Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I listened again today while I walked my dog. I’m glad it made the Final Cut for my list but now I think I should have had it higher.
*Final Cut did not make my list but I’m one of the few people that really like it.
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Consensus Top 350 Albums of All-Time: 68. Automatic for the People – R.E.M. (205 Viewers)
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*Final Cut did not make my list but I’m one of the few people that really like it.
Val Rannous
Footballguy
I counted 47 people on that list, so I think it was just me. No worries, you're doing a bang up job!I’m sorry if I left you off - if that happened to anyone else let me know.
Wow. So, either I was so chalky that I had no other "one-vote" albums to show, or my selections were so weird that I had to be edited out of the list?
If I don’t post yours tonight I’ll do so before work tomorrow.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
As an enormous Metallica fan, I love all these older albums. They really rocked it out back then. Probably 30 of their concerts. Including some in the mid 80s when I snuck out to them as a 12-14 year old. Sadly, the better listen is "And Justice for Jason", where you can actually hear the bass lines. it was made by some fans to enhance the bass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kqTcLwUYj8
rockaction
Footballguy
I'm going with an executive decision of Trying Your Luck, and then also Somebody Told Me from Hot Fuss if these can be added pleaseRankers did we ever get a final choice this? I am cool with literally any track.103 (tie). Is This It – The Strokes (209 points)
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Is This It is the debut studio album by American rock band the Strokes. It was first released on July 30, 2001 in Australia, with RCA Records handling the release internationally and Rough Trade Records handling the United Kingdom release. It was recorded at Transporterraum in New York City with producer Gordon Raphael during March and April 2001. For their debut, the band strived to capture a simple sound that was not significantly enhanced in the studio. Building on their 2001 EP The Modern Age, the band members molded compositions largely through live takes during recording sessions, while lead singer and songwriter Julian Casablancas continued to detail the lives and relationships of urban youth in his lyrics.
That’s a good song by The Strokes and an outstanding pick off of Hot Fuss. Just a great song. It’s an outstanding track both musically for an amped up crowd and also lyrically for one that appreciates enjambment (I learned precisely that word the other day—Chat GPT and I are taking an autodidactic tour through the poetic world) and subtly shifting meaning and/or romantic loves and partners.
eta* and I’m actually going to stir up debate again and say that Room On Fire is a better album than Is This It and assert that it’s not a hot take to say so. Go song by song and Room On Fire is richer and deeper in its songwriting. The songs have more meat to them, it seems; although the charm and impact the debut had on popular consciousness regarding NYC rock in the aughts—which can be good or bad, depending on what you think of 2000-era post-punk, dance punk, and indie rock—can’t really be denied.
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Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I picked 3 albums post-2010, including my #16 pick - but I doubt any of them will make the list.
It probably doen't help that all 3 were by female fronted groups, which appear to have not gotten as much love from some of our other voters.
The Coathangers?
Mannequin *****?
I actually listen to these my wife hates them though
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I really like Dyers Eve (man that song goes hard) but think you’ve gotta go with One for the playlist. I’m open to discussion though
Blackened also great
rockaction
Footballguy
Guess you’re not bailing me out of the trap that I was mentioning. I was hoping it was you, Waterloo. ABBA is going through my head right now, although I assume they won’t make it.
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Scoresman
Footballguy
I remember when this came out all my metalhead friends hated it and thought Metallica had "sold out" but I always liked this album.
This album is a special one for me in that when my family went on a euro trip in 92, and I forgot all my cassettes on the plane ride over, this was the one left in my Walkman and all I listened to for the two week trip.
I vote for Unforgiven for the playlist.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
For American Idiot:
I'm going with "Wake Me Up When September Ends". It's just so pretty.
(Tré Cool is an excellent drummer. I'm very picky about that sort of thing.)
I'm going with "Wake Me Up When September Ends". It's just so pretty.
(Tré Cool is an excellent drummer. I'm very picky about that sort of thing.)
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
One is the best for the playlist. But if you want to head bang, Harvester of Sorrow is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2iUiHYGhMc
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Yo Mama
Footballguy
One or Blackened work for me. Your pick though.
rockaction
Footballguy
For American Idiot:
I'm going with "Wake Me Up When September Ends". It's just so pretty.
(Tré Cool is an excellent drummer. I'm very picky about that sort of thing.)
Best song off of the album to me by far. Where the other songs make it a political statement and are therefore impossible to be neutral about, this one humanizes the politics and gives it depth that escapes easy pigeonholing. I like this album more now than I did upon release. A whole lot more, actually.
