Cpepp escorted off field (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

Culpepper is a whiny tool, but this move seems classless by the Dolphins organization.

The only way this is not classless is if the head of security walks up to Culp and says, "we need you to exit the practice field because you are now part of the ___________ organization now." Which is what Culp wants anyway....

The dolphins have turned into a garbage can organization.

<_<

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

From everything I've read sounds like Culpepper is the classless one. Instead of just letting Miami work out a deal and trade him, he is publicly stating that he won't redo his contract for anyone if he gets traded. I guess he's forcing Miami to either keep him and do what they want with him or release him. If Miami keeps him, he has no one to blame but himself. Miami doesn't have to let him practice especially if they don't want to risk an injury to him.

 

[mad sweeney]

From everything I've read sounds like Culpepper is the classless one. Instead of just letting Miami work out a deal and trade him, he is publicly stating that he won't redo his contract for anyone if he gets traded. I guess he's forcing Miami to either keep him and do what they want with him or release him. If Miami keeps him, he has no one to blame but himself. Miami doesn't have to let him practice especially if they don't want to risk an injury to him.

What did Culpepper do wrong? He signed a contract, they were aware of his injuries and had their own doctors approve him. Now they go and brgin in a guy to be the starter over him. He just shows up for practice and they kick him out. So he's not gonna let Miami off the hook for what they owe him and if he's going to go to another team he wants to do it on his terms. He's not saying he won't redo his contract, he;s saying he won't agree to a trade period. Miami will have to cut him and then he can negotiate with whatever teams want him. you can't hold his injuries against him. Miami took a chance on him and it didn't work out, they're treating him like a redheaded step child, so why should he meekly do what Miami wants him to do, ie get something in return for him in a trade. If Miami keeps him, he makes a lot of money as a backup, but with a wounded ego. But they won't keep him and he figures to get a better choice of teams as a free agent.Seriously, why should he make it easy on them?

 

[Yitbos69]

From everything I've read sounds like Culpepper is the classless one. Instead of just letting Miami work out a deal and trade him, he is publicly stating that he won't redo his contract for anyone if he gets traded. I guess he's forcing Miami to either keep him and do what they want with him or release him. If Miami keeps him, he has no one to blame but himself. Miami doesn't have to let him practice especially if they don't want to risk an injury to him.

What did Culpepper do wrong? He signed a contract, they were aware of his injuries and had their own doctors approve him. Now they go and brgin in a guy to be the starter over him. He just shows up for practice and they kick him out. So he's not gonna let Miami off the hook for what they owe him and if he's going to go to another team he wants to do it on his terms. He's not saying he won't redo his contract, he;s saying he won't agree to a trade period. Miami will have to cut him and then he can negotiate with whatever teams want him. you can't hold his injuries against him. Miami took a chance on him and it didn't work out, they're treating him like a redheaded step child, so why should he meekly do what Miami wants him to do, ie get something in return for him in a trade. If Miami keeps him, he makes a lot of money as a backup, but with a wounded ego. But they won't keep him and he figures to get a better choice of teams as a free agent.Seriously, why should he make it easy on them?

you nailed it with this post. Cpep owes Miami ZERO. Miami has three choices 1) they can keep him. 2)the can find a team that will trade for him with his current contract. 3) they can release him.CPep is under contract and was coming to work every day! So what has he done wrong?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

From everything I've read sounds like Culpepper is the classless one. Instead of just letting Miami work out a deal and trade him, he is publicly stating that he won't redo his contract for anyone if he gets traded. I guess he's forcing Miami to either keep him and do what they want with him or release him. If Miami keeps him, he has no one to blame but himself. Miami doesn't have to let him practice especially if they don't want to risk an injury to him.

