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Go check some game threads, you'll see me posting before the game that the Giants had an excellent shot at winning the game and gave reasons why.Jessica Simpson wasn't one of them just like Tiki Barber isn't the reason why the Giants are now where they are at.Unless you believe the reason the Colts were beat by the Chargers was because Lt2 got hurt early, if you believe that then you probably believe the other things I mentioned.
I'll admit I'm a Romo hater. Well, I'm a Cowboys hater, so that makes me a Romo hater by extension. Anyways, I actually was impressed with Romo at some point this season, but that has all changed recently. What I've seen is a guy that is productive when everything is going well. He has protection and TO, watch out! But, what I've noticed the last few weeks, especially against Washington and New York, is he doesn't step into his throws when under pressure. There were several times in the 4th quarter Sunday when he could have bailed his team out by simply standing tall in the pocket and making a good throw under pressure. Instead, he lowers his front should, turns away from contact, and throws while falling backwards. I was really an amazing thing to see. The guy has shown me very little in the guts department.Like I said, he's lights out when things are going well. I'll even say he's really good when he's on the run. But, when he has pressure coming right at him and he can't make a quick escape, he cowers in fear and throws the ball off target. And, I loved every minute of it.
And you'd take Jason Campbell over him? Both have started about 2 years. Your 30 something backup outplayed him when it counted.
Irrelevant.
I agree that taking the trip, all things being equal, couldn't have helped. Anyone saying otherwise isn't being honest with themselves.
What is irrelevant is evaluating him vs. the Redskin game that didn't mean anything for the Cowboys. The game that counted....he tore them up.Romo took a lot of big hits in the 4th quarter of that game. I did see him stand up a few times and take the hit and he got hit plenty of times trying to throw and the ball either came up short or was completely off target because his arm was hit.He does have a tendency to throw a little off his back foot because he is scrambling a lot. One second he thinks of running and then may see a quick opening and then just throw the ball. That may be off his back foot, may be on the run, may be standing up protected in the pocket.He's not Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Farve....but I'm happy he's with the Cowboys. If we had Campbell we'd have to have all our receivers be 7 foot tall so that he doesn't overthrow every short to medium ranged pass.
Taking the trip SHOULDN'T have mattered. But it did. That's the long and short of it. Cabo was no more (and probably less) stressful than Brady heading down to NYC for the weekend with his girl, but the attention garnered by Romo and Jess going to Mexico (a different country!!!) obviously mattered to some people, to the press, to some fans... so it mattered.
I'll agree only that it didn't help with the media. In no way do I think it hurt his ability to perform in the game. So, I guess if you're afraid of the media and willing to let them run your life, then he should have stayed in his house and been a good boy.The guy went on a relaxing trip with a close playing friend and his girlfriend. The media made it out to be whatever it was. I'm actually glad he chose to do it because to me it shows he must have a thick skin and beats to a different drum. To be the QB of the Dallas Cowboys, you need to march to a different drum and you need to certainly have a thick skin.Will he choose to do something different next year, possibly. But in the end Tony made a decision and stood by it, so I stand by him. Again, I think if the rest of the Cowboy team would have performed as well as he did, they would have won the game.
See, now that is a relevant response (other than the mindless Campbell bashing).But, I see it differently. I didn't see him take a lot of big hits because he turns his shoulder and leans backwards to lessen the blow. He doesn't take a lot of big hits because he avoids them like the plague. And, while I remember his arm being hit some, I also remember some where he could have made a good throw if he had just stepped into it properly rather than worrying about the rush.It's something I've noticed about him and it's not good, IMO. That's all I'm saying. But, hey, congrats to him on that Cowboys single season completion record. Big stuff right there.
Huh? It matters to some people that Owens has a shaved head. So what?Brady going down to NYC mattered to his family.
I think you should try to avoid some of the big hits.I throw Campbell into the mix because you're a Redskin fan and Campbell's been starting for the same amount of time Romo has. The difference between the two is night and day IMO yet you find it easy to nitpick about Romo as if he was the problem Dallas lost.He didn't play a perfect game and doesn't have perfect mechanics, but the guy is a player. I guess I'll just stand behind that.
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I never said Romo was the reason they lost. It's a team game. I was simply responding to the bolded part above. I watched most of the game and I came away less impressed with Romo than I was before the game.
This thread needs to be put to death. Obviously Dallas didn't take the Giants seriously as they handed out Championship game tickets before the game which is about the dumbest thing I've ever seen. It was a team loss and pinning it on Romo or any other one particular person is even dumber. They lost, period. Nothing really to dissect, they simply took them too lightly and for that I'd have to blame the coaching staff for not having the team focused and ready to take care of business. The writing was on the wall with this team in the last few weeks of the season and as Phurfur said a lot of us pointed that out. When you look like garbage going into the playoffs, more often than not your going to look like garbage in the playoffs.
I totally agree. I am worried about losing our entire coaching staff and our entire scouting department.The thread was started by me in an attempt to vent a little about the disappointment and embarrassment I felt after the Cowboys lost to the NYG's. To me the loss was embarrassing. I still think Romo is a great QB and I am excited about the possibilities for next year. As a fan, I support them even in the not so jubilant times. They are a team on the upswing and I hope they can finish next season strong, as that has been their downfall 2 years running.I'm sure many Cowboys fans echo my sentiments, including embarrassment over a playoff loss the to Giants.This is something I expect only Cowboys fans to identify with or even understand.
He definitely lost his cool against the Giants, and that was the first time I've seen it happen. But I'd much rather have Tony Romo as my QB having learned that tough lesson than the vast majority of other projected starters in 2009. If I were building an NFL franchise right now, I could count on my hand the QBs I would rather have under center: Brady, Manning, Big Ben. That's about it.
If his play over the last three games is a good indicator of how he will play going forward, would you put Eli onto that list?
Well that's a huge IF. I'm not going to dismiss 3+ years of Eli Manning's body of work for a good three game stretch. I wouldn't, right now, consider Eli Manning among the top 10 NFL starters; either to build my team around or to win for one season. As usual people have a tendency to overrate the short term results and undervalue the long term evidence.
Although you shouldn't dismiss 3+ years of his body of work, what you should do is take into account when cosidering Eli's first few years of stats that playing QB in the NFL is perhaps the toughest job in professional sports. It's not that I'm ignoring the long term evidence, it's just that perhaps I draw different conclusions from it than you. What the long term evidence tells me is that Eli is a young and improving QB who has been very inconsistant, as many young QBs are, as he learns his job. He has had moments of brilliance and moments of incalculable ineptitude. Only the future will tell, but perhaps we aren't just seeing short term results but an NFL QB who is finally "getting it".Also, don't underestimate what those Eagle green glasses do to your view of Giants blue players either.
