB that practices on healthy knees. I bet the DC area would love it!

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I think the recent news, combined with H.K.'s post make Portis being the SOD at his current ADP a lead pipe lock.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

I just traded for Portis so I'm obviously looking at this with a glass-half-full view but from the day I heard he was sitting out with Tendonitis I thought back at last year when he basically told everybody who could hear anything that he thought the entire preseason thing was much more harmful than helpful for veterans (especially ones coming back to the same system). I remember thinking last year, "i bet he comes up with some kind of lame excuse to sit games out".. What would concern me more is how Betts plays out and what kind of carries he will take away.Admittedly I did not follow the Skins much last year and I know little about Betts last year. I went back to look at the numbers and I was shocked to see how productive he was in those last 8 games (almost Faulk-esque) but with that said I believe that is more a testament to the Al Saunders offense than it is to the talent level of Ladell Betts.

During those 8 games Saunders wasn't running the offense. Gibbs had taken control by that point(thus the success in moving the ball on the ground). The truth of the matter is that there's no evidence that the players even know the "Saunders offense"(the exception being Todd Collins). Of course the other side of the coin is that the "Saunders Offense" is IDENTICAL to the Norve Turner offense. The only difference being the terminology. Mike Sellers has been pointing this out since Saunders came to DC.

 

[redman]

I just traded for Portis so I'm obviously looking at this with a glass-half-full view but from the day I heard he was sitting out with Tendonitis I thought back at last year when he basically told everybody who could hear anything that he thought the entire preseason thing was much more harmful than helpful for veterans (especially ones coming back to the same system). I remember thinking last year, "i bet he comes up with some kind of lame excuse to sit games out".. What would concern me more is how Betts plays out and what kind of carries he will take away.Admittedly I did not follow the Skins much last year and I know little about Betts last year. I went back to look at the numbers and I was shocked to see how productive he was in those last 8 games (almost Faulk-esque) but with that said I believe that is more a testament to the Al Saunders offense than it is to the talent level of Ladell Betts.

During those 8 games Saunders wasn't running the offense. Gibbs had taken control by that point(thus the success in moving the ball on the ground). The truth of the matter is that there's no evidence that the players even know the "Saunders offense"(the exception being Todd Collins). Of course the other side of the coin is that the "Saunders Offense" is IDENTICAL to the Norve Turner offense. The only difference being the terminology. Mike Sellers has been pointing this out since Saunders came to DC.

Gibbs, Turner and Saunders all come from the Coryell coaching tree. In fact, most of Gibbs' terminology was identical to Saunders' when Saunders' came on board. Saunders' offense is well known to the offense now. All Gibbs did was ensure that the power running portion of the playbook was being used to establish the offense before the rest of it started getting used. Saunders was using too much short passing early on and that wasn't playing to the team's, and particularly the o-line's, strength.

 

[Clash of the Titans]

does anyone have a report on clinton porchtis for today....i know the washington post usually has reports but i can't figure out how to sign up for the free membership?

 

[CowboyFan]

does anyone have a report on clinton porchtis for today....i know the washington post usually has reports but i can't figure out how to sign up for the free membership?

at the forum cutting off the last 3 letters of your name...

 

[Skinsfansince72]

I just traded for Portis so I'm obviously looking at this with a glass-half-full view but from the day I heard he was sitting out with Tendonitis I thought back at last year when he basically told everybody who could hear anything that he thought the entire preseason thing was much more harmful than helpful for veterans (especially ones coming back to the same system). I remember thinking last year, "i bet he comes up with some kind of lame excuse to sit games out".. What would concern me more is how Betts plays out and what kind of carries he will take away.Admittedly I did not follow the Skins much last year and I know little about Betts last year. I went back to look at the numbers and I was shocked to see how productive he was in those last 8 games (almost Faulk-esque) but with that said I believe that is more a testament to the Al Saunders offense than it is to the talent level of Ladell Betts.

During those 8 games Saunders wasn't running the offense. Gibbs had taken control by that point(thus the success in moving the ball on the ground). The truth of the matter is that there's no evidence that the players even know the "Saunders offense"(the exception being Todd Collins). Of course the other side of the coin is that the "Saunders Offense" is IDENTICAL to the Norve Turner offense. The only difference being the terminology. Mike Sellers has been pointing this out since Saunders came to DC.

Gibbs, Turner and Saunders all come from the Coryell coaching tree. In fact, most of Gibbs' terminology was identical to Saunders' when Saunders' came on board. Saunders' offense is well known to the offense now. All Gibbs did was ensure that the power running portion of the playbook was being used to establish the offense before the rest of it started getting used. Saunders was using too much short passing early on and that wasn't playing to the team's, and particularly the o-line's, strength.

