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[ShaHBucks]

NY media is a mf'er. It's probably the reason this thread is > 5 pages as well. GL TC

 

[B-Deep]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

If they lose this game and Wilson is not a factor ...Everyone is going to be calling for Coughlin's head ... It's already starting on the local radio stations and media.

if they lose the game and wilson is a factor what will happen?

if he puts wilson in and wilson fumbles twice and they lose what will happen?

if wilson is not a factor and they win what will happen?

he is focused on winning the game, which is what he should be focused on. if wilson helps, great..if not great, as long as they win

 

[B-Deep]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

If they lose this game and Wilson is not a factor ...Everyone is going to be calling for Coughlin's head ... It's already starting on the local radio stations and media.

Yeah, B-Deep I'm not sure if you're really from the area or not. But on every local sport media out here in the NY area the questions are already circling the drain as to why Wilson was so criminally under used last week. People talking about how "Well if the running game is this bad, how is putting an old plodder and a 7th round talent out there going to make matters better?". If they lose again this week and Wilson again sees only 7 carries? The NY fans will be out in pitch forks in front of Coughlin's home.

again

a 30 wilson carry loss and the media will be?

congratulating the giants on using wilson properly? I think not

 

[B-Deep]

hey, i would like nothing more than for this team to decide David Wilson is their offense come hell or high water and roll with it

I'm not a giants fan though, and them not doing well is fine with me

i woulda liked him to keep getting the rock in the denver game, i love me some peyton manning

 

[Khy]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

If they lose this game and Wilson is not a factor ...Everyone is going to be calling for Coughlin's head ... It's already starting on the local radio stations and media.

if they lose the game and wilson is a factor what will happen?

if he puts wilson in and wilson fumbles twice and they lose what will happen?

if wilson is not a factor and they win what will happen?

he is focused on winning the game, which is what he should be focused on. if wilson helps, great..if not great, as long as they win

When you're dealing with the NY media these are all irrelevant questions.

If they lose and Wilson goes off for 20 carries and 150 yards I'm not sure what the question will be as I'd be shocked if they lose to Carolina in that scenario. Hell, I think they'd be 3-0 if Wilson had been running like that since carry #1 this season.

If Wilson fumbles twice in the game then he's probably done and dropable in redraft formats. The Giants season is also likely done at that point. He's their only hope for anything even resembling a running game and without one I don't see them winning games with Eli throwing 40-50 times a game.

If they give Wilson 20 carries and he hits for 20 for 67 yards? Then at least they made an effort to make the running game a thing. As of right now they haven't done that.

The point is he IS focused on winning the game. He knows he won't win many games with Eli throwing 50 times a game. He needs to get some balance going here, Wilson is his best and quite frankly his only real hope at that. At least until Brown is healthy. But if they wait till Week 11 for a running game to develop this season is over anyway.

 

[davearm]

If they lose this game and Wilson is not a factor ...Everyone is going to be calling for Coughlin's head ... It's already starting on the local radio stations and media.

LOL at Coughlin doing anything in response to media pressure.

 

[Khy]

If they lose this game and Wilson is not a factor ...Everyone is going to be calling for Coughlin's head ... It's already starting on the local radio stations and media.

LOL at Coughlin doing anything in response to media pressure.

It's sad uninformed responses like this that make me laugh on these boards. Coughlin's caved several times in his tenure with the Giants to media and locker room pressures. How quickly we forget how bad his first year or so with the team was... so much so that Michael Strahan almost walked off the team he hated Coughlin so much. Coughlin has constantly changed his hard assed coaching techniques in favor of new styles and ideas. Realize it's not just the media and also the locker room calling for Wilson to see more work. When you have guys like Eli saying that they need to find ways to work Wilson into the offense more than you know there's a disconnect in the locker room. Which is something Coughlin will only allow his stubbornness to ignore for so long.

 

[davearm]

So I'll say it again, LOL at Coughlin doing anything because the media is calling for it. JMHO of course, but you're very naive if you think this has, or will happen.

Listening to voices within the locker room is a whole different thing altogether.

 

[Khy]

So I'll say it again, LOL at Coughlin doing anything because the media is calling for it. JMHO of course, but you're very naive if you think this has, or will happen.

I'm naive... right. It HAS happened... literally proof for it has happened several times and likely will happen again.

