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Maybe players should stop trying to reach for the end zone it would been 1st and goal at the 1 if he just tucks it in.

 
Why does fumbling through the endzone = automatic turnover but fumbling out of bounds = dead ball.

Makes no sense, at all.  Spot it at the point they used to snap extra points.  

 
culdeus said:
Why does fumbling through the endzone = automatic turnover but fumbling out of bounds = dead ball.

Makes no sense, at all.  Spot it at the point they used to snap extra points.  
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Or don't fumble the ball?  Stop blaming the rules for player's mistakes.

 
Dumbest rule in sports. It's basically a double penalty -- 20 yards PLUS a turnover. It should be one or the other, but not both.

 
[scooter] said:
Dumbest rule in sports. It's basically a double penalty -- 20 yards PLUS a turnover. It should be one or the other, but not both.
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Not a double penalty.  A touch back.

Great rule.  Don't mean to be a jerk about it but these players are bone head stupid.

As for all the people complaining, I thought you guys were supposed to understand the game and its rules.

 
[scooter] said:
Dumbest rule in sports. It's basically a double penalty -- 20 yards PLUS a turnover. It should be one or the other, but not both.
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Dumbest players in sports.

Why put the ball in a precarious spot to reach for the pylon and risk possession (and in this case, the game) when the alternative is that you get the ball 1st and goal at the half yard line if you don't make it?

 
It's a dumb rule.  Also, Carr was dumb to fumble there, it's not like they just put that rule in yesterday.  You KNOW you can't fumble it there.  Hold the ball, run out of bounds, Take 2 shots into the endzone from there (maybe even run it with Lynch there).

 
Lynch extra dumb there too because if Carr had hit out before he fumbled that would have been brought all the way back to the 16.

 
The touchback / end zone / fumble rule is fine. 

The rule that is the dumbest in sports is that DPI is a spot foul. 

It assumes the catch, which is ridiculous. Especially in light of how incredibly precise the rules of what constitutes a catch are these days (e.g. 2 feet, possession, football move, control, etc) - so if a catch is that friggin complicated, why are they assuming a catch for a ball that wasn’t even caught and assessing what can amount to 40-50-60-70-80 yards? 

Utterly stupid. Worst rule in sports. 50 yard Hail Mary that’s barely catchable into double coverage & if the DB interferes in the end zone it’s 1st and goal at the 1? 

Way too much impact on a game with a judgement call. 

Make it 15 yards, 1st down FFS. 

ETA: Crabtree played it perfectly - vet play. But it shouldn’t be a 50 yard play. 

Carr’s fumble wouldn’t have even come up if not for that. 

 
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[scooter] said:
It's the only rule in the NFL where you lose 20 yards AND the ball. 
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Any familiarity with the NFL at all?

Its a touch back.  what happens when a fumble is recovered by the defense in the end-zone; or intercepted in the end zone? or a kick-off downed in the end-zone?

Essentially, they give the defense the equivalent of a recovery when you fumble through the end zone.

 
DropKick said:
Essentially, they give the defense the equivalent of a recovery when you fumble through the end zone.
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Right. The rules reward the defense for doing something that it didn't do. The defense gets a turnover whether they recover the ball or not. That's dumb.

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
The touchback / end zone / fumble rule is fine. 

The rule that is the dumbest in sports is that DPI is a spot foul. 

It assumes the catch, which is ridiculous. Especially in light of how incredibly precise the rules of what constitutes a catch are these days (e.g. 2 feet, possession, football move, control, etc) - so if a catch is that friggin complicated, why are they assuming a catch for a ball that wasn’t even caught and assessing what can amount to 40-50-60-70-80 yards? 

Utterly stupid. Worst rule in sports. 50 yard Hail Mary that’s barely catchable into double coverage & if the DB interferes in the end zone it’s 1st and goal at the 1? 

Way too much impact on a game with a judgement call. 

Make it 15 yards, 1st down FFS. 

ETA: Crabtree played it perfectly - vet play. But it shouldn’t be a 50 yard play. 

Carr’s fumble wouldn’t have even come up if not for that. 
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15 yards is t punitive enough.   Team needs to drive the field.  Throw a deep pass. Just haul the guy down. 15 yards?  Big deal.  Just maul him.  

 
zoonation said:
15 yards is t punitive enough.   Team needs to drive the field.  Throw a deep pass. Just haul the guy down. 15 yards?  Big deal.  Just maul him.  
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Then it should be reviewable. 

Because no judgement call should be worth what’s essentially a free gift TD. 

Often the ball isn’t catchable. Sometimes the WR falls down. 

DPI rules are clearly defined. Make it reviewable, or make it a 15 yard penalty. 

Cant be a non-renewable spot foul. 

 
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