Curtis Martin worried about knee (1 Viewer)

[Browns Rule!]

Maybe they could talk Maurice Clarrett to come back into the NFL???

 

[Kiddnets]

Chase

The reports I read were the Saints were demanding a hell of a lot more than the 29th and a 3rd rder - I read a 1st next year had to be included. Jets ultimately deemed that the demands were to high for Bush.

Great point on D Williams/Addai though - should have traded up to get one of them.

Info is tough to get in this new age without media friendly Hermie. Take it for what its worth. I was looking at CuMart as a possible #3/4 RB - now I would wait untiil a late rd flyer if hes still there

 

[JayMan]

Once again, the anonymous team official strikes. It's better than nothing, because I'm sure they're right more than say a random article generator would be, but I'm far from convinced.The Jets could have traded for Reggie Bush, but didn't. If they really thought Martin was done, I believe they would have. And since we don't know who the team official is, we have no idea if this is third or fourth hand information. Maybe Martin said to Mangini, 'I don't know where I'm going to be in 6 months, health-wise, and if you think you can get Reggie, well I won't be mad and I'll support the decision.'

I certainly agree with you Chase - the J-E-T-S would have made a run for Bush in that case... but who's telling us that they didn't? Initially, they would have been negociating with the Texans - and all of a sudden - they need to talk to the Saints, that must have been more than pleased to see Bush fall to them - thus, being very harsh in their negociations with the Jets...Again, this is all assumptions on my part... no facts / links here

The Jets had a firm offer from NO. IIRC, it involved giving up the 29th pick and maybe a third rounder. If the Jets were desperate for a runner, they would have been more likely to make that move.

I didn't know that - thanks for the info! Further information that the "anonymous" report might be boggus...

Let's not kid ourselves in thinking that they won't have a top10 pick next year...

I really don't think anyone on the Jets team or Jets staff or Jets management thinks the Jets are going to have a top-10 pick next year.

From the inside - they might not think that they are going to get a top-10 pick - Yet, every '07 mock I have seen (I know, it's way too early) think they will...

What makes me believe that this "anonymous team offical" story is boggus is the fact that, with the 29th pick this year - the J-E-T-S could have picked Addai or White (or at least force the Colts to trade up and get more if they really targeted Mangold) if they knew all along...My 2 cents

Excellent point. Jets could have also traded up for DeAngelo Williams.

 

[Chase Stuart]

ChaseThe reports I read were the Saints were demanding a hell of a lot more than the 29th and a 3rd rder - I read a 1st next year had to be included. Jets ultimately deemed that the demands were to high for Bush. Great point on D Williams/Addai though - should have traded up to get one of them.Info is tough to get in this new age without media friendly Hermie. Take it for what its worth. I was looking at CuMart as a possible #3/4 RB - now I would wait untiil a late rd flyer if hes still there

For fantasy purposes I'd probably downgrade him a little. It's hard not to, because even an incremental chance of getting 0 points kills a player's value.

 

[cstu]

Once again, the anonymous team official strikes. It's better than nothing, because I'm sure they're right more than say a random article generator would be, but I'm far from convinced.The Jets could have traded for Reggie Bush, but didn't. If they really thought Martin was done, I believe they would have. And since we don't know who the team official is, we have no idea if this is third or fourth hand information. Maybe Martin said to Mangini, 'I don't know where I'm going to be in 6 months, health-wise, and if you think you can get Reggie, well I won't be mad and I'll support the decision.' Without any reliable quotes, this story doesn't add any more information than what we have, which is Martin's currently in one of three situations:1) He's done and the Jets are being quiet about it so they could trade for a RB2) The Jets are being honest, he's not done but he's rehabbing. He could be fine by the time the season starts.3) Martin's fine now, but the Jets don't want him to go through Mangini's tough practices.At this point, we just don't know what situation it is. One writer who claims to have some source in the organization and likes to sell newspapers argues that it's the first one. I've seen other writers argue that it's the other two. We're not going to know for awhile, I'd imagine.To address the other two issues...1) It's laughable to suggest that the Jets will pack it in this year IN AUGUST.2) I think Jets fans are split close to 50/50 about who is better, Blaylock or Houston. I firmly reside in the Blaylock camp, as I'm impressed that he put up numbers equal to Larry Johnson and Priest Holmes when in Kansas City. No, not 'he put up great numbers but was in KC', but he put up numbers equal to what we think two of the best RBs of the last five years have done.That being said, we haven't seen Blaylock stay healthy long-term or excel for the Jets. I don't think Blaylock's a big injury risk going forward, and I think his size is fine. But whether Blaylock's a little better than Houston or Houston's a little better than Blaylock, I see no reason for the Jets not to have a committee this year. The team would probably be better for it, unless one emerges as a star.