What did Culpepper do wrong? He signed a contract, they were aware of his injuries and had their own doctors approve him. Now they go and brgin in a guy to be the starter over him. He just shows up for practice and they kick him out. So he's not gonna let Miami off the hook for what they owe him and if he's going to go to another team he wants to do it on his terms. He's not saying he won't redo his contract, he;s saying he won't agree to a trade period. Miami will have to cut him and then he can negotiate with whatever teams want him. you can't hold his injuries against him. Miami took a chance on him and it didn't work out, they're treating him like a redheaded step child, so why should he meekly do what Miami wants him to do, ie get something in return for him in a trade. If Miami keeps him, he makes a lot of money as a backup, but with a wounded ego. But they won't keep him and he figures to get a better choice of teams as a free agent.Seriously, why should he make it easy on them?

No, he said he would not redo his contract for any team if they traded for him. He would only redo it if he were released (which he would have to get a new contract obviously). I hope Miami keeps him and lets him sit as a #3. It would pretty much end his career. Who would give a guy a starting job next winter who hasn't done squat in 3 full years?

 

[mad sweeney]

From everything I've read sounds like Culpepper is the classless one. Instead of just letting Miami work out a deal and trade him, he is publicly stating that he won't redo his contract for anyone if he gets traded. I guess he's forcing Miami to either keep him and do what they want with him or release him. If Miami keeps him, he has no one to blame but himself. Miami doesn't have to let him practice especially if they don't want to risk an injury to him.

What did Culpepper do wrong? He signed a contract, they were aware of his injuries and had their own doctors approve him. Now they go and brgin in a guy to be the starter over him. He just shows up for practice and they kick him out. So he's not gonna let Miami off the hook for what they owe him and if he's going to go to another team he wants to do it on his terms. He's not saying he won't redo his contract, he;s saying he won't agree to a trade period. Miami will have to cut him and then he can negotiate with whatever teams want him. you can't hold his injuries against him. Miami took a chance on him and it didn't work out, they're treating him like a redheaded step child, so why should he meekly do what Miami wants him to do, ie get something in return for him in a trade. If Miami keeps him, he makes a lot of money as a backup, but with a wounded ego. But they won't keep him and he figures to get a better choice of teams as a free agent.Seriously, why should he make it easy on them?

No, he said he would not redo his contract for any team if they traded for him. He would only redo it if he were released (which he would have to get a new contract obviously). I hope Miami keeps him and lets him sit as a #3. It would pretty much end his career. Who would give a guy a starting job next winter who hasn't done squat in 3 full years?

"Any team that's interested in my services, just sit tight," Culpepper said. "I'm not going to agree to a trade.

This was his quote after he ws done lifting waits while the rest of the team practiced Friday. If you can find me a quote where he changed his mind after this one I'd be interested to see it as I have not heard him saying that after he said the above. Ether way, he is not willing to let Miami get something for dealing him, and I don't blame him. He could sit on the bench and rest his knee another year at I believe 5.5 mil, but the team told him on Friday that they had no plans to use him. And a year more strengthening his knee would absolutely not end his career, if anything it would make him more attractive since his injury is the biggest knock against him.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

From everything I've read sounds like Culpepper is the classless one. Instead of just letting Miami work out a deal and trade him, he is publicly stating that he won't redo his contract for anyone if he gets traded. I guess he's forcing Miami to either keep him and do what they want with him or release him. If Miami keeps him, he has no one to blame but himself. Miami doesn't have to let him practice especially if they don't want to risk an injury to him.

What did Culpepper do wrong? He signed a contract, they were aware of his injuries and had their own doctors approve him. Now they go and brgin in a guy to be the starter over him. He just shows up for practice and they kick him out. So he's not gonna let Miami off the hook for what they owe him and if he's going to go to another team he wants to do it on his terms. He's not saying he won't redo his contract, he;s saying he won't agree to a trade period. Miami will have to cut him and then he can negotiate with whatever teams want him. you can't hold his injuries against him. Miami took a chance on him and it didn't work out, they're treating him like a redheaded step child, so why should he meekly do what Miami wants him to do, ie get something in return for him in a trade. If Miami keeps him, he makes a lot of money as a backup, but with a wounded ego. But they won't keep him and he figures to get a better choice of teams as a free agent.Seriously, why should he make it easy on them?

