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Haha, I had to check my list because my home zip code is similar to both.Check to see if you put 90210. I make that mistake a lot.I had this as my #47 (24 points).
Haha, I had to check my list because my home zip code is similar to both.Check to see if you put 90210. I make that mistake a lot.I had this as my #47 (24 points).
This is a great breakdown of the LP. Or, at least, you see it the same way I do - which may be worrying to you22. What's Going On – Marvin Gaye (652 points)
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What's Going On is the eleventh studio album by the American soul singer Marvin Gaye. It was released on May 21, 1971, by the Motown Records subsidiary label Tamla. Recorded between 1970 and 1971 in sessions at Hitsville U.S.A., Golden World, United Sound Studios in Detroit, and at The Sound Factory in West Hollywood, California, it was Gaye's first album to credit him as producer and to credit Motown's in-house session musicians, known as the Funk Brothers.
What's Going On is a concept album with most of its songs segueing into the next and has been categorized as a song cycle. The narrative established by the songs is told from the point of view of a Vietnam veteran returning to his home country to witness hatred, suffering, and injustice. Gaye's introspective lyrics explore themes of drug abuse, poverty, and the Vietnam War. He has also been credited with promoting awareness of ecological issues before the public outcry over them had become prominent ("Mercy Mercy Me").
I was writing and thought I'd come up with something pretty good but don't want to embarrass myself too badly. What's Going On is usually #1 and the Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols is usually #2 and then we scramble from there. It dropped three (two? I never know how to do that) spots to #4, but I wouldn't let it fall out of my top five. For the uninitiated, this album was a difficult one for Gaye to get out. He had to fight Motown to release it and was going through very difficult time, as was America. There's a Detroit version and a Los Angeles version (the final one that was released). I could go on more about the details but I wanted to talk about whether it is a "concept" album like Wikipedia states. Here's what I came up with. Humbly submitted.
Is it a concept album?
I wouldn't call it a concept album in the way we normally understand concept albums. I'd say it's definitely a snapshot of what Marvin Gaye thought of a very turbulent time in America. It has no creative narrative that ties the songs together, really. But you could call it a reality-based concept album. It's his story about his experiences, which is more autobiographical than high-concept storytelling. It's his own observations/stories/pleas and it lets the listener know what's going on in his world—what's going on where he's living, and it delves into why the things he's seeing are the way they are.
It is one of those records that is subtly refusing colorblindness unlike most of Motown's releases. But it's not identity politics in the way we think of it. It skips the potential for castigations or sermonizing and refuses the easy distance of unique and isolated experience in favor of community and transcendence—if only we would come together as a society, he laments. What are we doing to each other? He doesn't target anybody and his disappointment is diffused throughout the populace. He doesn't name names, and he doesn't have to. We already know, and he knows we know. It's the rare feat that Marvin Gaye pulls off—he manages to tell a particularist story and make it universal somehow.
I mean, I know he's not calling me brother, but the hopes he has are directed at all the listeners he must have envisioned in his mind, and he doesn't claim imprisonment nor does he lock the gates to the place he invites you—there are no walls built preventing you from congregating. But it's honest and unflinching. If the autobiography is to be told, then he must discuss how society writ large treats him, his family, and his friends because of their station in life and their immutable characteristics. That's undeniably part of his story.
Oh, the track I might go with that isn't "What's Going On" or "Mercy Mercy Me" (also probably my #1 song since I've been twenty-one or so, which is how long I've been on this trip for what reason I do not know) is "Inner City Blues," which is R&B at its finest.
I think it's safe to say the Stones get shut out of the Top 20.![]()
Excel nerd guess: one was a number and one was text.Haha, I had to check my list because my home zip code is similar to both.Check to see if you put 90210. I make that mistake a lot.I had this as my #47 (24 points).
You share that opinion with the late wikkidpissah, who likened Lee's voice to a dentist drill.Cosmopolitan Eephus and metalhead Lambskin agree on one thing: hatred of Rush. I love how this board brings people together.I sure hope soIs that it for Rush? Asking for a friend.![]()
To be fair it’s more that I hate Geddy Lees vocals. I actually wanted to go see Primus do A Farewell To Kings a few years back but couldn’t convince anyone else go go
Also think they’re very talented and influential so i respect them just don’t care for them as an overall package
I think we'll go with Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler) for the playlist.This is a great breakdown of the LP. Or, at least, you see it the same way I do - which may be worrying to you22. What's Going On – Marvin Gaye (652 points)
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@Ilov80s #24
@Eephus #34
@krista4 #35
@jwb #50
@higgins #61
What's Going On is the eleventh studio album by the American soul singer Marvin Gaye. It was released on May 21, 1971, by the Motown Records subsidiary label Tamla. Recorded between 1970 and 1971 in sessions at Hitsville U.S.A., Golden World, United Sound Studios in Detroit, and at The Sound Factory in West Hollywood, California, it was Gaye's first album to credit him as producer and to credit Motown's in-house session musicians, known as the Funk Brothers.