I just wish they’d ditch the Gilman St. politics. They didn’t like it when Gilman turned against them, why parrot the rules by which they were ostracized? But I digress and won’t comment other than being surprised by the fidelity to their former comrades. Great album in retrospect.
eta* I shouldn’t say “impossible to be neutral about.” I should say it’s nigh impossible not to let one’s own politics be a prism through which one hears and judges this particular album. A lover going off to war is able to be contemplated without any prejudicial modern or specific judgments and feelings than a political comment that is locked into the contextual time and place that inspires the commentary. It’s less specific and more universal. It humanizes that feeling and is timeless; and while it is about youth, it is ageless in its scope.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
The only ones jumping out to me immediately are Daft Punk's Random Access Memories (2013), Taylor Swif'ts folklore (2020), Hamilton Soundtrack (2015), Jason Isbell's Southeastern (2013)
landrys hat
Footballguy
Days is a top 5 Kinks song.Dang, my #1 and #3 went today.Not much to add versus what others have already said about it.92. The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society – The Kinks (253 points)
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The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society is the sixth studio album by the English rock band the Kinks. Released on 22 November 1968, Village Green was a modest seller, but it was lauded by contemporary critics for its songwriting and has subsequently been regarded by commentators as an early concept album. The album was the band's first which failed to chart in either the United Kingdom or United States, and its embrace by America's new underground rock press completed the Kinks' transformation from mid-1960s pop hitmakers to critically favored cult band.
It looks like a tie between me and @landrys hat for the top-picker for the playlist. I lean to the title track as it tells you both tells you the album and one of the best songs on the album (“God save Donald Duck”). Open to other thoughts from @landrys hat Not really a bad song on it and my favorite album of The Kinks top-down (obviously). I also have a bit of a soft spot for Picture Book, as I think it was also my first introduction to this album from its use in an HP commercial way back when.
I also like title track for the playlist.
I got this box set https://www.discogs.com/release/127...ks-Are-The-Village-Green-Preservation-Society a while back and there's all kinds of good stuff in there.
That’s exactly the one I have. The Scandinavian 12” version with “Days” on it is awesome. Love that version.
Queen was my first concert in 1978. Nothing ever topped it.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
I envy you.Queen was my first concert in 1978. Nothing ever topped it.
Rand al Thor
Footballguy
Harvester of Sorrow rocks and would be my second choice, but I'd vote for the obvious song, One. I remember being about 17 or 18 and listening to "One" in my car at full volume and thinking to myself, "I have the privilege of listening to the release of the greatest heavy metal song ever recorded." Metallica, for me, is broken up into two different eras: Pre Black Album and Post Black album. One era represented one of the best bands ever in their genre; the other was a bad joke. Hero of the Day is the Metallica version of Shiny Happy People. But I digress. Sorry, been caught drinking...One is the best for the playlist. But if you want to head bang, Harvester of Sorrow is
Rand al Thor
Footballguy
I've listened to both versions, and honestly, I like the original without any audible bass better. And truly, you cannot hear any bass guitar on that album because they let Lars get into the mixing room. BUT, what you get is the largest in-your-face kick drum ever because there is nothing else at that frequency to compete with. So you can turn it up and feel that kick in your chest without anything else being muddy. I do feel bad for Jason though.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
I get it. The original is certainly more raw, which is what original Metallica was. I think there are great base lines in these songs (eg Blackened). And while Jason was never as technical as Robert or the original like Cliff, he was easily the best bassist they had in concert. Such a force on stage. Guess I have a soft spot for him cause seeing him live is the Metallica I know the best.
rockaction
Footballguy
Days is a top 5 Kinks songDang, my #1 and #3 went today.Not much to add versus what others have already said about it.92. The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society – The Kinks (253 points)
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The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society is the sixth studio album by the English rock band the Kinks. Released on 22 November 1968, Village Green was a modest seller, but it was lauded by contemporary critics for its songwriting and has subsequently been regarded by commentators as an early concept album. The album was the band's first which failed to chart in either the United Kingdom or United States, and its embrace by America's new underground rock press completed the Kinks' transformation from mid-1960s pop hitmakers to critically favored cult band.
It looks like a tie between me and @landrys hat for the top-picker for the playlist. I lean to the title track as it tells you both tells you the album and one of the best songs on the album (“God save Donald Duck”). Open to other thoughts from @landrys hat Not really a bad song on it and my favorite album of The Kinks top-down (obviously). I also have a bit of a soft spot for Picture Book, as I think it was also my first introduction to this album from its use in an HP commercial way back when.