No, he said he would not redo his contract for any team if they traded for him. He would only redo it if he were released (which he would have to get a new contract obviously). I hope Miami keeps him and lets him sit as a #3. It would pretty much end his career. Who would give a guy a starting job next winter who hasn't done squat in 3 full years?

"Any team that's interested in my services, just sit tight," Culpepper said. "I'm not going to agree to a trade.

This was his quote after he ws done lifting waits while the rest of the team practiced Friday. If you can find me a quote where he changed his mind after this one I'd be interested to see it as I have not heard him saying that after he said the above. Ether way, he is not willing to let Miami get something for dealing him, and I don't blame him. He could sit on the bench and rest his knee another year at I believe 5.5 mil, but the team told him on Friday that they had no plans to use him. And a year more strengthening his knee would absolutely not end his career, if anything it would make him more attractive since his injury is the biggest knock against him.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/133057.htmlCulpepper is done. If anyone thought he had a lick of talent left in him, they'd be pouncing to trade for him. But he's coming off an injury, a lockerroom cancer now with 2 different squads, and can't read a defense. Why, exactly, would someone want him?

 

[mad sweeney]

From everything I've read sounds like Culpepper is the classless one. Instead of just letting Miami work out a deal and trade him, he is publicly stating that he won't redo his contract for anyone if he gets traded. I guess he's forcing Miami to either keep him and do what they want with him or release him. If Miami keeps him, he has no one to blame but himself. Miami doesn't have to let him practice especially if they don't want to risk an injury to him.

What did Culpepper do wrong? He signed a contract, they were aware of his injuries and had their own doctors approve him. Now they go and brgin in a guy to be the starter over him. He just shows up for practice and they kick him out. So he's not gonna let Miami off the hook for what they owe him and if he's going to go to another team he wants to do it on his terms. He's not saying he won't redo his contract, he;s saying he won't agree to a trade period. Miami will have to cut him and then he can negotiate with whatever teams want him. you can't hold his injuries against him. Miami took a chance on him and it didn't work out, they're treating him like a redheaded step child, so why should he meekly do what Miami wants him to do, ie get something in return for him in a trade. If Miami keeps him, he makes a lot of money as a backup, but with a wounded ego. But they won't keep him and he figures to get a better choice of teams as a free agent.Seriously, why should he make it easy on them?

No, he said he would not redo his contract for any team if they traded for him. He would only redo it if he were released (which he would have to get a new contract obviously). I hope Miami keeps him and lets him sit as a #3. It would pretty much end his career. Who would give a guy a starting job next winter who hasn't done squat in 3 full years?

"Any team that's interested in my services, just sit tight," Culpepper said. "I'm not going to agree to a trade.

This was his quote after he ws done lifting waits while the rest of the team practiced Friday. If you can find me a quote where he changed his mind after this one I'd be interested to see it as I have not heard him saying that after he said the above. Ether way, he is not willing to let Miami get something for dealing him, and I don't blame him. He could sit on the bench and rest his knee another year at I believe 5.5 mil, but the team told him on Friday that they had no plans to use him. And a year more strengthening his knee would absolutely not end his career, if anything it would make him more attractive since his injury is the biggest knock against him.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/133057.htmlCulpepper is done. If anyone thought he had a lick of talent left in him, they'd be pouncing to trade for him. But he's coming off an injury, a lockerroom cancer now with 2 different squads, and can't read a defense. Why, exactly, would someone want him?

Interesting intro to the article you posted :

Daunte Culpepper addressed his situation with the Dolphins after Friday morning's mini-camp practice, saying, ``I definitely expect to be released. I will not be traded.

''I will not agree to any trade,'' he said

So I guess he DID say he wouldn't be traded, despite your protestations otherwise.Based on how accurate your last statement about Cpep was, allow me the courtesy of doubting you. Please provide the links to where he is a lockerroom cancer. He's upset now, but that's after the team basically told him to eff off. How is that a locker room canscer? But don't take my word for it, here's one of his "alienated" teammates:

"He's still a great guy," Dolphins defensive lineman Vonnie Holliday said. "He's been a great teammate. But this is a business ... and I feel for him."

