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***David Wilson Bandwagon*** (2 Viewers)
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OG_GF
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werdnoynek
Footballguy
Yo bro, you can't come in here talking about Brandon Jacobs. This is a train headed for elite NFL RB status. If you're not on you're off.
Stop raining on our parade with your hopes and dreams for your waiver wire grab. Jacobs was on the brink of retirement and can get you a yard when you need 6. If you think you've struck gold with him, I'll buy you a cab to the next cash for gold shop and we can get a couple of drinks out of it.
Sheesh.
Stop raining on our parade with your hopes and dreams for your waiver wire grab. Jacobs was on the brink of retirement and can get you a yard when you need 6. If you think you've struck gold with him, I'll buy you a cab to the next cash for gold shop and we can get a couple of drinks out of it.
Sheesh.
OG_GF
Footballguy
That's not what I think or have said ... bro!
My God ... kids today can't friggin read? I give up. Jacobs is a bad blocker ... can't catch .... Wilson is elite .... you happy?
Now go make my coffee ... punk, and don't expect a tip. I'm old and cheap.
There's a lot of really clear evidence that shows how BJ has helped Eli both as a blocker and as a receiver in passing downs. I'm not making this stuff up, it actually happened. If you want to deny that these things happened ... that's absurd.
So .... pretty much I win ... and you look like stupid poo poo pants little kid that doesn't know WTF they are talking about.
You got a problem with that? Come at me bro!
My God ... kids today can't friggin read? I give up. Jacobs is a bad blocker ... can't catch .... Wilson is elite .... you happy?
Now go make my coffee ... punk, and don't expect a tip. I'm old and cheap.
There's a lot of really clear evidence that shows how BJ has helped Eli both as a blocker and as a receiver in passing downs. I'm not making this stuff up, it actually happened. If you want to deny that these things happened ... that's absurd.
So .... pretty much I win ... and you look like stupid poo poo pants little kid that doesn't know WTF they are talking about.
You got a problem with that? Come at me bro!
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OG_GF
Footballguy
Quick review:
I been a Giants fan since Lawrence Taylor was a rookie
Last year I took second place in the PFFL. The year before that I won my 12 team league full of Jewish realtors. This year in the FBGPC I am 4-0 so far.
So ... "bro" ... you maybe want to show a little respect ... and maybe listen to what I have to say. Lil bit.
I been a Giants fan since Lawrence Taylor was a rookie
Last year I took second place in the PFFL. The year before that I won my 12 team league full of Jewish realtors. This year in the FBGPC I am 4-0 so far.
So ... "bro" ... you maybe want to show a little respect ... and maybe listen to what I have to say. Lil bit.
OG_GF
Footballguy
The Giants are 0-4. The government has shut down. My job pays crap. Could you possibly pile anymore crap onto the pile I am already dealing with? Is it possible?
I gotta deal with some punk who thinks he has the Giants run game all figured out?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J-2EIvItVY
I swear to God, I do not need this right now.
Andre Brown ... in fantasy, redraft ... get him cheap now ... that's who you want.
I gotta deal with some punk who thinks he has the Giants run game all figured out?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J-2EIvItVY
I swear to God, I do not need this right now.
Andre Brown ... in fantasy, redraft ... get him cheap now ... that's who you want.
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Skeletore Eh
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werdnoynek
Footballguy
Did we somehow go back in time to 2008?
netnalp
Footballguy
I think this is wrong. It's probably more tiring for a defense to chase Wilson around the field than to ankle tackle Jacobs.
Jacobs doesn't have the power anymore and hasn't run with power for years. That's why he lost the starting job to Bradshaw.
Take last weeks game. Jacobs on a toss ran for 5 yards, needed one more yard for the 1st. A DB was the only obstacle and instead of bulling through him, Jacobs tries to juke and gets tackled. Result a 3-1.
OG_GF
Footballguy
I feel very Louis CK right now ... just mad at young people for being interested ... very cynical.
Look, I think the Giants ... and this is partially based on rumors that I heard from sources I can't reveal, that the Giants were trying to move up in the first round of the draft 2 years ago. They didn't ... but I think they were targeting Doug Martin. They wont admit that of course, will say they wanted Wilson the whole time, but I think Wilson was the fall back guy. If Martin was still there, they take Martin.
As a Giants fan, I hope Wilson is a hundred times better than Martin in the long run ... but I have to, particularly at the start of this year ... damper my expectations a little.
