Colston doing drills at practice! (1 Viewer)

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Good thread, ty to everyone that brought in info, definitely what makes these boards great.

now thats some funny ####.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

Meachem a solid WR3 moving forward. Will be interesting if the next few weeks allow him to cement a new place in the offense.

Too many people are so ready to write off WRs before they really develop. It's a difficult position and Payton runs an extremely complex offense. Meachem has the skills and the size. He's gradually learned the NFL game (and the NO offense) the past few years. If he's now in a state where he doesn't have to "think" every play, then he may be about to emerge in a big way.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Limp Ditka]

...looked like a shoulder separation at the time from his reaction.

This stuff gets me every time.

He's laughing about the arm chair doctor's diagnosis.

so much for quitting the day job. Thoughts and prayers

 

[KellysHeroes]

Meachem a solid WR3 moving forward. Will be interesting if the next few weeks allow him to cement a new place in the offense.Too many people are so ready to write off WRs before they really develop. It's a difficult position and Payton runs an extremely complex offense. Meachem has the skills and the size. He's gradually learned the NFL game (and the NO offense) the past few years. If he's now in a state where he doesn't have to "think" every play, then he may be about to emerge in a big way.Just my thoughts.

With Colston nd Moore out (Groin injuries are going to take awhile) Meach has a great chance, Low WR2 in my book.s for Colston, should be back by mid Oct... sucks but atleast it nothing to serious.

 

[az_prof]

This Meachem/Henderson stuff is the same every year, they are both one dimensional guys. I realize that there is a tendency to base things on what happened last night, but I believe that whether Colston is hurt or not, the "other" WR to own is Lance Moore.

Except they're already calling him questionable for a game 9 days away. Meach and Henderson are both worthy starters in most leagues next week if Moore doesn't go, Meach is the long term play IMO. He has the elite measurables that WR1's have, while Henderson is more of a pure speed guy, who somehow made huge improvements in his ability to catch a football over the last couple years. I'd grab either of them as soon as possible, considering the injury situation down in NOLA.

This is how I see it. If Moore plays, I think he is the best guy to own, but all three are worth owning. I am worried that Moore won't play next week: how often does a guy go from "Out" to playing the next week? Usually, there is a transition period. So, I expect Meachem and Henderson to both start week 2, with Arrington playing some too. When Moore does play, he is the featured receiver but either Henderson or Meachem are quite capable of blowing up any given week.

 

[drater]

Meachem a solid WR3 moving forward. Will be interesting if the next few weeks allow him to cement a new place in the offense.Too many people are so ready to write off WRs before they really develop. It's a difficult position and Payton runs an extremely complex offense. Meachem has the skills and the size. He's gradually learned the NFL game (and the NO offense) the past few years. If he's now in a state where he doesn't have to "think" every play, then he may be about to emerge in a big way.Just my thoughts.

I agree. People have short memories, he was approaching dominant status the last half of 2009 (the only time in his career he's been consistently healthy) before taking a step backwards last year with the lingering knee issues.Another factor to consider, even when Moore comes back, from most of the film I've watched, he takes the majority of his snaps from the slot (if this is incorrect, would love to hear from true homer fans, I only follow them because they're one of the most exciting teams to watch) so somebody is going to end up getting increased snaps and targets outside while Colston heals up. Slight bumps everywhere besides Colston is probably the safest call, with the expectation that someone steps up big time. Anybody who follows the Saints probably realizes that figuring out which guy that will be is a total crap shoot.

 

[Proximo]

Meachem a solid WR3 moving forward. Will be interesting if the next few weeks allow him to cement a new place in the offense.Too many people are so ready to write off WRs before they really develop. It's a difficult position and Payton runs an extremely complex offense. Meachem has the skills and the size. He's gradually learned the NFL game (and the NO offense) the past few years. If he's now in a state where he doesn't have to "think" every play, then he may be about to emerge in a big way.Just my thoughts.

