pinda
Footballguy
could be another McNair situation or already be traded/released
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_footb...pper_no_lo.html
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_footb...pper_no_lo.html
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Devilsden2001
Footballguy
pinda
Footballguy
that's strange, when i click it again it works fine
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_footb...pper_no_lo.html
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content...g_practice.html
if it still doesn't work, check Profootballtalk and they have both links on their page.
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_footb...pper_no_lo.html
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content...g_practice.html
if it still doesn't work, check Profootballtalk and they have both links on their page.
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Devilsden2001
Footballguy
that time it worked thank you very much
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Culpepper is a whiny tool, but this move seems classless by the Dolphins organization.
Banger
Footballguy
unless they've dealt him....
FavreCo
Footballguy
The Dolphins have completely lost their minds. First they go get Culpepper instead of Brees. Then they draft Ted Ginn at #9 and in trying to make repairs to the damage they have caused, they sign a fossil like Trent Green with no backup plan.
They'll be picking top 10 for a few years.
They'll be picking top 10 for a few years.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
The only way this is not classless is if the head of security walks up to Culp and says, "we need you to exit the practice field because you are now part of the ___________ organization now." Which is what Culp wants anyway....
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Possibly. But in that case, I send someone out other than the head of security.
John Beck will be the QB sooner than you think.
I'll be the first one to admit that I thought C-Pep >> Brees last off-season since I figured the shoulder injury to Brees would have been more damaging to C-Pep's knee as a QB. Obviously, I was wrong.However, I have to agree the draft was a shocker.They didn't have a two this season, so the trade of Welker to the Pats essentially netted them John Beck (QB). I may be wrong, but I believe that if the had kept Walker, they wouldn't have taken Ginn and Quinn probably would have been the choice.I think the trade to get rid of Welker wasn't that bad; I'm surprised he netted them a 2nd. They could have done so much more with it though.To give the Dolphins a little credit, by the time they drafted in the second, all the good/decent WRs were off the board. The next two drafted were Jacoby Jones and Yamon Figures. So, it's not like they could have traded Welker, gone with Quinn in the first and got a WR like Rice, Smith, or Jarrett in the second.When judged ultimately, this draft for the Phins should be evaluated as:Welker & QuinnorGinn & BeckNot just Quinn or Ginn.
There it is
Footballguy
pinda. Thanks for posting this.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Did they have to escort him off because he knee is so blown he couldn't walk off under his own power?
Rotoworld says the he may be going to the jags
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Odd, now that C-Pepp is immobile he's basically Leftwich without the ability to read a defense.Seems like a bad fit, doubt the Jags would want Leftwich minus the brain.
moleculo
Footballguy
I think that this is a good perspective, and makes a lot of sense.
Superbowl Shuffle
Footballguy
Doesn't it make sense that they escorted him out to eliminate the risk he took part in activities and injured himself, thus preventing the Dolphins from releasing him and forcing them to keep his $5M+ salary on the books?
They weren't keeping him one way or another. Since a trade hadn't been worked out before practice started, he had to go. It's just business.
They weren't keeping him one way or another. Since a trade hadn't been worked out before practice started, he had to go. It's just business.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Awful strong opinion to have without having any of the facts
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
If there wasn't a trade, the Dolphins will end up getting into trouble for this. They can not bar a player under contract from practicing and working out. The Titans did the same thing last year with McNair and got in trouble for it.
-OZ-
Footballguy
True, but I get the feeling that Craig Davis, Anthony Gonzalez or Robert Meachem would have fallen to them, or maybe Ginn would have
So, it's basically Beck and Ginn vs. one of those 3 and Quinn.Or maybe Poslovsky or Zach Miller would have fallen... you just can't know at this point.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Weren't the Dolphins essentially in the same scenario a week earlier with Trent Green?
pinda
Footballguy
Could be Quinn and Sidney Rice too.
What are you talking about... The Phins used their own 2nd on Beck. The 2nd for Welker was used on Samson Satele. So what are you talking about???
You're right, my mistake... throw that theory out the window.
pinda
Footballguy
That's why I think a stronger comparison would beQuinn and Ricevs.Ginn and BeckWelker for a 2nd rounder would have happened anyway and doesn't need to be factored in.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That's why I said "seems" instead of "is". HTH
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This quote from Cameron seems like a trade is coming:
Dolphins coach Cam Cameron said he couldn't discuss the matter at this time.