The last time the Giants really put it all in on a RB, he was the greatest RB in the history of the NCAA ... and they wasted too much time, hoping Ron Dayne would become a great RB in the NFL ... and it never happened.
Coughlin knows what he has with BJ. Wilson is still a project.
Look, I think the Giants ... and this is partially based on rumors that I heard from sources I can't reveal, that the Giants were trying to move up in the first round of the draft 2 years ago. They didn't ... but I think they were targeting Doug Martin. They wont admit that of course, will say they wanted Wilson the whole time, but I think Wilson was the fall back guy. If Martin was still there, they take Martin.
As a Giants fan, I hope Wilson is a hundred times better than Martin in the long run ... but I have to, particularly at the start of this year ... damper my expectations a little.
The last time the Giants really put it all in on a RB, he was the greatest RB in the history of the NCAA ... and they wasted too much time, hoping Ron Dayne would become a great RB in the NFL ... and it never happened.
Coughlin knows what he has with BJ. Wilson is still a project.
netnalp
Footballguy
Bigger issue has been Baas and Snee playing when they could barley get out of their stance. Jacobs has been just as bad at pass blocking as the other RBs this year.
OG_GF
Footballguy
Way bigger problem. Snee to IR really sucks.
That's why I think that maybe the offensive line can kinda gel over the next 4-6 weeks and I expect more of a passing focused game we might see some return to fantasy relevance for the Giants run game week 10, when Andre Brown comes back ... but you are right, the offensive line might never be good this year.
That's why I think that maybe the offensive line can kinda gel over the next 4-6 weeks and I expect more of a passing focused game we might see some return to fantasy relevance for the Giants run game week 10, when Andre Brown comes back ... but you are right, the offensive line might never be good this year.
OG_GF
Footballguy
Also, for the Giants ... the defense seems to have vanished. Someone needs to be a leader and pull together there ... help the offense be able to keep it real.
I like Prince. I love Piere-Paul ... it's insane that we didn't resign Blackburn and now we are trading for the guy that lost his job to ... none other than Chase Blackburn.
It's a bad year already. The only saving grace is the whole NFC East looks bad, so ... the division is still winable ... but if the Giants reach 0-5 ... forget it. Season's pretty much over.
I like Prince. I love Piere-Paul ... it's insane that we didn't resign Blackburn and now we are trading for the guy that lost his job to ... none other than Chase Blackburn.
It's a bad year already. The only saving grace is the whole NFC East looks bad, so ... the division is still winable ... but if the Giants reach 0-5 ... forget it. Season's pretty much over.
netnalp
Footballguy
Hopefully Hanlon is right that the Giants don't have proven depth not a lack of depth. I'm not so convinced. It's biting them in the butt that none of the mid to late round picks have developed into starters on the interior line.
Pugh's has been the 2nd best lineman, perhaps the best with the bad games Beatty has had. And Pugh would have sat if Diehl hadn't gotten hurt. I'm hoping this is a case of the coaches putting too much weight on experience. Wish they'd plugged the younger guys in earlier. At least they'd have more experience and the record could be any worse to this point.
Pugh's has been the 2nd best lineman, perhaps the best with the bad games Beatty has had. And Pugh would have sat if Diehl hadn't gotten hurt. I'm hoping this is a case of the coaches putting too much weight on experience. Wish they'd plugged the younger guys in earlier. At least they'd have more experience and the record could be any worse to this point.
netnalp
Footballguy
The defense has been on the field way too much. And I don't think they've played that bad for a Fewell defense. But I hate that this defense won't win games like the old Taylor or Strahan defenses. Seems to me like they don't attack and try to force turnover. Instead they hope for the opposing offense to make a mistake. That's not happening and offenses are dictating the flow of the game. I like seeing a defense impose it's will on the offense.
I think Wilson will have better games, but they might come too late for most fantasy squads.
I think Wilson will have better games, but they might come too late for most fantasy squads.
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Sabertooth
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This is the week. I am trying like hell to sell Wilson before this weekend to be honest. Because it's make or brake time for him. If he can't muster up a 100+ combined this week I don't think he's got much of a shot moving forward. Andre Brown will step in and get his chance immediately upon his return unless Wilson takes this bull by the horns and soon.
All that said I am hoping to move him on out.
All that said I am hoping to move him on out.
