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Right. Additionally, Ultron used AndroidTorch's body to create the Vision.Yep. Interestingly the original Torch started out as a "monster" and then morphed into a superhero.You're talking the android Human Torch, pre-Johhny Storm, correct?
Well actually we would eventually find out that Immortus had diverged the Torch's timeline. So he is the Vision but he also continues to survive as himself at the same time. Now that's someRight. Additionally, Ultron used AndroidTorch's body to create the Vision.Yep. Interestingly the original Torch started out as a "monster" and then morphed into a superhero.You're talking the android Human Torch, pre-Johhny Storm, correct?
right there.
Oh, whoops, I knew that too.Well actually we would eventually find out that Immortus had diverged the Torch's timeline. So he is the Vision but he also continues to survive as himself at the same time. Now that's someRight. Additionally, Ultron used AndroidTorch's body to create the Vision.Yep. Interestingly the original Torch started out as a "monster" and then morphed into a superhero.You're talking the android Human Torch, pre-Johhny Storm, correct?
x1,000 Using the Forever Crystal. But actually I didn't dope out that this changed the Vision's standing origin of AndroidTorch body + Wonder Man's brain patterns.
Well it doesn't really I don't think. Although we were also told at one point that the Vision was actually built from spare parts of the original Torch and also told he was built from Adam 2 which was the followup to android Torch by his inventor. Vision's background remains murky but we know he was doing something right as he snagged the Witch. Who by the way is the one who allegedly revived the original Torch looking for answers to Vision's origins. Android Torch served with the Avengers for a while but he lost his powers and settled into a life where he was married to a human woman. He would eventually work for Namor supervising one of his companies and running a mercenary outfit.Oh, whoops, I knew that too.Well actually we would eventually find out that Immortus had diverged the Torch's timeline. So he is the Vision but he also continues to survive as himself at the same time. Now that's someRight. Additionally, Ultron used AndroidTorch's body to create the Vision.Yep. Interestingly the original Torch started out as a "monster" and then morphed into a superhero.You're talking the android Human Torch, pre-Johhny Storm, correct?
Nice! I never knew any of the bolded.Well it doesn't really I don't think. Although we were also told at one point that the Vision was actually built from spare parts of the original Torch and also told he was built from Adam 2 which was the followup to android Torch by his inventor. Vision's background remains murky but we know he was doing something right as he snagged the Witch. Who by the way is the one who allegedly revived the original Torch looking for answers to Vision's origins. Android Torch served with the Avengers for a while but he lost his powers and settled into a life where he was married to a human woman. He would eventually work for Namor supervising one of his companies and running a mercenary outfit.Oh, whoops, I knew that too.Well actually we would eventually find out that Immortus had diverged the Torch's timeline. So he is the Vision but he also continues to survive as himself at the same time. Now that's someRight. Additionally, Ultron used AndroidTorch's body to create the Vision.Yep. Interestingly the original Torch started out as a "monster" and then morphed into a superhero.You're talking the android Human Torch, pre-Johhny Storm, correct?
True.Nice! I never knew any of the bolded.Well it doesn't really I don't think. Although we were also told at one point that the Vision was actually built from spare parts of the original Torch and also told he was built from Adam 2 which was the followup to android Torch by his inventor. Vision's background remains murky but we know he was doing something right as he snagged the Witch. Who by the way is the one who allegedly revived the original Torch looking for answers to Vision's origins. Android Torch served with the Avengers for a while but he lost his powers and settled into a life where he was married to a human woman. He would eventually work for Namor supervising one of his companies and running a mercenary outfit.Oh, whoops, I knew that too.Well actually we would eventually find out that Immortus had diverged the Torch's timeline. So he is the Vision but he also continues to survive as himself at the same time. Now that's someRight. Additionally, Ultron used AndroidTorch's body to create the Vision.Yep. Interestingly the original Torch started out as a "monster" and then morphed into a superhero.You're talking the android Human Torch, pre-Johhny Storm, correct?
Yes, Vision was definitely living large to close the sale with Wanda.
Do Green Lantern and Hawkman have super powers as we'd normally define them? Unless I'm misremembering, isn't Hawkman an alien and GL just has a ring? Thought the ring was pretty strong.
I am an all purpose nerd. Comic Books? Check. Sci-fi movies? Check. Computer Games? Check.This thread puts the Star Wars thread to shame for
DC absolutely kills the animated stuff, Marvel doesn't even try to compete it seems like... which is probably ok because the money is in the big screen stuff.
You'd have to get pretty weird with some of marvel's heroes to beat Superman... something like reality shifting, or cosmic level stuff.. like Franklin Richards or Silver Surfer or something
Professor X mentally forces him to take a Kryoptonite bath. I think the only way you defeat Superman is to go through his mind
He'd turn too fast. 
