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Consensus Top 350 Albums of All-Time: 68. Automatic for the People – R.E.M. (205 Viewers)

I kind of went the other way with my choices. It was "Ok, what album would I HAVE to have? That's #1. What's the next I'd have to have? That's #2". Then I stopped when I got to 70 and submitted the list before I could change my mind.

Because, otherwise, I know me and I'd have 2,500 LPs on a list and end up in 6 months of therapy trying to winnow them down. I know I'm gonna be kicking myself as the reveals happen, but my own sanity has to take the front seat :lol:

This might be a good time to re-post this Ranking Engine for those who are struggling.

As for me, I'm on a business trip and returning very late next Wednesday. At that point, I can focus on this. I do have a preliminary list that is mostly just a bunch of artist names. Also, I talk with OH about this periodically and he names 20 albums in his top five each time, but he hasn't put "pen to paper" yet.
 
This might be a good time to re-post this Ranking Engine for those who are struggling.

Thank you! Love this engine.

As for me, I'm on a business trip and returning very late next Wednesday. At that point, I can focus on this. I do have a preliminary list that is mostly just a bunch of artist names. Also, I talk with OH about this periodically and he names 20 albums in his top five each time, but he hasn't put "pen to paper" yet.

Hope you both get a chance to do it!
 
Does anybody know how you submit in Google Sheets or Excel? I'm having a difficult time with it.

eta* Got it. Submitted! Nice stuff.
 
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You guys are stressing me out, and mine is done.

I thought to myself the other day I haven't listened to many albums over that last week. I think subconsciously I just don't want to stumble on any I forgot about and want to change my list. :lol:
I justified the approach when I vaulted one from #65 to top 30 before even completing a full spin. The top of your list is the top, you don't forget, but once beyond tier 1 when breaks are sometimes needed, you're prone to forget how great some albums are just because you haven't listened to them much recently.
 
For my list, I’m sure I have a decent amount of chalk but lots of albums unique to me. Here was the basic criteria I used in my rankings:

- Does listening to this album bring me back to a specific time/place when hearing it. How prevalent was this album in the “soundtrack of my life”.
- When I hear a song from this album on the radio, do I immediately expect to hear the next song on the album afterward. Flow is important. (Concept albums did well.)
- The overall depth/strength of the album. An album could have 2 great songs and a bunch of filler / skips. That won’t make my list.
- Do/did I have the album in multiple formats - CD, cassette, record, even 8-track.

Here is how my top 70 shakes out by genre:
- Classick Rock /Prog - 24
- Alternative Rock /Grunge - 20
- New Wave / Pop / R&B - 11
- Hip Hop / Rap - 10
- Metal / Metalish - 5
 
21 lists in

We have our 4th - unique #1 overall album.

Wait, only 4 different #1s among 21 people? That is crazy.
I think I might give this a spin (see what I did there?). If I do,I expect to have a lot of outliers. I am also going to find it hard to keep greatest hits off my list. I assume greatest hits that were smash albums in their own rights are out as well? I'm thinking along the lines of Bob Marley & the Wailers "Legend", Cream "Strange Brew", or The Eagles Greatest Hits, which were all multi-platinum albums.
 
21 lists in

We have our 4th - unique #1 overall album.

Wait, only 4 different #1s among 21 people? That is crazy.
I think I might give this a spin (see what I did there?). If I do,I expect to have a lot of outliers. I am also going to find it hard to keep greatest hits off my list. I assume greatest hits that were smash albums in their own rights are out as well? I'm thinking along the lines of Bob Marley & the Wailers "Legend", Cream "Strange Brew", or The Eagles Greatest Hits, which were all multi-platinum albums.
No greatest hits compilations.
 
21 lists in

We have our 4th - unique #1 overall album.

