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LMFAO at just a guy. Bradshaw runs hard, can catch the ball out of the backfield, is the best blocking back in the league, and plays through injuries. Dude is tough as nails. He has 2 Super Bowl rings and is only 26 yrs old. Only way Wilson takes over is through injury. You people need to get realistic here. I live in NY and there is NOBODY here that thinks Wilson will overtake Bradshaw anytime soon. EVERYONE knows who the man in NY is.'Football Jones said:
If he wasn't, it certainly looked like he was about to
Agree with this - Bradshaw is one of the Giants' favorite players. They love him. I do think Wilson has an opportunity to carve out a substantial role, though, but I don't think he takes the job outright - the Giants like to play 2 RBs anyway so there should be room for both.
I disagree that he will not be relevant. He checked into the starting line-up on their SECOND posession. If you want to read into something that is what you should be looking at IMHO. It appeared as if they wanted him in the mix and with a nice share from how they started the game. Expecting all of that to just go away isnt realistic IMOBradshaw did NOT run well tonight and IMO he even looked slower then a year ago'GreenNGold said:
yes lucky bounce for Bradshaw but it wasnt a lost fumble so the coach dont care. And IIRC after Wilsons fumble the cowboys didnt generate any points so no harm, no foul?
I agree that Bradshaw is a fine player. But you are kidding yourself if you don't think Wilson will start taking a substantial number of plays from him. It was obvious at the start of the game since they were splitting plays about 50/50. And that is quite significant especially with Coughlin's history with rookies. Had Wilson not fumbled we'd probably be talking about how Bradshaw is now in a full blown RBBC. And it is only a matter of time before Bradshaw is sidelined with some sort of lower leg/foot injury.Lucky for Bradshaw, Wilson fumbled.
Well it's not a good thing to fumble either way, that's kind of where I was heading with that. Had Bradshaw's not been recovered then today is totally different. Also you can tell half the people beating up Wilson had no clue Bradshaw was close to losing one as well.My main point about this is how early Wilson entered the game...that was very telling IMO and I was shocked to see him so early.
No harm, no foul? LOL. Dude fumbled on the Dallas 29 on a 2nd down play. It's safe to assume 3 points were left on the field in a scoreless game.
12151516The number of games Bradshaw has played in the last 4 seasons.In terms of Wilson's workload, at least the way I anticipated it, I believed he was going to be a "situational" player this year. His first carry came on a 2nd and 8 pinned back at their own 15 yard line. A home run hitter, that's the "situation" you'd expect to see him in. After last night's game, it may take him a bit to get back in on those situations.
Agreed. You know one of his major drills every day is having to carry the ball through a bunch of defenders trying to pound the ball out of his hands.Kind of like being paddled in a college fraternity initiation.
What if he fumbles in the next game?
Then he'll get limited time the rest of that game if any. They need to do something to improve the run game. The line could be changed up when Beatty and Brewer get healthy, but that's a long shot to being the fix for the run blocking. I'm not confident Bradshaw can take 20+ touches a game. Wilson looks to have the skills to make a line look better. Wilson will fumble again. It's inevitable. Jacobs and Bradshaw both had times where fumbling was a problem. They got used less but they still played. I don't see the Giants having much choice but to get Wilson some touches.
Don't get stuck on the 50/50 number. While I feel it will be a RBBC like when Jacobs was here, I never claimed 50/50. I'd put it more at 60/40 in Bradhsaw's favor. So it's not like there's a big difference between what you're saying and some of us that think Wilson has a part to play.
http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Postgame-Quotes-Coach-Coughlin/4397554d-a0a8-4c65-8912-a7f83c7ab850
you play in a bizarro league?
His QB was Eli Manning.Mine is Drew Brees.
Just admit that you made a major mistake. It doesn't matter that you have Drew Brees, the fact is you messed up. I would much rather have Drew Brees + a viable option than Drew Brees + a scrub. If you are going to win your league, you need all of your positions to perform, so yes, if you are starting someone like Wilson in week 1 you are most likely screwed.
I'm not sure Luck had a lot to do with it.In exhibition I was impressed with his running like you are, but there were times where he had the ball far from his body (usually while avoiding a defender) and you may be able to get away with that in college, but in the NFL that is a recipe for disaster.That play where he fumbled the ball, the defender wasnt trying to tackle, I thought he was clearly going for the ball and he got it.I dont think luck had anything to do with that one.At the end of the day this isnt the end of his career, but they will have to work with him and the way he holds the ball. it will take at least a half season until the old habits are gone. This may be to his long term benefit, as it will allow him to learn the playbook and there will not be as much pressure to perform early in his career.I think this guy will be money next year (or the year after if his ball security issues take longer than a year to resolve)While I think they used a first rounder on him for a reason, I also think they wont replace Bradshaw until they are sure this guy will be the man.once the ball control issues are resolved, we are likely looking at 6-8 games where it is a RBBC before they decide to give Wilson the nod and make him the starter.I could be wrong, but Coughlin's track record leads me to believe this is what is likely to happen.
That's not true. Coaches don't like putting the ball on the ground no matter who recovers it...because who recovers it is mainly a game of chance.Bradshaw does have the confidence of his coach in that regard, so a fumble by him will be viewed as an isolated incident where Wison's history looks more like "uh-oh, does this guy have a problem". Coughlin is going to make Wilson hold onto the ball. I'm confident of that. And that's a teachable skill, so Wilson can learn it.
As a Bradshaw owner I would be pretty happy if Wilson's owner cut bait on him.
Let's not overstate it too much. I don't think Coughlin has actually lost confidence in Wilson. He's just teaching him a lesson. He let him return kicks the rest of the half and late in the 4th quarter. And Wilson could just as easily fumble on a return as he can on a carry. So I suspect Coughlin is much more philosophical and deliberate about it than he lets on. But he wants Wilson to hurt about it, so he'll keep up the pressure. He wants to nip this in the bud BEFORE it gets to be a real problem.I'm a Wilson owner and fan. I wish he hadn't fumbled. But in the long run, even in terms of this season, I don't think this will be a huge deal. It'll actually be good for Wilson before all is said and done.
Which of these two things do you think the Giants didn't know when they picked him in the first round?Yeah, I'm sure they're surprised that he doesn't have Bradshaw's blocking prowess in week 1 of his rookie season. And I'm betting they thought his fumbles in college were just bad luck and are shocked at what happened.
Why would they think that. They have Bradshaw. They don't need this guy and his big play ability. Bradshaw is in his prime. No chance Wilson eats into his plating time. The guy fumbled in his rookie season, on his opening drive no less, there's no chance he'll be at all relevant this year, next year or until AB turns 35 and only them until he comes back from injury....
I totally agree.I figured when they drafted him they'd let him be the backup for a year while working on those issues. If Bradshaw got hurt, he'd get thrown in early. That was my thinking all along and I still think that is the long term plan.
I'm a huge Bradshaw fan but this seems just a tad excessive lol. I think the Giants envision a 60-40ish split between Bradshaw/Wilson by mid-season or so, which is fine for Bradshaw because he's shown he can be very productive on in a RBBC.
Ahhh. Lol. Woosh, went right over my head.
