Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
GB -3 at CHI
PIT - 3.5 vs NYJ
PIT - 3.5 vs NYJ
So do the Bills.I prefer the championship games to the super bowl. There, I said it.
I'd take both favorites there.Which means I'll take Chi over NYJ in the bowl.GB -3 at CHIPIT - 3.5 vs NYJ
So do the Bills.I prefer the championship games to the super bowl. There, I said it.
I get the joke and all, but as a Bills fan, let me say that losing Super Bowls every year was heaven compared to the past decade of ineptitude. Until your team has been in the toilet for a prolonged period, it's easy to lose perspective.So do the Bills.I prefer the championship games to the super bowl. There, I said it.
That 4 year run may never be duplicated. It was amazing and a crime that they didn't win at least 1 of them. Norwood - I'm looking at you.I get the joke and all, but as a Bills fan, let me say that losing Super Bowls every year was heaven compared to the past decade of ineptitude. Until your team has been in the toilet for a prolonged period, it's easy to lose perspective.So do the Bills.I prefer the championship games to the super bowl. There, I said it.
They were underdogs vs. Philly. And Atlanta.The pack with three straight road playoff games, and not underdogs for any of them. Has that ever happened before?
I was at that game. From my side view it looked like he made it. I thought "Wow, they won on a last-second field-goal." Then the Giants start celebrating and I realize he missed it. Oops.Grid71 said:That 4 year run may never be duplicated. It was amazing and a crime that they didn't win at least 1 of them. Norwood - I'm looking at you.IvanKaramazov said:I get the joke and all, but as a Bills fan, let me say that losing Super Bowls every year was heaven compared to the past decade of ineptitude. Until your team has been in the toilet for a prolonged period, it's easy to lose perspective.Grid71 said:So do the Bills.otello said:I prefer the championship games to the super bowl. There, I said it.
Okay, but besides them his statement is true...They were underdogs vs. Philly. And Atlanta.The pack with three straight road playoff games, and not underdogs for any of them. Has that ever happened before?
They were underdogs vs. Philly. And Atlanta.The pack with three straight road playoff games, and not underdogs for any of them. Has that ever happened before?
Wow! You had the improbability drive set to max that day.Seriously though, that rush is awesome and I'm glad you got to feel it. The first 3 seconds are the best part anyhow.I was at that game. From my side view it looked like he made it. I thought "Wow, they won on a last-second field-goal." Then the Giants start celebrating and I realize he missed it. Oops.Grid71 said:That 4 year run may never be duplicated. It was amazing and a crime that they didn't win at least 1 of them. Norwood - I'm looking at you.IvanKaramazov said:I get the joke and all, but as a Bills fan, let me say that losing Super Bowls every year was heaven compared to the past decade of ineptitude. Until your team has been in the toilet for a prolonged period, it's easy to lose perspective.Grid71 said:So do the Bills.otello said:I prefer the championship games to the super bowl. There, I said it.
I might be the only person on the planet who has lived in an alternate reality where the Buffalo Bills won a Super Bowl. It was maybe three seconds, but I know what that strange, uninhabited world is like.
That gb number is crazyFrom Sportsbetting.com: Chicago Bears 4/1 New York Jets 3/1 Pittsburgh Steelers 2/1 Green Bay Packers 11/10
Yep. After the games, I was looking forward to getting a nice number with GB. It didn't happen. Future Super Bowl line is AFC-1.That gb number is crazyFrom Sportsbetting.com: Chicago Bears 4/1 New York Jets 3/1 Pittsburgh Steelers 2/1 Green Bay Packers 11/10
Sportsbook has both games at -3. Bets have been placed.Evilgrin 72 said:GB -3 at CHIPIT - 3.5 vs NYJ
-3 (-130) for both. If you like the dogs, Sportsbetting has both at +3.5 (-110).Sportsbook has both games at -3. Bets have been placed.Evilgrin 72 said:GB -3 at CHIPIT - 3.5 vs NYJ
I'm not a Buffalo fan or a New York fan. Just had an opportunity to go to a Super Bowl. So it wasn't even something special for me. Just "Oh, that's interesting." I had no idea I was going on that journey alone, though. I felt bad they never won one, but four straight Super Bowls is amazing.Wow! You had the improbability drive set to max that day.Seriously though, that rush is awesome and I'm glad you got to feel it. The first 3 seconds are the best part anyhow.
I know nothing about betting, lines, etc., but I find it interesting that GB is the favorite, by far, to win the SB, yet the AFC and NFC championship games are only a 3 point spread each. Is that because GB is favored over the home team (so really like a 6 point spread due to the fact that the home team usually gets 3 more points)?From Sportsbetting.com: Chicago Bears 4/1 New York Jets 3/1 Pittsburgh Steelers 2/1 Green Bay Packers 11/10
The biggest reason is probably because GB is probably thought to have the easiest route to the big game. Any of the other three teams would probably be the Super Bowl favorite if they were playing Chicago. This is just based on public perception, BTW, no disrespect to Chicago.I know nothing about betting, lines, etc., but I find it interesting that GB is the favorite, by far, to win the SB, yet the AFC and NFC championship games are only a 3 point spread each. Is that because GB is favored over the home team (so really like a 6 point spread due to the fact that the home team usually gets 3 more points)?From Sportsbetting.com: Chicago Bears 4/1 New York Jets 3/1 Pittsburgh Steelers 2/1 Green Bay Packers 11/10
They were underdogs vs. Philly. And Atlanta.The pack with three straight road playoff games, and not underdogs for any of them. Has that ever happened before?