I also believe the Jets will be RBBC, but I don't see Blaylock emerging as a star. Blaylock had his best game and only one over 100 yards against the Saints' 2nd worst rush defense in the NFL in 2004. His other good game was the fluke 4 TD game when he got the last 3 TD's after the game was already a blowout. Those two game represent 1/3 of his career yards and 1/2 his TD's. I think he's a good back and nice receiver, but if he hadn't had the benefit of the Chiefs OL then he'd wouldn't be thought of as more than Kevin Faulk.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

Once again, the anonymous team official strikes. It's better than nothing, because I'm sure they're right more than say a random article generator would be, but I'm far from convinced.The Jets could have traded for Reggie Bush, but didn't. If they really thought Martin was done, I believe they would have. And since we don't know who the team official is, we have no idea if this is third or fourth hand information. Maybe Martin said to Mangini, 'I don't know where I'm going to be in 6 months, health-wise, and if you think you can get Reggie, well I won't be mad and I'll support the decision.'

I certainly agree with you Chase - the J-E-T-S would have made a run for Bush in that case... but who's telling us that they didn't? Initially, they would have been negociating with the Texans - and all of a sudden - they need to talk to the Saints, that must have been more than pleased to see Bush fall to them - thus, being very harsh in their negociations with the Jets...Again, this is all assumptions on my part... no facts / links hereProbably that they think they are comfortable with picking D'Brick in this draft - go with Houston/Blaylock for a year - and hoping to grab CuMar replacement's in next year's draft (Adrian Peterson - if they get a top pick - if not: Michael Bush or Marshawn Lynch) - Let's not kid ourselves in thinking that they won't have a top10 pick next year...What makes me believe that this "anonymous team offical" story is boggus is the fact that, with the 29th pick this year - the J-E-T-S could have picked Addai or White (or at least force the Colts to trade up and get more if they really targeted Mangold) if they knew all along...My 2 cents

I think this is flawed logic. The JETS are not a "win now" team and Curtis Martin is a relic, whether or not they are able to squeeze one more, at this stage, medicore year out of his body. Curtis was a warrior in the truest sense, but at age 33 he is nothing more than a "stop-gap". There is no way that rebuilding JETS organization would have "drafted differently" in the early rounds of this past year's draft depending upon Martin's health. In either case they need to address the RB position for either 2006 or 2007, so it has to be addressed. Quality RBs can be drafted from any draft position just about any year. JETS opted to sure up the O-line and get a QB of the future and wait until 2007 to draft a new RB. This approach would not have changed had they known then what they know now.

 

[Z-Dog]

Yeah, I'm not a big believer in Blaylock either. I mean, I think the Jets will give him a shot, and I like his value in draft leagues, but that's not the same as thinking he will win the job. Actually, given his importance on a ST player, I think the Jets would much prefer him as an offensive role player.

I also don't think you can infer much based on the choice not to draft an RB in the early rounds. Even if Martin said that the team should consider taking an RB early, Martin's not a doctor or a GM. Looking at the needs at O-line, QB and reshaping the defensive personnel for the 3-4 scheme, it's easy to see why RB was the position that fell out of favor. Would you rather have one of the top C prospects of the last few years in the first round, or a guy who wasn't even the full-time starter in college (Addai) ? And there was no chance the Jets were going to spend a whole lot of picks on Reggie Bush, no matter how the media spun it. The price to move up was sky-high.

I think the Jets looked at their team and said that Martin would have a reduced role, and mentor the younger backs while providing some stability and consistency. Houston, Blaylock, and Washington would fight it out to see who had a long-term future with the team and who did not. But Martin hasn't been able to play much (and it's total BS that he's being spared a tough camp - he's tougher on himself in his training regimen, which he hasn't done this year b/c his body can't handle it). So now they have Houston, Blaylock, and Washington. None of them has looked like the answer in camp, and so the team is monitoring up to 12 other backs. I expect that those backs fall into various categories, from 'would definitely be the starter but we'd have to pay a 1st-day pick (T.Jones, C.Brown)' to 'would play a role if he got cut (maybe Artose Pinner, C.Cobbs). I'm sure that the list shrunk by two guys when Bennet and Moe Williams found new teams.

