Darrius Heyward-Bey (1 Viewer)

[Scrappy Doo]

I know, I know......DHB has been very busty thus far but.......

-probably the only WR1 (on his own team) still on your waiver wire

-Crazy Al Davis will apparently never let him get benched

-he was targeted a team high 7 times in week one (almost twice as much as Jacoby Ford)

-Ford is now dealing with a hammy

-hyped up rookie Denarius Moore only had 1 target and no catches in week 1

-the Raiders rushing offense is damn good so opposing Ds have to focus on stopping the run

-Jason Campbell isn't that bad, he actually does throw a nice deep ball - the only pattern DHB runs

-bonus factoid: 3rd year WR

Anyone expecting anything from this guy?

 

[duaneok66]

I like him and I think he has a decent year - he is still a first round talent that hasn't quite mastered route running yet - maybe he has the third year breakout and does something . . .

 

[Scrappy Doo]

I like him and I think he has a decent year - he is still a first round talent that hasn't quite mastered route running yet - maybe he has the third year breakout and does something . . .

I'm tempted to use my waiver wire spot on him but I'd be taking him over Randall Cobb, Devery Henderson and Brandon Gibson. (Redraft)

 

[gbill2004]

Isn't Ford the Raiders #1 WR?

 

[Scrappy Doo]

Isn't Ford the Raiders #1 WR?

Shows as the WR2 on ESPN's depth chart.

 

[duaneok66]

ford and DHB start in that offense, i think that 1 and 2 labels are no big deal (obviously the letter designations on the field are an entirely different manner) . . .

 

[duaneok66]

I like him and I think he has a decent year - he is still a first round talent that hasn't quite mastered route running yet - maybe he has the third year breakout and does something . . .

I'm tempted to use my waiver wire spot on him but I'd be taking him over Randall Cobb, Devery Henderson and Brandon Gibson. (Redraft)

would take Henderson in a redraft - he has shown more in his career and has a MUCH better QB and ( i know this is a run on) Moore and Colston are out . . .Gibson??? come on . . .

 

[Scrappy Doo]

Well - whatever - he's the starting WR and he's now the only healthy starting WR. And he's got the speed Crazy Al just can't resist. The question is did anyone see anything on Monday night that would lead you to believe that the lights turn on for this guy this year?

 

[duaneok66]

Well - whatever - he's the starting WR and he's now the only healthy starting WR. And he's got the speed Crazy Al just can't resist. The question is did anyone see anything on Monday night that would lead you to believe that the lights turn on for this guy this year?

eh - I watched the whole game - he caught some balls on in routes which showed a little more than just him going on go patterns - again he has 4.3 speed and acceleration off the line - I say he is worth a gamble . . .

 

[FavreCo]

Well - whatever - he's the starting WR and he's now the only healthy starting WR. And he's got the speed Crazy Al just can't resist. The question is did anyone see anything on Monday night that would lead you to believe that the lights turn on for this guy this year?

Dude is horrible. What I saw was a body catcher. If he has to go up and get a pass, forget it. If he didn't have speed out the ###, he wouldn't even be in the NFL.

 

[DocHolliday]

DHB is worth a stash on the bench. DHB has been a bust so far and I never expect him to be a great WR. However, the Raiders WRs are banged up so DHB will be on the field. We will learn about the WRs as the season progresses. The Raiders will have to the throw the ball more. Denver's run D was not good. Why throw the ball when you can hand it off and get first downs?

 

[Scrappy Doo]

Thanks - I watched as much as I could - saw him kind of break a tackle and recalled the announcers talking about him hopefully developing his routes and toughness a little.

It's funny b/c I'll always remember that draft when the Raiders shocked everyone by reaching for DHB super early even when Crabtree was still on the board - albeit with an injury if I remember correctly - anyway, DHB looked so busty at first but here we are 3 years into this and Crabtree is still dealing with injuries. Maybe DHB proves to be the better pick after all - we'll see......

