The Big 5 QBs (1 Viewer)

[kyoun1e]

Hurts, Mahommes, L. Jackson, J. Allen, A. Richardson.

All of them are surprisingly going in a bunch in the fourth round (ish). Seems to hard to pass up.

Assuming 4 pts per passing TD and 6 pts per rushing and no other bonuses, how are you ranking them?

I'll take a shot:

1. J. Hurts - Rushing potential undeniable. Camp reports outstanding.
2. P. Mahommes - Big rebound year. Feels like it could be a historic P. Manning type year with new toys X. Worthy and Hollywood Brown (when healthy).
3. L. Jackson - Another year in the Monken offense. Another year of maturity with Z. Flowers. Andrews healthy and I. Likely added to the mix.
4. J. Allen -- Feel like this offense could be a bit clunkier than usual with the Diggs and G. Davis departure.
5. A. Richardson -- Think he'll be a bit more volatile as he learns the position.

Thoughts?

Anyone jump into this mix?

K. Murray? Could be worth waiting another round or 2, but then again could get sniped.

CJ? Could light it up, but no running value.

J. Daniels? Still nervous he's going to get his block knocked off.

 

[farfromforgotten]

I’ve got Allen and Mahomes close, followed by Hurts and Jackson close, then Richardson, with Murray not too far behind him.

In the FBG mock earlier today I actually nabbed Richardson in the 7th as I felt that was amazing value. In most of the mocks I’ve completed, albeit vs the computer, he is long gone by then and I typically end up with Murray in round 6 or 7. In that mock they went as follows: Allen 4.1, Mahomes 4.12, Jackson 5.11, Hurts 6.3, Richardson 7.2, Murray 9.3.

 

[kyoun1e]

I’ve got Allen and Mahomes close, followed by Hurts and Jackson close, then Richardson, with Murray not too far behind him.

In the FBG mock earlier today I actually nabbed Richardson in the 7th as I felt that was amazing value. In most of the mocks I’ve completed, albeit vs the computer, he is long gone by then and I typically end up with Murray in round 6 or 7. In that mock they went as follows: Allen 4.1, Mahomes 4.12, Jackson 5.11, Hurts 6.3, Richardson 7.2, Murray 9.3.

I don't understand how Allen is at the top of the heap in most rankings.

I guess most think Allen is just going to put the whole team on his shoulders and go bezerk. Possible I guess.

Hurts with superior weapons and the unstopable tush push.

Murray's ADP is on the rise for sure. He may not be far behind these 5.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The only thing I'm not sure about Hurts is whether the tush push continues at the same rate with HOF center Kelce now retired.

 

[farfromforgotten]

I’ve got Allen and Mahomes close, followed by Hurts and Jackson close, then Richardson, with Murray not too far behind him.

In the FBG mock earlier today I actually nabbed Richardson in the 7th as I felt that was amazing value. In most of the mocks I’ve completed, albeit vs the computer, he is long gone by then and I typically end up with Murray in round 6 or 7. In that mock they went as follows: Allen 4.1, Mahomes 4.12, Jackson 5.11, Hurts 6.3, Richardson 7.2, Murray 9.3.

I don't understand how Allen is at the top of the heap in most rankings.

I guess most think Allen is just going to put the whole team on his shoulders and go bezerk. Possible I guess.

Hurts with superior weapons and the unstopable tush push.

Murray's ADP is on the rise for sure. He may not be far behind these 5.

It’s a fair assessment of the situation. With Hurts it comes down to the Eagles looking like a shell of themselves after some team pasted them week 13 last year and then Kelce retiring on top of that. I feel most comfortable with Mahomes of the top group but I don’t plan on being the first one to take a QB. If Jackson or Richardson slide I would select them. I really like waiting to be the one to get Murray this year however.

 

[kyoun1e]

I’ve got Allen and Mahomes close, followed by Hurts and Jackson close, then Richardson, with Murray not too far behind him.

In the FBG mock earlier today I actually nabbed Richardson in the 7th as I felt that was amazing value. In most of the mocks I’ve completed, albeit vs the computer, he is long gone by then and I typically end up with Murray in round 6 or 7. In that mock they went as follows: Allen 4.1, Mahomes 4.12, Jackson 5.11, Hurts 6.3, Richardson 7.2, Murray 9.3.

