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Cutler against Miami Def (1 Viewer)

cgcloutier

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Miami def has been anything but spectacular however Chicago gives up a ton sacks and Cutler is always good for a few picks.....

I am rolling with them tonight, but wanted to see what other sharks were doing?

 
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contrary to popular opinion, Cutler is not good for "a few picks" a game.

 
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Figure 4-5 sacks and 1 int, Miami D will probably have around 6-7 points. Bears will put up yards and points though and have a good special teams, so I don't expect Miami to have a shot at a KRTD or PRTD.

 
Cutler looked surprisingly agile avoiding the rush last week and the week before. And he's only thrown more than 1 pick twice this year. I don't think Miami D is a bad play, but I wouldn't expect gaudy numbers.

 
Ugh. I hate thinking about starting Cutler this week, but I only have him, Fitzpatrick and Thigpen.

These Thursday night teams don't get to game plan and revert to more of a base offense. For Martz that could mean a bunch of 7 step drops, i dunno. Last week Matt Ryan said they opened the game with the no-huddle because it is the thing they practice every week and they felt they could without practicing due to having so many reps in the preseason and during every normal week of practice.

What will Martz do? Could this be another 4 TD or 4 int game for Cutler?

I haven't the slightest idea.

 
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Ugh. I hate thinking about starting Cutler this week, but I only have him, Fitzpatrick and Thigpen.These Thursday night teams don't get to game plan and revert to more of a base offense. For Martz that could mean a bunch of 7 step drops, i dunno. Last week Matt Ryan said they opened the game with the no-huddle because it is the thing they practice every week and they felt they could without practicing due to having so many reps in the preseason and during every normal week of practice.What will Martz do? Could this be another 4 TD or 4 int game for Cutler?I haven't the slightest idea.
On the flip side, Thigpen hasn't had time to prepare with the first team, or time to prepare and study the Bear's D. It could mean a lot of 3 and outs and more possessions for Cutler. Not very many people run on the Bears.
 
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I hate thinking about starting Cutler this week, but I only have him, Fitzpatrick
Same here, and I'm rolling with Cutler. Fitzpatrick might be a safer choice, but it's potentially boom or bust with Cutler...and what fun is being safe? In his two previous Thursday games he had 447 passing yards and 3TDs in one game, and five INTs in the other.
 
Are there stats out there on offensive production in Thursday games? It feels like a lot of teams come out really flat...or maybe it's just the listless production values of the NFL network broadcast.

Either way I think I'm avoiding Cutler on a short week against a team that gets after the QB. I love having a guy going to make Thursday night more interesting, but I can't afford the risk of Cutler getting hurt and having a 1 point day a la week 4.

 
two_dollars said:
275 - 2 - 1contrary to popular opinion, Cutler is not good for "a few picks" a game.
He's thrown:0 picks - in 3 games1 pick - in 3 games (one of those he didn't play the second half because of concussion)4 picks - in 1 game2 picks - in 1 game9 picks in 8 games = 1.125 picks/game
 
Sacks is a different story:

1 sack - in 2 games

2 sacks - in 1 game

3 sacks - in 1 game

4 sacks - in 2 games

6 sacks - in 1 game

9 sacks - in 1 game (basically 1 half)

25 sacks in 8 games = 3.125 sacks/game

 
pantagrapher said:
Cutler looked surprisingly agile avoiding the rush last week and the week before. And he's only thrown more than 1 pick twice this year. I don't think Miami D is a bad play, but I wouldn't expect gaudy numbers.
Few have picked up on this ^^ but the Bears line has been showing gradual improvement since the game against the Skins.
 
I fear these primetime games for Cutler, but the line has been doing a better job, only 1 sack in each of the last 2 games. And like someone above said he has been scrambling all over the place with some nice big runs.

Every week for this Bear offense is a coin flip though. Could be a disaster, or could be good. Almost impossible to predict.

 
Sacks is a different story:1 sack - in 2 games2 sacks - in 1 game3 sacks - in 1 game4 sacks - in 2 games6 sacks - in 1 game9 sacks - in 1 game (basically 1 half)25 sacks in 8 games = 3.125 sacks/game
It's a different story when you look at the trend since the 9 sack game:96412The past two games in particular are the ones where Martz has opted for more balanced play-calling.
 