 

[zamboni]

I think this is flawed logic. The JETS are not a "win now" team and Curtis Martin is a relic, whether or not they are able to squeeze one more, at this stage, medicore year out of his body.

I agree that Curtis is almost certainly done, but the Jets aren't a "win now" team?During pre-season, EVERY team is a win-now team or at least playing/preparing as if they want to win this year. Otherwise, they have no business being in football, and won't be in a job for long.

 

[Reaper]

Once again, the anonymous team official strikes. It's better than nothing, because I'm sure they're right more than say a random article generator would be, but I'm far from convinced.The Jets could have traded for Reggie Bush, but didn't. If they really thought Martin was done, I believe they would have.

Disagree....I think Bush would have been a real bad pick for the Jets... BUILD THE OL FIRST!!!!!! - Let it jell, see what Houston / Blaylock can do and then if need be you add the top draft pick RB next year as icing on the cake...No reason to Overspend on Bush or overspend on a FA RB....Sit back and let it come to you, the Jets are in a great position to allow this OL to jell BEFORE putting some high priced RB back there to get Killed.

 

[NFZ]

Artose Pinner should be available. He is a decent option.

Have you seen him play? They'd be better of trying to get Micheal 'the burner" Turner.

Yes, and the only viable option that appears better than him is Chris Brown. The rest of the field unproven.

 

[broncofan13000]

Once again, the anonymous team official strikes. It's better than nothing, because I'm sure they're right more than say a random article generator would be, but I'm far from convinced.The Jets could have traded for Reggie Bush, but didn't. If they really thought Martin was done, I believe they would have.

Disagree....I think Bush would have been a real bad pick for the Jets... BUILD THE OL FIRST!!!!!! - Let it jell, see what Houston / Blaylock can do and then if need be you add the top draft pick RB next year as icing on the cake...No reason to Overspend on Bush or overspend on a FA RB....Sit back and let it come to you, the Jets are in a great position to allow this OL to jell BEFORE putting some high priced RB back there to get Killed.

:adrianpeterson:

 

[Reaper]

Once again, the anonymous team official strikes. It's better than nothing, because I'm sure they're right more than say a random article generator would be, but I'm far from convinced.The Jets could have traded for Reggie Bush, but didn't. If they really thought Martin was done, I believe they would have.

Disagree....I think Bush would have been a real bad pick for the Jets... BUILD THE OL FIRST!!!!!! - Let it jell, see what Houston / Blaylock can do and then if need be you add the top draft pick RB next year as icing on the cake...No reason to Overspend on Bush or overspend on a FA RB....Sit back and let it come to you, the Jets are in a great position to allow this OL to jell BEFORE putting some high priced RB back there to get Killed.

:adrianpeterson:

ROOL:It's the MASTER PLAN.... Just let it work... Giving up 2nd or 3rd round pick up for a Hack RB at ths point would be a huge waste of what I see is a great opportunity to let the team develop and grow at the proper pace.....

 

[Bri]

I think years later the Jets could have had the best draft ever for that franchise if they landed a LT and C that will play for 10 years or so. Bush or not, I think in the long run it's gonna be hard to top that draft.

It may not be they drafted "the next" Mawae and Roaf but what if it is? or what if they simply play at a high level for years? I really like those picks a ton and I'm a pats fan.

 

[Kiddnets]

I think years later the Jets could have had the best draft ever for that franchise if they landed a LT and C that will play for 10 years or so. Bush or not, I think in the long run it's gonna be hard to top that draft. It may not be they drafted "the next" Mawae and Roaf but what if it is? or what if they simply play at a high level for years? I really like those picks a ton and I'm a pats fan.

I agree - how good would that draft be if the JEts landed an above avg LT, C....and QB (Clemmens is looking good) in one draft! I think its very possible. Plus with the two 2nd rd picks next year along with a likely top 10 1st rder - they can stock up on RB/WR next year. As a Jet fan I just want to see the team develop this year! Anything further would be a big bonus!!

 

[redman]

Once again, the anonymous team official strikes. It's better than nothing, because I'm sure they're right more than say a random article generator would be, but I'm far from convinced.The Jets could have traded for Reggie Bush, but didn't. If they really thought Martin was done, I believe they would have.