I don't understand how Allen is at the top of the heap in most rankings.

I guess most think Allen is just going to put the whole team on his shoulders and go bezerk. Possible I guess.

Hurts with superior weapons and the unstopable tush push.

Murray's ADP is on the rise for sure. He may not be far behind these 5.

It’s a fair assessment of the situation. With Hurts it comes down to the Eagles looking like a shell of themselves after some team pasted them week 13 last year and then Kelce retiring on top of that. I feel most comfortable with Mahomes of the top group but I don’t plan on being the first one to take a QB. If Jackson or Richardson slide I would select them. I really like waiting to be the one to get Murray this year however.

If crazy value drops to me in this area, that's when I'll bypass all these QBs and hope for Murray.

Unfortunately, what keeps taking place when this happens is I then slip into this QB snowballing situation where I miss out on Murray...then Love...then Daniels.

The top 5 are there for the taking. Every. Single. Mock.

 

[JohnnyU]

If AR doesn’t start being more accurate I’ll spontaneously combust. I’ll just burst into flames.

 

[Chaka]

Anyone jump into this mix?

Burrow shouldn't be ignored. Same with Dak. I also think Love could make the jump.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Anyone jump into this mix?

Burrow shouldn't be ignored. Same with Dak. I also think Love could make the jump.

Stroud has to be mentioned if we’re mentioning those guys. Opinion me, of course. One of the best rookie seasons we’ve ever seen and the offense just got better.

 

[Chaka]

Anyone jump into this mix?

Burrow shouldn't be ignored. Same with Dak. I also think Love could make the jump.

Stroud has to be mentioned if we’re mentioning those guys. Opinion me, of course. One of the best rookie seasons we’ve ever seen and the offense just got better.

Yeah, i considered him but he doesn't seem like a guy who can score 3-5 TDs on the ground. He's mobile enough but the team doesn't seem that interested in letting him do that.

Dak probably doesn't have that upside either anymore but I think they have lesser options in the running game so there may be more scramble opportunities near the GL in what I expect to be a pass heavy approach.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Regardless, I am waiting on QB until quite late.

 

[Zow]

Agree with the top 4 (though, depending on format, I like Allen as #1). Richardson's ceiling is obviously there but he still really makes me nervous as we saw six games from him last year. As such, I don't have him in the top tier and would consider Dak or Stroud over him. In other words, I probably won't be getting Richardson in any drafts this year.

 

[Snoopy]

I thought you were talking about the likes ok JaMarcus Russell or Jared Lorenzen.

 

[kyoun1e]

Regardless, I am waiting on QB until quite late.

The latest I want to wait is Daniels and C. Williams. I want that rushing factor.

If you miss on those two I feel like you're a bit screwed. Those two usually go #11 and #12 so the last teams looking for QBs usually reach a bit for them (and the buzz on these two doesn't help either).

If you whiff there, you're then stuck with Goff/Tua/Lawrence/Whoever. No interest. You're basically going to stream the position all year.

That's why if you skip the Big 5, miss on K. Murray and forgo Stroud/Dak/ Burrow it can become a slippery slope quick.

 

[Crazy8s__]

I was extremely lucky to get Daniels as the 9th QB off the board. Surprisingly backed him up with Dak. Shocked.

 

[JohnnyU]

I thought you were talking about the likes ok JaMarcus Russell or Jared Lorenzen.

RIP The Hefty Lefty, The Pillsbury Throwboy, The Abominable Throwman, J-Load.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What's wrong with 4,500 yds passing and 30 TDs Pass?
What if you get 2 of them after say the 8th-9th round? You would already be loaded at WR-RB and likely already have a strong TE option

The 2 QBs I am talking about go QB14 and QB15 off the board.
I think its absolutely Bananas to take a rookie QB over proven established QBs that aren't even old especially those that run explosive offenses

If you are going QB in the first 5-6 rounds, the correct answer is CJStroud

 

[Doubles]

Regardless, I am waiting on QB until quite late.

The latest I want to wait is Daniels and C. Williams. I want that rushing factor.

If you miss on those two I feel like you're a bit screwed. Those two usually go #11 and #12 so the last teams looking for QBs usually reach a bit for them (and the buzz on these two doesn't help either).