I agree. People have short memories, he was approaching dominant status the last half of 2009 (the only time in his career he's been consistently healthy) before taking a step backwards last year with the lingering knee issues.Another factor to consider, even when Moore comes back, from most of the film I've watched, he takes the majority of his snaps from the slot (if this is incorrect, would love to hear from true homer fans, I only follow them because they're one of the most exciting teams to watch) so somebody is going to end up getting increased snaps and targets outside while Colston heals up. Slight bumps everywhere besides Colston is probably the safest call, with the expectation that someone steps up big time. Anybody who follows the Saints probably realizes that figuring out which guy that will be is a total crap shoot.

I'm a homer and from what I can recall, he has been used in the slot quite a bit. I think it was usually Colston and Devery on the outside but I'm not 100% sure on that. That being said, Lance lines up on the outside down by the goal line as seen in the Super Bowl two point conversion.

 

[Bri]

Meachem has taken too long to develop but I think he's arriving.

Looks like Arrington will finally play. I'm curious about him

 

[Funkley]

Bump Finley Graham.

 

[nysportsfan]

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I'm no Dr, but it seems that if the diagnosis is a broken collarbone he's gonna be out longer than 4 weeks...

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

quick internet search seems to agree.

Outcome

Whether your treatment involves surgery or not, it can take several months for your collarbone to heal. It may take longer in diabetics or people who smoke or chew tobacco.

Most people return to regular activities within 3 months of their injury. Your doctor will tell you when your injury is stable enough to do so. Returning to regular activities or lifting with your arm before your doctor advises may cause your fracture fragments to move or your hardware to break. This may require you to start your treatment from the beginning.

Once your fracture has completely healed, you can safely return to sports activities.

How long does a broken collarbone take to heal?

The younger you are when you break your clavicle, the less time it takes for the fracture to heal. Children will heal a broken bone in 3 to 4 weeks, teenagers will need 6 to 8 weeks before the broken clavicle completely heals, and adults may take up to four months. During this period of time, it is important that you make sure that your shoulder, elbow, wrist and hand does not get stiff. It always seems as if it takes forever for a broken bone to heal, but rest assured that the odds are in your favor. More than ninety-five percent of clavicle fractures will eventually heal on their own, without requiring surgery.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I'm no Dr, but it seems that if the diagnosis is a broken collarbone he's gonna be out longer than 4 weeks...

More like 6 which is half a season. I can see folks cutting him in redrafts.

 

[FantasyTrader]

I'm no Dr, but it seems that if the diagnosis is a broken collarbone he's gonna be out longer than 4 weeks...

I recall a few other broken collarbones where basically it was a foregone conclusion that was it for the season (Romo being the most recent example). Then again, Moore isn't a QB so maybe the timetable is much different for a WR. Still wouldn't be surprised if this ended up being longer than a month.

 

[Reepicheep]

I'm no Dr, but it seems that if the diagnosis is a broken collarbone he's gonna be out longer than 4 weeks...

More like 6 which is half a season. I can see folks cutting him in redrafts.

I'm still in the denial stage.

 

[Bri]

I'm no Dr, but it seems that if the diagnosis is a broken collarbone he's gonna be out longer than 4 weeks...

I recall a few other broken collarbones where basically it was a foregone conclusion that was it for the season (Romo being the most recent example). Then again, Moore isn't a QB so maybe the timetable is much different for a WR. Still wouldn't be surprised if this ended up being longer than a month.

IIRC this just messed up Charles Rogers career. He never seemed to get right. I think he may have broken it a second time too.I understand Rogers' to be unusual and don't want to create panic in Colston FF owners, so maybe we can call it worst case scenario.

 

[Bri]

I'm no Dr, but it seems that if the diagnosis is a broken collarbone he's gonna be out longer than 4 weeks...

More like 6 which is half a season. I can see folks cutting him in redrafts.

I'm still in the denial stage.

I drafted Manning late. This Nile river is deep here.I'm a little fearful of Joe sending a breaking news "CJ tears ACL" email on Sunday.

 

[jon_mx]

I'm no Dr, but it seems that if the diagnosis is a broken collarbone he's gonna be out longer than 4 weeks...

More like 6 which is half a season. I can see folks cutting him in redrafts.

Pizza math?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I'm no Dr, but it seems that if the diagnosis is a broken collarbone he's gonna be out longer than 4 weeks...