I was watching the scrimmage and the first preseason game. It didn't look to me like anybody other than COllins knew the offense. After watching the other teams play, it looks to me as if the skins O is as bad as most people predicted it would be. Other teams were rolling down the field and scoring(even Joey looked pretty good). For the Skins, it was business as usual. No scoring. Not many yards. Players who looked like they didn't have a clue. Outside of the D, I don't see much to like about them this year. As for the terminology, It not the same as Gibbs. That's why it's taken so long for them to make the transition from Gibbs to saunders. We need to face the fact that this isn't a very good team(nor will it be until they get a GM and stop wasting money on high priced free agents. The team has little to no depth. The good teams DO have depth(n the form of draft picks who aren't making much money). The skins will start to improve when they stop signing free agent London Fletchers and start drafting them. And what on earth was Gibbs thinking only bringing one kicker to camp? Mosely was the MVP of the entire NFL and the very next year there were kickers in camp competing against him. THis year they only have one guy in camp and he's not even that good. I'm telling you that this is one poorly run football team and it's not all Snyders fault. Gibbs has done very little to turn this team around(and, in fact, has made some bad decisions). After 3 years I still see mediocre team that will be lucky to win 7 games. Every team in the Division is better than they are(yes, even the Giants).

 

[Righetti]

interesting insight.. I don't watch a lot of Skins games but I'll have an interest this year (with Portis on my roster).

 

[Meast21]

I just traded for Portis so I'm obviously looking at this with a glass-half-full view but from the day I heard he was sitting out with Tendonitis I thought back at last year when he basically told everybody who could hear anything that he thought the entire preseason thing was much more harmful than helpful for veterans (especially ones coming back to the same system). I remember thinking last year, "i bet he comes up with some kind of lame excuse to sit games out".. What would concern me more is how Betts plays out and what kind of carries he will take away.Admittedly I did not follow the Skins much last year and I know little about Betts last year. I went back to look at the numbers and I was shocked to see how productive he was in those last 8 games (almost Faulk-esque) but with that said I believe that is more a testament to the Al Saunders offense than it is to the talent level of Ladell Betts.

During those 8 games Saunders wasn't running the offense. Gibbs had taken control by that point(thus the success in moving the ball on the ground). The truth of the matter is that there's no evidence that the players even know the "Saunders offense"(the exception being Todd Collins). Of course the other side of the coin is that the "Saunders Offense" is IDENTICAL to the Norve Turner offense. The only difference being the terminology. Mike Sellers has been pointing this out since Saunders came to DC.

Gibbs, Turner and Saunders all come from the Coryell coaching tree. In fact, most of Gibbs' terminology was identical to Saunders' when Saunders' came on board. Saunders' offense is well known to the offense now. All Gibbs did was ensure that the power running portion of the playbook was being used to establish the offense before the rest of it started getting used. Saunders was using too much short passing early on and that wasn't playing to the team's, and particularly the o-line's, strength.

I was watching the scrimmage and the first preseason game. It didn't look to me like anybody other than COllins knew the offense. After watching the other teams play, it looks to me as if the skins O is as bad as most people predicted it would be. Other teams were rolling down the field and scoring(even Joey looked pretty good). For the Skins, it was business as usual. No scoring. Not many yards. Players who looked like they didn't have a clue. Outside of the D, I don't see much to like about them this year. As for the terminology, It not the same as Gibbs. That's why it's taken so long for them to make the transition from Gibbs to saunders. We need to face the fact that this isn't a very good team(nor will it be until they get a GM and stop wasting money on high priced free agents. The team has little to no depth. The good teams DO have depth(n the form of draft picks who aren't making much money). The skins will start to improve when they stop signing free agent London Fletchers and start drafting them. And what on earth was Gibbs thinking only bringing one kicker to camp? Mosely was the MVP of the entire NFL and the very next year there were kickers in camp competing against him. THis year they only have one guy in camp and he's not even that good. I'm telling you that this is one poorly run football team and it's not all Snyders fault. Gibbs has done very little to turn this team around(and, in fact, has made some bad decisions). After 3 years I still see mediocre team that will be lucky to win 7 games. Every team in the Division is better than they are(yes, even the Giants).

First and foremost I do express some concerns with our offense; however, we have seen one scrimmage and one preseason game. At the end of last year they really turned it on and without Portis and Samuels in the lineup it really changes things IMO. Keep in mind Portis is one of the best blocking backs in the league. As for the terminology...it has been expressed many many times that it is the same language...I think early on in the season Saunders was just passing way too much for Gibbs. I mean we had so many three and outs and our defense was just awful to begin with let alone exhausted by the start of the fourth quarter. It's clearly evident when in Campbell's first start against the Bucs we had I think 25 passing plays compared to 19 running plays. Gibbs had enough and off Ladell Betts went. We do need to address depth and I think this year, keeping all our picks, we will attack both the d-line and o-line thoroughly in the draft. As for the London Fletcher bit, did you watch the Titans game? The man was all over the field and Rocky McIntosh was lighting it up as well. As a matter of fact our first team defense looked very very good...who do you think lined them all up? You'd be a fool to not think London Fletcher was our best pickup over the past 4 years...the man has never missed an NFL game and has consistently put up 125 tackles a season (and has gotten better the past two years). Finally drafting H.B Blades, who is of similar size, will only allow him to learn under the tutelage of London. I think so long as we address the o-line and d-line in the draft next year we should be in great shape for the future....thank you Joe Gibbs!