If you whiff there, you're then stuck with Goff/Tua/Lawrence/Whoever. No interest. You're basically going to stream the position all year.

That's why if you skip the Big 5, miss on K. Murray and forgo Stroud/Dak/ Burrow it can become a slippery slope quick.

Seriously. In mocks I just get anxious I’m going to miss out on one of those two (Daniel’s/Williams) in my 12 man important league.

 

[travdogg]

I'm not sure a QB screams bust more than Richardson this year. The fact he's even going within 15 picks of Josh Allen seems ludicrous to me. If you wanna take a top-5 QB, I think the best plan is to just jump a round early and make sure you get Allen or Hurts.

As an aside, I think Murray is overrated too. He's been going in round 5 in recent drafts, and that feels like a ceiling. Especially when Joe Burrow is consistently there in round 7. I think Burrow might be the best QB value right now, as a guy with a proven elite ceiling, with top weapons, and an ADP outside the top 60.

 

[Chardo1]

I’ve got Allen and Mahomes close, followed by Hurts and Jackson close, then Richardson, with Murray not too far behind him.

In the FBG mock earlier today I actually nabbed Richardson in the 7th as I felt that was amazing value. In most of the mocks I’ve completed, albeit vs the computer, he is long gone by then and I typically end up with Murray in round 6 or 7. In that mock they went as follows: Allen 4.1, Mahomes 4.12, Jackson 5.11, Hurts 6.3, Richardson 7.2, Murray 9.3.

I don't understand how Allen is at the top of the heap in most rankings.

I guess most think Allen is just going to put the whole team on his shoulders and go bezerk. Possible I guess.

Hurts with superior weapons and the unstopable tush push.

Murray's ADP is on the rise for sure. He may not be far behind these 5.

Maybe because finished #1 each of the last 3 seasons.

 

[Chardo1]

Pass on all of those and grab Jordan Love later. He'll be one of them.

 

[kyoun1e]

Pass on all of those and grab Jordan Love later. He'll be one of them.

He's definitely one of my fallback options. He's got the weapons. However, could see GB having a balanced attack with Jacobs. Not sure they'll be in shootout mode often.

 

[need2know]

The only thing I'm not sure about Hurts is whether the tush push continues at the same rate with HOF center Kelce now retired.

Also new OC may not call it much. Just dont know

 

[FarFromHome]

The only thing I'm not sure about Hurts is whether the tush push continues at the same rate with HOF center Kelce now retired.

Also new OC may not call it much. Just dont know

Even if you ran a Jerry Glanville run and shoot offense, you'd think you would understand how ridiculously efficient the play is. And use it.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I do love this topic, maybe I can play a game here to show how I feel about all the QBs

1- Josh Allen, I'm taking the under that he won't be the No 1 QB in FF this year, too many new pieces
2- Patrick Mahomes, I'll take the under since he can only finish 1 or 2 in order to justify the selection so I'll take the under but he could still finish Top 5.
3- Jalen Hurts, has yet to hit 4,000 yds passing, think his running game and rush TD will be slimmed down, take the under here but I like him
4- Lamar Jackson, still gotta take the under here
5- CJ Stroud, I'll take the over that he can finish Top 4-5 at QB, worth the pick
6- Anthony Richardson, Take the under 3 ways to Sunday
7- Joe Burrow, if healthy I will take the over, he's a Top 5 FF QB most weeks. Must stay healthy and that's the risk in Cinci, hasn't finish 2 of his 4 seasons
8- Jordan Love, taking the under on this one
9- Kyler Murray, he could back door his way into a Top 10 season but I'll take the under, not a fan of his game
10-Dak Prescott, OVER! And he's done it already in 2 of the last 3 seasons
11-Brock Purdy, Taking the under
12- Jayden Daniels, rookies have a tough time typically, I do think he can hover around this area but my gut say take the under on him
13- Caleb Williams, I'll take the over because I went under with Daniels, Williams has a lot to work with but don't get Delusions of Grandeur here.
14- Jared Goff - Over!
15- Tua Tags - Over!
16 - Trevor Lawrence - Over!
17 - Justin Herbert - Over only because he's being projected so low...still doesn't look very good
18- Aaron Rodgers - If he's healthy he should easily cruise into the Top 15, over but not as enthusiastically as others
19- Kirk Cousins - Under mostly because he's matched up with all new skill players and he has an 8th overall pick at QB breathing down his neck
20- Matt Stafford - Over!
21- Deshaun Watson -Over!