"Right now I have no comment because there are things that we are currently working on," Cameron said. "Things that if I made a comment, it could put those things in jeopardy. So for right now, I have no comment."
A release cant be in jeopardy,so it looks like a trade.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/cont...8culpepper.html
Dolphins coach Cam Cameron said he couldn't discuss the matter at this time.
"Right now I have no comment because there are things that we are currently working on," Cameron said. "Things that if I made a comment, it could put those things in jeopardy. So for right now, I have no comment."
A release cant be in jeopardy,so it looks like a trade.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/cont...8culpepper.html
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Sorry, but to me this is a flawed argument.If the Dolphins take Quinn at 9, they still need a WR.
So - they could have had the best WR available at the pick that they used for Beck. That could have been Sidney Rice, Dwayne Jarrett or Steve Smith.
So to extend this thought, you have to look at:
Welker & Quinn
or
Ginn & Beck
OR....
Quinn & Sidney Rice
OR
Quinn & Jarrett
OR
Quinn & Steve Smith
Not just Quinn or Ginn.
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Agree; mostly...You're correct that regardless of the Welker deal, the Dolphins still could have drafted Quinn & Rice/Jarrett. But don't you think that the trading of Welker had a significant impact on their decision to draft Ginn, whch actually makes it worse.Had they kept Welker, they wouldn't have had such a need for another WR and could have drafted Quinn in the first and the BPA with their single second rounder (maybe WR, maybe not).That's why I think a stronger comparison would beQuinn and Ricevs.Ginn and BeckWelker for a 2nd rounder would have happened anyway and doesn't need to be factored in.:X You're right, my mistake... throw that theory out the window.
What are you talking about... The Phins used their own 2nd on Beck. The 2nd for Welker was used on Samson Satele. So what are you talking about???
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
What "seems" classless about it? If they are trading or releasing the player, wouldn't it make sense to pull him off the field?
Silver & Black
Footballguy
Just read this on the hotwire.
Dolphins | Culpepper to block any trade
Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:35:56 -0700
Alex Marvez, of the Sun-Sentinel, reports Miami Dolphins QB Daunte Culpepper will refuse to restructure his contract, which would essentially block the team from trading him. Culpepper is set to earn $5.5 million in base salary in 2007. "They're going to do what's best for them. Obviously, I'm going to do in my opinion what's best for me," Culpepper said. "I'm going to work out every day I'm here and continue to get myself healthier and physically better the best way I can." Culpepper has been barred from practice with the exception of one-on-one drills.
Maybe he was being escorted off the field because he was being cut after all.
Dolphins | Culpepper to block any trade
Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:35:56 -0700
Alex Marvez, of the Sun-Sentinel, reports Miami Dolphins QB Daunte Culpepper will refuse to restructure his contract, which would essentially block the team from trading him. Culpepper is set to earn $5.5 million in base salary in 2007. "They're going to do what's best for them. Obviously, I'm going to do in my opinion what's best for me," Culpepper said. "I'm going to work out every day I'm here and continue to get myself healthier and physically better the best way I can." Culpepper has been barred from practice with the exception of one-on-one drills.
Maybe he was being escorted off the field because he was being cut after all.
Traders2001
Footballguy
Ginn would have still been ther in the early third round .True, but I get the feeling that Craig Davis, Anthony Gonzalez or Robert Meachem would have fallen to them, or maybe Ginn would have
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Seemed goofy sending out "security". Were they anticipating some sort of conflict?What "seems" classless about it? If they are trading or releasing the player, wouldn't it make sense to pull him off the field?
Silver & Black
Footballguy
You never know. And CPep is a big boy.Bah. He would be happy as a clam if he were to get released. He would then control where he lands to a much larger degree than he does now.Seemed goofy sending out "security". Were they anticipating some sort of conflict?What "seems" classless about it? If they are trading or releasing the player, wouldn't it make sense to pull him off the field?
Steve in Minneapolis
Footballguy
One of those blogs mentioned that C-Pep needed to get back into the lockerroom during practice. The lockerroom is locked while the team is practicing which would explain why he went in with security...