Wait, only 4 different #1s among 21 people? That is crazy.
I think I might give this a spin (see what I did there?). If I do,I expect to have a lot of outliers. I am also going to find it hard to keep greatest hits off my list. I assume greatest hits that were smash albums in their own rights are out as well? I'm thinking along the lines of Bob Marley & the Wailers "Legend", Cream "Strange Brew", or The Eagles Greatest Hits, which were all multi-platinum albums.
No greatest hits compilations.
You're tough but fair.
 
21 lists in

We have our 4th - unique #1 overall album.

Wait, only 4 different #1s among 21 people? That is crazy.
I think I might give this a spin (see what I did there?). If I do,I expect to have a lot of outliers. I am also going to find it hard to keep greatest hits off my list. I assume greatest hits that were smash albums in their own rights are out as well? I'm thinking along the lines of Bob Marley & the Wailers "Legend", Cream "Strange Brew", or The Eagles Greatest Hits, which were all multi-platinum albums.
No greatest hits compilations.
You're tough but fair.
Doc was straight up out of the gate about that, though I think some artists who weren't allowed as much creative freedom as others at the time will be sorely underrepresented.
 
21 lists in

We have our 4th - unique #1 overall album.

Wait, only 4 different #1s among 21 people? That is crazy.
I think I might give this a spin (see what I did there?). If I do,I expect to have a lot of outliers. I am also going to find it hard to keep greatest hits off my list. I assume greatest hits that were smash albums in their own rights are out as well? I'm thinking along the lines of Bob Marley & the Wailers "Legend", Cream "Strange Brew", or The Eagles Greatest Hits, which were all multi-platinum albums.
No greatest hits compilations.
You're tough but fair.
Doc was straight up out of the gate about that, though I think some artists who weren't allowed as much creative freedom as others at the time will be sorely underrepresented.
I thought there was some leeway with early artists and Doc said that would not police too heavily, if those are what have in mind. E.g., I included Muddy Waters’ The Real Folk Blues on my list even though it is a singles compilation. It seemed distinguishable to me from something like The Eagles’ Greatest Hits where everything was originally on studio albums which were pretty widely available. And if I wanted a Muddy Waters’ greatest hits album, I would have picked the 2001 anthology instead. I could see something like a Robert Johnson collection similarly.

If I stretched it too much, whatever. I probably stretched it more with a few Brazil/Africa compilations that are not going to appear in the 300 anyway.
 
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21 lists in

We have our 4th - unique #1 overall album.

Wait, only 4 different #1s among 21 people? That is crazy.
I think I might give this a spin (see what I did there?). If I do,I expect to have a lot of outliers. I am also going to find it hard to keep greatest hits off my list. I assume greatest hits that were smash albums in their own rights are out as well? I'm thinking along the lines of Bob Marley & the Wailers "Legend", Cream "Strange Brew", or The Eagles Greatest Hits, which were all multi-platinum albums.
No greatest hits compilations.
No Eagles either
 
As of now one band has 3 Top 10 albums (and 4 in the Top 11) - it's NOT the Beatles

I'm not surprised by this at all, assuming the band is:

Led Zeppelin

If so, I am encouraged by the collective taste and judgment of the voters that have submitted lists so far.
 
As of now one band has 3 Top 10 albums (and 4 in the Top 11) - it's NOT the Beatles

I'm not surprised by this at all, assuming the band is:

Led Zeppelin

If so, I am encouraged by the collective taste and judgment of the voters that have submitted lists so far.
I’m still holding out for Floyd but yeah it seems like we have a lot of people that actually enjoy Robert plants vocals for some reason
 
21 lists in

We have our 4th - unique #1 overall album.

