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McFadden's value couldn't be any lower than it is right now. Teams that spent an early round pick on him are likely near the point (dynasty league excluded) where they aren't even starting him. I know the toe has been an issue, and those nagging injuries can linger all year. I haven't been able to see the Raiders play this year, and don't know much about the new coach...however, I have to think at some point they are going to want to see what the #1 overall pick can do for the offense. I have been kicking around some trade offers for DMac and was just looking for some insight from other sharks before pulling the trigger.

 
I just traded for him in a Keeper Leauge. The other owner had 2 good backs and needed WR help to try and win this year.

 
I have 'em in one redraft... and Im not selling at all.

When I drafted him it was with an eye towards the second half of the season. (weeks 10-17). And hopefully some spot starts along the way. Nothings changed for me. Only way I would move him is if I could get a better year end finisher at RB, doubtful to be offered that in a trade.

It was dissapointing for him to get hurt and slow things up.

 
He sucks. The Raiders are terrible.

Trade him while you can still find people who think he's going to be a stud.

 
I'm holding onto him, but mainly out of stubborn pride. He's no Clinton Portis 2002, that's for sure. I think it will be RBBC all year, even if McFadden is healthy. If anything, they'll give all 3 RBs a chance to audition for 2009.

 
I own him in a re-draft & I'd advise to stay away. Unless you're in my league, then please buy.

At this point, I'd trade him for any decent RB I could plug in at RB2.

 
Yeah, trade for Mendenhall or Tashard Choice instead.
Both guys definitely offer better risk/reward propositions.I'd gladly take Mendenhall over McFadden.
Youre the only one.
I doubt that. Mendenhall is what he is. He's not a gamebreaker, but he's a solid back who should take over that starting role and produce top 10-15 type numbers once Parker is out of the picture. He's a nice acquisition for rebuilding teams looking 1-2 years down the line. McFadden has looked very pedestrian to me and he's stuck on a horrible organization. I can see him going down as one of the biggest RB busts of the past decade given how high he was chosen in the draft. He still has time to turn it around, but the early results haven't been encouraging. At this point it's futile to point fingers and say "I told you so." Neither of these two has played enough to definitively prove anything, so whether or not you like them really comes down to your pre-established opinion of their prospects. I always thought McFadden was massively overvalued. He hasn't done anything to change my mind, so I'm sticking with that assessment. There are least 6-7 rookies in this class that are higher on my board in PPR dynasty.
 
Buy in dynasty for sure. The toe is the problem here. This guy is good, as in REAL good and will be the real deal. He is a future star, when he is fully healthy he's going to be a top RB.

I disagree with EBF on this one, I respect EBF's opinion enough though and will be buying low on Mendenhall in dynastys.

 
Buy in dynasty for sure. The toe is the problem here. This guy is good, as in REAL good and will be the real deal. He is a future star, when he is fully healthy he's going to be a top RB. I disagree with EBF on this one, I respect EBF's opinion enough though and will be buying low on Mendenhall in dynastys.
Mendenhall is a good buy low right now, but only because he can be had for next to nothing. Anyone who would prefer Mendenhall to Mcfadden right now is either insane, or just saying that to save face. Anyway, i am not about to get into a three page thread about it again. We are through more than 1/3 of the season, and so far it is pretty safe to say that Mcfadden, Chris Johnson, and Matt Forte are better than Mendenhall, Ray Rice and Tashard Choice. EBF, sometimes its OK to admit that you are wrong.
 
traded in dynasty last week. McFadden and my first pick next year for Andre Johnson and a second rounder next year. PPR league with 0.5 for RBs and 1.0 for WRs. The picks will likely be around 12th of 14 for my first and around 19 for the second, so likely a drop of sevenish or so.