What's Going On is a concept album with most of its songs segueing into the next and has been categorized as a song cycle. The narrative established by the songs is told from the point of view of a Vietnam veteran returning to his home country to witness hatred, suffering, and injustice. Gaye's introspective lyrics explore themes of drug abuse, poverty, and the Vietnam War. He has also been credited with promoting awareness of ecological issues before the public outcry over them had become prominent ("Mercy Mercy Me").
I was writing and thought I'd come up with something pretty good but don't want to embarrass myself too badly. What's Going On is usually #1 and the Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols is usually #2 and then we scramble from there. It dropped three (two? I never know how to do that) spots to #4, but I wouldn't let it fall out of my top five. For the uninitiated, this album was a difficult one for Gaye to get out. He had to fight Motown to release it and was going through very difficult time, as was America. There's a Detroit version and a Los Angeles version (the final one that was released). I could go on more about the details but I wanted to talk about whether it is a "concept" album like Wikipedia states. Here's what I came up with. Humbly submitted.
Is it a concept album?
I wouldn't call it a concept album in the way we normally understand concept albums. I'd say it's definitely a snapshot of what Marvin Gaye thought of a very turbulent time in America. It has no creative narrative that ties the songs together, really. But you could call it a reality-based concept album. It's his story about his experiences, which is more autobiographical than high-concept storytelling. It's his own observations/stories/pleas and it lets the listener know what's going on in his world—what's going on where he's living, and it delves into why the things he's seeing are the way they are.
It is one of those records that is subtly refusing colorblindness unlike most of Motown's releases. But it's not identity politics in the way we think of it. It skips the potential for castigations or sermonizing and refuses the easy distance of unique and isolated experience in favor of community and transcendence—if only we would come together as a society, he laments. What are we doing to each other? He doesn't target anybody and his disappointment is diffused throughout the populace. He doesn't name names, and he doesn't have to. We already know, and he knows we know. It's the rare feat that Marvin Gaye pulls off—he manages to tell a particularist story and make it universal somehow.
I mean, I know he's not calling me brother, but the hopes he has are directed at all the listeners he must have envisioned in his mind, and he doesn't claim imprisonment nor does he lock the gates to the place he invites you—there are no walls built preventing you from congregating. But it's honest and unflinching. If the autobiography is to be told, then he must discuss how society writ large treats him, his family, and his friends because of their station in life and their immutable characteristics. That's undeniably part of his story.
Oh, the track I might go with that isn't "What's Going On" or "Mercy Mercy Me" (also probably my #1 song since I've been twenty-one or so, which is how long I've been on this trip for what reason I do not know) is "Inner City Blues," which is R&B at its finest.
Except for the bolded. I think he's talking to everybody. Sure, he's telling it from his perspective, but I think he's being as inclusive as possible.
As usual, landry snipes me so I won't post a playlist suggestion just to get double-sniped.
You share that opinion with the late wikkidpissah, who likened Lee's voice to a dentist drill.Cosmopolitan Eephus and metalhead Lambskin agree on one thing: hatred of Rush. I love how this board brings people together.I sure hope soIs that it for Rush? Asking for a friend.![]()
To be fair it’s more that I hate Geddy Lees vocals. I actually wanted to go see Primus do A Farewell To Kings a few years back but couldn’t convince anyone else go go
Also think they’re very talented and influential so i respect them just don’t care for them as an overall package
I don't think it breaks the Thumper Rule to say, I agree with Wikkid.