Wait, only 4 different #1s among 21 people? That is crazy.
I think I might give this a spin (see what I did there?). If I do,I expect to have a lot of outliers. I am also going to find it hard to keep greatest hits off my list. I assume greatest hits that were smash albums in their own rights are out as well? I'm thinking along the lines of Bob Marley & the Wailers "Legend", Cream "Strange Brew", or The Eagles Greatest Hits, which were all multi-platinum albums.
No greatest hits compilations.
You're tough but fair.
Doc was straight up out of the gate about that, though I think some artists who weren't allowed as much creative freedom as others at the time will be sorely underrepresented.
I thought there was some leeway with early artists and Doc said that would not police too heavily, if those are what have in mind. E.g., I included Muddy Waters’ The Real Folk Blues on my list even though it is a singles compilation. It seemed distinguishable to me from something like The Eagles’ Greatest Hits where everything was originally on studio albums which were pretty widely available. And if I wanted a Muddy Waters’ greatest hits album, I would have picked the 2001 anthology instead. I could see something like a Robert Johnson collection similarly.

If I stretched it too much, whatever. I probably stretched it more with a few Brazil/Africa compilations that are not going to appear in the 300 anyway.
I have a similar album on my list and Dr O hasn't sent out a hit squad for me yet, so I may be just on the right side of the cheat line.

Wait! I have two dudes at my door - one says his name is Guido and the other says his is Va'Darious. I think I may have issues here. Thanks, Doc!
 
21 lists in

We have our 4th - unique #1 overall album.

Wait, only 4 different #1s among 21 people? That is crazy.
I think I might give this a spin (see what I did there?). If I do,I expect to have a lot of outliers. I am also going to find it hard to keep greatest hits off my list. I assume greatest hits that were smash albums in their own rights are out as well? I'm thinking along the lines of Bob Marley & the Wailers "Legend", Cream "Strange Brew", or The Eagles Greatest Hits, which were all multi-platinum albums.
No greatest hits compilations.
You're tough but fair.
Doc was straight up out of the gate about that, though I think some artists who weren't allowed as much creative freedom as others at the time will be sorely underrepresented.
I thought there was some leeway with early artists and Doc said that would not police too heavily, if those are what have in mind. E.g., I included Muddy Waters’ The Real Folk Blues on my list even though it is a singles compilation. It seemed distinguishable to me from something like The Eagles’ Greatest Hits where everything was originally on studio albums which were pretty widely available. And if I wanted a Muddy Waters’ greatest hits album, I would have picked the 2001 anthology instead. I could see something like a Robert Johnson collection similarly.

If I stretched it too much, whatever. I probably stretched it more with a few Brazil/Africa compilations that are not going to appear in the 300 anyway.
Yes, some one else just asked in a pm and I said compilations where those are the only real recordings is fine. Just don’t want a list a greatest hits albums.
 
As of now one band has 3 Top 10 albums (and 4 in the Top 11) - it's NOT the Beatles

I'm not surprised by this at all, assuming the band is:

Led Zeppelin

If so, I am encouraged by the collective taste and judgment of the voters that have submitted lists so far.
I’m still holding out for Floyd but yeah it seems like we have a lot of people that actually enjoy Robert plants vocals for some reason
One of you is correct.
 
21 lists in

We have our 4th - unique #1 overall album.

Wait, only 4 different #1s among 21 people? That is crazy.
No - I mean a #1 overall album that only appears on that one list.
I am assuming one of these is mine, but at the same time in would have thought the artist is prominent enough that it wasn't. Time will tell
That artist has multiple other albums chosen so far.
 
One week away from the deadline - 23 lists are in (we have our first female perspective :love:).

Reminder:

Submissions should be formatted as

Album Name - Artist - points


points should be in reverse of the ranking meaning your top album gets 70 points, second favorite 69 points and so on until you're 70th album gets 1 point.

It would be helpful if lists are submitted from a google sheets or excel spreadsheet - but not necessary if you can't.
 
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One week away from the deadline - 23 lists are in (we have our first female perspective :love:).

Reminder:

Submissions should be formatted as

Album Name - Artist - points


points should be in reverse of the ranking meaning your top album gets 70 points, second favorite 69 points and so on until you're 70th album gets 1 point.