 
Mendenhall is a good buy low right now, but only because he can be had for next to nothing. Anyone who would prefer Mendenhall to Mcfadden right now is either insane, or just saying that to save face. Anyway, i am not about to get into a three page thread about it again. We are through more than 1/3 of the season, and so far it is pretty safe to say that Mcfadden, Chris Johnson, and Matt Forte are better than Mendenhall, Ray Rice and Tashard Choice. EBF, sometimes its OK to admit that you are wrong.
I don't think there's any strong evidence to suggest McFadden > Mendenhall. I would still take Rashard over DMC in dynasty leagues. I definitely think Forte > Choice and Johnson > Rice as of right now. However, it's important to note that only two of those guys are competing with Pro Bowl type RBs for touches. One of the main lessons this RB class is teaching me is the importance of opportunity. Almost without exception, the rookie RBs who are having the best seasons are the guys who had the weakest competition for touches (Forte, CJ, Slaton). That's not such a big shocker. You can't produce when you aren't getting carries. On the flipside, almost any stiff in the NFL can produce decent results if you feed him the ball 15-20 times. Look at what Correll Buckhalter and Mewelde Moore did recently. If they were rookies people would probably be touting them as the next star RBs. You have to have some perspective. It's important to remember that you shouldn't use short term results to judge long term rankings. Every FF player on the planet would've traded Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, or Santana Moss for Anthony Thomas after their rookie seasons. I vividly recall the days when it was fashionable to call Larry Johnson and Aaron Rodgers draft busts. My point here is that you have to give guys time to develop. What we think of these rookies is different than what we thought of them 6 months ago. What we think of them 6 years from now will be different from what we think of them today. So coming here and saying, "You were wrong about Mendenhall" is just silly this early in the game. Mendenhall looks about how I thought he'd look and I think he'll be a solid starter when he gets his opportunity 1-2 years from now. As for McFadden, I never really felt his game fit the mold of an elite FF back. He showed some flashes in that KC game, but has otherwise looked ordinary. That includes the preseason when he was 100% healthy. Add in the fact that he's stuck on a rudderless Oakland Raiders organization and there's certainly some cause for concern. He's still ranked pretty high and there are still people who think he's a star in waiting, so I think it makes a lot of sense to move him.
 
Buy in dynasty for sure. The toe is the problem here. This guy is good, as in REAL good and will be the real deal. He is a future star, when he is fully healthy he's going to be a top RB.

I disagree with EBF on this one, I respect EBF's opinion enough though and will be buying low on Mendenhall in dynastys.
Mendenhall is a good buy low right now, but only because he can be had for next to nothing. Anyone who would prefer Mendenhall to Mcfadden right now is either insane, or just saying that to save face. Anyway, i am not about to get into a three page thread about it again. We are through more than 1/3 of the season, and so far it is pretty safe to say that Mcfadden, Chris Johnson, and Matt Forte are better than Mendenhall, Ray Rice and Tashard Choice. EBF, sometimes its OK to admit that you are wrong.
It's getting awful close to the time when you have to consider using the ignore function here. Too bad you can't specify topics for the ignore function to target.
 