 

[davearm]

Tell me what moves the media has dictated. I'm listening.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Tell me what moves the media has dictated. I'm listening.

I'd be curious to know, too.

 

[qimqam]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

If they lose this game and Wilson is not a factor ...Everyone is going to be calling for Coughlin's head ... It's already starting on the local radio stations and media.

if they lose the game and wilson is a factor what will happen? They've established running game and need to address other issues

if he puts wilson in and wilson fumbles twice and they lose what will happen? Depends on the circumstances ... If the line can't block and Wilson is getting hit in the backfield ... there's a bigger problem to fix

if wilson is not a factor and they win what will happen? If Wilson is a non Factor that means they have still not established a running game and people will be calling for Coughlins head

he is focused on winning the game, which is what he should be focused on. if wilson helps, great..if not great, as long as they win

Winning would only delay inevitable ... They still need to establish a running game if they plan on winning consistently.

The Superbowl is in the Meadowlands this year ... fans and media are not going to be patient.

 

[B-Deep]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

If they lose this game and Wilson is not a factor ...Everyone is going to be calling for Coughlin's head ... It's already starting on the local radio stations and media.

if they lose the game and wilson is a factor what will happen?

if he puts wilson in and wilson fumbles twice and they lose what will happen?

if wilson is not a factor and they win what will happen?

he is focused on winning the game, which is what he should be focused on. if wilson helps, great..if not great, as long as they win

When you're dealing with the NY media these are all irrelevant questions.

If they lose and Wilson goes off for 20 carries and 150 yards I'm not sure what the question will be as I'd be shocked if they lose to Carolina in that scenario. Hell, I think they'd be 3-0 if Wilson had been running like that since carry #1 this season.

If Wilson fumbles twice in the game then he's probably done and dropable in redraft formats. The Giants season is also likely done at that point. He's their only hope for anything even resembling a running game and without one I don't see them winning games with Eli throwing 40-50 times a game.

If they give Wilson 20 carries and he hits for 20 for 67 yards? Then at least they made an effort to make the running game a thing. As of right now they haven't done that.

The point is he IS focused on winning the game. He knows he won't win many games with Eli throwing 50 times a game. He needs to get some balance going here, Wilson is his best and quite frankly his only real hope at that. At least until Brown is healthy. But if they wait till Week 11 for a running game to develop this season is over anyway.

AS i said

he is worried about winning, not about david wilson

he doesn't give 2 tiny rat's asses if david wilson ever touches the ball again if he finds a way to win without him

he has to decide how to balance the need for a running game with the need to trust the running back not to fumble and to trust him on pass protect, because they'll win more games with Eli and not Wilson than the reverse.

and if they give wilson 20 carries for 67 yards and lose you think the media will say "0-3 is ok, at least we gave wilson a shot!! Coughlin did al he can." seriously? They'll be on coughlin's ### for whatever reason they think he screwed up, and there will be a reason

winning is what matters. you think wilson is the only way they win, what matters is what coughlin thinks and if he is right

 

[B-Deep]

If they lose this game and Wilson is not a factor ...Everyone is going to be calling for Coughlin's head ... It's already starting on the local radio stations and media.

LOL at Coughlin doing anything in response to media pressure.

It's sad uninformed responses like this that make me laugh on these boards. Coughlin's caved several times in his tenure with the Giants to media and locker room pressures. How quickly we forget how bad his first year or so with the team was... so much so that Michael Strahan almost walked off the team he hated Coughlin so much. Coughlin has constantly changed his hard assed coaching techniques in favor of new styles and ideas. Realize it's not just the media and also the locker room calling for Wilson to see more work. When you have guys like Eli saying that they need to find ways to work Wilson into the offense more than you know there's a disconnect in the locker room. Which is something Coughlin will only allow his stubbornness to ignore for so long.

link?

 

[B-Deep]

people make it sound like wilson is the Messiah and eveyrone but coughlin sees it

it is incredible

this is david freaking wilson not barry sanders, who by the way was not a messiah either!!!!!!

 

[CariocaSean]

people make it sound like wilson is the Messiah and eveyrone but coughlin sees it

it is incredible

this is david freaking wilson not barry sanders, who by the way was not a messiah either!!!!!!

I think you and others are missing the point. A lot of us are just observing that the current game plan is not a recipe for success. As scary as it may be to trust Wilson... what are the other options? Without balance on offense this team may only win 4 games.