I recall a few other broken collarbones where basically it was a foregone conclusion that was it for the season (Romo being the most recent example). Then again, Moore isn't a QB so maybe the timetable is much different for a WR. Still wouldn't be surprised if this ended up being longer than a month.

pretty much ended charles rogers career. He kept breaking it once he did it.

 

[DoubleG]

Actually I concur with the diagnosis. I saw Colston's facial expression and body language and it was identical to Mel Gibson's after he escapes from a straight jacket.

Okay. Good - so we can finally stop trying to judge injury by facial expression and body language. It's about damn time.Sincerely,Jay Cutler

 

[Ministry of Pain]

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Marques Colston's broken collarbone will sideline him for "probably longer" than four weeks.



Saints have no bye week until 11.



I would advise releasing Colston while you can still grab guys before the season starts on the waiver wire. Colston was probably a round 5 or 6 pick, cut your losses and move on. Dynasty owners are probably fine long term; I wouldn't start comparing Charles Rogers to Colston.



Colston was likely a WR2/3 so you can recover form that but the reality is you need to "get over it" and move forward.

 

[Silverstreak]

reading the injury is feared to be significant. If Colston goes down for any period of time, who is the pickup, Henderson or Meachem. Would seem to me Meachem played a lot in double TE sets as the only WR on the field and he has the closest size to Colston and can be a burner. Not convinced Henderson's big night is anything more than a mirrage, it happens every year with him.I'm leaning Meachem, anyone agree?

I agree...Meachem should be the play. Henderson keeps the spot warm for LM's return is about all I see from him. Hendo's been such a dissapointment, ala Buster Davis...

 

[Parmcat]

I think the biggest bump here is to Sproles. He looked awesome, and will get more looks on screens and dumps.....

 

[otis68]

reading the injury is feared to be significant. If Colston goes down for any period of time, who is the pickup, Henderson or Meachem. Would seem to me Meachem played a lot in double TE sets as the only WR on the field and he has the closest size to Colston and can be a burner. Not convinced Henderson's big night is anything more than a mirrage, it happens every year with him.I'm leaning Meachem, anyone agree?

I agree...Meachem should be the play. Henderson keeps the spot warm for LM's return is about all I see from him. Hendo's been such a dissapointment, ala Buster Davis...

You realize that Lance Moore and Hendo don't play the same position?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Marques Colston's broken collarbone will sideline him for "probably longer" than four weeks.



Saints have no bye week until 11.



I would advise releasing Colston while you can still grab guys before the season starts on the waiver wire. Colston was probably a round 5 or 6 pick, cut your losses and move on. Dynasty owners are probably fine long term; I wouldn't start comparing Charles Rogers to Colston.



Colston was likely a WR2/3 so you can recover form that but the reality is you need to "get over it" and move forward.

Im not comparing them as players. But the injury is exactly the same. Broken calvicle. I think 4 weeks is a pipe dream too.

 

[drater]

I was watching this game again last night, sort of looked like he injured it on the drive before the final drive, a couple plays before Graham's TD. He went down hard on that play, straight to the shoulder and didn't bounce up. If so, and he came back in for the final drive to make another big catch, el grande huevos.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

reading the injury is feared to be significant. If Colston goes down for any period of time, who is the pickup, Henderson or Meachem. Would seem to me Meachem played a lot in double TE sets as the only WR on the field and he has the closest size to Colston and can be a burner. Not convinced Henderson's big night is anything more than a mirrage, it happens every year with him.I'm leaning Meachem, anyone agree?

I agree...Meachem should be the play. Henderson keeps the spot warm for LM's return is about all I see from him. Hendo's been such a dissapointment, ala Buster Davis...

You realize that Lance Moore and Hendo don't play the same position?

They aren't both WRs?

 

[Bri]

who is the adrian arrington bloom keeps pimpin?