Mendenhall is a good buy low right now, but only because he can be had for next to nothing. Anyone who would prefer Mendenhall to Mcfadden right now is either insane, or just saying that to save face. Anyway, i am not about to get into a three page thread about it again. We are through more than 1/3 of the season, and so far it is pretty safe to say that Mcfadden, Chris Johnson, and Matt Forte are better than Mendenhall, Ray Rice and Tashard Choice. EBF, sometimes its OK to admit that you are wrong.
I don't think there's any strong evidence to suggest McFadden > Mendenhall. I would still take Rashard over DMC in dynasty leagues. I definitely think Forte > Choice and Johnson > Rice as of right now. However, it's important to note that only two of those guys are competing with Pro Bowl type RBs for touches. One of the main lessons this RB class is teaching me is the importance of opportunity. Almost without exception, the rookie RBs who are having the best seasons are the guys who had the weakest competition for touches (Forte, CJ, Slaton). That's not such a big shocker. You can't produce when you aren't getting carries. On the flipside, almost any stiff in the NFL can produce decent results if you feed him the ball 15-20 times. Look at what Correll Buckhalter and Mewelde Moore did recently. If they were rookies people would probably be touting them as the next star RBs. You have to have some perspective. It's important to remember that you shouldn't use short term results to judge long term rankings. Every FF player on the planet would've traded Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, or Santana Moss for Anthony Thomas after their rookie seasons. I vividly recall the days when it was fashionable to call Larry Johnson and Aaron Rodgers draft busts. My point here is that you have to give guys time to develop. What we think of these rookies is different than what we thought of them 6 months ago. What we think of them 6 years from now will be different from what we think of them today. So coming here and saying, "You were wrong about Mendenhall" is just silly this early in the game. Mendenhall looks about how I thought he'd look and I think he'll be a solid starter when he gets his opportunity 1-2 years from now. As for McFadden, I never really felt his game fit the mold of an elite FF back. He showed some flashes in that KC game, but has otherwise looked ordinary. That includes the preseason when he was 100% healthy. Add in the fact that he's stuck on a rudderless Oakland Raiders organization and there's certainly some cause for concern. He's still ranked pretty high and there are still people who think he's a star in waiting, so I think it makes a lot of sense to move him.
I never said Mendenhall was a bust, but i had him ranked well behind Mcfadden during the offseason, and to this point he hasnt done anything to make me think any differently. He has actually looked worse than i thought he would, injury aside. Sure, opportunity helps, but so what, it is almost as important as talent. Addai was considered a top 5 dynasty back going into this year(not by me) based almost solely on opportunity/situation. Of course there are rookie RB's who have good rookie years then become complete busts, but there are plenty more who continue to have some degree of success. Plus, isnt a good rookie year a better sign of things to come as opposed to college/combine performances? Im not jumping on the Slaton bandwagon because of what he has done, i liked him before he was drafted, just like you did Mendenhall. So obviously i think there is more to him than just oppotunity. As far as Mcfadden looking ordinary, i disagree, but i think people tend to see the things theyre looking for. He averaged over 5 YPC during the preseason, and is right around that now in the regular season, and most of that is while playing with turftoe. He has easily looked better to me than Mendenhall, and the stats agree with me.When it comes to rookie RB's in dynasty leagues, how long can owners really wait. Not many people look further than 2-3 years down the road in dynasty leagues. I think it is safe to say Mendenhall wont have much value over that time, and it might be longer if FWP signs a contract extension. Even if Forte turns out to be an average talent, but puts up decent numbers over the next few year based more on situation, wouldnt you rather that than waiting for 2,3,4 years to see if Mendenhall is the real deal? Even if you think Mendenhall is going to be a good RB, there are no guarantees, and you have to probably wait a few years to find out if you are right. No thanks, give me Mcfadden, Forte, Stewart or CJ...and yes, Slaton.
 
It's important to remember that you shouldn't use short term results to judge long term rankings. Every FF player on the planet would've traded Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, or Santana Moss for Anthony Thomas after their rookie seasons. I vividly recall the days when it was fashionable to call Larry Johnson and Aaron Rodgers draft busts. My point here is that you have to give guys time to develop. What we think of these rookies is different than what we thought of them 6 months ago. What we think of them 6 years from now will be different from what we think of them today. So coming here and saying, "You were wrong about Mendenhall" is just silly this early in the game. Mendenhall looks about how I thought he'd look and I think he'll be a solid starter when he gets his opportunity 1-2 years from now.
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He sucks. The Raiders are terrible.Trade him while you can still find people who think he's going to be a stud.
I like EBF's analysis and like him I felt and still do that McFadden is overrated--but I think you have to reassess at this point. While he is no AP, he is a talented back. How durable will he be? Hard to say and his injuries this season are troubling. Still, I have watched all the Raider games this year and I think they have run the ball pretty well, Russell has looked promising, and so I think there is alot of upside there. McFadden has run with greater strength than we were led to believe. Again, my only worry with him is durability.
 