I also like title track for the playlist.
I got this box set https://www.discogs.com/release/127...ks-Are-The-Village-Green-Preservation-Society a while back and there's all kinds of good stuff in there.
That’s exactly the one I have. The Scandinavian 12” version with “Days” on it is awesome. Love that version.
Phenomenal song from phenomenal cats.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Let’s go with One from Justice
Final
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Mt. Man
Footballguy
103 (tie). Kick – INXS (209 points)
It’s probably impossible to be sure, but there’s a case to be made that I listened to this album more than any other in high school. Yes, even over Metallica or Operation: Mindcrime or a variety of classics. That’s obviously been scaled back between now and then, but it still gets occasional play.
For that, it’s hard to pick a song that I like the best. It sounds like a copout, but it’s honestly a bit dependant on mood. I’d have to put the sax-y, sentimental “Never Tearl Us Apart” first, but with “Devil Inside”, the super-catchy “Mystify” or “Need You Tonight”. I sometimes couple with the song that follows it, “Mediate”, as I remember MTV having them together. It’s not as strong as… some other pairs of songs, but it’s there.
It’s probably impossible to be sure, but there’s a case to be made that I listened to this album more than any other in high school. Yes, even over Metallica or Operation: Mindcrime or a variety of classics. That’s obviously been scaled back between now and then, but it still gets occasional play.
For that, it’s hard to pick a song that I like the best. It sounds like a copout, but it’s honestly a bit dependant on mood. I’d have to put the sax-y, sentimental “Never Tearl Us Apart” first, but with “Devil Inside”, the super-catchy “Mystify” or “Need You Tonight”. I sometimes couple with the song that follows it, “Mediate”, as I remember MTV having them together. It’s not as strong as… some other pairs of songs, but it’s there.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Justice is just one of my favorite albums of all time. For sure in my top 10. Start at track one and hit play. Love it.Harvester of Sorrow rocks and would be my second choice, but I'd vote for the obvious song, One. I remember being about 17 or 18 and listening to "One" in my car at full volume and thinking to myself, "I have the privilege of listening to the release of the greatest heavy metal song ever recorded." Metallica, for me, is broken up into two different eras: Pre Black Album and Post Black album. One era represented one of the best bands ever in their genre; the other was a bad joke. Hero of the Day is the Metallica version of Shiny Happy People. But I digress. Sorry, been caught drinking...One is the best for the playlist. But if you want to head bang, Harvester of Sorrow is
Mt. Man
Footballguy
Also, hey look, more Metallica love today! Both were considered, but left out to thanks to my personal rules. Only 2 from me: Ride the Lightning and... well, we'll see later, I imagine. Personal rankings are/were (in the last M-AD effort):
Metallica/Black Album: Wherever I May Roam, Enter Sandman, The Unforgiven, Sad But True
...And Justice For All: One, Harvester of Sorrow, ...And Justice For All, Blackened, To Live is To Die, Frayed Ends of Sanity
But technically I'm not a voter, so do as you will.
Metallica/Black Album: Wherever I May Roam, Enter Sandman, The Unforgiven, Sad But True
...And Justice For All: One, Harvester of Sorrow, ...And Justice For All, Blackened, To Live is To Die, Frayed Ends of Sanity
But technically I'm not a voter, so do as you will.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
Padawan? Not me, I'm too old to begin the training.We'll see, young Padawan.I've got one as well (his best one naturally).
rockaction
Footballguy
Did Random Access Memories break the top 350? I think it was just a highly-rated one by you, Ilov.
I just checked and didn’t see it.
eta* I love it, by the way. I’ve had a couple of conversations with my mother about who Daft Punk is the past couple of months beginning with the fact that they’re not punk rock to her knowing the songs because of pop culture (“You mean that Pharrell Williams song is Daft Punk?”—which is extraordinarily funny that a septuagenarian knows who Pharrell Williams is and shows how huge he is) and sports bumper music. So even she’s heard and likes Random Access Memories and its hit song.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
They were velcro, and you needed help.One vote for Mandolin Wind here97. Every Picture Tells A Story – Rod Stewart (233 points)
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I wouldn't let y'all tie my shoes. Maggie May for me. Over to @timschochet for the exclamation!
your mom ties my shoes for me.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I had one!
rockaction
Footballguy
They were velcro, and you needed help.One vote for Mandolin Wind here97. Every Picture Tells A Story – Rod Stewart (233 points)
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I wouldn't let y'all tie my shoes. Maggie May for me. Over to @timschochet for the exclamation!
your mom ties my shoes for me.
eta* this was a lovingly crafted insult par excellence. No offense to Binky, of course, but a great rejoinder. Only people comfortable with each other can do that, so it was funny.