This doesn't have to do with David Wilson saving the Giants. This has to do with them finding a recipe for success - a game plan that gives them a chance. A lot of us believe that Wilson would need to be a part of any such game plan.

 

[Khy]

people make it sound like wilson is the Messiah and eveyrone but coughlin sees it

it is incredible

this is david freaking wilson not barry sanders, who by the way was not a messiah either!!!!!!

I think you and others are missing the point. A lot of us are just observing that the current game plan is not a recipe for success. As scary as it may be to trust Wilson... what are the other options? Without balance on offense this team may only win 4 games.

This doesn't have to do with David Wilson saving the Giants. This has to do with them finding a recipe for success - a game plan that gives them a chance. A lot of us believe that Wilson would need to be a part of any such game plan.

This is really the point. It's not so much that most of us see Wilson as the 2nd coming of Sanders or Peterson. It's more of a matter that there are NO OTHER OPTIONS on this team. If we are going to achieve a balanced attack which is something we need to do Wilson is the-only-answer. Jacobs is old, slow and plodding. Scott is nothing more than a fast player with no other skillsets for the NFL and was a player who the team had intentions on cutting prior to Brown getting hurt.

 

[qimqam]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

If they lose this game and Wilson is not a factor ...Everyone is going to be calling for Coughlin's head ... It's already starting on the local radio stations and media.

if they lose the game and wilson is a factor what will happen?

if he puts wilson in and wilson fumbles twice and they lose what will happen?

if wilson is not a factor and they win what will happen?

he is focused on winning the game, which is what he should be focused on. if wilson helps, great..if not great, as long as they win

When you're dealing with the NY media these are all irrelevant questions.

If they lose and Wilson goes off for 20 carries and 150 yards I'm not sure what the question will be as I'd be shocked if they lose to Carolina in that scenario. Hell, I think they'd be 3-0 if Wilson had been running like that since carry #1 this season.

If Wilson fumbles twice in the game then he's probably done and dropable in redraft formats. The Giants season is also likely done at that point. He's their only hope for anything even resembling a running game and without one I don't see them winning games with Eli throwing 40-50 times a game.

If they give Wilson 20 carries and he hits for 20 for 67 yards? Then at least they made an effort to make the running game a thing. As of right now they haven't done that.

The point is he IS focused on winning the game. He knows he won't win many games with Eli throwing 50 times a game. He needs to get some balance going here, Wilson is his best and quite frankly his only real hope at that. At least until Brown is healthy. But if they wait till Week 11 for a running game to develop this season is over anyway.

AS i said

he is worried about winning, not about david wilson - He's very worried about establishing a running game

he doesn't give 2 tiny rat's asses if david wilson ever touches the ball again if he finds a way to win without him - Right but ... He needs to establish a running game.

he has to decide how to balance the need for a running game with the need to trust the running back not to fumble and to trust him on pass protect, because they'll win more games with Eli and not Wilson than the reverse. - They wont win enough without a running game

and if they give wilson 20 carries for 67 yards and lose you think the media will say "0-3 is ok, at least we gave wilson a shot!! Coughlin did al he can." seriously? Nope I think they will say coughlin needs to work on the Oline to establish a running game.

They'll be on coughlin's ### for whatever reason they think he screwed up, and there will be a reason. Yep and the reason will be obvious ...no running game!

winning is what matters. you think wilson is the only way they win, what matters is what coughlin thinks and if he is right ...Nope ... It doesn't have to be Wilson ... But they need to establish what? A running Game!

 

[B-Deep]

people make it sound like wilson is the Messiah and eveyrone but coughlin sees it

it is incredible

this is david freaking wilson not barry sanders, who by the way was not a messiah either!!!!!!

I think you and others are missing the point. A lot of us are just observing that the current game plan is not a recipe for success. As scary as it may be to trust Wilson... what are the other options? Without balance on offense this team may only win 4 games.

This doesn't have to do with David Wilson saving the Giants. This has to do with them finding a recipe for success - a game plan that gives them a chance. A lot of us believe that Wilson would need to be a part of any such game plan.

the giants beliegve he will be a PART of it too

along with their other RBs

and along with Eli

how much he will be a part depends on the trust he earns, if he keeps fumbling they will be lucky to win 4 games as well.

if the point is the giants should run more, i'd probably agree

i'd also point out 1 less wilson turnover and they likely beat dallas and are 1-1 having lost only to one of the best teams in the league

and sure, one less eli turnover too, Eli is more important to this team than Wilson though.