Thigpen and the MIA offense might not fair well vs CHI D, giving Cutler good field position and maybe some instant redzone looks.

 
pantagrapher said:
Cutler looked surprisingly agile avoiding the rush last week and the week before. And he's only thrown more than 1 pick twice this year. I don't think Miami D is a bad play, but I wouldn't expect gaudy numbers.
he has always been mobile. it shouldnt be a surprise. in denver, shanny created a number of rollouts where he thrived. also check his rushing stats over the years.
 
Sacks is a different story:1 sack - in 2 games2 sacks - in 1 game3 sacks - in 1 game4 sacks - in 2 games6 sacks - in 1 game9 sacks - in 1 game (basically 1 half)25 sacks in 8 games = 3.125 sacks/game
It's a different story when you look at the trend since the 9 sack game:96412The past two games in particular are the ones where Martz has opted for more balanced play-calling.
And played against 2 teams with anemic pass rushes.Miami has 23 sacks on the year.The Bills and Vikings have combined for 27.
 
Cutler is a must start for me tonight over Fitzpatrick a start 2 QB league where I get a point per completion.

DId someone say the weather was supposed to be bad in Miami?

 
listen. Miami doesn't have Henne or Pennington. It will have a hard time getting its offense going against the tough Chicago defense.

Cutler will have more opportunities. He won't put up tons of points but he won't do so badly because of good field position. He's a decent low QB2 play this week.

 
I think I will take my chances tonight with the Mia D trying to contain and stop Cutler as opposed to my other D the Giants tring to contain and stop Vick on Sunday.

 
Cutler is a must start for me tonight over Fitzpatrick a start 2 QB league where I get a point per completion.DId someone say the weather was supposed to be bad in Miami?
I'm rolling with Kitna and Hill over cutler this week in a 2QB, FWIW.
 
Miami could be in for a rough night... lots of 3 & out's (potentially).

I agree with a previous poster that the Bears O-line seems to be improving with each game. Provided Cutler doesn't get knocked out, he could have a really good game (maybe a GREAT game if your league doesn't penalize for INT's).

 
How's the weather supposed to be, pass friendly? weather.com had around 70 with only 20% chance of rain, but im in Jersey lets hear from someone that knows better

 
Maybe I'm alone here, but I could see Thigpen starting being a good thing for Miami. He's got great mobility and has been in the offense for over a year, he's also got a pretty good track record of success. I don't think we'll see just a bunch of three and outs for Miami. I could see Thigpen holding onto this job whether Henne is healthy or not.

As for Cutler, yes the sacks have been down the last two weeks, but Buffalo and Minnesota have two of the worst pass rushes in the NFL. Neither is even remotely as good as Miami.

I'd feel comfortable starting Miami's D this week. Actually, looking at the schedule they have, this could be the beginning of a pretty nice run for them.

 
Maybe I'm alone here, but I could see Thigpen starting being a good thing for Miami. He's got great mobility and has been in the offense for over a year, he's also got a pretty good track record of success. I don't think we'll see just a bunch of three and outs for Miami. I could see Thigpen holding onto this job whether Henne is healthy or not.

As for Cutler, yes the sacks have been down the last two weeks, but Buffalo and Minnesota have two of the worst pass rushes in the NFL. Neither is even remotely as good as Miami.

I'd feel comfortable starting Miami's D this week. Actually, looking at the schedule they have, this could be the beginning of a pretty nice run for them.
True. Yet he still couldn't win the job over Henne.Short work week too for his first start. But I could see him being a viable FF QB as weeks tick by and he gets his game back.

 
Maybe I'm alone here, but I could see Thigpen starting being a good thing for Miami. He's got great mobility and has been in the offense for over a year, he's also got a pretty good track record of success. I don't think we'll see just a bunch of three and outs for Miami. I could see Thigpen holding onto this job whether Henne is healthy or not.

As for Cutler, yes the sacks have been down the last two weeks, but Buffalo and Minnesota have two of the worst pass rushes in the NFL. Neither is even remotely as good as Miami.