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Val Rannous
Footballguy
Nope, not them. The Coathangers are a little too far into the punk side for my usual listening tastes, and I'm not familiar with Mannequin *****.
I picked 3 albums post-2010, including my #16 pick - but I doubt any of them will make the list.
It probably doen't help that all 3 were by female fronted groups, which appear to have not gotten as much love from some of our other voters.
The Coathangers?
Mannequin *****?
I actually listen to these my wife hates them though
I guess it's not spotlighting if I talk about a band without actually mentioning an album. I took 1 Grace Potter and the Nocturnals selection (sorta folk/blues rock), and 2 albums from the criminally underrated but hard rocking The Pretty Reckless. I'd love to see them appear on the list, but chances are I'm the only person here who picked them. Great band, they've been the opening act for AC/DC for the last couple of years.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
It seems like a lot of people were counting on me to vote with them. I only have 70 slots, just like everybody else!
Or, as Ray Davies might say, I’m not not like everybody else.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
A pity tie.They were velcro, and you needed help.One vote for Mandolin Wind here97. Every Picture Tells A Story – Rod Stewart (233 points)
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I wouldn't let y'all tie my shoes. Maggie May for me. Over to @timschochet for the exclamation!
your mom ties my shoes for me.
rockaction
Footballguy
Nope, not them. The Coathangers are a little too far into the punk side for my usual listening tastes, and I'm not familiar with Mannequin *****.
I picked 3 albums post-2010, including my #16 pick - but I doubt any of them will make the list.
It probably doen't help that all 3 were by female fronted groups, which appear to have not gotten as much love from some of our other voters.
The Coathangers?
Mannequin *****?
I actually listen to these my wife hates them though
I guess it's not spotlighting if I talk about a band without actually mentioning an album. I took 1 Grace Potter and the Nocturnals selection (sorta folk/blues rock), and 2 albums from the criminally underrated but hard rocking The Pretty Reckless. I'd love to see them appear on the list, but chances are I'm the only person here who picked them. Great band, they've been the opening act for AC/DC for the last couple of years.
The Pretty Reckless were Raging Weasel’s MAD 31 band one round. He digs them a bunch.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Added.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Did you go to my high school? It was played at EVERY party I went to in those years.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Oh shoot, it came up in conversation. Maybe it was the album I had ranked highest that didn't make it. I think I have a song to remove from the playlist. Whoops.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
They are really good.
BrutalPenguin
Footballguy
The Unforgiven or The God That Failed? Every song is great.
rockaction
Footballguy
That's funny. I only remember it because you were wondering a bit why I hadn’t ranked it and if Daft Punk would be in the countdown. You seemed like you would have been surprised if I hadn't ranked at least one of them, and you were right. Discovery was #2 (it is not my #2 album of all time, but that doesn't matter—it was #2 in the Engine Ranker that day). Random might be a better album all things considered and really should be in my top seventy, but I don't know. I think their debut could be also.
I think I need to listen to more dance music, actually. titusbramble seems to have a really good bead on it and I listened to KLF the other day because I think he and Long Ball Larry usually recommend really good stuff. KLF did not click, but that doesn't reflect upon the recommenders; it just wasn't my thing.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I saw them at Sea Hear Now last year, and they stole the day on Saturday.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
That limp bizkit album was pretty cool for
The time before they got more produced and more pop-oriented
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
Unforgiven
rockaction
Footballguy
88 (tie). Loaded – The Velvet Underground (260 points)
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Loaded is the fourth studio album by the American rock band the Velvet Underground, released on November 15, 1970 by Atlantic Records subsidiary Cotillion. It was the final album recorded featuring any of the band's original members; the lead singer and primary songwriter Lou Reed left the band shortly before the album's release, and the guitarist Sterling Morrison and the drummer Maureen Tucker left the band in 1971. For this reason, it is often considered by fans to be the last "true" Velvet Underground album. The multi-instrumentalist Doug Yule remained and released the album Squeeze in 1973 before the band's dissolution the same year.
Wow, number one, huh? This is such an outstanding album that I'm not surprised people like it this much. I'm beginning to think my Velvet pick might not make it. I'm counting on Eephus and a few others now for that one. This is a remarkable album, and in keeping with my septuagenarian theme where my mother thinks a band or music is punk; when, in its current iteration it surely isn't, this was one I had in the stereo on the way to the store with her. She said, "This is the Velvet Underground? I thought they were punk. This is really mellow and sounds pleasant."
