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Curtis Martin Could Retire (1 Viewer)

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The NY Daily News quotes a source close to Curtis Martin that expects the running back to retire.

Martin reportedly mulled over retirement before the season before plowing ahead. We're downgrading him to a flier fantasy pick at best and expect the Jets to acquire another runner. Maybe Herm Edwards should have used LaMont Jordan a little more in 2004, when Martin had 457 touches. Aug. 9 - 9:37 am et

Source: New York Daily News

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Edited to be more clear as to what the article says:

Link: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/441881p-372192c.html

BY RICH CIMINI

DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Curtis Martin

Before coming to New York for the start of training camp, Curtis Martin was so concerned about his lingering knee injury that he spoke with people close to him about the possibility of retiring, according to two people close to the Jets' running back.

Martin, ever the warrior, decided to plow ahead. But, nearly two weeks into training camp, the team's all-time leading rusher appears closer to retirement than the playing field. The signs are ominous.

"I'd be really shocked if he came back," one person close to Martin said.

Martin underwent arthroscopic surgery last December after playing nearly the entire season with damaged cartilage, bone chips and a bone bruise in his right knee. The surgery was thought to be minor, but his 33-year-old knee was left with virtually no cartilage, leaving a bone-on-bone condition.

"The injury was a lot worse than anyone thought," the person said. "I'm pretty sure the cartilage is gone and it's bone on bone. It's pretty intolerable."

Martin was placed on the physically-unable-to-perform list at the start of camp, meaning he can't practice until he passes a physical. Out of respect for Martin and his toughness, the Jets are giving him a chance to get healthy. They don't want to count him out until it's truly over, but there's a growing feeling within the organization that Martin is finished.

Martin has two options: He can call it quits before the end of the preseason or he can remain on the PUP list when the regular season starts, meaning he would have to sit out the first sixgames. That would buy more time to continue his rehabilitation.

"He has to make a decision," said another person close to Martin, suggesting the future Hall of Famer is indeed mulling retirement.

Coach Eric Mangini said that Martin comes in for rehab every day, and like with all knee injuries, his situation is difficult to forecast.

"The way we're approaching all the injuries is exactly the same," Mangini said. "There has really been no change in his status, with either our approach or his approach."

On the second day of camp, Martin stated emphatically that he wants to play, although he stopped short of saying he would be back.

Since then, he has been invisible to the public, rehabbing behind the scenes, not even showing up to watch practice. It seems the organization is trying to shield him. Some of his own teammates say they don't see him that much anymore. At Sunday's intrasquad scrimmage at the Meadowlands, he was seen limping deep inside the stadium.

Martin's agent, Eugene Parker, declined to comment.

The Jets are aggressively exploring the running-back market, a strong indication that Martin no longer is in their immediate plans. It seems highly likely they will make a trade in the next week or two, hoping to bolster a backfield that looks extremely vulnerable.

Some may recall that Martin signed an eight-year contract in 2002 that included a unique insurance provision that would enable to Jets to recoup a portion of his signing bonus ($10 million) if he suffered a career-ending injury. Problem is, the policy expired after the 2003 season, according to an NFL source.

Chad Pennington, making his own return from injury, only knows he misses the Jets' mainstay of the last eight seasons.

"We know what Curtis means to our organization," said Chad Pennington, who also said he hasn't seen much of Martin. "We just can't wait to see him out here."

With Darren Everson
 
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Big news if true.

We've already had the Jets attached to every backup rb in the league - let the onslaught of threads begin

 
I'm waiting for the first Barry Sanders comparison. :stirspot:

BTW, it doesn't say he's going to retire; indeed, it says the opposite, at least as to this season . . .

 
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From ESPN:

The New York Jets' running attack might have a new pilot this season for the first time since 1997.

Two sources close to Curtis Martin told the New York Daily News that the running back talked about retirement before deciding to give it a go for another season, and one of the sources told the newspaper "I'd be really shocked if he came back."