I'd feel comfortable starting Miami's D this week. Actually, looking at the schedule they have, this could be the beginning of a pretty nice run for them.
True. Yet he still couldn't win the job over Henne.Short work week too for his first start. But I could see him being a viable FF QB as weeks tick by and he gets his game back.
I kinda see this being another Kolb/Vick thing, though obviously on a smaller scale. Like Vick, Thigpen never had a chance to win the starting job in camp. But its very easy to see Thigpen playing well for 2-3 weeks and then Miami releasing a statement saying that even though believe Henne has all the tools and will be a great QB, that Thigpen is their guy. I feel like Miami is a lot better team than most people think. With a bit of a spark on offense and possible better quarterbacking, its possible they could be a serious playoff contender right now just like Philly.

 
Miami's D is stout but they don't have as many big plays/takeaways. I played them out of necessity but I'm not expecting anything better than 7-9 points.

 
I'm starting Kitna over Cutler knowing full well that my mess of a QB committee is entirely of my own doing.

 
Starting Dan Carpentar. Hoping Miami D knocks the crap outta Jay and gives the inept Miami redzone O good field position. Another 5 for 5 night for Carpentar.......I hope.

 
pantagrapher said:
Cutler looked surprisingly agile avoiding the rush last week and the week before. And he's only thrown more than 1 pick twice this year. I don't think Miami D is a bad play, but I wouldn't expect gaudy numbers.
Why was it surprising? He has always been athletic enough to run if the protection breaks down and he has been known to be very good on roll outs, even going back to the Denver games. Just because people form biased opinions without looking at facts does not make it a fact. Tools like Mark Schelereth (who hates Cutler because he decided the Broncos are a garbage run organization and wanted out) just spewing nonsense because they have a forum to speak on the topic, but that does not make it fact. Cutler has had 9 ints in 8 games....that is really not so bad, especially given the Bears do not have any WR that can outmuscle any DB and that they are all learning a new offense, which is known to be a difficult offense.
 
I think people are underestimating Thigpen and the Miami offense. He played well during his stint in KC and the dolphins didn't seem to skip a beat (and possibly even looked better) when Henne got knocked out.

The Bears are perhaps the worst 6-3 team in the league. 5 of their wins have come against the cowboys, bills, lions, panthers, and vikings, with a whopping 9 wins combined. The bears D will be effective early, but if Cutler can't keep them off the field, I expect the fins to eventually turn the tables in the running game. I think Cutler's good for 2 TOs en route to a dolphins win.

 
Maybe I'm alone here, but I could see Thigpen starting being a good thing for Miami. He's got great mobility and has been in the offense for over a year, he's also got a pretty good track record of success. I don't think we'll see just a bunch of three and outs for Miami. I could see Thigpen holding onto this job whether Henne is healthy or not.
While I like Henne....I also like Thigpen in KC and was in favor of them keeping him instead of spending the $$$ to get Cassel.He is mobile...and can extend plays. I don't see the Dolphins running game doing much tonite....but perhaps Thigpen could make plays.
 
The Bears are perhaps the worst 6-3 team in the league. 5 of their wins have come against the cowboys, bills, lions, panthers, and vikings, with a whopping 9 wins combined. The bears D will be effective early, but if Cutler can't keep them off the field, I expect the fins to eventually turn the tables in the running game. I think Cutler's good for 2 TOs en route to a dolphins win.
The Bears 3 losses have come from the Giants(6-3 and in first place), Seattle(5-4 and in first place), Washington(4-5). Two of the losses by 3 points each...in the first games of Cutler back from his concussion which made the first loss happen. They can only play who is on the schedule....but they didn't lose to chumps.
 
benson_will_lead_the_way said:
chinawildman said:
The Bears are perhaps the worst 6-3 team in the league. 5 of their wins have come against the cowboys, bills, lions, panthers, and vikings, with a whopping 9 wins combined. The bears D will be effective early, but if Cutler can't keep them off the field, I expect the fins to eventually turn the tables in the running game. I think Cutler's good for 2 TOs en route to a dolphins win.
The Bears 3 losses have come from the Giants(6-3 and in first place), Seattle(5-4 and in first place), Washington(4-5). Two of the losses by 3 points each...in the first games of Cutler back from his concussion which made the first loss happen. They can only play who is on the schedule....but they didn't lose to chumps.
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Sweetness_34 said:
username said:
Cutler just got sacked while I was typing this.
:D 1 sack in the last 2 games, but do not let facts get in the way of your hatred and ignorance! And that included the mighty Jared Allen.
um... sacked 3 times in the last two games, 30 times sacked for the season, sacked more than any other QB in the league despite missing a game. Next up is McNabb who has been sacked 24x. Thems the facts.I think Cutler just got sacked again while you were reading this.
 