Would you pick him up over Randall Cobb in a redraft?

Cobb's upside is certainly higher with Rodgers but tough counting on so many guys to go down ahead of him for Cobb to get a lot of playing time at WR.

 

[duaneok66]

Thanks - I watched as much as I could - saw him kind of break a tackle and recalled the announcers talking about him hopefully developing his routes and toughness a little.It's funny b/c I'll always remember that draft when the Raiders shocked everyone by reaching for DHB super early even when Crabtree was still on the board - albeit with an injury if I remember correctly - anyway, DHB looked so busty at first but here we are 3 years into this and Crabtree is still dealing with injuries. Maybe DHB proves to be the better pick after all - we'll see......Would you pick him up over Randall Cobb in a redraft?Cobb's upside is certainly higher with Rodgers but tough counting on so many guys to go down ahead of him for Cobb to get a lot of playing time at WR.

Cobb is not startable in 2011 . . .

 

[Scrappy Doo]

Thanks - I watched as much as I could - saw him kind of break a tackle and recalled the announcers talking about him hopefully developing his routes and toughness a little.It's funny b/c I'll always remember that draft when the Raiders shocked everyone by reaching for DHB super early even when Crabtree was still on the board - albeit with an injury if I remember correctly - anyway, DHB looked so busty at first but here we are 3 years into this and Crabtree is still dealing with injuries. Maybe DHB proves to be the better pick after all - we'll see......Would you pick him up over Randall Cobb in a redraft?Cobb's upside is certainly higher with Rodgers but tough counting on so many guys to go down ahead of him for Cobb to get a lot of playing time at WR.

Cobb is not startable in 2011 . . .

You don't think he leapfrogs Nelson/Jones if there's an injury to Jennings or Driver?

 

[Scrappy Doo]

Well - whatever - he's the starting WR and he's now the only healthy starting WR. And he's got the speed Crazy Al just can't resist. The question is did anyone see anything on Monday night that would lead you to believe that the lights turn on for this guy this year?

Dude is horrible. What I saw was a body catcher. If he has to go up and get a pass, forget it. If he didn't have speed out the ###, he wouldn't even be in the NFL.

I know he's been pretty awful so not trying to defend him too much here but it was a super rainy game last night - still wouldn't totally excuse body catching as a habit but.....

 

[duaneok66]

Thanks - I watched as much as I could - saw him kind of break a tackle and recalled the announcers talking about him hopefully developing his routes and toughness a little.It's funny b/c I'll always remember that draft when the Raiders shocked everyone by reaching for DHB super early even when Crabtree was still on the board - albeit with an injury if I remember correctly - anyway, DHB looked so busty at first but here we are 3 years into this and Crabtree is still dealing with injuries. Maybe DHB proves to be the better pick after all - we'll see......Would you pick him up over Randall Cobb in a redraft?Cobb's upside is certainly higher with Rodgers but tough counting on so many guys to go down ahead of him for Cobb to get a lot of playing time at WR.

Cobb is not startable in 2011 . . .

You don't think he leapfrogs Nelson/Jones if there's an injury to Jennings or Driver?

he is already ahead of Jones IMO - and of course if there is an injury, then he's a factor - but then again you can say that about alot of players on NFL benches . . .

 

[coyote5]

Thanks - I watched as much as I could - saw him kind of break a tackle and recalled the announcers talking about him hopefully developing his routes and toughness a little.It's funny b/c I'll always remember that draft when the Raiders shocked everyone by reaching for DHB super early even when Crabtree was still on the board - albeit with an injury if I remember correctly - anyway, DHB looked so busty at first but here we are 3 years into this and Crabtree is still dealing with injuries. Maybe DHB proves to be the better pick after all - we'll see......Would you pick him up over Randall Cobb in a redraft?Cobb's upside is certainly higher with Rodgers but tough counting on so many guys to go down ahead of him for Cobb to get a lot of playing time at WR.