Disagree....I think Bush would have been a real bad pick for the Jets... BUILD THE OL FIRST!!!!!! - Let it jell, see what Houston / Blaylock can do and then if need be you add the top draft pick RB next year as icing on the cake...No reason to Overspend on Bush or overspend on a FA RB....Sit back and let it come to you, the Jets are in a great position to allow this OL to jell BEFORE putting some high priced RB back there to get Killed.

 

[wannabee]

Jets | Team rumored to have interest in Suggs

Published Mon Aug 7 9:10:00 p.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Tom Rock, of New York Newsday, reports the New York Jets are rumored to have an interest in Cleveland Browns RB Lee Suggs.

 

[ChampBailey24]

Heh, the Jets made the right decision. They're gonna build a solid OLine, let it develop and then draft a RB.

 

[Boone22]

I'm surprised we have really heard much "offical" mention of Duckett. I know he was mentioned a few times in this thread by posters but has anyone else mentioned him in connection with the Jets?

 

[Kiddnets]

Info coming in getting worse - I am officially avoiding C MArt - shame, he was a warrior!

(KFFL) Randy Lange, of the Bergen Record, reports speculation is mounting that New York Jets RB Curtis Martin (knee) could be moved from the active/physically-unable-to-perform list to the reserve/physically-unable-to-perform list next month and would miss the first half of the season

 

[zamboni]

Info coming in getting worse - I am officially avoiding C MArt - shame, he was a warrior! (KFFL) Randy Lange, of the Bergen Record, reports speculation is mounting that New York Jets RB Curtis Martin (knee) could be moved from the active/physically-unable-to-perform list to the reserve/physically-unable-to-perform list next month and would miss the first half of the season

:( I sure hope team brass knows what they're doing with Houston, Blaylock and Washington. If they saw this coming, they have a lot of explaining to do as to why they didn't shore up the position earlier.

 

[Two Deep]

I'm surprised we have really heard much "offical" mention of Duckett. I know he was mentioned a few times in this thread by posters but has anyone else mentioned him in connection with the Jets?

-- Jets Looking for a RB --Tue Aug 8, 2006 --from FFMastermind.comESPN reports the New York Jets are looking into trading for Titans RB Chris Brown or Falcons RB T.J. Duckett. The New York Daily News adds the Jets are deeply concerned about RB Curtis Martin (knee), who may not be ready for the regular season. Meanwhile, Titans GM Floyd Reese said through a team spokesman that he hasn't had any discussions with the Jets about Brown

 

[Kit Fisto]

For fantasy purposes I'd probably downgrade him a little. It's hard not to, because even an incremental chance of getting 0 points kills a player's value.

See: Tatum Bell.

 

[Kiddnets]

I'm surprised we have really heard much "offical" mention of Duckett. I know he was mentioned a few times in this thread by posters but has anyone else mentioned him in connection with the Jets?

-- Jets Looking for a RB --Tue Aug 8, 2006 --from FFMastermind.comESPN reports the New York Jets are looking into trading for Titans RB Chris Brown or Falcons RB T.J. Duckett. The New York Daily News adds the Jets are deeply concerned about RB Curtis Martin (knee), who may not be ready for the regular season. Meanwhile, Titans GM Floyd Reese said through a team spokesman that he hasn't had any discussions with the Jets about Brown

What were the Falcons looking for Duckett? I would deal a 2nd day pick for the best RB out there - nothing higher - a 4th rder should be able to land something. If not stick with the comittee.

 

[Rovers]

I also read a report that Martin was seen limping, but there is no need to panic. This team is rebuilding. An RB should be the last piece of the puzzle, and the Jets still need more pieces. One year of RBBC won't hurt the team, and it also gives a few players a chance to prove some of the doubters wrong. As a Jets fan, I have no problem with going Blaylock, Houston, Washington.... and Askew did OK late last year. Nick Hartigan isn't fast, but this rookie drags people with him when he runs too.

I think it would be a mistake to use a second rounder on Brown (runs too upright, and has another turf toe problem like Coles) or a Duckett... or any cast off RB. The Jets should have 4 picks in the top 75 in next year's draft.... they need all 4 of them.

 

[Z-Dog]

For a guy with better career stats than any RB taken since 2003 aisde from Larry Johnson, Willis McGahee and Dom Davis (who is not a fair comparison b/c he had three years as a starter to everyone else's two years), Brown gets no respect.