"I saw a band of Stormtroopers at the local HS gym...."Oh i have some concert stories
It seems like we have an area here where a lot of the "one off" bands are being cleared out. I mean one off in sense of top 100, top 50 level stuff. Bruce, Cars, Gaye and such are getting taken and then we are going to get hit hard with British rock band albums released between 65-80.Expected this to be top 10.22. What's Going On – Marvin Gaye (652 points)
Oh missed this one. I need to give it a proper listen. I am such a hits/singles listener of the Stones. I have AJa on now (1st listen!) so maybe I will try this after.21. Let It Bleed – The Rolling Stones (660 points)
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Let It Bleed is the eighth studio album by the English rock band the Rolling Stones, released on 28 November 1969 by London Records in the United States and on 5 December 1969 by Decca Records in the United Kingdom. Released during the band's 1969 American Tour, it is the follow-up to Beggars Banquet (1968), and, like that album, is a return to the group's more blues-oriented approach that was prominent in the pre-Aftermath (1966) period of their career. Additional sounds on the album draw influence from gospel, country blues and country rock.
Yeah, you're probably right. What's Going on got six top 10 votes and eight top 20 votes, but only 13 people overall had it in their top 70. I imagine some of the big guns ahead may not have the same concentration of top 10/20 votes, but are probably more broad-based to put them ahead.It seems like we have an area here where a lot of the "one off" bands are being cleared out. I mean one off in sense of top 100, top 50 level stuff. Bruce, Cars, Gaye and such are getting taken and then we are going to get hit hard with British rock band albums released between 65-80.Expected this to be top 10.22. What's Going On – Marvin Gaye (652 points)
Fantastic album. Love it all but Gimme Shelter is just a kick *** opener.21. Let It Bleed – The Rolling Stones (660 points)
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@Nick Vermeil #30
Let It Bleed is the eighth studio album by the English rock band the Rolling Stones, released on 28 November 1969 by London Records in the United States and on 5 December 1969 by Decca Records in the United Kingdom. Released during the band's 1969 American Tour, it is the follow-up to Beggars Banquet (1968), and, like that album, is a return to the group's more blues-oriented approach that was prominent in the pre-Aftermath (1966) period of their career. Additional sounds on the album draw influence from gospel, country blues and country rock.
Had to include this on my list (my #66).One more random “one-vote” album from each participant:
@Yo Mama
1,555. Paid in Full - Eric B. & Rakim
Kinda surprised Good News for People Who Love Bad News didn’t get another vote, but at least we did get some Modest Mouse
Float on
Ocean breathes salty
Bury me with it
Bukowski
Satin in a coffin
Blame it on the tetons
The good times are killing me
Those are probably my favorites but I’m sure there’s one I’m overlooking
I strongly considered this one. Hey, we could have had one in common!
Had to include this on my list (my #66).One more random “one-vote” album from each participant:
@Yo Mama
1,555. Paid in Full - Eric B. & Rakim
To paraphrase a previous conversation, Rakim is your favorite rapper’s favorite rapper. Many subsequent hip-hop artists have mentioned this album as an inspiration for their work. Hard to believe this came out in 1987, as it sounded much different to other hip-hop at that time and really paved the way for the awesomeness of the greats of the 90s to come.
The title track is iconic, and I Ain’t No Joke, I Know You Got Soul, and even Eric B. Is President provided huge hits throughout.
This album was a huge part of the musical rotation in my late high school and early college years.
It was a joke.Dude. The Captain and Tenille ain't gonna make the countdown.
I don't get it. Do they have a song with Sophie in the title? I'm not familiar with their catalog.
Can you explain this to me like I'm a first grader?
I listened to the album for the first time yesterday and that song had me checking my speakers.Fantastic album. Love it all but Gimme Shelter is just a kick *** opener.21. Let It Bleed – The Rolling Stones (660 points)
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@Mister CIA #11
@Atomic Punk #13
@Dreaded Marco #15
@timschochet #17
@shuke #18
@turnjose7 #18
@Tau837 #20
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #28
@Nick Vermeil #30
Let It Bleed is the eighth studio album by the English rock band the Rolling Stones, released on 28 November 1969 by London Records in the United States and on 5 December 1969 by Decca Records in the United Kingdom. Released during the band's 1969 American Tour, it is the follow-up to Beggars Banquet (1968), and, like that album, is a return to the group's more blues-oriented approach that was prominent in the pre-Aftermath (1966) period of their career. Additional sounds on the album draw influence from gospel, country blues and country rock.
This is where I fall too. Gimme Shelter is a fantastic song.
Heh, confuse everyone who hasn't heard it and put Country Honk on!
Kinda surprised Good News for People Who Love Bad News didn’t get another vote, but at least we did get some Modest Mouse
Float on
Ocean breathes salty
Bury me with it
Bukowski
Satin in a coffin
Blame it on the tetons
The good times are killing me
Those are probably my favorites but I’m sure there’s one I’m overlooking
I strongly considered this one. Hey, we could have had one in common!