Cobb is not startable in 2011 . . .

You don't think he leapfrogs Nelson/Jones if there's an injury to Jennings or Driver?

Jones yes, Nelson doubtful.

 

[duaneok66]

Well - whatever - he's the starting WR and he's now the only healthy starting WR. And he's got the speed Crazy Al just can't resist. The question is did anyone see anything on Monday night that would lead you to believe that the lights turn on for this guy this year?

Dude is horrible. What I saw was a body catcher. If he has to go up and get a pass, forget it. If he didn't have speed out the ###, he wouldn't even be in the NFL.

I know he's been pretty awful so not trying to defend him too much here but it was a super rainy game last night - still wouldn't totally excuse body catching as a habit but.....

his hands are definitely his weakness, BUT I still think he is worth a roster spot . . .

 

[Scrappy Doo]

Thanks - I watched as much as I could - saw him kind of break a tackle and recalled the announcers talking about him hopefully developing his routes and toughness a little.It's funny b/c I'll always remember that draft when the Raiders shocked everyone by reaching for DHB super early even when Crabtree was still on the board - albeit with an injury if I remember correctly - anyway, DHB looked so busty at first but here we are 3 years into this and Crabtree is still dealing with injuries. Maybe DHB proves to be the better pick after all - we'll see......Would you pick him up over Randall Cobb in a redraft?Cobb's upside is certainly higher with Rodgers but tough counting on so many guys to go down ahead of him for Cobb to get a lot of playing time at WR.

Cobb is not startable in 2011 . . .

You don't think he leapfrogs Nelson/Jones if there's an injury to Jennings or Driver?

he is already ahead of Jones IMO - and of course if there is an injury, then he's a factor - but then again you can say that about alot of players on NFL benches . . .

Fair enough but not all benchers have Aaron Rodgers and a 2nd round pedigree. But I guess for redraft it depends on your needs for a starter. DHB is at least guaranteed to be starting and getting almost all the offensive snaps.

 

[Bri]

Louis Murphy had surgery and missed week 1. He's slotted to return on 9/25.

He's the least sexy get'r done guy here but if no one has established themselves by then, he'll surely take the spot.

 

[cubbie5150]

He runs really, really fast in a straight line

 

[Scrappy Doo]

Louis Murphy had surgery and missed week 1. He's slotted to return on 9/25.He's the least sexy get'r done guy here but if no one has established themselves by then, he'll surely take the spot.

The thing is though that even though Murphy is certainly more reliable and more polished than DHB, I don't think Al Davis is gonna let the HC bench DHB - no matter what. I mean DHB really can't play any worse than he already has and yet somehow he's still out there starting as their WR1. I'm not saying that's an argument to roster DHB but just saying it keeps DHB on the field and starting - so IF IF IF he can finally "get it", then he COULD surprise. Long shot!

 

[Nick Nasty]

All this talk about his speed - I didn't really see him break away from defenders. He looked pretty average to me.

 

[gbill2004]

Ford is their WR1.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

I could be completely off here, Raiders got off to a lead early, the rain kept coming and going, and the defense played extremely well in the 1h that we probably didn't see much of the passing game potential.

having said that... campbell looked for DHB often. unfortunately campbell did not look good as a passer. i'm sure the rain had something to do with that, so i'll withhold my judgement another game or two. and yes, DHB caught everything with his stomach, not his hands. despite all of the speed at the wide out positions, Raiders looked to be a good run first team. DMC looked really really strong, granted Denver defense didn't put up much of a fight. and if the Raiders defensive front four play most games like they did the first half of last night's game, well then Raiders receivers in general will not have much upside. For now, I see DHB as nothing more than bye week filler with a low end WR2 upside.