Curtis Martin

Running Back

New York Jets

Profile

2005 SEASON STATISTICS

Rush Yds TD Rec Yds TD

220 735 5 24 118 0

Martin was placed on the physically-unable-to-perform list at the start of training camp after he underwent arthroscopic right knee surgery in December. At the time of the surgery, he said he expected to start running again in February. He also said there was no ligament or structural damage.

However, according to several reports out of the New York area, Martin's knee has virtually no cartilage left. "The guy is bone-on-bone on the knee and can't play," a source told Newsday.

The Newark Star-Ledger reported earlier this week that Martin urged the team to draft a running back in case he was not ready for the season.

The No. 4 all-time leading rusher has been squirreled away inside the Jets complex rehabbing his right knee, making it a mystery when he will play again. Even teammates sound spooked when asked about how their teammate is doing.

"Curtis? I haven't really talked to him," said fellow running back Derrick Blaylock. "I really don't know how he's feeling right now."

Curious, considering coach Eric Mangini said that Martin has attended all position and team meetings.

Then there is Chad Pennington, who said, "I haven't seen Curtis that much. I've been going from meetings to eating back to meetings to rehab. My schedule's been so full, I haven't gotten a chance to sit down and talk to him."

Martin, with 14,101 career yards rushing, is locked up tight indoors. Last weekend when the Jets had two practices at the Meadowlands, Mangini said Martin made the trip. But once again, he was nowhere to be found. Not even when the team had an open 10-minute autograph session.

Rather than preparing for a future without Martin, the Jets chose the 5-foot-8 Leon Washington in the fourth round, but he is undersized and working behind Blaylock and Cedric Houston. None of the three seems to be the type who can carry the entire rushing load on their shoulders, so the Jets have put out feelers around the league for running backs.

One name that has come up is Titans back Chris Brown, who had his trade request declined. Still, there is no one available now who is the type of marquee, featured back the Jets want. They had one in LaMont Jordan, but let him go as a free agent last year.

Mangini has declined to discuss the options at running back, but said Martin is still providing a valuable service off the field.

"With a guy like Curtis, when they're around the players they have nothing but a positive effect," Mangini said. "He's done a lot of work with the younger guys, not just the running backs, talking about what it means to be a pro, what it means to practice like a pro, the way to conduct yourself. He has a wealth of knowledge in football and life the young players can't help but benefit from."

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Point of the story (Which is fairly old) is that Martin's knee supposedly has no cartilidge left and that he is "bone-on-bone"

Also players in camp (including Pennington and Blaylock) have not even spoke to Curtis.

Not looking good.

 
Point of the story (Which is fairly old) is that Martin's knee supposedly has no cartilidge left and that he is "bone-on-bone"Also players in camp (including Pennington and Blaylock) have not even spoke to Curtis.Not looking good.
I don't get the "not even spoke to Curtis" part. Is his jaw bone-on-bone too?
 
You would have to be insane to take Martin this year.. Problems already and we haven't even started. Unless you get him as a steal late in draft I will avoid him..

 
So, assuming that the Jets don't manage to bring anyone in, is this RBBC or is Cedric the feature back? I've heard a lot about his thyroid condition affecting him last year and that it is now cleared up. I watched him in college at Tennessee and frankly I thought he was average for a college back and was injury-prone as well, but maybe that was because of the thyroid problem too?

 
A couple of days ago on Sirius Radio, they interviewed the Jets beat writer. He indicated that the team is convinced that Blaylock is only a situational player. Nothing specific was mentioned about Houston but I suppose you can assume he is the starter.

 
So, assuming that the Jets don't manage to bring anyone in, is this RBBC or is Cedric the feature back? I've heard a lot about his thyroid condition affecting him last year and that it is now cleared up. I watched him in college at Tennessee and frankly I thought he was average for a college back and was injury-prone as well, but maybe that was because of the thyroid problem too?
Barring a trade, Cedric should get the audition. I do think the thyroid condition was some of what made him look average at Tennessee. He was a very highly touted recruit and only showed flashes of that talent in college - often wearing down in practice and during games for seemingly no reason. The thyroid condition is a very logical explanation for that. I still think there's a decent chance you'll see Adrian Peterson (Ok,lahoma, not Chicago Bears) in a Jets uniform next year.
 