It would be helpful if lists are submitted from a excel spreadsheet - but not necessary if you can't.
What does this mean? If I construct the most in excel but then paste it in a pm should I just ctrl-c and ctrl-v or do I need to do something else?

Do you specifically want/need the hyphens and spaces around the hyphens included?
 
One week away from the deadline - 23 lists are in (we have our first female perspective :love:).

Reminder:

Submissions should be formatted as

Album Name - Artist - points


points should be in reverse of the ranking meaning your top album gets 70 points, second favorite 69 points and so on until you're 70th album gets 1 point.

It would be helpful if lists are submitted from a excel spreadsheet - but not necessary if you can't.
What does this mean? If I construct the most in excel but then paste it in a pm should I just ctrl-c and ctrl-v or do I need to do something else?

Do you specifically want/need the hyphens and spaces around the hyphens included?

I made my list in Excel, and every time I tried to post it into a PM, even if I cut down to 35 or even 25 albums, I got the error that it exceeded max characters. Ultimately, I copied it from Excel and used "Paste and Match Style" to paste it into a numbered list in a PM.

@Dr. Octopus : I missed the direction to use this format and put mine in a list numbered 1-70. I assume my intent that 1 was my top album (70 points) and 70 was my lowest ranked album (1 point). Sorry about that.
 
One week away from the deadline - 23 lists are in (we have our first female perspective :love:).

Reminder:

Submissions should be formatted as

Album Name - Artist - points


points should be in reverse of the ranking meaning your top album gets 70 points, second favorite 69 points and so on until you're 70th album gets 1 point.

It would be helpful if lists are submitted from a excel spreadsheet - but not necessary if you can't.
What does this mean? If I construct the most in excel but then paste it in a pm should I just ctrl-c and ctrl-v or do I need to do something else?

Do you specifically want/need the hyphens and spaces around the hyphens included?
Excel and paste in a pm should work - no hyphens should be included.
 
One week away from the deadline - 23 lists are in (we have our first female perspective :love:).

Reminder:

Submissions should be formatted as

Album Name - Artist - points


points should be in reverse of the ranking meaning your top album gets 70 points, second favorite 69 points and so on until you're 70th album gets 1 point.

It would be helpful if lists are submitted from a excel spreadsheet - but not necessary if you can't.
What does this mean? If I construct the most in excel but then paste it in a pm should I just ctrl-c and ctrl-v or do I need to do something else?

Do you specifically want/need the hyphens and spaces around the hyphens included?

I made my list in Excel, and every time I tried to post it into a PM, even if I cut down to 35 or even 25 albums, I got the error that it exceeded max characters. Ultimately, I copied it from Excel and used "Paste and Match Style" to paste it into a numbered list in a PM.

@Dr. Octopus : I missed the direction to use this format and put mine in a list numbered 1-70. I assume my intent that 1 was my top album (70 points) and 70 was my lowest ranked album (1 point). Sorry about that.

Yes - I want them listed in order from your rankings of 1-70 but the points will be from 70-1. You're good.
 
One week away from the deadline - 23 lists are in (we have our first female perspective :love:).

Reminder:

Submissions should be formatted as

Album Name - Artist - points


points should be in reverse of the ranking meaning your top album gets 70 points, second favorite 69 points and so on until you're 70th album gets 1 point.

It would be helpful if lists are submitted from a excel spreadsheet - but not necessary if you can't.
What does this mean? If I construct the most in excel but then paste it in a pm should I just ctrl-c and ctrl-v or do I need to do something else?

Do you specifically want/need the hyphens and spaces around the hyphens included?
Excel and paste in a pm should work - no hyphens should be included.
Er, forgive me for being dense, but if there are no hypens, how are you distinguishing when the album names end and the artist names begin? Surely you're not going through the lists by hand, but you can't use text to columns without a delinating character... :confused:
 
One week away from the deadline - 23 lists are in (we have our first female perspective :love:).