It's important to remember that you shouldn't use short term results to judge long term rankings. Every FF player on the planet would've traded Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, or Santana Moss for Anthony Thomas after their rookie seasons. I vividly recall the days when it was fashionable to call Larry Johnson and Aaron Rodgers draft busts. My point here is that you have to give guys time to develop. What we think of these rookies is different than what we thought of them 6 months ago. What we think of them 6 years from now will be different from what we think of them today. So coming here and saying, "You were wrong about Mendenhall" is just silly this early in the game. Mendenhall looks about how I thought he'd look and I think he'll be a solid starter when he gets his opportunity 1-2 years from now.
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You quoted the wrong person here, EBF said that, not me.
 
I'd hurry and buy low:

From today's Contra Costa times:

McFadden’s right turf toe has improved to the point where Cable said he didn’ t have his protective boot on Monday. He is hoping McFadden will practice Wednesday and said the injury has slowed the Raiders ability to give McFadden more of a role in the passing game and with the “Wildcat” formation.

 
As an owner, what's the point of trading a player when his value is at rock bottom?

I have him and see no point in trading him for garbage. I might as well just wait and pray for him to get 100% healthy and start playing well in the 2nd half of the season. At this point it would certainly be a nice gift.

 
I'd hurry and buy low:

From today's Contra Costa times:

McFadden’s right turf toe has improved to the point where Cable said he didn’ t have his protective boot on Monday. He is hoping McFadden will practice Wednesday and said the injury has slowed the Raiders ability to give McFadden more of a role in the passing game and with the “Wildcat” formation.
he no longer had the little "red cross" on his name on my sportsline lineup.
 
Raiders almost traded Michael Bush at the last-minute then pulled out. But maybe that tells us they're feeling better about McFadden's health.

At this point, Al Davis the Raiders probably have two primary goals for the rest of the year: make Jamarcus Russell and Darren McFadden into stars or at least see what they have there. It's the only light they have. So I'd expect Mcfadden to have a very nice second half.

 
Buy low and buy quickly.

Kiffin was Fargas' biggest supporter and they were shopping Bush. McFadden should be getting 20 touches a game as soon as he's deemed healthy, possibly this week.

I'd start Morris over McFadden, but that's only because anybody can run wild on Denver.

 
I play in a keeper league I am trying to trade him to a owner who is 0-6 for Steve Smith (CAR). That's where I think the value is for McFadden in keeper and dynasty. This owner is out of it and he can buid for next year.

 
From Roto:

Darren McFadden suffered a setback in his recovery from a lingering turf toe injury. He was limited in Thursday's practice.McFadden is walking gingerly again and the Oakland Tribune is concerned that the first-round pick may not be healthy for the rest of the season. However, McFadden insists he's fine, calling it "just a little (soreness). I got back on the field and I’m good." Even if he plays, McFadden isn't getting enough carries to be close to a fantasy option in Week 8 against Baltimore. Oct. 23 - 6:20 pm et
 
From Roto:

Darren McFadden suffered a setback in his recovery from a lingering turf toe injury. He was limited in Thursday's practice.

McFadden is walking gingerly again and the Oakland Tribune is concerned that the first-round pick may not be healthy for the rest of the season. However, McFadden insists he's fine, calling it "just a little (soreness). I got back on the field and I’m good." Even if he plays, McFadden isn't getting enough carries to be close to a fantasy option in Week 8 against Baltimore. Oct. 23 - 6:20 pm et
Apparently "Roto" hasn't heard of PPR leagues or seen my roster. :lmao:
 
From Roto:

Darren McFadden suffered a setback in his recovery from a lingering turf toe injury. He was limited in Thursday's practice.

McFadden is walking gingerly again and the Oakland Tribune is concerned that the first-round pick may not be healthy for the rest of the season. However, McFadden insists he's fine, calling it "just a little (soreness). I got back on the field and I’m good." Even if he plays, McFadden isn't getting enough carries to be close to a fantasy option in Week 8 against Baltimore. Oct. 23 - 6:20 pm et
Apparently "Roto" hasn't heard of PPR leagues or seen my roster. :thumbup:
After this week against a great Run D would be the best time to buy..
 
I own McFadden in a 10 team redraft league

It appears to be time to cut bait with him, with guys like Curtis Philly and Avery STL on the waiver wire could be more help then he every will

 

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