Go look - Brown has better numbers than Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, even Steven Jackson. But I guess that upright running style, you konw, the one that Erik Dickerson rode to the hall of fame, is just too much to overcome.

 

[purestrength]

Lee Suggs can probably be had for peanuts and would actually put up good numbers -- all together now -- if he could stay healthy.

 

[Kit Fisto]

For a guy with better career stats than any RB taken since 2003 aisde from Larry Johnson, Willis McGahee and Dom Davis (who is not a fair comparison b/c he had three years as a starter to everyone else's two years), Brown gets no respect.Go look - Brown has better numbers than Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, even Steven Jackson. But I guess that upright running style, you konw, the one that Erik Dickerson rode to the hall of fame, is just too much to overcome.

"Chris Brown runs too upright" ...the mantra for the uninformed.

 

[msommer]

I'd be surrised if the Titans would take less than a 2nd right now - at least until they see what they have in LenDale.

 

[cstu]

Lee Suggs can probably be had for peanuts and would actually put up good numbers -- all together now -- if he could stay healthy.

He's probably going to be cut, no reason to trade for him.

 

[Rovers]

For a guy with better career stats than any RB taken since 2003 aisde from Larry Johnson, Willis McGahee and Dom Davis (who is not a fair comparison b/c he had three years as a starter to everyone else's two years), Brown gets no respect.Go look - Brown has better numbers than Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, even Steven Jackson. But I guess that upright running style, you konw, the one that Erik Dickerson rode to the hall of fame, is just too much to overcome.

So..... Brown is Erik Dickerson now, eh? He also has turf toe, a condition that never gets better, only worse, and is easy to aggrivate. Look at Coles.... he's still good, but he isn't the WR he used to be before the turf toe problem. How many times did I think I would ride Brown to a win, only to see him sit out the second half? He's sitting at 100 yards at the half... and my silly local has a bonus at every 10 yards over a hundred... and Brown sits out the second half. Let me ask this: If Brown is so good, so reliable, why did the Titans go out and get Henry, and then draft White? Could it be becasue he gets dinged so often?

 

[Z-Dog]

For a guy with better career stats than any RB taken since 2003 aisde from Larry Johnson, Willis McGahee and Dom Davis (who is not a fair comparison b/c he had three years as a starter to everyone else's two years), Brown gets no respect.Go look - Brown has better numbers than Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, even Steven Jackson. But I guess that upright running style, you konw, the one that Erik Dickerson rode to the hall of fame, is just too much to overcome.

So..... Brown is Erik Dickerson now, eh? He also has turf toe, a condition that never gets better, only worse, and is easy to aggrivate. Look at Coles.... he's still good, but he isn't the WR he used to be before the turf toe problem. How many times did I think I would ride Brown to a win, only to see him sit out the second half? He's sitting at 100 yards at the half... and my silly local has a bonus at every 10 yards over a hundred... and Brown sits out the second half. Let me ask this: If Brown is so good, so reliable, why did the Titans go out and get Henry, and then draft White? Could it be becasue he gets dinged so often?

I'm not an expert on turf toe (but neither are you). I'd bet you couldn't name another 5 guys who had turf toe without googling it. I'll save you the trouble - here are some guys with turf toe:Warrick Dunn Steve McNair Lamont Jordan Isaac BruceJeremey ShockeyTravis HenryTerrel OwensMichael ClaytonDominic RhodesAre all of these guys on your 'do not draft list' ? Like every other injury, turf toe has various degrees, and affects different players in different ways. Brown missed a few games two years ago because of the toe, but played in 15 of 16 games last year, and had nearly 1200 total yards.I'm not saying Brown is dickerson. I'm jsut saying that he's gotten slapped with a label that makes people underestimate his talent and ignore his true value. There is no doubt that he needs to be paired with a short yardage back, but so does Julius Jones. Kevin jones needs a complementary pass-catcher. So what? This guy makes things happen when he's in space, and the Jets desperately need an exlposive guy in their offense.

 

[Rovers]

For a guy with better career stats than any RB taken since 2003 aisde from Larry Johnson, Willis McGahee and Dom Davis (who is not a fair comparison b/c he had three years as a starter to everyone else's two years), Brown gets no respect.Go look - Brown has better numbers than Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, even Steven Jackson. But I guess that upright running style, you konw, the one that Erik Dickerson rode to the hall of fame, is just too much to overcome.