Reminder:

Submissions should be formatted as

Album Name - Artist - points


points should be in reverse of the ranking meaning your top album gets 70 points, second favorite 69 points and so on until you're 70th album gets 1 point.

It would be helpful if lists are submitted from a excel spreadsheet - but not necessary if you can't.
What does this mean? If I construct the most in excel but then paste it in a pm should I just ctrl-c and ctrl-v or do I need to do something else?

Do you specifically want/need the hyphens and spaces around the hyphens included?
Excel and paste in a pm should work - no hyphens should be included.
Er, forgive me for being dense, but if there are no hypens, how are you distinguishing when the album names end and the artist names begin? Surely you're not going through the lists by hand, but you can't use text to columns without a delinating character... :confused:
Because it's sent to me in columns already. If you're typing it all out, then you can add hyphens.
 
One week away from the deadline - 23 lists are in (we have our first female perspective :love:).

Reminder:

Submissions should be formatted as

Album Name - Artist - points


points should be in reverse of the ranking meaning your top album gets 70 points, second favorite 69 points and so on until you're 70th album gets 1 point.

It would be helpful if lists are submitted from a excel spreadsheet - but not necessary if you can't.
What does this mean? If I construct the most in excel but then paste it in a pm should I just ctrl-c and ctrl-v or do I need to do something else?

Do you specifically want/need the hyphens and spaces around the hyphens included?
Excel and paste in a pm should work - no hyphens should be included.
Er, forgive me for being dense, but if there are no hypens, how are you distinguishing when the album names end and the artist names begin? Surely you're not going through the lists by hand, but you can't use text to columns without a delinating character... :confused:
Because it's sent to me in columns already. If you're typing it all out, then you can add hyphens.
Thanks, I didn't realize that simple paste in a PM resulted in columns. ----*the more you know
 
The 24th list is in

One of our unique to one list #1 overall albums found another fan - breaking away from the other three stuck at 70 points with 108 points which puts it into a tie with another more popular album from the same band. Those 70 pointers are still in the Top 200.
 
At this point I’m catching a lot of the “mistakes” people make with bands/albums (I.e. “the” before some bands or album titles left off), some even getting words wrong in an album title “everyone” instead of “everybody” (and far worse :cough: tim), but there’s bound to be some mistakes in the Countdown if people don’t make the effort on their end.
 
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At this point I’m catching a lot of the “mistakes” people make with bands/albums (I.e. “the” before some bands or album titles left off), some even getting words wrong in an album title “everyone” instead of “everybody” (and far worse :cough: tim), but there’s bound to be some mistakes if people don’t make the effort on their end.
If mine is one of those, kick it back my way and I'll sort it out.
 
At this point I’m catching a lot of the “mistakes” people make with bands/albums (I.e. “the” before some bands or album titles left off), some even getting words wrong in an album title “everyone” instead of “everybody” (and far worse :cough: tim), but there’s bound to be some mistakes if people don’t make the effort on their end.
If mine is one of those, kick it back my way and I'll sort it out.
Everyone that submitted is good now.

I’ve made plenty of the mistakes myself with the original inputs.
 
At this point I’m catching a lot of the “mistakes” people make with bands/albums (I.e. “the” before some bands or album titles left off), some even getting words wrong in an album title “everyone” instead of “everybody” (and far worse :cough: tim), but there’s bound to be some mistakes if people don’t make the effort on their end.
At least I don't do that one. I'm picky. I have to be. I'm not that good a typist.
 
Less than a week away from submission deadline.
Countdown to start July 7th assuming I don’t get overrun by late submissions.
Where are the unique #1’s, 2’s, 3’s, 4’s and 5’s ranking?

There are now 3 unique albums ranked #1 - they are ranked 193.

3 unique #2s - they rank 199

3 unique #3s - 200

5 unique #4s - 204


As of now every album ranked 15th or higher makes the Top 300 (that's likely to decrease as we get more lists in).
 

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