And with his injury I would imagine teams want a different contract with him that's more incentive based, and considering the fact that Cpepper himself doesn't want a new team to have deal with his current contract.... The deal he made with Miami last season just may not be palatable for a team that wants him. Or a variety of other reasons. We just saw in the Green deal that there is way more than "OOh that guy has talent, let's pounce on him!" It's a business. And why would a team trade for him when they know he most likely will be cut? Your arguments are simply that, arguments. They are not backed up with facts, they are bluster with no backbone. Your big statement about Culpepper has been shredded and now you come up with an overblown and false diatribe. Culpepper may very well be done, but if teams are willing to trade for or sign the likes of Joch McKown (or however you spell his name) then I think there's plenty of market for a repeat probowl QB, with the right price attached.

 

[Yitbos69]

From everything I've read sounds like Culpepper is the classless one. Instead of just letting Miami work out a deal and trade him, he is publicly stating that he won't redo his contract for anyone if he gets traded. I guess he's forcing Miami to either keep him and do what they want with him or release him. If Miami keeps him, he has no one to blame but himself. Miami doesn't have to let him practice especially if they don't want to risk an injury to him.

What did Culpepper do wrong? He signed a contract, they were aware of his injuries and had their own doctors approve him. Now they go and brgin in a guy to be the starter over him. He just shows up for practice and they kick him out. So he's not gonna let Miami off the hook for what they owe him and if he's going to go to another team he wants to do it on his terms. He's not saying he won't redo his contract, he;s saying he won't agree to a trade period. Miami will have to cut him and then he can negotiate with whatever teams want him. you can't hold his injuries against him. Miami took a chance on him and it didn't work out, they're treating him like a redheaded step child, so why should he meekly do what Miami wants him to do, ie get something in return for him in a trade. If Miami keeps him, he makes a lot of money as a backup, but with a wounded ego. But they won't keep him and he figures to get a better choice of teams as a free agent.Seriously, why should he make it easy on them?

No, he said he would not redo his contract for any team if they traded for him. He would only redo it if he were released (which he would have to get a new contract obviously). I hope Miami keeps him and lets him sit as a #3. It would pretty much end his career. Who would give a guy a starting job next winter who hasn't done squat in 3 full years?

"Any team that's interested in my services, just sit tight," Culpepper said. "I'm not going to agree to a trade.

This was his quote after he ws done lifting waits while the rest of the team practiced Friday. If you can find me a quote where he changed his mind after this one I'd be interested to see it as I have not heard him saying that after he said the above. Ether way, he is not willing to let Miami get something for dealing him, and I don't blame him. He could sit on the bench and rest his knee another year at I believe 5.5 mil, but the team told him on Friday that they had no plans to use him. And a year more strengthening his knee would absolutely not end his career, if anything it would make him more attractive since his injury is the biggest knock against him.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/133057.htmlCulpepper is done. If anyone thought he had a lick of talent left in him, they'd be pouncing to trade for him. But he's coming off an injury, a lockerroom cancer now with 2 different squads, and can't read a defense. Why, exactly, would someone want him?

Why so much hate for CPep? How was he a cancer in the locker room?

 

[Chase Stuart]

The revisionist history on Culpepper is amazing. He has made three pro bowls and was one of the best QBs in the league for a five year stretch. He had one of the greatest seasons ever by a first year starting QB, and one of the greatest seasons by a QB ever, period. Yet people act like he was never any good.

 

[RC94]

From everything I've read sounds like Culpepper is the classless one. Instead of just letting Miami work out a deal and trade him, he is publicly stating that he won't redo his contract for anyone if he gets traded. I guess he's forcing Miami to either keep him and do what they want with him or release him. If Miami keeps him, he has no one to blame but himself. Miami doesn't have to let him practice especially if they don't want to risk an injury to him.