 

[pack66]

Thanks - I watched as much as I could - saw him kind of break a tackle and recalled the announcers talking about him hopefully developing his routes and toughness a little.It's funny b/c I'll always remember that draft when the Raiders shocked everyone by reaching for DHB super early even when Crabtree was still on the board - albeit with an injury if I remember correctly - anyway, DHB looked so busty at first but here we are 3 years into this and Crabtree is still dealing with injuries. Maybe DHB proves to be the better pick after all - we'll see......Would you pick him up over Randall Cobb in a redraft?Cobb's upside is certainly higher with Rodgers but tough counting on so many guys to go down ahead of him for Cobb to get a lot of playing time at WR.

Cobb is not startable in 2011 . . .

You don't think he leapfrogs Nelson/Jones if there's an injury to Jennings or Driver?

he is already ahead of Jones IMO - and of course if there is an injury, then he's a factor - but then again you can say that about alot of players on NFL benches . . .

Dude, you're high if you think he's leapfrogged Jones. I'm a huge Cobb supporter, but in now way is he ahead of Jones.Jones has...-experience in the system-talent (albeit with drops, but Cobb hasn't been drop free either)-a history with Rodgers...ergo, timing down, which is important in this system.Cobb has talent and none of the rest. 1 or 2 years down the road, maybe Cobb is ahead of Jones, but not right now and not this season.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

FWIW:

Oakland Raiders head coach Hue Jackson said Tuesday, Sept. 13, that WR Darrius Heyward-Bey is just scratching the surface of what he can do as a receiver. Several times in the Week 1 game against the Denver Broncos, he turned third-down plays into first downs. "I expect more from him. There's a lot more in there," Jackson said. "He's truly coming on."

2011-09-13 21:46:43 | Source: ANG Newspapers - Steve Corkran

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=739992-raiders-darrius-heyward-bey-just-scratching-surface#ixzz1XuCkidvF

 

[bengalbuck]

Thanks - I watched as much as I could - saw him kind of break a tackle and recalled the announcers talking about him hopefully developing his routes and toughness a little.It's funny b/c I'll always remember that draft when the Raiders shocked everyone by reaching for DHB super early even when Crabtree was still on the board - albeit with an injury if I remember correctly - anyway, DHB looked so busty at first but here we are 3 years into this and Crabtree is still dealing with injuries. Maybe DHB proves to be the better pick after all - we'll see......Would you pick him up over Randall Cobb in a redraft?Cobb's upside is certainly higher with Rodgers but tough counting on so many guys to go down ahead of him for Cobb to get a lot of playing time at WR.

Cobb is not startable in 2011 . . .

You don't think he leapfrogs Nelson/Jones if there's an injury to Jennings or Driver?

he is already ahead of Jones IMO - and of course if there is an injury, then he's a factor - but then again you can say that about alot of players on NFL benches . . .

Dude, you're high if you think he's leapfrogged Jones. I'm a huge Cobb supporter, but in now way is he ahead of Jones.Jones has...-experience in the system-talent (albeit with drops, but Cobb hasn't been drop free either)-a history with Rodgers...ergo, timing down, which is important in this system.Cobb has talent and none of the rest. 1 or 2 years down the road, maybe Cobb is ahead of Jones, but not right now and not this season.

I agree with this. I don't have the stats in front of me, but I believe I read that Cobb was in on only 7 offensive snaps vs. New Orleans. Jones was in on over 20.GB with Rodgers spreads it around so much based on matchups that different WR/TEs will have big weeks on a kind of hit or miss basis, but you have to be on the field. I like Cobb a ton in dynasty but in re-draft I don't I can envision a scenario where I'd want him in my starting lineup without at least 2 injuries to Packers WRs.

