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DD telling me gates is best value (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter harryhood
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It's not telling you to draft Gates at 1.6. You can get him later than that.
It's telling you that he's the most valuable player on the board.
You're not always supposed to draft the most valuable player on the board.
It's telling you that he's the most valuable player on the board.
You're not always supposed to draft the most valuable player on the board.
BrentBlack
Footballguy
Take Rudi and be done with it.
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
10 TE league? Go for it!
harryhood
Footballguy
if he is there thats the plan
dgreen
Footballguy
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
aardball44
Footballguy
PPR League?
dgreen
Footballguy
Keys Myaths said:TS Garp said:Or else there's something you're not telling us about that scoring system.
Gates finished 2004 and 2005 8th overall. The DD is just showing you, given the projections made, what things will look like at the end of the season. It's telling you nothing about what you should do in the draft.highlander23
Footballguy
He keeps coming up really high for my league too in mock drafts I have been doing. Many times, if I have the 6th pick or lower, DD wants me to take Manning then Gates........leaving me at my 3rd pick before I take a RB. I've either won or been inthe finals the past 4 years since I started using the DD, but you have to use it as a guide and not have it just take over for your whole draft. Otherwise, you will have a very strange looking lineup. (One mock had me drafting Gates in the 2nd or 3rd round and then Heap in the 5th!! We only start 1 TE and it is not PPR). Gates should be taken pretty early in many leagues, but you've got to get those big time RB in there 1st.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Assuming you have input your information correctly, you now know the DVBD of Gates. This is why it is important to know your league. Or atleast the drafting tendancies of others in general.
Gates normally can be had late 2nd to mid 3rd in most drafts.
Each pick that goes by, you'll see his DVBD screaming out at you. As well as others along the way.
Take advantage of what DD gives you as an advantage!
Gates normally can be had late 2nd to mid 3rd in most drafts.
Each pick that goes by, you'll see his DVBD screaming out at you. As well as others along the way.
Take advantage of what DD gives you as an advantage!
dgreen
Footballguy
Johnny Rock
Footballguy
So Gates #1 overall then? That scoring is extreme to say the least.
DD tells you the most valuable player to draft. Use that information + the ADP # w/in DD + what you know about your fellow drafters. All of that will add up to tell you whether you should draft Gates @ 1.06 or not.That said, I would not draft him there. While most leagues vary based on scoring and lineup requirements, almost no -- NO ONE will draft a TE in the 1st round (Even one as good as Gates.). That knowledge alone will let you wait on him until a later round. He will be there for you at 2.07 and may be there for you at 3.06.dgreen said:Maurile Tremblay said:
if you don't draft according to vbd, what good is it to use?
"antonio gates is the best value. i'll ignore it and draft according to some other method."
the question then becomes, why not draft according to that "other method" to begin with?
"antonio gates is the best value. i'll ignore it and draft according to some other method."
the question then becomes, why not draft according to that "other method" to begin with?
elshagon
Footballguy
as someone else pointed out, use the ADP listed in DD and know your other owners. VBD is just a tool, but don't take a guy if you're pretty sure he'll still be there in the next round. I know one of my leagues traditionally have never had a TE go before the third round. Even though DD told me to take him in the second I waited until the early third round to snag him.
That's like asking, if you don't draft according to touchdowns, what good is it to know how many touchdowns somebody will score?It's helpful to know how many touchdowns someone will score, and it's helpful to know someone's projected value, but there are other factors to consider when drafting -- team needs, risk factors, bye weeks, and (relevant here) whom you'll be able to get later in the draft.
VBD isn't a draft method. It's a method of valuing players given their projected stats.
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
I got the "Value" and "Based"...What's the "D" stand for again?
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Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Why in the world would you do that? His projections are what he thinks Gates will do this year - supposedly, they represent his convictions. Adjusting them just so he doesn't have to see AG recommended as his next pick makes no sense; it's the tail wagging the dog.Just ignore him until you think you can no longer wait on him (or until someone else takes him).
dgreen
Footballguy
If you were in a league where everyone used VBD/DD and the same projections, then it would be used as a blueprint. But, everyone doesn't use it. Everyone's projections aren't the same. It's a guide to help you draft, it shouldn't control every selection because it has no idea that you are playing with some idiot who thinks they should take a kicker in the second round or with someone who really likes to draft Jets.
I understand this. It seems a majority of people who use the draft dominator do not.
CalBear
Footballguy
Either you believe the projections and VBD principles, or you don't. If you're sitting there at 2.01, and Gates is showing up as the top player by VBD and DVBD, and you know he won't be there at your next selection, you either have to take him, or discard your projections or the principles of VBD.Uruk-Hai said:
FFdork
Footballguy
I'm not sure if the original poster was saying that Gates was rated the top player on the board, or the best value. I think maybe it was the latter because DD will jump down to suggest Manning or Gates even though they aren't at the very top of the board. That is, if there are a bunch of similarly valued WR and RBs, it will jump down to suggest Gates (or Manning) as the suggested pick (even though there are some guys with a higher VBD #).
DD is a great tool, but as Maurile said, you're not supposed just take whatever it suggests like a lemming. In a similar spot, I took Rudi and then took Gates in the 2nd, which was still a little early but I had a plan based on how people in my league tend to draft.
DD is a great tool, but as Maurile said, you're not supposed just take whatever it suggests like a lemming. In a similar spot, I took Rudi and then took Gates in the 2nd, which was still a little early but I had a plan based on how people in my league tend to draft.