Span of 4 years I think so forgive me if I'm off a bit.The year after Colston was the 7th round steal of the draft, Arrington was picked in the 7th or a UDFA. He rocked in everything before the season and everyone was shaking their heads could the Saints have struck gold twice, nah Arrington can't be great too...etc. He got hurt. He developed a poor work ethic or attendance and got hurt again. Over and over and over.Payton lost some love over time, but still seems to have a soft spot for Arrington. Arrington is one of the rare players that actually could no longer be on the PS because he's been in the league so long the rules (about) say it's time to play.If you ever played sports, you probably know what a practice player is. Arrington fits that to a tee. He can do just about whatever ya need a WR to do and has the skills, size, and talent to do it. He hasn't in an NFL game with one exception. Late last year, he had 7 catches for 79 yards in a game. WOW Impressive for a game, but..that's also his career total of a 3-4 year career-79 yards.Victor Cruz, Taye or Tye Biddle...there's been a few like Arrington over the years and none has amounted to much of anything in the regular season.

 

[Instinctive]

This can only be good news for Graham owners.

 

[Reepicheep]

who is the adrian arrington bloom keeps pimpin?

Span of 4 years I think so forgive me if I'm off a bit.The year after Colston was the 7th round steal of the draft, Arrington was picked in the 7th or a UDFA. He rocked in everything before the season and everyone was shaking their heads could the Saints have struck gold twice, nah Arrington can't be great too...etc. He got hurt. He developed a poor work ethic or attendance and got hurt again. Over and over and over.Payton lost some love over time, but still seems to have a soft spot for Arrington. Arrington is one of the rare players that actually could no longer be on the PS because he's been in the league so long the rules (about) say it's time to play.If you ever played sports, you probably know what a practice player is. Arrington fits that to a tee. He can do just about whatever ya need a WR to do and has the skills, size, and talent to do it. He hasn't in an NFL game with one exception. Late last year, he had 7 catches for 79 yards in a game. WOW Impressive for a game, but..that's also his career total of a 3-4 year career-79 yards.Victor Cruz, Taye or Tye Biddle...there's been a few like Arrington over the years and none has amounted to much of anything in the regular season.

Great info, thanks.

 

[NeverEnough]

Anyone in redraft dropping Moore yet?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Anyone in redraft dropping Moore yet?

I'm going to hold him a couple more weeks but if he doesn't practice again this week then something is worse than we thought.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

...looked like a shoulder separation at the time from his reaction.

This stuff gets me every time.

The NFL can save lots of money on doctors by following this forum. Who needs xrays?

My Diagnoses is Collar bone, he came up leaning sideways like Romo did, but i'm not a doctor I just get paid like one.

Not a doctor, didn't stay in a Holiday Inn, but have broken my collarbone. If Colston did do that, it would have been a tremendous feat to still be onfield through a couple of plays. Colston would have had a hard time running at speed, as it's hard to do so without pumping your arms -- we would have seen Colston's route running affected a little more if it was a broken collarbone.That said, I have a high pain threshold, but likley an NFL receiver has a much higher one, so who knows. My 2 centavos.

I definitely should have stayed at a Holiday Inn....

 

[az_prof]

I'm no Dr, but it seems that if the diagnosis is a broken collarbone he's gonna be out longer than 4 weeks...

I recall a few other broken collarbones where basically it was a foregone conclusion that was it for the season (Romo being the most recent example). Then again, Moore isn't a QB so maybe the timetable is much different for a WR. Still wouldn't be surprised if this ended up being longer than a month.

pretty much ended charles rogers career. He kept breaking it once he did it.

True. I had forgotten about that.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Mike Triplett tweets: "Saints Payton said Marques Colston did a lot of work on practice field today, aside from team drills. Says he's on schedule, if not ahead."

 

[gbill2004]

Mike Triplett tweets: "Saints Payton said Marques Colston did a lot of work on practice field today, aside from team drills. Says he's on schedule, if not ahead."

Woohoo!!!

 

[adrenaline]

Break a leg!

 

[cubbie5150]

Mike Triplett tweets: "Saints Payton said Marques Colston did a lot of work on practice field today, aside from team drills. Says he's on schedule, if not ahead."

This somehow reminds me of Payton's proclamations last year of Pierre Thomas being "really close" to returning, week after week...

 

[misc]

Is he playing Sunday? I have Meachem starting and he's my best flex!

 

[stp-d]

Um, if its a broken collarbone, no way he is back this soon. Week 5 at the earliest. Take a photo