 

[duaneok66]

Thanks - I watched as much as I could - saw him kind of break a tackle and recalled the announcers talking about him hopefully developing his routes and toughness a little.It's funny b/c I'll always remember that draft when the Raiders shocked everyone by reaching for DHB super early even when Crabtree was still on the board - albeit with an injury if I remember correctly - anyway, DHB looked so busty at first but here we are 3 years into this and Crabtree is still dealing with injuries. Maybe DHB proves to be the better pick after all - we'll see......Would you pick him up over Randall Cobb in a redraft?Cobb's upside is certainly higher with Rodgers but tough counting on so many guys to go down ahead of him for Cobb to get a lot of playing time at WR.

Cobb is not startable in 2011 . . .

You don't think he leapfrogs Nelson/Jones if there's an injury to Jennings or Driver?

he is already ahead of Jones IMO - and of course if there is an injury, then he's a factor - but then again you can say that about alot of players on NFL benches . . .

Dude, you're high if you think he's leapfrogged Jones. I'm a huge Cobb supporter, but in now way is he ahead of Jones.Jones has...-experience in the system-talent (albeit with drops, but Cobb hasn't been drop free either)-a history with Rodgers...ergo, timing down, which is important in this system.Cobb has talent and none of the rest. 1 or 2 years down the road, maybe Cobb is ahead of Jones, but not right now and not this season.

blah blah blah - all that got him was NO interest from other teams that needed a WR and he barely saw the field last week . . .let me rephrase, I don't think anyone (including the Pack coacking staff) is waiting for Jones to "breakout" . . .

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I could be completely off here, Raiders got off to a lead early, the rain kept coming and going, and the defense played extremely well in the 1h that we probably didn't see much of the passing game potential.having said that... campbell looked for DHB often. unfortunately campbell did not look good as a passer. i'm sure the rain had something to do with that, so i'll withhold my judgement another game or two. and yes, DHB caught everything with his stomach, not his hands. despite all of the speed at the wide out positions, Raiders looked to be a good run first team. DMC looked really really strong, granted Denver defense didn't put up much of a fight. and if the Raiders defensive front four play most games like they did the first half of last night's game, well then Raiders receivers in general will not have much upside. For now, I see DHB as nothing more than bye week filler with a low end WR2 upside.

No, I think your assessment is very fair. Campbell didn't look very good in that first game, and needs to improve. This is a run first team, no doubt. So that limits DHB's upside. He has to learn to catch the ball away from his body. Still, he does get separation and is dangerous in the open field once he has the ball. I think he could see a lot of short slants and quick sideline flats to get him the ball in space and rely on his speed to make a play. The Raiders are going to do everything they can to get this guy touches whether he deserves them or not. For opportunity alone, he's got to be rostered as he'll get a starters share of targets. There are worse guys to have on the end of your bench.It's interesting that the FBG's have him on the "upgrade list", but the writeup is less than glowing, and superlatives for DHB are less than inspiring. The term they use is "incremental" improvement. They don't really like him, even though they upgrade him. But then you look at the early week 2 rankings, and he's projected to be a starting WR3. So there seems to be some dissent of opinion within the FBG's on Darrius Heyward Bey.

 

[doeseatplace]

Despite understanding the opportunities here, I just can't do it.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

ford and DHB start in that offense, i think that 1 and 2 labels are no big deal (obviously the letter designations on the field are an entirely different manner) . . .

Ford is the player to have. They will try to get him the ball in a lot of ways.How serious is Ford's hamstring issue though? Did he miss portions of the second half due to injury??

 

[Young 8]

Ford is the player to have. They will try to get him the ball in a lot of ways.

Ford is 5-9, Bey 6-2

Steve Smith is the only succesful Midget WR1 in the NFL, and that was an exception

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Ford is the player to have. They will try to get him the ball in a lot of ways.

Ford is 5-9, Bey 6-2

Steve Smith is the only succesful Midget WR1 in the NFL, and that was an exception

This is a list of players in the league who are and or have been successful for their teams now. Many are WR1's or regardless have been successful and most have lead their team in either catches and or yardage as "midget WR's" at some stage in their careers. Wes Welker 5'9

Greg Jennings 5'11

Santan Moss 5'10

Santonio Holmes 5'10

Percy Harvin 5'11

DeSean Jackson 5'10

Mike Thomas 5'8

Derrick Mason 5'10

Danny Amendola 5'10

Mario Manningham 5'10

Davone Bess 5'10

 

[gbill2004]

So is DHB going to be a stud WR this season?