I'd also point out a scant 2 years ago this team won a super bowl with, and let me be clear here, the WORST RUSHING OFFENSE IN THE NFL, so the idea that this team cannot win with Eli throwing the ball is ludicrous beyond words, they just did, in 2011 for christ's sake.

There's a recipe for success without wilson being a top 5 fantasy RB for this team, no matter how much people here think this kid is talent

and not 1 moment is being spent thinking on david wilson past what can we trust him to do to help us. IF Jacobs and whats-his-name give you 85% of wilson and don't fumble as much they'll do well this year.

the focus is on the team, and wilson can be an asset but week 1 he was the exact opposite. week 2 i don't thin they were winning that game if wilson got the ball 25 times, if people think that they are blinded.and if anyone thinks wilson getting the ball and them losing will somehow be ok they are beyond blind.

 

[B-Deep]

people make it sound like wilson is the Messiah and eveyrone but coughlin sees it

it is incredible

this is david freaking wilson not barry sanders, who by the way was not a messiah either!!!!!!

I think you and others are missing the point. A lot of us are just observing that the current game plan is not a recipe for success. As scary as it may be to trust Wilson... what are the other options? Without balance on offense this team may only win 4 games.

This doesn't have to do with David Wilson saving the Giants. This has to do with them finding a recipe for success - a game plan that gives them a chance. A lot of us believe that Wilson would need to be a part of any such game plan.

This is really the point. It's not so much that most of us see Wilson as the 2nd coming of Sanders or Peterson. It's more of a matter that there are NO OTHER OPTIONS on this team. If we are going to achieve a balanced attack which is something we need to do Wilson is the-only-answer. Jacobs is old, slow and plodding. Scott is nothing more than a fast player with no other skillsets for the NFL and was a player who the team had intentions on cutting prior to Brown getting hurt.

see, you are assessing the talent here, you are also on record thinking Wilson has elite talent.

who says coughlin's assessment lines up with yours? and whose assessment should we trust?

There are a lot of team thread's where people say the team needs to establish a running game, there are very few where everyone thinks only one relatively unproven player has a shot at doing that, Coughlin just had free agent try outs and decided Jacobs was a fit, he may think he has more of a part to play than you do.

 

[davearm]

who says coughlin's assessment lines up with yours? and whose assessment should we trust?

The media's. They call the shots.

 

[Rick James]

this forum may break if Wilson goes off this week

 

[B-Deep]

this forum may break if Wilson goes off this week

i don;t think it matters

if he sucks this thread will go crazy

if he runs for 250 yards it will too

 

[Rick James]

this forum may break if Wilson goes off this week

i don;t think it matters

if he sucks this thread will go crazy

if he runs for 250 yards it will too

true, but it would be more entertaining to see the "LOOK AT ME NOW" posts. I love those.

 

[Khy]

this forum may break if Wilson goes off this week

i don;t think it matters

if he sucks this thread will go crazy

if he runs for 250 yards it will too

true, but it would be more entertaining to see the "LOOK AT ME NOW" posts. I love those.

Yeah... if he sucks you'll see more of what you're seeing here now. If he puts up like Doug Martin vs OAK type of game though, the FBG boards may crash lol

 

[T with T]

all you idiots need to just chill out it will be Wilson time soon enough.

 

[Art_VanDalay]

Ok so put me in the Coughlin is killing Wilson's career with his stubbornness and the Gmen win maybe 4 games without cutting Wilson loose this year, regardless of his turnovers, which last I checked are the same as INT's in that the other team gets the ball. HOWEVER, I want to pose a different slant to Wilson owners and see what you guys are doing about it. Obviously in August, most people saw Brown as the handcuff to Wilson. Some probably had or still have Brown or could grab him on waivers.

My question is, since Brown comes back around week 10, I see two scenarios developing before then. A. Coughlin turns him loose lives with whatever it is and by the time Brown is ready to come back they have a good thing going with Wilson and Brown is just complimentary and probably puts Jacobs out of a job as GL back and back on the street while Scott goes back to 3rd string/bench duty or B. this nonsense continues until Brown comes back, Coughlin says thank God and turns everything over to him at that point (until he gets hurt a week later again of course).