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Yesterday in the 11 on 11's, Blaylock got about 50% of the work with the first team, Houston maybe 30% and 20% for Washington. Looks like RBBC at this point, but obviously subject to change. Personally, I think Houston may be the only one of the three that could become something close to a feature back. Blaylock is a great reciever, but even Washington is better than him between the tackles. Houston is easilly the best between the tackles, but also has the speed to get outside, although he is the least elusive runner of the three.... his straight line speed this year is close to Blaylock's. Houston doesn't have the wiggle, but rarely goes down on first contact. He's a reliable reciever too.

The Friday night scrimmage should help clear this up some.... but the situation will most likely remain fluid.

 
Houston just got picked up in my dynasty league. People are starting to bite. Personally I think the Jets are going to have to bring someone else in to be the feature back. They don't seem to have confidence in anyone on their roster.

 
as much has it would hurt to watch again, i think the jets are headed to another 4-12 or 3-13 type of season. Bring on Adrian peterson

 
I would be very suprised if they didn't bring in a RB to at least compete for the starting job this year if Martin retires.

 
....seriously.... Adrian Peterson is all but in a Jet uniform. Why did they even bother wasting a 4th on Leon Washington? The management in NY needs to be gutted.

 
Point of the story (Which is fairly old) is that Martin's knee supposedly has no cartilidge left and that he is "bone-on-bone"

Also players in camp (including Pennington and Blaylock) have not even spoke to Curtis.

Not looking good.
I don't get the "not even spoke to Curtis" part. Is his jaw bone-on-bone too?
What he does with his jaw bone :yawn: is his own business. NTTATWT :unsure:

Back on topic: Who, other than C.Brown, does the rumor mill consider as possible candidates to go there in a trade?

 
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A couple of days ago on Sirius Radio, they interviewed the Jets beat writer. He indicated that the team is convinced that Blaylock is only a situational player. Nothing specific was mentioned about Houston but I suppose you can assume he is the starter.
I beleive that. Blaylock's been getting praised for his pass-receiving and his special teams work. That, and the jets seem to be considering guys liek Chris Brown and Thomas Jones - guys whom you would expect to be complemented by a power back like Houston, not a shift back like Blaylock.
 
Turner would be very interesting as a Jet. I don't see it though because that would leave the Chargers with only the undersized Sproles as their back up. The asking price would probably be pretty high as well.

 
....seriously.... Adrian Peterson is all but in a Jet uniform. Why did they even bother wasting a 4th on Leon Washington? The management in NY needs to be gutted.
Thanks, I needed a good laugh! Yeah, they should fire an entirely new FO before they play their first preseason game under the new regime because they drafted Leon Washington! :lmao: That was rich. BTW, Washington has looked very good in TC, both out of the backfield and lining up in the slot occassionally. Nice CoP RB. Turner is the only RB being floated out there that makes any sense from a Jets standpoint. He's in the last year of his rookie contract and he knows lil Schott's offense, doesn't have an injury history and has the upside as a feature RB. I wonder if Houston and Washington's 2007 second would be enough?
 
Names I've seen posted...C BrownThomas JonesM ShippM TurnerDuckettLee Suggs
Brown - Titans have said repeatedly they do not want to trade him. doubtful.TJ - Chicago likes their depth at RB way too much. doubtful.Shipp - good value here, especially if the JETS fully intend to enter the Peterson sweepstakes in '07. Mangini relationship here as well.Turner - see previous post. I don't think SD will part with him and if they do, it will cost the JETS big time.Duckett - possible, but does he fit the JETS system? RBBC is likely.Suggs - very possible, but he's a backup not a starter.Missing from the list:Fragile Freddy - If JAX is happy with Jones/Drew, this would be a very smart move. However, I doubt the JETS will bite given their current situation with CuMar.Davenport - Gado is ready to rock. Barlow - lost man in SF. Staley - not likely, but remotely possible. Shelton - very possible. Might even wait to grab him off waivers.I'd say Shipp is lead candidate for actually getting the trade done. Denny loves to trade! :yes:
 