 

[msudaisy26]

If AR doesn’t start being more accurate I’ll spontaneously combust. I’ll just burst into flames.

Is it because AR has a cannon for an arm, but is more likely to hit you with the ball instead of his intended target?

 

[Chardo1]

The only thing I'm not sure about Hurts is whether the tush push continues at the same rate with HOF center Kelce now retired.

Also new OC may not call it much. Just dont know

Even if you ran a Jerry Glanville run and shoot offense, you'd think you would understand how ridiculously efficient the play is. And use it.

And is it really more of an injury risk? Any examples of a QB who got injured on a sneak?

 

[VikingFrog]

I do love this topic, maybe I can play a game here to show how I feel about all the QBs

1- Josh Allen, I'm taking the under that he won't be the No 1 QB in FF this year, too many new pieces
2- Patrick Mahomes, I'll take the under since he can only finish 1 or 2 in order to justify the selection so I'll take the under but he could still finish Top 5.
3- Jalen Hurts, has yet to hit 4,000 yds passing, think his running game and rush TD will be slimmed down, take the under here but I like him
4- Lamar Jackson, still gotta take the under here
5- CJ Stroud, I'll take the over that he can finish Top 4-5 at QB, worth the pick
6- Anthony Richardson, Take the under 3 ways to Sunday
7- Joe Burrow, if healthy I will take the over, he's a Top 5 FF QB most weeks. Must stay healthy and that's the risk in Cinci, hasn't finish 2 of his 4 seasons
8- Jordan Love, taking the under on this one
9- Kyler Murray, he could back door his way into a Top 10 season but I'll take the under, not a fan of his game
10-Dak Prescott, OVER! And he's done it already in 2 of the last 3 seasons
11-Brock Purdy, Taking the under
12- Jayden Daniels, rookies have a tough time typically, I do think he can hover around this area but my gut say take the under on him
13- Caleb Williams, I'll take the over because I went under with Daniels, Williams has a lot to work with but don't get Delusions of Grandeur here.
14- Jared Goff - Over!
15- Tua Tags - Over!
16 - Trevor Lawrence - Over!
17 - Justin Herbert - Over only because he's being projected so low...still doesn't look very good
18- Aaron Rodgers - If he's healthy he should easily cruise into the Top 15, over but not as enthusiastically as others
19- Kirk Cousins - Under mostly because he's matched up with all new skill players and he has an 8th overall pick at QB breathing down his neck
20- Matt Stafford - Over!
21- Deshaun Watson -Over!

I overspent early at skill positions in SuperFlex auction and ended up with Herbert, Stafford and Watson for cheap.

I approve this comment!

 

[Grahamburn]

I’ve got Allen and Mahomes close, followed by Hurts and Jackson close, then Richardson, with Murray not too far behind him.

In the FBG mock earlier today I actually nabbed Richardson in the 7th as I felt that was amazing value. In most of the mocks I’ve completed, albeit vs the computer, he is long gone by then and I typically end up with Murray in round 6 or 7. In that mock they went as follows: Allen 4.1, Mahomes 4.12, Jackson 5.11, Hurts 6.3, Richardson 7.2, Murray 9.3.

Hurts with superior weapons and the unstopable tush push.

Vea stopped it.

Do we think they’ll still run it without Kelce? Or is it more of a Hurts special than o-line dependent.