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benson_will_lead_the_way said:
chinawildman said:
The Bears are perhaps the worst 6-3 team in the league. 5 of their wins have come against the cowboys, bills, lions, panthers, and vikings, with a whopping 9 wins combined. The bears D will be effective early, but if Cutler can't keep them off the field, I expect the fins to eventually turn the tables in the running game. I think Cutler's good for 2 TOs en route to a dolphins win.
The Bears 3 losses have come from the Giants(6-3 and in first place), Seattle(5-4 and in first place), Washington(4-5). Two of the losses by 3 points each...in the first games of Cutler back from his concussion which made the first loss happen. They can only play who is on the schedule....but they didn't lose to chumps.
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Washington has beat: Dallas, Eagles, Green Bay, and Chicago.

Seattle: Arizona X2, SD, Chicago, 49ers. Seattle has taken a bad dive in the past 3 weeks getting beaten badly by Oakland and Giants....but are still first in the division...despite the worst division in football...doesn't make them a chump.

I would think the Pats and Saints losing to Browns/Cardinals is more in the chump category.

 
chinawildman said:
I think people are underestimating Thigpen and the Miami offense. He played well during his stint in KC and the dolphins didn't seem to skip a beat (and possibly even looked better) when Henne got knocked out.

The Bears are perhaps the worst 6-3 team in the league. 5 of their wins have come against the cowboys, bills, lions, panthers, and vikings, with a whopping 9 wins combined. The bears D will be effective early, but if Cutler can't keep them off the field, I expect the fins to eventually turn the tables in the running game. I think Cutler's good for 2 TOs en route to a dolphins win.
The play tonight is the under.
 
benson_will_lead_the_way said:
chinawildman said:
The Bears are perhaps the worst 6-3 team in the league. 5 of their wins have come against the cowboys, bills, lions, panthers, and vikings, with a whopping 9 wins combined. The bears D will be effective early, but if Cutler can't keep them off the field, I expect the fins to eventually turn the tables in the running game. I think Cutler's good for 2 TOs en route to a dolphins win.
The Bears 3 losses have come from the Giants(6-3 and in first place), Seattle(5-4 and in first place), Washington(4-5). Two of the losses by 3 points each...in the first games of Cutler back from his concussion which made the first loss happen. They can only play who is on the schedule....but they didn't lose to chumps.
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Washington has beat: Dallas, Eagles, Green Bay, and Chicago.

Seattle: Arizona X2, SD, Chicago, 49ers. Seattle has taken a bad dive in the past 3 weeks getting beaten badly by Oakland and Giants....but are still first in the division...despite the worst division in football...doesn't make them a chump.

I would think the Pats and Saints losing to Browns/Cardinals is more in the chump category.
Sorry but the skins and hawks are not "good " teams... The browns are a better team than both. The fact that the bears lost to seattle at home (hawks are a terrible road team) is as indicative of their mediocrity as anything...
 
benson_will_lead_the_way said:
chinawildman said:
The Bears are perhaps the worst 6-3 team in the league. 5 of their wins have come against the cowboys, bills, lions, panthers, and vikings, with a whopping 9 wins combined. The bears D will be effective early, but if Cutler can't keep them off the field, I expect the fins to eventually turn the tables in the running game. I think Cutler's good for 2 TOs en route to a dolphins win.
The Bears 3 losses have come from the Giants(6-3 and in first place), Seattle(5-4 and in first place), Washington(4-5). Two of the losses by 3 points each...in the first games of Cutler back from his concussion which made the first loss happen. They can only play who is on the schedule....but they didn't lose to chumps.
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Washington has beat: Dallas, Eagles, Green Bay, and Chicago.

Seattle: Arizona X2, SD, Chicago, 49ers. Seattle has taken a bad dive in the past 3 weeks getting beaten badly by Oakland and Giants....but are still first in the division...despite the worst division in football...doesn't make them a chump.

I would think the Pats and Saints losing to Browns/Cardinals is more in the chump category.
Sorry but the skins and hawks are not "good " teams... The browns are a better team than both. The fact that the bears lost to seattle at home (hawks are a terrible road team) is as indicative of their mediocrity as anything...
Never said either team was "good"...just indicated that they weren't "chumps".

 

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