You'll say we've got nothing in common
No common ground to start
And we're falling apart
You'll say the world has come between us
Our lives have come between us
Still I know you just don't care
And I said what about Breakfast at Tiffany's
She said I think I remember the film
As I recall I think we both kinda liked it
Then I said well then that's one thing we got
I think it's safe to say the Stones get shut out of the Top 20.![]()
Wait, you didn’t have Let It Bleed on your list?!
he appeared more than onceBruce,
Isn’t that what they play in that Cecot prison in El Salvador? If you piss off the guards you have to hear it over and over.Kinda surprised Good News for People Who Love Bad News didn’t get another vote, but at least we did get some Modest Mouse
Float on
Ocean breathes salty
Bury me with it
Bukowski
Satin in a coffin
Blame it on the tetons
The good times are killing me
Those are probably my favorites but I’m sure there’s one I’m overlooking
I strongly considered this one. Hey, we could have had one in common!
You'll say we've got nothing in common
No common ground to start
And we're falling apart
You'll say the world has come between us
Our lives have come between us
Still I know you just don't care
And I said what about Breakfast at Tiffany's
She said I think I remember the film
As I recall I think we both kinda liked it
Then I said well then that's one thing we got
Noooooooooooooooo!
Just missed my listKinda surprised Good News for People Who Love Bad News didn’t get another vote, but at least we did get some Modest Mouse
Float on
Ocean breathes salty
Bury me with it
Bukowski
Satin in a coffin
Blame it on the tetons
The good times are killing me
Those are probably my favorites but I’m sure there’s one I’m overlooking
I strongly considered this one. Hey, we could have had one in common!
You'll say we've got nothing in common
No common ground to start
And we're falling apart
You'll say the world has come between us
Our lives have come between us
Still I know you just don't care
And I said what about Breakfast at Tiffany's
She said I think I remember the film
As I recall I think we both kinda liked it
Then I said well then that's one thing we got
I am assuming that my #4 ranked album didn't make the list either. No way at this point...428. Do or Die – Dropkick Murphys (Say Chowda ranked #7)
Yes, missed that one I guess.I am assuming that my #4 ranked album didn't make the list either. No way at this point...428. Do or Die – Dropkick Murphys (Say Chowda ranked #7)
When she turned 18 years old, Rosanne's dad gave her a list of what he considered the 100 greatest country songs of all time. She held onto that list for about 25 years before recording some of the songs for an album. Her father and step-mother had both died about 6 years earlier and she felt it was a way to pay tribute. I knew it would get no other votes, but I love this record. It's warm, smart, and heartbreaking - so I had to include it. She has several "featurings" including Tweedy, Costello, & Rufus Wainwright.@Uruk-Hai
580. The List - Rosanne Cash
This was an album you chose for me to listen to after some draft where we assigned albums to each other to listen to (exact details are fuzzy). I liked it a lot - not Top 70, but it's a nice listen.When she turned 18 years old, Rosanne's dad gave her a list of what he considered the 100 greatest country songs of all time. She held onto that list for about 25 years before recording some of the songs for an album. Her father and step-mother had both died about 6 years earlier and she felt it was a way to pay tribute. I knew it would get no other votes, but I love this record. It's warm, smart, and heartbreaking - so I had to include it. She has several "featurings" including Tweedy, Costello, & Rufus Wainwright.@Uruk-Hai
580. The List - Rosanne Cash
Your fuzzy memory is better than mine, because I have no recollection of thisThis was an album you chose for me to listen to after some draft where we assigned albums to each other to listen to (exact details are fuzzy). I liked it a lot - not Top 70, but it's a nice listen.When she turned 18 years old, Rosanne's dad gave her a list of what he considered the 100 greatest country songs of all time. She held onto that list for about 25 years before recording some of the songs for an album. Her father and step-mother had both died about 6 years earlier and she felt it was a way to pay tribute. I knew it would get no other votes, but I love this record. It's warm, smart, and heartbreaking - so I had to include it. She has several "featurings" including Tweedy, Costello, & Rufus Wainwright.@Uruk-Hai
580. The List - Rosanne Cash
Based on various threads over the years, I expected this to make the countdown. Guess it's too out there.@zamboni
728. Bitches Brew – Miles Davis
I understand why I'm the only one that ranked Monk. From Google AI:565. Monk's Dream - Theolonious Monk
The term "discordant" in relation to Thelonious Monk's music, and specifically his album "Monk's Dream", refers to the unconventional and sometimes jarring harmonies and rhythms he employed, which can sound dissonant or even "wrong" to some listeners. This was a deliberate stylistic choice, not a result of technical errors. Monk's music was highly original and defied easy categorization, even for those familiar with the jazz idiom.