IvanKaramazov said:I'd take both favorites there.Which means I'll take Chi over NYJ in the bowl.Evilgrin 72 said:GB -3 at CHIPIT - 3.5 vs NYJ
Us Pirates fans share your pain. I would be thrilled if the Pirates could post a winning record and break 18 years of losing. Even .500 would be a welcome break.Back on subject I don't think I would touch either of those games.IvanKaramazov said:I get the joke and all, but as a Bills fan, let me say that losing Super Bowls every year was heaven compared to the past decade of ineptitude. Until your team has been in the toilet for a prolonged period, it's easy to lose perspective.Grid71 said:So do the Bills.otello said:I prefer the championship games to the super bowl. There, I said it.
Vegas doesn't take baths on the NFL (or anything, actually). I can assure you of that.Those are interesting lines. I would pound the Steelers and Pack at that line, and I think most people will. Vegas might take a bath on this one.
Thanks.My early gut feeling is to take the Jets and the points. Other than that, not sure I like anything else.44 for the Bears - Packers38.5 for the Steelers - Jets
I'm making Chicago +3 my lock.GB wins 17- 16I'm making GB -3 my lock of the new millennium.
Compensating for a small unit eh.All the Green Bay love has me skittish. I wouldn't be shocked to see da Bears win.Steelers -3.5 is probably what I'd do if you had a gun to my head...but I don't love either game.I would however do a 6pt 3 way teaser for 10,000 unitsJets +9.5Bears +9Steelers / Jets O/U - OVER 32.5
Yes and yes.I'm totally clueless on point spreads but want to lay some money down on the Super Bowl and trying to be somewhat educated before that happens. (Going to Vegas for the first week of Feb.) If a team is -3 or -whatever, do they need to win by 4 for example for that bet to be considered a win? Or if you bet on the underdog, does that mean that 3 points get added to their final score so if they lose by 2, you still get a WIN because the +3 would have them winning by 1?
On a straight bet, just betting money on a game, there is a 10 percent 'vig' or 'juice' on the bet. You bet 110 to win 100, 220 to win 200, etc. For a game like the Super Bowl, there will also be a sheet of prop bets on the game. Prop bets, or proposition bets, are bets on other stuff. Over/Under on number of rushing yards player X gets, or who scores the first TD, etc. They are considered sucker bets, but if you want to have fun with it, and want to throw some 50 dollar bets on weird stuff, it can be a lot of fun.Also, how do the pay-outs work for stuff like this?Sorry for the totally n00b questions, just something I'm starting to take an interest in and I don't want to look completely stupid when I'm down in Vegas.
Yes and yes.I'm totally clueless on point spreads but want to lay some money down on the Super Bowl and trying to be somewhat educated before that happens. (Going to Vegas for the first week of Feb.) If a team is -3 or -whatever, do they need to win by 4 for example for that bet to be considered a win? Or if you bet on the underdog, does that mean that 3 points get added to their final score so if they lose by 2, you still get a WIN because the +3 would have them winning by 1?On a straight bet, just betting money on a game, there is a 10 percent 'vig' or 'juice' on the bet. You bet 110 to win 100, 220 to win 200, etc. For a game like the Super Bowl, there will also be a sheet of prop bets on the game. Prop bets, or proposition bets, are bets on other stuff. Over/Under on number of rushing yards player X gets, or who scores the first TD, etc. They are considered sucker bets, but if you want to have fun with it, and want to throw some 50 dollar bets on weird stuff, it can be a lot of fun.Also, how do the pay-outs work for stuff like this?
Sorry for the totally n00b questions, just something I'm starting to take an interest in and I don't want to look completely stupid when I'm down in Vegas.
Really? Some of the best value can be found on bizarre prop bets where the book doesn't pay enough attention as it should.For a game like the Super Bowl, there will also be a sheet of prop bets on the game. Prop bets, or proposition bets, are bets on other stuff. Over/Under on number of rushing yards player X gets, or who scores the first TD, etc. They are considered sucker bets, but if you want to have fun with it, and want to throw some 50 dollar bets on weird stuff, it can be a lot of fun.
A 2 point cover is a lock. OK.I'm making Chicago +3 my lock.GB wins 17- 16I'm making GB -3 my lock of the new millennium.
Agreed, but you have to dig deep and do your homework. Last week, James Jones O/U for receiving yards was 27.5. 27.5??!!?? I saw that and thought he had to be a LOCK to go over (and he did, way over). Also took Brady over 260.5 passing yards, Mike Williams over 52.5 receiving yards, Forte over 75.5 rushing yards, and Forte over 34.5 receiving yards. Hit on all but Mike Williams, who played like a complete turd. The point is, I concur with the earlier poster that there are great values here on occasion, and they are really fun to have in the course of a game.Really? Some of the best value can be found on bizarre prop bets where the book doesn't pay enough attention as it should.For a game like the Super Bowl, there will also be a sheet of prop bets on the game. Prop bets, or proposition bets, are bets on other stuff. Over/Under on number of rushing yards player X gets, or who scores the first TD, etc. They are considered sucker bets, but if you want to have fun with it, and want to throw some 50 dollar bets on weird stuff, it can be a lot of fun.
+10.5 was ridiculous for Seattle to be giving up at home, and +3.5 at home for the Bears is nearly as ridiculous. They're a good team, playing a championship game at home. Green Bay might be better, but not that much better. It should be a pick 'em line.