 

[Judge Smails]

What's wrong with 4,500 yds passing and 30 TDs Pass?
What if you get 2 of them after say the 8th-9th round? You would already be loaded at WR-RB and likely already have a strong TE option

The 2 QBs I am talking about go QB14 and QB15 off the board.
I think its absolutely Bananas to take a rookie QB over proven established QBs that aren't even old especially those that run explosive offenses

If you are going QB in the first 5-6 rounds, the correct answer is CJStroud

I agree. I’m in a 6 point TD league with 300 yard passing bonuses, so I’ve got others in my sight

 

[Grahamburn]

What's wrong with 4,500 yds passing and 30 TDs Pass?
What if you get 2 of them after say the 8th-9th round? You would already be loaded at WR-RB and likely already have a strong TE option

The 2 QBs I am talking about go QB14 and QB15 off the board.
I think its absolutely Bananas to take a rookie QB over proven established QBs that aren't even old especially those that run explosive offenses

If you are going QB in the first 5-6 rounds, the correct answer is CJStroud

I agree. I’m in a 6 point TD league with 300 yard passing bonuses, so I’ve got others in my sight

I’m biased, but Baker Mayfield is going to have a nice season, and I imagine he’ll go rather late in fantasy drafts.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What's wrong with 4,500 yds passing and 30 TDs Pass?
What if you get 2 of them after say the 8th-9th round? You would already be loaded at WR-RB and likely already have a strong TE option

The 2 QBs I am talking about go QB14 and QB15 off the board.
I think its absolutely Bananas to take a rookie QB over proven established QBs that aren't even old especially those that run explosive offenses

If you are going QB in the first 5-6 rounds, the correct answer is CJStroud

I agree. I’m in a 6 point TD league with 300 yard passing bonuses, so I’ve got others in my sight

I’m biased, but Baker Mayfield is going to have a nice season, and I imagine he’ll go rather late in fantasy drafts.

4,000+ yds and 28 Pass/1Rush, definitely caught my attention and dear JC I root for this team.
That was the most passing yds he's ever had in the NFL, he has thrown 26 and 27 TDs in his career but that only would point to consistency, something I chastise him for
I just always hate the starting QB for my team
Great post and you're right, he should be put into the discussion for terrific QB2 options

 

[Grahamburn]

What's wrong with 4,500 yds passing and 30 TDs Pass?
What if you get 2 of them after say the 8th-9th round? You would already be loaded at WR-RB and likely already have a strong TE option

The 2 QBs I am talking about go QB14 and QB15 off the board.
I think its absolutely Bananas to take a rookie QB over proven established QBs that aren't even old especially those that run explosive offenses

If you are going QB in the first 5-6 rounds, the correct answer is CJStroud

I agree. I’m in a 6 point TD league with 300 yard passing bonuses, so I’ve got others in my sight

I’m biased, but Baker Mayfield is going to have a nice season, and I imagine he’ll go rather late in fantasy drafts.

4,000+ yds and 28 Pass/1Rush, definitely caught my attention and dear JC I root for this team.
That was the most passing yds he's ever had in the NFL, he has thrown 26 and 27 TDs in his career but that only would point to consistency, something I chastise him for
I just always hate the starting QB for my team
Great post and you're right, he should be put into the discussion for terrific QB2 options

Lot of people sleeping on the Bucs’ offense.

 

[kyoun1e]

What's wrong with 4,500 yds passing and 30 TDs Pass?
What if you get 2 of them after say the 8th-9th round? You would already be loaded at WR-RB and likely already have a strong TE option

The 2 QBs I am talking about go QB14 and QB15 off the board.
I think its absolutely Bananas to take a rookie QB over proven established QBs that aren't even old especially those that run explosive offenses

If you are going QB in the first 5-6 rounds, the correct answer is CJStroud

Why do I feel like Stroud is going to have a Peyton Manning esque season and throw 50 TDs?

Stroud was unstoppable down the stretch last year and he was minus T. Dell. Now he has Dell back AND Diggs?

Mercy.

Have a draft tonight and may consider Stroud in the 5th if Allen/Hurts/Lamar/Mahomes gone because he's not getting back to me.

 

[kyoun1e]

I do love this topic, maybe I can play a game here to show how I feel about all the QBs