Unc and his wife always named their kids after jazz artists. Miles, Oscar, Ella, (I think those are right) and I think he had a 4th kid when he left here, and I'm not sure what that kid is named, but it is most likely jazz related.Uncle Humuna is assuredly beaming with pride for that selection, wherever he is these days.
Strange Brew seems to work though.Based on various threads over the years, I expected this to make the countdown. Guess it's too out there.@zamboni
728. Bitches Brew – Miles Davis
I'm just glad that it doesn't display ###### Brew
I know. I didn't get it. What's the joke? That you referenced Captain and Tenille? Something else?It was a joke.Dude. The Captain and Tenille ain't gonna make the countdown.
I don't get it. Do they have a song with Sophie in the title? I'm not familiar with their catalog.
Can you explain this to me like I'm a first grader?
536. Birds of Fire - The Mahavishnu Orchestra
The first two Mahavishnu records are mindblowing. I should have considered them.
Thanks, all good!Yes, missed that one I guess.I am assuming that my #4 ranked album didn't make the list either. No way at this point...428. Do or Die – Dropkick Murphys (Say Chowda ranked #7)
395. Energy - Operation Ivy
Tell me whyBackstreets guy
Unc and his wife always named their kids after jazz artists. Miles, Oscar, Ella, (I think those are right) and I think he had a 4th kid when he left here, and I'm not sure what that kid is named, but it is most likely jazz related.Uncle Humuna is assuredly beaming with pride for that selection, wherever he is these days.
I wanted to name our son Duke but Mrs. Eephus put the kibosh on that because she said "it was a dog's name".
It still blows my mind that many of the people involved in these albums I love are around the same age as my mom, who's 81.536. Birds of Fire - The Mahavishnu Orchestra
The first two Mahavishnu records are mindblowing. I should have considered them.
I didn't do my MADs-adjacent post last night but two new John McLaughlin live albums just came out. One with Shakti and the other with fusion group 4th Dimension. I listened to a little bit of the latter and John can still shred in his early 80s.
More likeTell me whyBackstreets guy
Ain't nothin' but a heartache
Tell me why
Ain't nothing but a mistake
Tell me why
I never wanna hear you say
I want it that way
Not yet, but I did add it to my covers playlistDaniel, did you ever listen to the In the Air Tonight cover?
Not sure but I assigned @shuke a God Street Wine live album which he didn't dig much until last two songs where they were joined by Bob Weir.Your fuzzy memory is better than mine, because I have no recollection of thisWho'd I get - Billy Joel?
Had to include this on my list (my #66).One more random “one-vote” album from each participant:
@Yo Mama
1,555. Paid in Full - Eric B. & Rakim
To paraphrase a previous conversation, Rakim is your favorite rapper’s favorite rapper. Many subsequent hip-hop artists have mentioned this album as an inspiration for their work. Hard to believe this came out in 1987, as it sounded much different to other hip-hop at that time and really paved the way for the awesomeness of the greats of the 90s to come.
The title track is iconic, and I Ain’t No Joke, I Know You Got Soul, and even Eric B. Is President provided huge hits throughout.
This album was a huge part of the musical rotation in my late high school and early college years.
259. (tie) Strange Trails - Lord Huron (105 points)
They have a new album out from this year that I like as well.259. (tie) Strange Trails - Lord Huron (105 points)
I listened to this one yesterday when I walked my dog. I've heard some songs which I liked on XM radio back when I had that, but never really pursued them further. It's right in my wheelhouse and I really liked the album. My favorites were "Love Like Ghosts" and "Way Out There". Very bouncy americana type stuff but more folky than country leaning.
The joke was in my assumption that you picked a Captain and Tenille album as your #1. Nobody on this board would pick a Captain and Tenille album likely in their top 70, much less as their #1 album.I know. I didn't get it. What's the joke? That you referenced Captain and Tenille? Something else?It was a joke.Dude. The Captain and Tenille ain't gonna make the countdown.
I don't get it. Do they have a song with Sophie in the title? I'm not familiar with their catalog.
Can you explain this to me like I'm a first grader?