So..... Brown is Erik Dickerson now, eh? He also has turf toe, a condition that never gets better, only worse, and is easy to aggrivate. Look at Coles.... he's still good, but he isn't the WR he used to be before the turf toe problem. How many times did I think I would ride Brown to a win, only to see him sit out the second half? He's sitting at 100 yards at the half... and my silly local has a bonus at every 10 yards over a hundred... and Brown sits out the second half. Let me ask this: If Brown is so good, so reliable, why did the Titans go out and get Henry, and then draft White? Could it be becasue he gets dinged so often?

I'm not an expert on turf toe (but neither are you). I'd bet you couldn't name another 5 guys who had turf toe without googling it. I'll save you the trouble - here are some guys with turf toe:Warrick Dunn Steve McNair Lamont Jordan Isaac BruceJeremey ShockeyTravis HenryTerrel OwensMichael ClaytonDominic RhodesAre all of these guys on your 'do not draft list' ? Like every other injury, turf toe has various degrees, and affects different players in different ways. Brown missed a few games two years ago because of the toe, but played in 15 of 16 games last year, and had nearly 1200 total yards.I'm not saying Brown is dickerson. I'm jsut saying that he's gotten slapped with a label that makes people underestimate his talent and ignore his true value. There is no doubt that he needs to be paired with a short yardage back, but so does Julius Jones. Kevin jones needs a complementary pass-catcher. So what? This guy makes things happen when he's in space, and the Jets desperately need an exlposive guy in their offense.

I would draft Brown, but that isn't the context I was talking about here. My take was as a Jets fan. I would draft Coles too. For me, as a Jets fan, no, I don't want to give up a second round pick on Brown. There are also varying degrees of that dreaded turf toe injury. Coles' is pretty bad, but he plays through it. Lost some speed, but he plays. Brown has missed some games due to it, that tells me it's more than a nuisacne injury. I just think it's foolish for a team that most likely has litle shot at the playoffs until 2008 (maybe 2007 if everything goes perfectly) on a RB that has Brown's injury history. I'd much rather use a high pick next year to get an RB, maybe even packaging some picks for Peterson if need be. Brown draftable? Sure. As a Jet? No thank you.

 

[Kit Fisto]

I just think it's foolish for a team that most likely has litle shot at the playoffs until 2008 (maybe 2007 if everything goes perfectly) on a RB that has Brown's injury history.

I'd much rather use a high pick next year to get an RB, maybe even packaging some picks for Peterson if need be. Brown draftable? Sure. As a Jet? No thank you.

Ah, the ol' "Putting the cart before the horse" philosophy. Jets fans are already pencilling in Adrien Peterson as their pick next year? What guarantees you'll get the #1? I think SF, Houston, Tennessee, and GB all have a legit shot at drafting #1 next year too. What's to say those won't "tank" or as some of you have put it... "let their players develop"? NFL franchises play to win, every single game, every single year. If they are not committed to winning, no one fills the seats and buys the concessions. If I was a Jets fan, and the front office tried selling me on Blaylock and Houston, when you could have had Chris Brown for a 3rd, I'd give my tix back and become a Giants fan.

 

[amnesiac]

Lee Suggs can probably be had for peanuts and would actually put up good numbers -- all together now -- if he could stay healthy.

He's probably going to be cut, no reason to trade for him.

wouldn't he have to clear waivers first? isn't that why teams usually trade a low pick for someone who was going to be cut anyway? i only ask because i'm a big Suggs fan, and would love for him to get one more chance to be a #1 RB.

 

[Rovers]

I just think it's foolish for a team that most likely has litle shot at the playoffs until 2008 (maybe 2007 if everything goes perfectly) on a RB that has Brown's injury history.

I'd much rather use a high pick next year to get an RB, maybe even packaging some picks for Peterson if need be. Brown draftable? Sure. As a Jet? No thank you.

Ah, the ol' "Putting the cart before the horse" philosophy. Jets fans are already pencilling in Adrien Peterson as their pick next year? What guarantees you'll get the #1? I think SF, Houston, Tennessee, and GB all have a legit shot at drafting #1 next year too. What's to say those won't "tank" or as some of you have put it... "let their players develop"? NFL franchises play to win, every single game, every single year. If they are not committed to winning, no one fills the seats and buys the concessions. If I was a Jets fan, and the front office tried selling me on Blaylock and Houston, when you could have had Chris Brown for a 3rd, I'd give my tix back and become a Giants fan.

