why what? Goodie is the commissioner and he decided on 5 games. Everything else was speculative.So, if true, does that mean he can't practice with the Steelers over the team's bye week (week 5) because he isn't off suspension yet? I was always thinking 4 games and then he'd be able to practice over the bye week and be ready to go week 6. But, if he can't practice, until after the 5th game then that all goes out the window. Also, I wonder why the suspension only went down 1 game?
I understand that he has the discretion. However, Goodell has always been open to reducing it to 4 games. If he decides on 5, there is some reason why he didn't want to give Ben a full reduction to 4 games. So, if he does get reduced to 5 games, it would be interesting to know why Goodell only gave him a 1 game reduction. There would have to be some concern by him about how Ben has progressed since his suspension. (i.e. hasn't hit all of the desired criteria of getting a 2 game reduction). I guess we'll find out for sure soon since he is meeting with Ben on Friday.why what? Goodie is the commissioner and he decided on 5 games. Everything else was speculative.So, if true, does that mean he can't practice with the Steelers over the team's bye week (week 5) because he isn't off suspension yet? I was always thinking 4 games and then he'd be able to practice over the bye week and be ready to go week 6. But, if he can't practice, until after the 5th game then that all goes out the window. Also, I wonder why the suspension only went down 1 game?
No, he never said he was open to a reduction to 4 games. Goodie never shows his hand. You heard the 4 games from beat writers, espn types and places like this message board. it was always speculation, like in the mold of brandon marshall last year.I understand that he has the discretion. However, Goodell has always been open to reducing it to 4 games. If he decides on 5, there is some reason why he didn't want to give Ben a full reduction to 4 games. So, if he does get reduced to 5 games, it would be interesting to know why Goodell only gave him a 1 game reduction. There would have to be some concern by him about how Ben has progressed since his suspension. (i.e. hasn't hit all of the desired criteria of getting a 2 game reduction). I guess we'll find out for sure soon since he is meeting with Ben on Friday.why what? Goodie is the commissioner and he decided on 5 games. Everything else was speculative.So, if true, does that mean he can't practice with the Steelers over the team's bye week (week 5) because he isn't off suspension yet? I was always thinking 4 games and then he'd be able to practice over the bye week and be ready to go week 6. But, if he can't practice, until after the 5th game then that all goes out the window. Also, I wonder why the suspension only went down 1 game?
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I know many Steeler fans love their QB, but I find Ben's behavior with women more disturbing than fights in bars and strip clubs, even though he has never been charged with rape.Tomlin just said he has heard absolutely nothing new regarding the suspension. There has been so much misinformation this preseason that I'll believe it when I hear it from Goodell. That said I think a guy never charged with a crime getting more than 4 games is excessive when there are other guys in the league getting into fights at bars & strip clubs and not getting suspended at all.
I don't know what really happened between Ben and those women, but he hasn't been convicted of any crime. I guess I could hate him and call him a rapist based on circumstantial evidence that wasn't strong enough to file charges, but I'd rather just admit I don't know what happened and probably never will and leave it at that. He may be a rapist... but he may not be. Not a Steeler fan but I enjoy watching him play - he's a great QB.Steelers fans will once again cheer for this rapist and the team he represents as soon as he's back in the lineup. Disgusting.![]()
I don't know what really happened between Ben and those women, but he hasn't been convicted of any crime. I guess I could hate him and call him a rapist based on circumstantial evidence that wasn't strong enough to file charges, but I'd rather just admit I don't know what happened and probably never will and leave it at that. He may be a rapist... but he may not be. Not a Steeler fan but I enjoy watching him play - he's a great QB.Steelers fans will once again cheer for this rapist and the team he represents as soon as he's back in the lineup. Disgusting.![]()
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As a Steeler fan, all I know is what I see on TV and read. I don't know the guy. If I thought he were truly a rapist, I could never root for him, no matter how much he apologized for it. To me, rape, murder, child abuse and wife abuse are beyond my ability to forgive.But my impression this whole time has been that Big Ben is not a rapist, he is simply a social idiot. I suspect that because so many women have thrown themselves at him he thinks that is the status quo. He has behaved like a jerk, and incredibly immature. For that I'm willing to forgive him. Unless I learn differently.Steelers fans will once again cheer for this rapist and the team he represents as soon as he's back in the lineup. Disgusting.![]()