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Back on topic: Who, other than C.Brown, does the rumor mill consider as possible candidates to go there in a trade?
Marcel Shipp and Michael Turner are the latest Ive seen mentioned.
Shipp I could see.Turner? E-X-P-E-N-S-I-V-E. What does SD really need that the JETS could offer? What could the JETS afford?
so says the guy that just picked up Shipp
Early bird, ya-da, ya-da, ya-da.... :hey:
 
Back on topic: Who, other than C.Brown, does the rumor mill consider as possible candidates to go there in a trade?
Marcel Shipp and Michael Turner are the latest Ive seen mentioned.
Shipp I could see.Turner? E-X-P-E-N-S-I-V-E. What does SD really need that the JETS could offer? What could the JETS afford?
so says the guy that just picked up Shipp
Early bird, ya-da, ya-da, ya-da.... :hey:
:yawn:
 
....seriously.... Adrian Peterson is all but in a Jet uniform. Why did they even bother wasting a 4th on Leon Washington? The management in NY needs to be gutted.
That was rich. BTW, Washington has looked very good in TC, both out of the backfield and lining up in the slot occassionally. Nice CoP RB.
Great... don't they already have two CoP RBs in Houston and Blaylock? And don't tell me Houston has the make-up of a starter.didn't realize the entire F.O. was already gutted :bag:
 
Why spend the value on a trade unless you are bringing in a long term solution? This is not a win-now team.

Enter a guy like Turner. You'd have to pay more to get him, but you'd presumably have your featured back and you'd still have your early first rounder next year.

:shrug:

Food for thought.

 
Why spend the value on a trade unless you are bringing in a long term solution? This is not a win-now team. Enter a guy like Turner. You'd have to pay more to get him, but you'd presumably have your featured back and you'd still have your early first rounder next year. :shrug:Food for thought.
Sort of a reverse Lamont Jordan....Who would SD have as back up though, other than Mighty Mite Darren Sproles?
 
....seriously.... Adrian Peterson is all but in a Jet uniform. Why did they even bother wasting a 4th on Leon Washington? The management in NY needs to be gutted.
A problem here is that even if the Jets are the worst team, they won't necessarily have the worst record. By all statistical accounts except wins and losses, SF was clearly the worst team last year. Yet they won enough games to have five teams pick ahead of them. The Jets play a weak schedule, probably have Pennington back, and their defense is sound. If they win 5-6 games this year they may not have a shot at Peterson.
 
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Agreed. You can't bank on any particular college player. I mean sure, if Peterson has another great year, and stays healthy, and the Jets are in position to select him and nobody has emerged for them, he's a good fit. But there's a whole season to play between now and then.

 
I think the Jets are definately going to ante up and trade for a guy like Chris Brown or Thomas Jones - they really need to have a veteran anchor in that backfield if they are to maintain their Super Bowl aspirations - a guy like that might be just enough to put the Jets over the top, well worth giving up future draft picks to a team that might be looking to rebuild. They're obviously looking to win now.

That, but the exact opposite.

 
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I think the Jets are definately going to ante up and trade for a guy like Chris Brown or Thomas Jones - they really need to have a veteran anchor in that backfield if they are to maintain their Super Bowl aspirations - a guy like that might be just enough to put the Jets over the top, well worth giving up future draft picks to a team that might be looking to rebuild. They're obviously looking to win now.