What did Culpepper do wrong? He signed a contract, they were aware of his injuries and had their own doctors approve him. Now they go and brgin in a guy to be the starter over him. He just shows up for practice and they kick him out. So he's not gonna let Miami off the hook for what they owe him and if he's going to go to another team he wants to do it on his terms. He's not saying he won't redo his contract, he;s saying he won't agree to a trade period. Miami will have to cut him and then he can negotiate with whatever teams want him. you can't hold his injuries against him. Miami took a chance on him and it didn't work out, they're treating him like a redheaded step child, so why should he meekly do what Miami wants him to do, ie get something in return for him in a trade. If Miami keeps him, he makes a lot of money as a backup, but with a wounded ego. But they won't keep him and he figures to get a better choice of teams as a free agent.Seriously, why should he make it easy on them?

No, he said he would not redo his contract for any team if they traded for him. He would only redo it if he were released (which he would have to get a new contract obviously). I hope Miami keeps him and lets him sit as a #3. It would pretty much end his career. Who would give a guy a starting job next winter who hasn't done squat in 3 full years?

"Any team that's interested in my services, just sit tight," Culpepper said. "I'm not going to agree to a trade.

This was his quote after he ws done lifting waits while the rest of the team practiced Friday. If you can find me a quote where he changed his mind after this one I'd be interested to see it as I have not heard him saying that after he said the above. Ether way, he is not willing to let Miami get something for dealing him, and I don't blame him. He could sit on the bench and rest his knee another year at I believe 5.5 mil, but the team told him on Friday that they had no plans to use him. And a year more strengthening his knee would absolutely not end his career, if anything it would make him more attractive since his injury is the biggest knock against him.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/133057.htmlCulpepper is done. If anyone thought he had a lick of talent left in him, they'd be pouncing to trade for him. But he's coming off an injury, a lockerroom cancer now with 2 different squads, and can't read a defense. Why, exactly, would someone want him?

Interesting intro to the article you posted :

Daunte Culpepper addressed his situation with the Dolphins after Friday morning's mini-camp practice, saying, ``I definitely expect to be released. I will not be traded.

''I will not agree to any trade,'' he said

So I guess he DID say he wouldn't be traded, despite your protestations otherwise.Based on how accurate your last statement about Cpep was, allow me the courtesy of doubting you. Please provide the links to where he is a lockerroom cancer. He's upset now, but that's after the team basically told him to eff off. How is that a locker room canscer? But don't take my word for it, here's one of his "alienated" teammates:

"He's still a great guy," Dolphins defensive lineman Vonnie Holliday said. "He's been a great teammate. But this is a business ... and I feel for him."

And with his injury I would imagine teams want a different contract with him that's more incentive based, and considering the fact that Cpepper himself doesn't want a new team to have deal with his current contract.... The deal he made with Miami last season just may not be palatable for a team that wants him. Or a variety of other reasons. We just saw in the Green deal that there is way more than "OOh that guy has talent, let's pounce on him!" It's a business. And why would a team trade for him when they know he most likely will be cut? Your arguments are simply that, arguments. They are not backed up with facts, they are bluster with no backbone. Your big statement about Culpepper has been shredded and now you come up with an overblown and false diatribe. Culpepper may very well be done, but if teams are willing to trade for or sign the likes of Joch McKown (or however you spell his name) then I think there's plenty of market for a repeat probowl QB, with the right price attached.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

The revisionist history on Culpepper is amazing. He has made three pro bowls and was one of the best QBs in the league for a five year stretch. He had one of the greatest seasons ever by a first year starting QB, and one of the greatest seasons by a QB ever, period. Yet people act like he was never any good.

What has he ever done without Carter and Moss? Why did he all of sudden become so terrible without them? Do you think he is one of the best QB in the league today and yet no one seems to want him?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

From everything I've read sounds like Culpepper is the classless one. Instead of just letting Miami work out a deal and trade him, he is publicly stating that he won't redo his contract for anyone if he gets traded. I guess he's forcing Miami to either keep him and do what they want with him or release him. If Miami keeps him, he has no one to blame but himself. Miami doesn't have to let him practice especially if they don't want to risk an injury to him.