Khy
Footballguy
OG_GF are you in fact Brandon Jacobs? Honestly, I haven't heard a Giants fan give even a mildly positive review for Jacobs since friggin 2008. He's not even "not that good" he's just bad. End of story.
Brown is an average RB talent, nothing more, nothing less. And he's never been able to stay healthy for a few games at a time. Even if he did "take over for Wilson" it'd be for all of 2-3 weeks before another limb fell off.
We're also all forgetting that Brown looked AWFULLLLLLLL. In preseason, absolutely terrible. Hell, Cox looked better than him getting around 2ypc. I don't get this idea people have that Brown is gonna come back and somehow steal this job. He looked bad prior to the broken leg, post broken leg certainly isn't going to help him.
People really really need to stop using stats as a way of judging players performances. Stats tell a story, but more often than not they tell less than half the story. Wilson has been running hard and has had some of the best 2-3 yard runs I've seen in years. If you think Andre Brown or Jacobs are gonna be any better getting hit by two defensive lineman in the backfield. You're simply kidding yourself.
Brown is an average RB talent, nothing more, nothing less. And he's never been able to stay healthy for a few games at a time. Even if he did "take over for Wilson" it'd be for all of 2-3 weeks before another limb fell off.
We're also all forgetting that Brown looked AWFULLLLLLLL. In preseason, absolutely terrible. Hell, Cox looked better than him getting around 2ypc. I don't get this idea people have that Brown is gonna come back and somehow steal this job. He looked bad prior to the broken leg, post broken leg certainly isn't going to help him.
People really really need to stop using stats as a way of judging players performances. Stats tell a story, but more often than not they tell less than half the story. Wilson has been running hard and has had some of the best 2-3 yard runs I've seen in years. If you think Andre Brown or Jacobs are gonna be any better getting hit by two defensive lineman in the backfield. You're simply kidding yourself.
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Kenny Powers
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OG_GF said:
OG_GF said:
So 1st&10 and 2nd&5 are passing downs and situations? Alright, cochise.OG_GF said:
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
2nd and 5 is not a passing down.OG_GF said:
I remember that play, and I also remember about falling over in amazement that a) Jacobs ran that pattern, and b) he caught it and scored.
Eviloutsider
Footballguy
There is going to be a lot of heartache again as it seems like Wilson is projected to breakout per every news source this week. Of course I am starting him over either CJ2K or Thompkins so I will be in here with my pitchfork all the same.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Jacobs had 20+ catches in a season exactly once in his career. Yeah, he is a major receiving threat.OG_GF said:
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I had to get my car inspected last week, and at the car dealer, some guy was wearing a NYG Brandon Jacobs jersey. He looked totally stoked that he was able to dust that bad boy off and rep it in public. I live in Virginia Beach. Any chance that was you who I saw, OG_GF?
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Just when I thought this thread couldn't possibly get any dumber, a new guy shows up to relentlessly pimp Brandon Jacobs. While giving us his fantasy resume, calling people punks, and throwing down "come at me bro." T with T's brother perhaps?
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
Pretty decent shtick by shark pool standards.
Wilson bandwagoners, anyone else predicting 100 combined yds and a score for Wilson this week at home vs. the Iggles? All aboard!
Wilson bandwagoners, anyone else predicting 100 combined yds and a score for Wilson this week at home vs. the Iggles? All aboard!
Khy
Footballguy
I've been saying since the Monday after Week 1 that this was the week he goes off. Still fully believe that. I'll say 120 total and 1 TD. Just feel like he's due for a massive break run. Figuring he'll put up like 60 on 15 carries and break one for 60.
to late me and my friends are on the wagon... CHOO CHOO
T with T
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Andre brown has been on 6 different teams and has 80 career carries and basically flops around from team to team. He makes darren mcfadden look durable. Man you need to quit digging your self in a hole. Your ######ed. We already went over all of this on like page 8.OG_GF said:
T with T
Footballguy
LOL
You should have told him you wanted to take his picture and patted him on the back.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
This is true. As a owner of him in dynasty this is what I want to know. Is he a guy I have to match up play this season because he will be the guy but he needs another year to grow into the role more like a Spiller, or Charles, plus the Giants suck. Or is time to get what I can for him and free up a roster spot instead of holding onto him for another 2 years hoping he turns into the next Thomas Jones, but is more likely to even up like Mark Ingram.
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