That, but the exact opposite.
:lmao: I was hitting the reply button before I saw your last line! :lmao:

 
Why spend the value on a trade unless you are bringing in a long term solution? This is not a win-now team. Enter a guy like Turner. You'd have to pay more to get him, but you'd presumably have your featured back and you'd still have your early first rounder next year. :shrug:Food for thought.
I agree - no need for the J-E-T-S to cut into their future by bringing in a RB that will get kill before the OL gels (see D'Brick & Mangold) and becomes elite in the near future...Turner would have long term value... but I'm certain the Chargers would probably ask that 1st rounder in return... Turner will only be a RFA at the end of the year - no need for the Chargers to jump the gun (no pun intended toward Maurice Clarett)... The only value the Jets could send the Chargers way are backup RBs (Houston / Blaylock) that would be a concern for the Chargers if they let Turner go...I think the most plausible "investments" are Eric Shelton / Lee Suggs / Marcel Shipp - in that order... the Bears won't let TJones go (especially with Benson seemingly injury prone) - nor will the Titans let CBrown walk out without asking much in return... On the other hand - Shelton is/was a big time talent that "busted" with the Panthers... the Jets could probably get him for free... you never know with a change of scenery - just ask Priest (and no, I'm not comparing the two)...Finally, even if they can't get Peterson in next year's draft... they will probably have a "good enough" pick to grab either Michael Bush and/or Marshawn Lynch - two guys that will be feature RB in the NFL for a while...
 
Names I've heard thrown around:

Lee Suggs, Cedric Cobbs, Thomas Jones, and Chris Brown

 
The Jets will ride the hot hand, whatever hand that may be. I think that Houston can be an everydown back. The guy is listed as 6' and 220. That's not a scat back. When we had out FA night on the night of the NFL draft last April, when I saw that the Jets didn't take anyone in the first 3 rounds I called out Houston's name and won the bidding. I took a flyer.

Right now I think he has the best chance to start. And the longer this team goes into training camp before the less likely a trade for a substantial player will occur. Sure, they might get some castoff or Moe Williams type RB later in TC but that guy isn't going to be a guy that could start. The longer it takes to get a deal done, I think the less likely it will be that the Jets trade for a TJones, CBrown, TBell, or Barlow.

 
Names I've heard thrown around:Lee Suggs, Cedric Cobbs, Thomas Jones, and Chris Brown
Would it be possible to specify who is "throwing around" these names?As unlikely that I find it that the Jets would want to pay for Chris Brown, the Bears would consider moving Jones at this point, the prospect of the Jets trading for Cedric Cobbs (or for anyone trading for him, for that matter), seems absolutely certifiable to me.
 
I'm curious about Newsday throwing Turner and Shipp's names out there yesterday. It was just a one liner and has been quoted by other sources today, but I've found nothing supporting it. Is this idle speculation by the writer or does he have a source?

Turner I can see trading a pick for, Shipp I can't. Shipp's not any better than what they have, and if it's just to fill the RB roster spot there will be players cut by other teams who can be had for nothing. As others above have said, as long as the Jets are not in position to contend, don't waste the pick on an older player who will add little. It makes no sense to me to have Shipp's name floating among the possible candidates.

 
Names I've heard thrown around:

Lee Suggs, Cedric Cobbs, Thomas Jones, and Chris Brown
Would it be possible to specify who is "throwing around" these names?As unlikely that I find it that the Jets would want to pay for Chris Brown, the Bears would consider moving Jones at this point, the prospect of the Jets trading for Cedric Cobbs (or for anyone trading for him, for that matter), seems absolutely certifiable to me.
The New York Daily News reports Jets RB Curtis Martin has a "bone-on-bone" condition in his surgically repaired right knee, a setback that has the Jets' coaching staff privately wondering if the future Hall of Famer will be able to suit up for the start of his 12th season. "The guy is bone-on-bone on the knee and can't play," a person with knowledge of Martin's injury said yesterday, speaking on condition of anonymity. "No one has said he's not going to play, but I don't know how much more they're going to get out of the guy." The person confirmed earlier reports that Martin has virtually no cartilage in his right knee, which was repaired arthroscopically in December. HC Eric Mangini said yesterday that Martin's status hasn't changed and that he's at the complex every day for rehab, all of which is done out of the media's view. Martin is attending all team meetings and functions, Mangini said. Martin was seen walking with a distinct limp Sunday at Giants Stadium, where the Jets held an intrasquad scrimmage. It was quite a contrast to the last time reporters saw Martin for any extended period, at the June minicamp, when he ran and did individual drills. It is not known if Martin has had further surgery on the knee. Mangini declines to address the specifics of injuries, and a high-ranking team official with knowledge of Martin's condition declined comment yesterday on whether he had to have another scope. The Jets continue to explore the running backs market. The latest names added to the list are the Cardinals' RB Marcel Shipp and the Chargers' RB Michael Turner, who worked with Jets OC Brian Schottenheimer the past two years.
My bad on the Mangini relationship with Shippposted previously. :bag:

 
....seriously.... Adrian Peterson is all but in a Jet uniform. Why did they even bother wasting a 4th on Leon Washington? The management in NY needs to be gutted.
That was rich. BTW, Washington has looked very good in TC, both out of the backfield and lining up in the slot occassionally. Nice CoP RB.
Great... don't they already have two CoP RBs in Houston and Blaylock? And don't tell me Houston has the make-up of a starter.didn't realize the entire F.O. was already gutted :bag:
If you didn't know that the entire Jets organization WAS gutted this year.... your opinion on Houston holds little water. Yeah, that Washington pick was just awful, being the 7th player the Jets drafted and all. Washington is better between the tackles than Blaylock is besides. Going BPA with a team's seventh player in one draft is really putrid drafting..... you digging this hole with a shovel, or a back-hoe?
 
....seriously.... Adrian Peterson is all but in a Jet uniform. Why did they even bother wasting a 4th on Leon Washington? The management in NY needs to be gutted.
That was rich. BTW, Washington has looked very good in TC, both out of the backfield and lining up in the slot occassionally. Nice CoP RB.
Great... don't they already have two CoP RBs in Houston and Blaylock? And don't tell me Houston has the make-up of a starter.didn't realize the entire F.O. was already gutted :bag:
If you didn't know that the entire Jets organization WAS gutted this year.... your opinion on Houston holds little water. Yeah, that Washington pick was just awful, being the 7th player the Jets drafted and all. Washington is better between the tackles than Blaylock is besides. Going BPA with a team's seventh player in one draft is really putrid drafting..... you digging this hole with a shovel, or a back-hoe?
:goodposting: :own3d: This apsoulli person does not seem to know what he is talking about.
 
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....seriously.... Adrian Peterson is all but in a Jet uniform. Why did they even bother wasting a 4th on Leon Washington? The management in NY needs to be gutted.
That was rich. BTW, Washington has looked very good in TC, both out of the backfield and lining up in the slot occassionally. Nice CoP RB.
Great... don't they already have two CoP RBs in Houston and Blaylock? And don't tell me Houston has the make-up of a starter.didn't realize the entire F.O. was already gutted :bag:
If you didn't know that the entire Jets organization WAS gutted this year.... your opinion on Houston holds little water. Yeah, that Washington pick was just awful, being the 7th player the Jets drafted and all. Washington is better between the tackles than Blaylock is besides. Going BPA with a team's seventh player in one draft is really putrid drafting..... you digging this hole with a shovel, or a back-hoe?
So you do think Houston can be a full time back? :scared:I stand by my claim that it was a questionable pick. Why draft mid-round RBs two straight years especially with two RBs that were already higher on the depth chart.I don't argue with the theory of picking BPA, but when you have GAPING holes at several kety positions, then it becomes a question as to weather a guy that might very well be nothnig beter than a 3rd down back is really worth it at that point.For the record, I loved the rest of the Jets' draft, and I was kidding about them having to gut the F.O.It's just sad to see the worst franchise in the NFL making things even worse.As for JetsWillWin, lets just say that's an inside joke between us.After all, he should be the one analyzing the Jets since he's a huge Jets (Drew Bledsoe?) fan.
 

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