What did Culpepper do wrong? He signed a contract, they were aware of his injuries and had their own doctors approve him. Now they go and brgin in a guy to be the starter over him. He just shows up for practice and they kick him out. So he's not gonna let Miami off the hook for what they owe him and if he's going to go to another team he wants to do it on his terms. He's not saying he won't redo his contract, he;s saying he won't agree to a trade period. Miami will have to cut him and then he can negotiate with whatever teams want him. you can't hold his injuries against him. Miami took a chance on him and it didn't work out, they're treating him like a redheaded step child, so why should he meekly do what Miami wants him to do, ie get something in return for him in a trade. If Miami keeps him, he makes a lot of money as a backup, but with a wounded ego. But they won't keep him and he figures to get a better choice of teams as a free agent.Seriously, why should he make it easy on them?

No, he said he would not redo his contract for any team if they traded for him. He would only redo it if he were released (which he would have to get a new contract obviously). I hope Miami keeps him and lets him sit as a #3. It would pretty much end his career. Who would give a guy a starting job next winter who hasn't done squat in 3 full years?

"Any team that's interested in my services, just sit tight," Culpepper said. "I'm not going to agree to a trade.

This was his quote after he ws done lifting waits while the rest of the team practiced Friday. If you can find me a quote where he changed his mind after this one I'd be interested to see it as I have not heard him saying that after he said the above. Ether way, he is not willing to let Miami get something for dealing him, and I don't blame him. He could sit on the bench and rest his knee another year at I believe 5.5 mil, but the team told him on Friday that they had no plans to use him. And a year more strengthening his knee would absolutely not end his career, if anything it would make him more attractive since his injury is the biggest knock against him.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/133057.htmlCulpepper is done. If anyone thought he had a lick of talent left in him, they'd be pouncing to trade for him. But he's coming off an injury, a lockerroom cancer now with 2 different squads, and can't read a defense. Why, exactly, would someone want him?

Interesting intro to the article you posted :

Daunte Culpepper addressed his situation with the Dolphins after Friday morning's mini-camp practice, saying, ``I definitely expect to be released. I will not be traded.

''I will not agree to any trade,'' he said

So I guess he DID say he wouldn't be traded, despite your protestations otherwise.Based on how accurate your last statement about Cpep was, allow me the courtesy of doubting you. Please provide the links to where he is a lockerroom cancer. He's upset now, but that's after the team basically told him to eff off. How is that a locker room canscer? But don't take my word for it, here's one of his "alienated" teammates:

"He's still a great guy," Dolphins defensive lineman Vonnie Holliday said. "He's been a great teammate. But this is a business ... and I feel for him."

And with his injury I would imagine teams want a different contract with him that's more incentive based, and considering the fact that Cpepper himself doesn't want a new team to have deal with his current contract.... The deal he made with Miami last season just may not be palatable for a team that wants him. Or a variety of other reasons. We just saw in the Green deal that there is way more than "OOh that guy has talent, let's pounce on him!" It's a business. And why would a team trade for him when they know he most likely will be cut? Your arguments are simply that, arguments. They are not backed up with facts, they are bluster with no backbone. Your big statement about Culpepper has been shredded and now you come up with an overblown and false diatribe. Culpepper may very well be done, but if teams are willing to trade for or sign the likes of Joch McKown (or however you spell his name) then I think there's plenty of market for a repeat probowl QB, with the right price attached.

"So I guess he DID say he wouldn't be traded, despite your protestations otherwise."What are you talking about? I've been saying all day that he is refusing to be traded just as the article states. Maybe you should re-read my posts or re-read the article.

I remember reading that Minnesota ditched him because he was a lockerroom cancer their. Now he's certainly a cancer in the Dolphin lockerroom. And a lockerroom cancer has nothing to do what ones teammates say about him. You should think about what a cancer is and what it can do to a lockerroom from the team standpoint.

What is my big statement about Culpepper? Who shredded it? What is my false diatribe? I'm just stating my opinion of the guy, his actions this weekend, and of his value in the league. Again why, exactly, would anyone want him? He's coming off an injury. He doesn't read defenses. He will openly cause problems for the team if he isn't getting his way as he's done in Minn. and Miami. Would you bring someone in like that to tutor your young QB (maybe why J. McCown has a job in Oakland instead of Culpepper)? Would you hand over your franchise to this guy?