 

[todisco1]

So is DHB going to be a stud WR this season?

No. But he could improve enough that he deserves a roster spot.

 

[dharmapunk]

Well - whatever - he's the starting WR and he's now the only healthy starting WR. And he's got the speed Crazy Al just can't resist. The question is did anyone see anything on Monday night that would lead you to believe that the lights turn on for this guy this year?

Dude is horrible. What I saw was a body catcher. If he has to go up and get a pass, forget it. If he didn't have speed out the ###, he wouldn't even be in the NFL.

This.From what I saw in preseason and week 1, the guy has awful receiving instincts. He just doesn't know how to go up and get the ball, doesn't run good routes, doesn't look the ball into his body or know how to stay in bounds on sideline catches. He's a track runner in pads. I can't understand how he was so highly thought of coming out of Maryland. Did he just blow people away with his speed in college and get so wide open a blind man could catch the ball?

 

[pack66]

Thanks - I watched as much as I could - saw him kind of break a tackle and recalled the announcers talking about him hopefully developing his routes and toughness a little.It's funny b/c I'll always remember that draft when the Raiders shocked everyone by reaching for DHB super early even when Crabtree was still on the board - albeit with an injury if I remember correctly - anyway, DHB looked so busty at first but here we are 3 years into this and Crabtree is still dealing with injuries. Maybe DHB proves to be the better pick after all - we'll see......Would you pick him up over Randall Cobb in a redraft?Cobb's upside is certainly higher with Rodgers but tough counting on so many guys to go down ahead of him for Cobb to get a lot of playing time at WR.

Cobb is not startable in 2011 . . .

You don't think he leapfrogs Nelson/Jones if there's an injury to Jennings or Driver?

he is already ahead of Jones IMO - and of course if there is an injury, then he's a factor - but then again you can say that about alot of players on NFL benches . . .

Dude, you're high if you think he's leapfrogged Jones. I'm a huge Cobb supporter, but in now way is he ahead of Jones.Jones has...-experience in the system-talent (albeit with drops, but Cobb hasn't been drop free either)-a history with Rodgers...ergo, timing down, which is important in this system.Cobb has talent and none of the rest. 1 or 2 years down the road, maybe Cobb is ahead of Jones, but not right now and not this season.

blah blah blah - all that got him was NO interest from other teams that needed a WR and he barely saw the field last week . . .let me rephrase, I don't think anyone (including the Pack coacking staff) is waiting for Jones to "breakout" . . .

Point is, he's not ahead of Jones, nor will he be this year. And with all the weapons in GB, and the type of offense they have (spread it around), no one is going to be "the" guy to have (except Jennings and Finley). Thus, Cobb isn't draftable in re-draft leagues. Dynasty...absolutely pick him up, but not on re-draft.

 

[duaneok66]

we can agree to disagree -

no biggie . . .

 

[Irish Chaos]

thoughts on ford being out this week....?

 

[duaneok66]

thoughts on ford being out this week....?

DHB is nicked up this week as well - even if he plays, he's not startable in Buffalo . . .

 

[Bruno2]

Well - whatever - he's the starting WR and he's now the only healthy starting WR. And he's got the speed Crazy Al just can't resist. The question is did anyone see anything on Monday night that would lead you to believe that the lights turn on for this guy this year?

Dude is horrible. What I saw was a body catcher. If he has to go up and get a pass, forget it. If he didn't have speed out the ###, he wouldn't even be in the NFL.