The song was either "Who Loves The Sun" or "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'" and it was a sunny day—a perfect day on which to listen to Loaded. I picked "Rock & Roll" as my number one song for my genre-themed countdown, and also I love the songs "Sweet Jane" (of course), and more off of the beaten path, "New Age," which cracks me up due to Lou Reed's lyrics. "Can have I your autograph?/He said to the fat, blonde actress," which is one of those lines where you wonder to yourself, "Did he really just say that?" but it's Lou Reed, so one understands at that point once you know it's him.
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Chaos34
Footballguy
Yup. I'm avoiding saying I should had this one or that one because I know how much time I put into what I ended up with, but this one is a facepalm for sure.
kupcho1
Footballguy
Checks stats ... over 59,000 posts.
rockaction
Footballguy
I totally remember this ad and was surprised they'd use a reasonably deep cut off of this particular album, which I had purchased on a whim from the Borders down on the corner of 18th & something in D.C. I used to go there during work, and that was sort of my place to get decent stuff and jam on back there to listen and read some more (which is what I got paid to do). In a non-sequitur incoming, I also purchased Zombie Heaven there (the Zombies' CD box set) because it got a great review in the City Paper or local arts paper, I had loved every track I had heard by them, and the cover was so bespoke that it demanded a purchase with tight money. But it was oh-so worth it!
And I'm surprised fellow countdown members Green Day never got sued for "Warning," which really appropriates a similar bass line to "Animal Farm"—the song you mentioned in your post (I didn't quote that part, darn it, and can't correct it). The Kinks are probably just cool, phenomenal cats and decided not to litigate that little lift, I think. (Green Day borrows often and the title track of the American Idiot album we were just discussing lifted or sounded uniquely similar to the guitar riff in Dillinger Four's "O.K.F.M.D.O.A.," a lift that was settled out of the court system but involved monetary compensation, which I'm also imagining Green Day didn't mind because D4 are not rich and Green Day, by all accounts, gives back heavily to the punk scene from which they came).
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shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Hampton Comes Alive is a 6 CD release of two complete shows from 1998. I like this particular look into live Phish because in addition to some of their great originals, it is loaded with covers, some that are genuinely good (Beastie Boys' Sabotage, Stevie Wonder's Boogie on Reggae Woman), and some that are questionable or just plain silly (Gettin Jiggy Wit It). For an official releaes, it really shows the unpredictability of the band.
AM is Wilco's debut album, and it's definitely in the alt-country realm. It's not my favorite of theirs, but I still have a great appreciation for it.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Nope, not them. The Coathangers are a little too far into the punk side for my usual listening tastes, and I'm not familiar with Mannequin *****.
I picked 3 albums post-2010, including my #16 pick - but I doubt any of them will make the list.
It probably doen't help that all 3 were by female fronted groups, which appear to have not gotten as much love from some of our other voters.
The Coathangers?
Mannequin *****?
I actually listen to these my wife hates them though
I guess it's not spotlighting if I talk about a band without actually mentioning an album. I took 1 Grace Potter and the Nocturnals selection (sorta folk/blues rock), and 2 albums from the criminally underrated but hard rocking The Pretty Reckless. I'd love to see them appear on the list, but chances are I'm the only person here who picked them. Great band, they've been the opening act for AC/DC for the last couple of years.
I like the pretty reckless I always mix them up with Halestorm though who I prefer. Dorothy is solid too
Val Rannous
Footballguy
Dorothy was one of my last cuts before I did my rankings, really good stuff.Nope, not them. The Coathangers are a little too far into the punk side for my usual listening tastes, and I'm not familiar with Mannequin *****.
I picked 3 albums post-2010, including my #16 pick - but I doubt any of them will make the list.
It probably doen't help that all 3 were by female fronted groups, which appear to have not gotten as much love from some of our other voters.
The Coathangers?
Mannequin *****?
I actually listen to these my wife hates them though
I guess it's not spotlighting if I talk about a band without actually mentioning an album. I took 1 Grace Potter and the Nocturnals selection (sorta folk/blues rock), and 2 albums from the criminally underrated but hard rocking The Pretty Reckless. I'd love to see them appear on the list, but chances are I'm the only person here who picked them. Great band, they've been the opening act for AC/DC for the last couple of years.
I like the pretty reckless I always mix them up with Halestorm though who I prefer. Dorothy is solid too