1- Josh Allen, I'm taking the under that he won't be the No 1 QB in FF this year, too many new pieces
2- Patrick Mahomes, I'll take the under since he can only finish 1 or 2 in order to justify the selection so I'll take the under but he could still finish Top 5.
3- Jalen Hurts, has yet to hit 4,000 yds passing, think his running game and rush TD will be slimmed down, take the under here but I like him
4- Lamar Jackson, still gotta take the under here
5- CJ Stroud, I'll take the over that he can finish Top 4-5 at QB, worth the pick
6- Anthony Richardson, Take the under 3 ways to Sunday
7- Joe Burrow, if healthy I will take the over, he's a Top 5 FF QB most weeks. Must stay healthy and that's the risk in Cinci, hasn't finish 2 of his 4 seasons
8- Jordan Love, taking the under on this one
9- Kyler Murray, he could back door his way into a Top 10 season but I'll take the under, not a fan of his game
10-Dak Prescott, OVER! And he's done it already in 2 of the last 3 seasons
11-Brock Purdy, Taking the under
12- Jayden Daniels, rookies have a tough time typically, I do think he can hover around this area but my gut say take the under on him
13- Caleb Williams, I'll take the over because I went under with Daniels, Williams has a lot to work with but don't get Delusions of Grandeur here.
14- Jared Goff - Over!
15- Tua Tags - Over!
16 - Trevor Lawrence - Over!
17 - Justin Herbert - Over only because he's being projected so low...still doesn't look very good
18- Aaron Rodgers - If he's healthy he should easily cruise into the Top 15, over but not as enthusiastically as others
19- Kirk Cousins - Under mostly because he's matched up with all new skill players and he has an 8th overall pick at QB breathing down his neck
20- Matt Stafford - Over!
21- Deshaun Watson -Over!

You are convincing me on Stroud...

 

[Brunell4MVP]

1. Lamar Jackson
2. Tua Tagovaloa
3. Pat Mahomes
4. CJ Stroud
5. Dak Prescott


I'll say it ... I don't think Hurts or Allen will be a top 10 QB this year. Just a hunch.

 

[Gally]

No way I risk taking AR as high as he is going. I don't see him in the conversation at this point. I agree the upside is tremendous but the risk is too big for me. I would rather wait and take Burrow/Stroud/Kyler/Dak

 

[Manster]

What's wrong with 4,500 yds passing and 30 TDs Pass?
What if you get 2 of them after say the 8th-9th round? You would already be loaded at WR-RB and likely already have a strong TE option

The 2 QBs I am talking about go QB14 and QB15 off the board.
I think its absolutely Bananas to take a rookie QB over proven established QBs that aren't even old especially those that run explosive offenses

If you are going QB in the first 5-6 rounds, the correct answer is CJStroud

I agree. I’m in a 6 point TD league with 300 yard passing bonuses, so I’ve got others in my sight

I’m biased, but Baker Mayfield is going to have a nice season, and I imagine he’ll go rather late in fantasy drafts.

4,000+ yds and 28 Pass/1Rush, definitely caught my attention and dear JC I root for this team.
That was the most passing yds he's ever had in the NFL, he has thrown 26 and 27 TDs in his career but that only would point to consistency, something I chastise him for
I just always hate the starting QB for my team
Great post and you're right, he should be put into the discussion for terrific QB2 options

Lot of people sleeping on the Bucs’ offense.

Start 2 QB league I got Mayfield as my QB3 (Mahomes and Love are my other two) over the likes of Goff, Rodgers, Daniels, Caleb.......I'm totally happy with my decision. Fwiw, this league is heavy on distance TD bonuses, so Mayfield running around chucking it a good thing.

 

[Anarchy99]

Top fantasy 25 QBs over the past 4 years based on ppg:

01 - Josh Allen - 27.48
02 - Patrick Mahomes - 25.68
03 - Kyler Murray - 24.11
04 - Lamar Jackson - 23.85
05 - Dak Prescott - 23.63
06 - Tom Brady - 23.52
07 - Justin Herbert - 23.10
08 - Deshaun Watson - 22.50
09 - Joe Burrow - 22.31
10 - Aaron Rodgers - 22.08
11 - Kirk Cousins - 21.97
12 - C.J. Stroub - 21.81
13 - Jalen Hurts - 21.62
14 - Russell Wilson - 21.29
15 - Drew Brees - 20.74
16 - Matthew Stafford - 19.96
17 - Jared Goff - 19.47
18 - Justin Fields - 19.24
19 - Brock Purdy - 19.10
20 - Geno Smith - 19.05
21 - Trevor Lawrence - 18.88
22 - Ben Roethlisberger - 18.86
23 - Derek Carr - 18.82
24 - Sam Howell - 18.77
25 - Tua Tagovailoa - 18.74

 

[Manster]

No way I risk taking AR as high as he is going. I don't see him in the conversation at this point. I agree the upside is tremendous but the risk is too big for me. I would rather wait and take Burrow/Stroud/Kyler/Dak

I really like Burrow/Murray this season. Both slightly underrated, imo.