This.From what I saw in preseason and week 1, the guy has awful receiving instincts. He just doesn't know how to go up and get the ball, doesn't run good routes, doesn't look the ball into his body or know how to stay in bounds on sideline catches. He's a track runner in pads. I can't understand how he was so highly thought of coming out of Maryland. Did he just blow people away with his speed in college and get so wide open a blind man could catch the ball?

Al Davis was the only guy on the planet who considered him an early 1st round talent... Many expected DHB to be drafted in the 3rd round at the earliest

 

[renesauz]

Davis reached, but this guy is improving. He's worth a roster spot. Not expecting big things from him, but there's dynasty potential there, and he could be used in a pinch right now (as a heavy bye week sub).

 

[DocHolliday]

DHB can not be used right now unless his injured knee heals in a day. He did not practice today. The Raider WR was weak going into the season and after 1 game is very ugly. With Ford and Murphy out, often injured Schilens and rookie D Moore look like the starters against Buffalo. I look for A LOT of DMC, Bush and maybe even T Jones. Anyone that thinks that Moore is going to be a great WR, now has their chance to put him in their line up.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

DHB can not be used right now unless his injured knee heals in a day. He did not practice today. The Raider WR was weak going into the season and after 1 game is very ugly. With Ford and Murphy out, often injured Schilens and rookie D Moore look like the starters against Buffalo. I look for A LOT of DMC, Bush and maybe even T Jones. Anyone that thinks that Moore is going to be a great WR, now has their chance to put him in their line up.

I don't recommend any Oakland wideouts this weekend. It's hard to ignore Buffalo's porous run D that was 32nd in the league last year and allowed 6.2 ypc in that blowout win over KC last week. KC abandoned the run as they got behind, and never fully exploited that soft underbelly. I think this may be a week where both McFadden and Bush are fantasy starters. They will look to ram the ball down that soft Buffalo defense, and if successful, the blueprint will be to run some more. The addition of Kevin Boss improves the run blocking and he could be a key possession receiver. But if the run game is working, there will be very limited shots taken down the field to the wideouts. Wait on using Raider wideouts against teams with more formidable run D's.

 

[LawFitz]

DHB can not be used right now unless his injured knee heals in a day. He did not practice today. The Raider WR was weak going into the season and after 1 game is very ugly. With Ford and Murphy out, often injured Schilens and rookie D Moore look like the starters against Buffalo. I look for A LOT of DMC, Bush and maybe even T Jones. Anyone that thinks that Moore is going to be a great WR, now has their chance to put him in their line up.

I wouldn't start Moore unless you are desperate for a WR3, but if you are expecting a breakout from this guy, he's due for a lot of snaps this weekend.

 

[massraider]

I don't have any hope for DHB in fantasy at all. I just hope he can help the Raiders in some fashion.

But really, if he develops like they are talking about, what is he improving to? Average? And for a team that isn't tossing the ball around a lot?

I feel like I have never seen anything from DHB that was 'special'. Not a leaping grab, a slick double move, a tough catch in traffic. Not once. On the field of play, take out the names, and he's just a guy. Just another WR out there with tools, that's missing something that the good WRs have.

If he was to become fantasy relevant, it would be a story as impressive as Brandon Lloyd.

 

[Lord Lucan]

His biggest asset is meant to be his speed. But he's in his third season, and he has TWO receptions of over 25 yards. Think that tells us all we need to know.

 

[DoubleG]

His biggest asset is meant to be his speed. But he's in his third season, and he has TWO receptions of over 25 yards. Think that tells us all we need to know.

He needs a QB?j/k - I agree. Had the guy in dynasty - saw a few games and dumped his sorry, no-hands self right to the WW.

 

[Lord Lucan]

His biggest asset is meant to be his speed. But he's in his third season, and he has TWO receptions of over 25 yards. Think that tells us all we need to know.

He needs a QB?

Jacoby Ford only started from halfway through the season and had eight catches over 25 yards with the same QBs. Even Louis Murphy had five over 25 yards.