 

[Chase Stuart]

The revisionist history on Culpepper is amazing. He has made three pro bowls and was one of the best QBs in the league for a five year stretch. He had one of the greatest seasons ever by a first year starting QB, and one of the greatest seasons by a QB ever, period. Yet people act like he was never any good.

What has he ever done without Carter and Moss? Why did he all of sudden become so terrible without them? Do you think he is one of the best QB in the league today and yet no one seems to want him?

I wasn't aware that we were incapable of judging a player's ability if he happens to throw to very good receivers. Do you really think that?

 

[ericttspikes]

The revisionist history on Culpepper is amazing. He has made three pro bowls and was one of the best QBs in the league for a five year stretch. He had one of the greatest seasons ever by a first year starting QB, and one of the greatest seasons by a QB ever, period. Yet people act like he was never any good.

What has he ever done without Carter and Moss? Why did he all of sudden become so terrible without them? Do you think he is one of the best QB in the league today and yet no one seems to want him?

That 04 Vikes team wasn't that great at all. Culpepper had 39 TDs and 69% completion. Must of been that all pro Nate Burleson.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

The revisionist history on Culpepper is amazing. He has made three pro bowls and was one of the best QBs in the league for a five year stretch. He had one of the greatest seasons ever by a first year starting QB, and one of the greatest seasons by a QB ever, period. Yet people act like he was never any good.

What has he ever done without Carter and Moss? Why did he all of sudden become so terrible without them? Do you think he is one of the best QB in the league today and yet no one seems to want him?

I wasn't aware that we were incapable of judging a player's ability if he happens to throw to very good receivers. Do you really think that?

Yes, I do believe that some players can appear better than they actually are based on the talent around them. Do you think Jon Kitna was one of the best QB in the league last year?I see you conviently failed to answer my question. Wonder why

 

[Chase Stuart]

The revisionist history on Culpepper is amazing. He has made three pro bowls and was one of the best QBs in the league for a five year stretch. He had one of the greatest seasons ever by a first year starting QB, and one of the greatest seasons by a QB ever, period. Yet people act like he was never any good.

What has he ever done without Carter and Moss? Why did he all of sudden become so terrible without them? Do you think he is one of the best QB in the league today and yet no one seems to want him?

I wasn't aware that we were incapable of judging a player's ability if he happens to throw to very good receivers. Do you really think that?

Yes, I do believe that some players can appear better than they actually are based on the talent around them. Do you think Jon Kitna was one of the best QB in the league last year?I see you conviently failed to answer my question. Wonder why

What has Peyton Manning done without Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne? (And it's been already noted what Culpepper did without Cris Carter and half of Randy Moss.)

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

The revisionist history on Culpepper is amazing. He has made three pro bowls and was one of the best QBs in the league for a five year stretch. He had one of the greatest seasons ever by a first year starting QB, and one of the greatest seasons by a QB ever, period. Yet people act like he was never any good.

What has he ever done without Carter and Moss? Why did he all of sudden become so terrible without them? Do you think he is one of the best QB in the league today and yet no one seems to want him?

I wasn't aware that we were incapable of judging a player's ability if he happens to throw to very good receivers. Do you really think that?

Yes, I do believe that some players can appear better than they actually are based on the talent around them. Do you think Jon Kitna was one of the best QB in the league last year?I see you conviently failed to answer my question. Wonder why

What has Peyton Manning done without Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne? (And it's been already noted what Culpepper did without Cris Carter and half of Randy Moss.)

You're ducking all kinds of questions now. Nice job.

 

[mad sweeney]

The revisionist history on Culpepper is amazing. He has made three pro bowls and was one of the best QBs in the league for a five year stretch. He had one of the greatest seasons ever by a first year starting QB, and one of the greatest seasons by a QB ever, period. Yet people act like he was never any good.

What has he ever done without Carter and Moss? Why did he all of sudden become so terrible without them? Do you think he is one of the best QB in the league today and yet no one seems to want him?