ESPN's ticker just listed that Culpepper is 'aggressively' asking for his release...whatever theat means
and then they had a list of potential trade partners and it included the Jags and the Vikings...and one other team that I missed... The Vikings??? I don't know if I should
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ESPN's ticker just listed that Culpepper is 'aggressively' asking for his release...whatever theat means
and then they had a list of potential trade partners and it included the Jags and the Vikings...and one other team that I missed... The Vikings??? I don't know if I should
or Ginn wouldnt have lasted 10 more picks if Miami doesnt draft him.Ginn would have still been ther in the early third round .True, but I get the feeling that Craig Davis, Anthony Gonzalez or Robert Meachem would have fallen to them, or maybe Ginn would have
That's a good point except for the issue of his contract. If he gets traded, the new team has to pick up his contract. If he gets released, it's true that he will have more control over where he lands, but he is likely to have to sign for a lot less $$$$You never know. And CPep is a big boy.Bah. He would be happy as a clam if he were to get released. He would then control where he lands to a much larger degree than he does now.Seemed goofy sending out "security". Were they anticipating some sort of conflict?What "seems" classless about it? If they are trading or releasing the player, wouldn't it make sense to pull him off the field?
msommer
Footballguy
Maybe he was threatening to go out there with the purpose of getting injured - so they would have to guarantee his salary of 5.5M - as part of aggressively pursuing getting releasedSeemed goofy sending out "security". Were they anticipating some sort of conflict?What "seems" classless about it? If they are trading or releasing the player, wouldn't it make sense to pull him off the field?
massraider
Footballguy
Well, we don't know that. But we do know that Quinn would have lasted almost 15 more picks, making him a reach at #9.Ginn would have still been ther in the early third round .True, but I get the feeling that Craig Davis, Anthony Gonzalez or Robert Meachem would have fallen to them, or maybe Ginn would haveSo, it's basically Beck and Ginn vs. one of those 3 and Quinn.Or maybe Poslovsky or Zach Miller would have fallen... you just can't know at this point.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
The dolphins have turned into a garbage can organization.
kensat30
Footballguy
If I was the Dolphin's I wouldn't release Culpepper until the last possible moment. Not only does it not make sense from a front office perspective to release him without getting anything in return, but I would want to stick it to the guy for being stupid.
Why would you flat out say that you are unwilling to restructure, basically sticking it in the face of the team that holds your contract? He's giving the team no outs in trading him, so why should he expect them to give him the courtesy of releasing him early to do him a favor?
Why would you flat out say that you are unwilling to restructure, basically sticking it in the face of the team that holds your contract? He's giving the team no outs in trading him, so why should he expect them to give him the courtesy of releasing him early to do him a favor?
Vikes Fan
Footballguy
No way! He has burned way too many bridges in MN with the Fans, the media, not to mention Childress and the resst of the coaches. No way he will wind up back here.I think Jax is more likely because of the Tice connection. But, actually, I think KC would be a decent spot for him too. Anywhere he goes, I would think he will be nothing more than a backup. He has never made good decisions, and he reportedly has small hands which is why he fumbles so much. Another decent spot would be Baltimore. Just some thoughts.One of those blogs mentioned that C-Pep needed to get back into the lockerroom during practice. The lockerroom is locked while the team is practicing which would explain why he went in with security...ESPN's ticker just listed that Culpepper is 'aggressively' asking for his release...whatever theat means
Isn't that the same thing Trent Green did with KC, after he worked out his deal with the Dolphins?
Billy1x
Footballguy
The Titans should sign him ASAP. Young has the Madden curse and will likely go down in one of he first couple games.Vikes Fan said:No way! He has burned way too many bridges in MN with the Fans, the media, not to mention Childress and the resst of the coaches. No way he will wind up back here.I think Jax is more likely because of the Tice connection. But, actually, I think KC would be a decent spot for him too. Anywhere he goes, I would think he will be nothing more than a backup. He has never made good decisions, and he reportedly has small hands which is why he fumbles so much. Another decent spot would be Baltimore. Just some thoughts.Steve in Minneapolis said:One of those blogs mentioned that C-Pep needed to get back into the lockerroom during practice. The lockerroom is locked while the team is practicing which would explain why he went in with security...ESPN's ticker just listed that Culpepper is 'aggressively' asking for his release...whatever theat means <_< and then they had a list of potential trade partners and it included the Jags and the Vikings...and one other team that I missed... The Vikings??? I don't know if I shouldor :X
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Classless by Miami
I am very disappointed as a Miami Dolphins fan and this organization really seems like it might not have hit rock bottom yet and that is scary.
I am very disappointed as a Miami Dolphins fan and this organization really seems like it might not have hit rock bottom yet and that is scary.
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