My point with these scenarios is this, all this waiting for Wilson to breakout is well and good but every week that goes by gets closer to Brown's return so are we essentially waiting for a breakout that is setting up to never actually happen given the circumstances? I am a firm believer in his talent being "special" so put me in camp A but I worry about Brown and wonder if Wilson owners should still be stashing or thinking about owning him given the inauspicious start to his season. Any thoughts on that as a different slant on his value?

 

[davearm]

FWIW, the guy that drafted Brown in my league hasn't dropped him. So I guess that's a vote for Camp B. And makes your question moot, for me anyway. And I suspect many leagues have seen the same thing.

 

[Touchdown There]

people make it sound like wilson is the Messiah and eveyrone but coughlin sees it

it is incredible

this is david freaking wilson not barry sanders, who by the way was not a messiah either!!!!!!

If you are not a David Wilson fan, get out of the bandwagon thread.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

people make it sound like wilson is the Messiah and eveyrone but coughlin sees it

it is incredible

this is david freaking wilson not barry sanders, who by the way was not a messiah either!!!!!!

If you are not a David Wilson fan, get out of the bandwagon thread.

I want him to stay.

 

[T with T]

This thread will never die. :IBTL:

 

[netnalp]

Breaking Down the New York Giants' Struggles in the Running Gamehttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/1778090-breaking-down-the-new-york-giants-struggles-in-the-running-game

 

[Coeur de Lion]

all you idiots need to just chill out it will be Wilson time soon enough.

Which is more amusing?The guy who can't string together two sentences of coherent English calling people idiots?

OR

The over-reactionary, hysterical, calling for Coughlin's head guy telling people to calm down?

It's a dead heat for me, but either way it's pure gold.

ETA: Keep it comin!!!

 

[2ksports]

I don't understand why Coughlin needs to be fired for Wilson to break out.

Wilson is more than good enough to break out with Coughlin there because frankly they do not have a better option. He is still the starter, and there is plenty of pressure from outside and inside the locker room to feed him more.

Why do people think it is actually more likely that these horrendous performances will continue. It will most likely not continue.

He's only had 14 carries. He is still the starter. He is the most talented RB on the team, by a fairly good margin, which is why Ahmad Bradshaw is no longer there.

His fumbling issues are also greatly exaggerated. He does not fumble more than any other RB in the NFL. His inability to run GL is also completely unfounded.

2 weeks does not make a season. This is THE perfect situation to buy low. Are people seriously that worried about Da'Rell Scott and Brandon Jacobs?

The analysis that "David Wilson is going to be in the doghouse for the entire year because he fumbled twice on opening night on national TV" is a very unlikely scenario.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

He does not fumble more than any other RB in the NFL.

Not true.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

This thread will never die. :IBTL:

I don't understand this... it's a bandwagon thread. why would it die? IT'S A BANDWAGON!!!! haters gonna hate, it's part of the fun.

 

[msudaisy26]

This thread will never die. :IBTL:

I don't understand this... it's a bandwagon thread. why would it die? IT'S A BANDWAGON!!!! haters gonna hate, it's part of the fun.

Good post. Wilson for president if Coughlin will let him run!

 

[Khy]

This thread will never die. :IBTL:

I don't understand this... it's a bandwagon thread. why would it die? IT'S A BANDWAGON!!!! haters gonna hate, it's part of the fun.

This is a valid point... although I will ask. Is there a Bandwagon thread bigger than this? I'm trying to think of the last bandwagon thread that was eclipsing 65 pages?

 

[T with T]

all you idiots need to just chill out it will be Wilson time soon enough.

Which is more amusing?The guy who can't string together two sentences of coherent English calling people idiots?

OR

The over-reactionary, hysterical, calling for Coughlin's head guy telling people to calm down?

It's a dead heat for me, but either way it's pure gold.

ETA: Keep it comin!!!

what about the plain old dipshi%s like you coeur or queer whatever you are... stick to dwilson material pony boy.

 

[TheFanatic]

all you idiots need to just chill out it will be Wilson time soon enough.

Which is more amusing?The guy who can't string together two sentences of coherent English calling people idiots?