In 2004 Culpepper threw almost 4000 yards and 26 TDs to receivers NOT named Moss or Carter. In ADDITION to Moss' 787/13.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

The revisionist history on Culpepper is amazing. He has made three pro bowls and was one of the best QBs in the league for a five year stretch. He had one of the greatest seasons ever by a first year starting QB, and one of the greatest seasons by a QB ever, period. Yet people act like he was never any good.

What has he ever done without Carter and Moss? Why did he all of sudden become so terrible without them? Do you think he is one of the best QB in the league today and yet no one seems to want him?

In 2004 Culpepper threw almost 4000 yards and 26 TDs to receivers NOT named Moss or Carter. In ADDITION to Moss' 787/13.

Okay, I stand corrected. He did have one great year without both Moss and Carter. So then why did he become such an awful player in 2005 and 2006? And why are a bunch of teams pubicly saying they have no interest in the guy? The Ravens are the latest team and their QBs are a very old guy who should be just about done, a guy many consider to be a bust in Boller, and an undersized rookie who will have to defy a lot of odds to ever become a top starting QB in Troy Smith.

 

[mad sweeney]

The revisionist history on Culpepper is amazing. He has made three pro bowls and was one of the best QBs in the league for a five year stretch. He had one of the greatest seasons ever by a first year starting QB, and one of the greatest seasons by a QB ever, period. Yet people act like he was never any good.

What has he ever done without Carter and Moss? Why did he all of sudden become so terrible without them? Do you think he is one of the best QB in the league today and yet no one seems to want him?

In 2004 Culpepper threw almost 4000 yards and 26 TDs to receivers NOT named Moss or Carter. In ADDITION to Moss' 787/13.

Okay, I stand corrected. He did have one great year without both Moss and Carter. So then why did he become such an awful player in 2005 and 2006? And why are a bunch of teams pubicly saying they have no interest in the guy? The Ravens are the latest team and their QBs are a very old guy who should be just about done, a guy many consider to be a bust in Boller, and an undersized rookie who will have to defy a lot of odds to ever become a top starting QB in Troy Smith.

2002 without Carter 3800/18/23 high on INTs but good numbers Moss 1350/72003 without Carter 3500/25/11 Moss 1630/172004 you've seenIIRC, after 04 the Vikings were HORRIBLE in general, especially their line (the absolute key to ANY teams success) , no running game and they had who for receivers? Manning on that Vikings team would've prayed for an injury to get him off the field.Why are few team clamoring for him? It's a little late in the game for most to try and acquire a challenger for a starting QB. Cap room and current depth charts are largely set, making the market for his services low to start with. You asked why McCown went to the Raiders and not Cilpepper, Daunte wasn't on the market then! McNair took his team to the playoffs last season and played very well, despite low fantasy stats. Why would they bring in another guy to challenge for the #1 spot? Clearly Culpepper isn't interested in being a backup. So who are the teams looking for a starter. Lions? Nope, Kitna is a very serviceable QB who will hold the fort while they groom their rookie. Not great but runs the offense well and has the team's respect. He's a book mark and not a position Culpepper would want to get into. There's a limited market right now and just because no one has scooped him up immediately after he became "available" has nothing to do with his perceived market value. Not to mention the fact that there is a large chance he'll be released so why trade for him now when you can wait a little bit and get him on more favorable terms.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Culpepper was incredible in 2004 and excellent for most of the years before then. His current perception has nothing to do with that, which was the only point of my post (People were wrong to say stuff like Culpepper can't read defenses or Culpepper was never really that good).

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Culpepper was incredible in 2004 and excellent for most of the years before then. His current perception has nothing to do with that, which was the only point of my post (People were wrong to say stuff like Culpepper can't read defenses or Culpepper was never really that good).

Well, I never said he "was never really that good". I said he looked better than he truly was because of Moss and Carter. Big difference. Now I did say he can't read defenses. That's based on things I read when Minnesota ran him out of town and why he struggled in Miami. Neither you nor I know 100% sure how well he reads defenses. He's certainly made some head scratching decisions the last two seasons though.