 

[packdog]

dak is such a value it's criminal. the cowboys are gonna pass, pass again, then pass some more. vegas has dak as the qb5 overall this year. the fact you could have got him consistently as the qb 8-10 in drafts in anywhere from the 9th-11th round is robbery

 

[Grahamburn]

What's wrong with 4,500 yds passing and 30 TDs Pass?
What if you get 2 of them after say the 8th-9th round? You would already be loaded at WR-RB and likely already have a strong TE option

The 2 QBs I am talking about go QB14 and QB15 off the board.
I think its absolutely Bananas to take a rookie QB over proven established QBs that aren't even old especially those that run explosive offenses

If you are going QB in the first 5-6 rounds, the correct answer is CJStroud

I agree. I’m in a 6 point TD league with 300 yard passing bonuses, so I’ve got others in my sight

I’m biased, but Baker Mayfield is going to have a nice season, and I imagine he’ll go rather late in fantasy drafts.

4,000+ yds and 28 Pass/1Rush, definitely caught my attention and dear JC I root for this team.
That was the most passing yds he's ever had in the NFL, he has thrown 26 and 27 TDs in his career but that only would point to consistency, something I chastise him for
I just always hate the starting QB for my team
Great post and you're right, he should be put into the discussion for terrific QB2 options

Lot of people sleeping on the Bucs’ offense.

Start 2 QB league I got Mayfield as my QB3 (Mahomes and Love are my other two) over the likes of Goff, Rodgers, Daniels, Caleb.......I'm totally happy with my decision. Fwiw, this league is heavy on distance TD bonuses, so Mayfield running around chucking it a good thing.

You took Mahomes and Love over those guys or you took Mayfield over those guys? In a start 2 I imagine they went pretty early.

 

[kyoun1e]

Wanted to target K. Murray last night, but kept missing out on him in mocks repeatedly. Promised myself if one of Hurts, Allen, Mahommes dropped to me in round 4 I'd take one of them. Got Hurts who I'm happy with for sure.

However, of course, Murray dropped into round 7. Figures.

 

[Manster]

What's wrong with 4,500 yds passing and 30 TDs Pass?
What if you get 2 of them after say the 8th-9th round? You would already be loaded at WR-RB and likely already have a strong TE option

The 2 QBs I am talking about go QB14 and QB15 off the board.
I think its absolutely Bananas to take a rookie QB over proven established QBs that aren't even old especially those that run explosive offenses

If you are going QB in the first 5-6 rounds, the correct answer is CJStroud

I agree. I’m in a 6 point TD league with 300 yard passing bonuses, so I’ve got others in my sight

I’m biased, but Baker Mayfield is going to have a nice season, and I imagine he’ll go rather late in fantasy drafts.

4,000+ yds and 28 Pass/1Rush, definitely caught my attention and dear JC I root for this team.
That was the most passing yds he's ever had in the NFL, he has thrown 26 and 27 TDs in his career but that only would point to consistency, something I chastise him for
I just always hate the starting QB for my team
Great post and you're right, he should be put into the discussion for terrific QB2 options

Lot of people sleeping on the Bucs’ offense.

Start 2 QB league I got Mayfield as my QB3 (Mahomes and Love are my other two) over the likes of Goff, Rodgers, Daniels, Caleb.......I'm totally happy with my decision. Fwiw, this league is heavy on distance TD bonuses, so Mayfield running around chucking it a good thing.

You took Mahomes and Love over those guys or you took Mayfield over those guys? In a start 2 I imagine they went pretty early.

Sorry, to clarify took Mayfield over those guys. I got Mahomes at #2 overall. Allen went #1

 

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The only thing I'm not sure about Hurts is whether the tush push continues at the same rate with HOF center Kelce now retired.

I will say this, when the Eagles tried the tush push with their backup QBs and the same OL Hurts had, it didn't work at the same rate of success. I'd say the tush push success more about Hurts and less about the other things.