Yes we will be rooting for him just like you root for Belicheat and his womanizing sinner ways and the same way Ravens fans root for Ray Lewis and Donte Stallworth and on and on around the league. If you are looking for a moral compass from athletes than you will be sadly misled.Steelers fans will once again cheer for this rapist and the team he represents as soon as he's back in the lineup. Disgusting.![]()
Now that Judge Adebisi has convicted Big Ben of rape I have changed my mind and am in favor of locking Roethlisberger up for 20 years. I have no idea why we bother with the US judicial system when we have legal wizards like Adebisi around that know exactly what happened despite not being there, not speaking to anyone that was, and not having examined any physical and medical evidence in the case.Steelers fans will once again cheer for this rapist and the team he represents as soon as he's back in the lineup. Disgusting.![]()
Just as you give him a complete pass no matter what happend, others give him no quarter at all. The truth is somewhere in the middle. He's probably not worthy of the free pass you give him, nor is he probably a serial rapist. He's somewhere between those extremes.Now that Judge Adebisi has convicted Big Ben of rape I have changed my mind and am in favor of locking Roethlisberger up for 20 years. I have no idea why we bother with the US judicial system when we have legal wizards like Adebisi around that know exactly what happened despite not being there, not speaking to anyone that was, and not having examined any physical and medical evidence in the case.Steelers fans will once again cheer for this rapist and the team he represents as soon as he's back in the lineup. Disgusting.![]()
Aren't you charming. You probably have as much respect for women as Ben.steelcityman said:Ben pulled out his hang down, the chic finished him off, and then got upset that he didnt show her more appreciation.get over it.
You have to be pretty damn misogynistic to offend me. Congrats, steelcityman!Aren't you charming. You probably have as much respect for women as Ben.steelcityman said:Ben pulled out his hang down, the chic finished him off, and then got upset that he didnt show her more appreciation.get over it.
Well said. Unfortunately the Shark Pool tends not to tolerate shades of gray.Just as you give him a complete pass no matter what happend, others give him no quarter at all. The truth is somewhere in the middle. He's probably not worthy of the free pass you give him, nor is he probably a serial rapist. He's somewhere between those extremes.Now that Judge Adebisi has convicted Big Ben of rape I have changed my mind and am in favor of locking Roethlisberger up for 20 years. I have no idea why we bother with the US judicial system when we have legal wizards like Adebisi around that know exactly what happened despite not being there, not speaking to anyone that was, and not having examined any physical and medical evidence in the case.Steelers fans will once again cheer for this rapist and the team he represents as soon as he's back in the lineup. Disgusting.![]()
If you would look back on my posts during the investigation I didn't give him a free pass. I was critical of his behavior but I think calling him a rapist when the facts in the case led to no charges being filed and the DA stating there isn't enough evidence for probable cause is a low-blow. Ben has put himself in some bad situations so I suppose he has a few shots coming but I don't think Steelers fans deserve to take the heat.Just as you give him a complete pass no matter what happend, others give him no quarter at all. The truth is somewhere in the middle. He's probably not worthy of the free pass you give him, nor is he probably a serial rapist. He's somewhere between those extremes.Now that Judge Adebisi has convicted Big Ben of rape I have changed my mind and am in favor of locking Roethlisberger up for 20 years. I have no idea why we bother with the US judicial system when we have legal wizards like Adebisi around that know exactly what happened despite not being there, not speaking to anyone that was, and not having examined any physical and medical evidence in the case.Steelers fans will once again cheer for this rapist and the team he represents as soon as he's back in the lineup. Disgusting.![]()
I don't get your post.You have to be pretty damn misogynistic to offend me. Congrats, steelcityman!Aren't you charming. You probably have as much respect for women as Ben.steelcityman said:Ben pulled out his hang down, the chic finished him off, and then got upset that he didnt show her more appreciation.get over it.
Why wouldn't we cheer for the team he represents? I'm not going to be disloyal to a team that I grew up loving just because of something that ONE guy allegedly did. I'm sure you can't understand that being a fan of a squeaky clean organization such as the Pats though.............Steelers fans will once again cheer for this rapist and the team he represents as soon as he's back in the lineup. Disgusting.![]()