Could Ryan Grant be cut? (1 Viewer)

[Mr.Pack]

No chance. They aren't going to pay a guy $3.5 million to sit. Especially not Grant.

Not a chance.

 

[Tau837]

lol at ahman green not being a "franchise back."

 

[GroveDiesel]

not to derail the ahman green convo....

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html

Pay cut, guarantees for Grant

By Bob McGinn of the Journal Sentinel

Aug. 24, 2011 4:34 p.m.

Running back Ryan Grant probably strengthened his chances of making the final roster of the Green Bay Packers by accepting a $1 million reduction in his base salary this season in exchange for a guaranteed contract.

On Aug. 9, the Packers and Alan Herman, the agent for Grant, agreed to a restructuring in which Grant's base salary was reduced from $3.5 million to $2.5 million. His cap salary this year decreased from $4.797 million to $3.797 million, which gives the Packers an extra $1 million of room to re-sign veterans such as Josh Sitton and Jermichael Finley.

However, Grant's new base salary of $2.5 million was fully guaranteed against both skill and injury. His previous base of $3.5 million was not guaranteed.

Thus, if the Packers were to cut Grant on the final roster reduction Sept. 3, they now would have to pay him the $2.5 million. Before the restructuring, they wouldn't have had to pay him the $3.5 million if he was cut before the start of the regular season.

No other changes were made to the final year of the four-year, $18 million contract that Grant signed in August 2008.

Earlier this month, Grant was paid a roster bonus of $1 million on the 15th day of the NFL year. He can earn another $750,00 in roster bonuses by being active for every game.

Gee, ya think!? With the salary being guaranteed, there's no REASON to cut him. What a bunch of dopes.

 

[cvnpoka]

well, the open roster spot still has value so there could be reason if hes that bad. or if he blows his knee out tomorrow.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Ahman Green was no Dorsey Levens.

 

[griff321]

well, the open roster spot still has value so there could be reason if hes that bad. or if he blows his knee out tomorrow.

The GB office just made their position abundantly clear that he'd have to take a pay cut or be cut, so he took the pay cut. It's resolved now.

 

[massraider]

The fact that Grant had to take a paycut can only be good news for Starks

 

[Cookiemonster]

We used to plan to shed RBs who were turning 30, and in the last two years that seems to have shifted to 28. Grant, Gore, and SJax are almost being put out to pasture (and I understand that most here are arguing that Grant is no Gore or Jackson, and I agree). I wonder how much of that is MOP & SSOG and the dynasty heavy-hitters spreading their "exit value" measure of "3 years from now, what is his worth?" By that measure, maybe we should start looking to trade off Peterson and MJD who are 26. That's only 2 years away from 28!

I am one who thinks that Grant is the go-to RB this year, and without a huge timeshare. A RB on good team has value, and he is on what may be the best team offensively AND defensively in the league.

 

[TheFanatic]

So basically, the Packers floated a trial baloon to the media that they might have to cut Grant based on his salary. Grant see the story, freaks out, calls his agent, agent calls the Packers, we get a new deal done, and in the mean time we have message boards like this going nuts. This was nothing more than a negotiating technique. I think if Grant stuck to his guns he would still have the same salary. Seems after sitting in the trainers room for 15.5 regular season games he got nervous and let the Packers play him.

The supposed "leaked" story came out after the apparent restructuring.

Doesn't mean it wasn't leaked and the reporter took some time to try to corroborate the story with another source before he submitted it to be printed. Seems pretty ridiculous for him to publish after Grant got a million plus roster bonus and then restructured his deal which sort of negates the whole premise. Sounds like he sat on the info for too long and Grant got wind and got rid of the cap implication...

So it was leaked as a ploy...wasn't published yet...but Grant read the report that was not yet out for another week and renegotiated?its ok to admit your tinfoil hat theory was bogus...its alright.Better idea...perhaps the renegotiation simply was yet to be public knowledge...so they went with their report which was all speculative as it was.

I'm not saying Grant read the story and renegotiated. That would make no sense. They leak the story to the reporter. While the reporter is trying to vet the story, he asks a few players and maybe even Grant himself if management has come to him to renegotiate because he heard there was a chance he could be a cap casualty. Management could've also leaked it to a few people to leak to the reporter and Grant heard about it before the reporter did. I'm not saying this is what happened, as I don't know, but it sure seems like this was all a load of crap to get the guy to renegotiate. If he was at risk of being cut, why would they have the guy run with the first team and not work more on seeing Stark and Green run?They're pretty deep into TC, all rookies are signed, I believe, and there are no real FA's out there, so why the need to make a cap cut now? Why not threaten a cap cut in a rumor, let a guy nervous about missing all of last year and the team winning it all without him, who drafted a guy in the 3rd, know you're thinking of cutting him in order to save a couple mill? It's not so tin foil hat-ish as you think. Guys do this crap all the time. Do you really think Bellichek was going to cut Ocho Cinco and Haynesworth? That was the rumor last week, no way it was going to happen, but I bet Bellichek got exactly what he wanted from it, Chad and Albert in line and the rest of the team on eggshells thinking, "If he can cut those guys he can cut anybody." If you think a team using the media to send a message is just a crazy theory of mine, I have some ocean front property in Nebraska for you...

I think the team using a story that had not come out yet to send a message is a crazy theory yes.And you claim you are not saying he read the story...yet in your first theory...its right there "Grant see the story, freaks out".Though, what appears to have happened...they cut $1mil from his salary, guaranteed the rest of it (meaning he won't be cut and he gets the $2.5 mil this year...and he agreed.

Sees, hears, smells, whatever. Who friggin cares? The fact that the story of him possibly being cut comes out after he gets a roster bonus and renegotiates is pretty ridiculous timing unless the rumor had been out there for a little while before the reporter got it printed. The story is pretty much a non story at that time since he had just inked a deal that guaranteed him the money which means no way of getting cut. The timing fits. Packers leak a rumor that they need to cut Grant if they can't get some cost savings. A reporter gets wind and looks for secondary sources to check the validity, Grant gets a whiff of it, calls his agent and renegotiates to keep his job, the reporter finally gets it to press, and it's pretty much a non story because the guy now has guaranteed money for 2011. Why bother to print it at that point as it is clearly not a even a rumor anymore but a completely invalid statement that Grant may be cut.Not sure why I'm typing this. It's such a stupid thing to be arguing about...

 

[TheFanatic]

lol at ahman green not being a "franchise back."

That was my favorite football player for a while. Loved to watch that guy play. How many times in NFL history has a RB gotten 20 TD's?

 

[eakfootball]

Ryan Grant is on the cover of sporting news.

 

[VikingFrog]

"Ryan grant is on te cover of sporting news"

What are we supposed to glean from this?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

OLine in Green Bay is atrocious right now.

 

[eakfootball]

"Ryan grant is on te cover of sporting news"What are we supposed to glean from this?

It's just an odd choice by them.