Maybe you didn't read my post.... either that, or your reading comprehension isn't very good. I said "even trade up for Peterson if need be". Who said Brown was gettable for a third? That I might do.... not one of the second rounders though. The FO isn't selling anything... where do you come up with this stuff? The Jets are rebuilding.... if you don't realize that, there is little point in further discussion. The days of the 5 year rebuld are gone, yes, without a doubt, but this team needs more than one year to be competitive. You sound like some of the delusionals at the Jets message boards.... win this year... yeah, right.

 

[renesauz]

I just wish I had seen all of this BEFORE I drafted him in my Anarchy league. A full season of ZEROs before the season even starts is hard to swallow.

I drafted him late enough that I wasn't worried that he was on his last legs, but I expected SOME production :(

 

[derek19]

Just read on KFFL that the Jets are interested in Michael Turner of SD and Shipp of AZ.

EDIT to add:

(KFFL) Ken Berger, of Newsday, reports New York Jets RB Curtis Martin (knee) has a "bone-on-bone" condition in his surgically repaired right knee. The team's coaching staff is now wondering if he can play at all in 2006. "The guy is bone-on-bone on the knee and can't play," a person with knowledge of Martin's injury said Tuesday, speaking on condition of anonymity. "No one has said he's not going to play, but I don't know how much more they're going to get out of the guy." The person confirmed earlier reports that Martin has virtually no cartilage in his right knee, which was repaired arthroscopically in December. Martin was seen walking with a distinct limp Sunday, Aug. 6, at Giants Stadium, where the Jets held an intrasquad scrimmage. It was quite a contrast to the last time reporters saw Martin for any extended period, at the June minicamp, when he ran and performed individual drills.

 

[cstu]

Just read on KFFL that the Jets are interested in Michael Turner of SD and Shipp of AZ.

EDIT to add:

(KFFL) Ken Berger, of Newsday, reports New York Jets RB Curtis Martin (knee) has a "bone-on-bone" condition in his surgically repaired right knee. The team's coaching staff is now wondering if he can play at all in 2006. "The guy is bone-on-bone on the knee and can't play," a person with knowledge of Martin's injury said Tuesday, speaking on condition of anonymity. "No one has said he's not going to play, but I don't know how much more they're going to get out of the guy." The person confirmed earlier reports that Martin has virtually no cartilage in his right knee, which was repaired arthroscopically in December. Martin was seen walking with a distinct limp Sunday, Aug. 6, at Giants Stadium, where the Jets held an intrasquad scrimmage. It was quite a contrast to the last time reporters saw Martin for any extended period, at the June minicamp, when he ran and performed individual drills.

I'm sure they are but the Chargers won't let him go for anything less than a 1st. Crazy, I know but he's a restricted free agent next year and they need him to spell LT.

 

[cstu]

Lee Suggs can probably be had for peanuts and would actually put up good numbers -- all together now -- if he could stay healthy.

He's probably going to be cut, no reason to trade for him.

wouldn't he have to clear waivers first? isn't that why teams usually trade a low pick for someone who was going to be cut anyway? i only ask because i'm a big Suggs fan, and would love for him to get one more chance to be a #1 RB.

Good point. I'm a fan too and a low pick would be worth it for the Jets.

 

[derek19]

Just read on KFFL that the Jets are interested in Michael Turner of SD and Shipp of AZ.

EDIT to add:

(KFFL) Ken Berger, of Newsday, reports New York Jets RB Curtis Martin (knee) has a "bone-on-bone" condition in his surgically repaired right knee. The team's coaching staff is now wondering if he can play at all in 2006. "The guy is bone-on-bone on the knee and can't play," a person with knowledge of Martin's injury said Tuesday, speaking on condition of anonymity. "No one has said he's not going to play, but I don't know how much more they're going to get out of the guy." The person confirmed earlier reports that Martin has virtually no cartilage in his right knee, which was repaired arthroscopically in December. Martin was seen walking with a distinct limp Sunday, Aug. 6, at Giants Stadium, where the Jets held an intrasquad scrimmage. It was quite a contrast to the last time reporters saw Martin for any extended period, at the June minicamp, when he ran and performed individual drills.

I'm sure they are but the Chargers won't let him go for anything less than a 1st. Crazy, I know but he's a restricted free agent next year and they need him to spell LT.

They let Jesse Chatman go didn't they? IIRC, he was just as good as turner backing up LT2....