OR

The over-reactionary, hysterical, calling for Coughlin's head guy telling people to calm down?

It's a dead heat for me, but either way it's pure gold.

ETA: Keep it comin!!!

what about the plain old dipshi%s like you coeur or queer whatever you are... stick to dwilson material pony boy.

Petty name calling? Only slightly worse than grammar nazis.

Stay excellent my friends...

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Tough to start him Week 3 in a non-flex 2RB format given his performance the first 2 weeks. The likes of Bilal Powell and Bernard Pierce (absent Rice playing) are starting to look attractive amidst the Wilson bandwagon crashing head first into a brick wall.

 

[Art_VanDalay]

The good news for me is with the TRich trade, I have no choice but to start Wilson AGAIN! Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results! Label me INSANE!!

- Crazy Eddie!

 

[TheFanatic]

The good news for me is with the TRich trade, I have no choice but to start Wilson AGAIN! Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results! Label me INSANE!!

- Crazy Eddie!

Me too!

 

[GreenNGold]

David Wilson and the Giants' Play Calling: Now What?

by JJ Zachariason on Sep 16th, 2013

What Now?You’re either a David Wilson owner or you’re not. If you are, you have four choices: drop him, start him, trade him, bench him.

Dropping him wouldn’t make much sense at this point. Unless you’re in a 6-team league, David Wilson’s going to be better than anything off your waiver wire.

Starting Wilson wouldn’t make much sense either, unless you’re completely desperate. The play calling disaster in New York can’t make you feel confident about slotting a guy like Wilson in your lineup.

Trading the Giants runner would be a strange thing to do. We all go with the “buy low, sell high” attitude in fantasy, and you’d be selling Wilson at his probable extreme low. Who are you going to get? Daniel Thomas? Is there a point?

Benching David Wilson is the only choice. It’s time to think of David Wilson as a high-upside play that has just as much of a chance of breaking out as any other benched running back. It’s a sad day for David Wilson owners, I know, but the instant you recognize the mess in New York, the instant you become a better fantasy owner. Keep him on your bench until you see a change of heart with the Giants coaching staff. If he has a breakout game from there, that’s fine – at least you know you didn’t make a reactionary move that could end up costing you the season."

As a Wilson Dyn owner I just don't see how you can do anything but hold. (He is a 1st Rnd talent that even Tiki Barber has said the Giants have never had a dynamic RB as Wilson.)

But with how Coughlin will handle Wilson in the game script, using a 3 RB rotation between (Brown,Scott, Jacobs and Wilson), and the def for NYG always letting games get out of hand so they are pass happy. You pretty much have to call this season a lost season for Wilson and hope for better days next year or when Wilson is with another team.

I'm glad somebody posted this. I deleted a great deal of the content so go back if you want to read in entirety. I read this too on another website and thought it summed it up pretty well.

One other note from the limited amount i saw of the game. I still don't like Wilson's pass protection is he keeps trying to only chop a player down. Eli got sacked on a play where Wilson chop blocked his man, but another defender was coming too. Some people have said that either way the sack was inevitable, but I would think that if he stood the guy up and took the hit, there was a high probability that it would have clogged the hole and not allowed the other to get the sack. It's these little things that add up. I don't question his play making ability and would guess he's just as good a pass catcher as Scott. However, he's been critiqued from coaches about needing to take a hit for a block and still only goes after the legs. These things will keep him from seeing time.

Dropping him makes perfect sense, how is a guy that score negative points per game better than even an empty roster spot that you know won't get less than zero?

 

[LittleLarry]

This thread will never die. :IBTL:

I don't understand this... it's a bandwagon thread. why would it die? IT'S A BANDWAGON!!!! haters gonna hate, it's part of the fun.

Why is it fun to have a bandwagon thread on a guy who averages 1 point per game.

You all a bunch of sick puppies.

 

[Bronx Bomber]

I'm curious to see if Colts now turn around and send Bradshaw back to NY.

 

[RushHour]

Oh god...this thread would melt down (again)

 

[B-Deep]

come on

there's huge other news

this thread cannot stay on page 1

 

[Avery]

come on

there's huge other news

this thread cannot stay on page 1

It can if you keep bumping it!

 

[karmarooster]

Wilson dynasty owners -- how much would it take to pry this guy from your hands right now? Imagine that your team is in last place, in part because you've started wilson the last two weeks.